I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today! (Archived)

stickguy · November 2023

I remember it as sitting upright with shoulders back, your wrist should lay on top of the steering wheel with your arm straight out.

going to an automatic instead of a clutch made the rest a lot more flexible. Left leg being at the correct angle was always how I set the seat.

fintail · November 2023

I like to drive with my hands low on the wheel - below 9 and 3, habit via the large wheel in the fintail and MBs that have larger wheels than many cars in general. That might be part of liking my seat low - in the fintail I can effectively have my hands on my lap or resting on leg and keep hands on the wheel at the same time. Old cars might create unusual postures.

I've also noticed I use the headrest most of the time when driving, not an option in the old car.

uplanderguy · November 2023

I have a long torso and short legs, so I tend to adjust my seat rather low too so that I don't conk my head getting in and out of the vehicle. I can't avoid that on the C8, but my family laughs when they get into a car after me as they joke I look like a lowrider or something when I drive.

kyfdx · November 2023

I put my seat low, because of age/neck issues. A lot easier to duck under the door opening (as noted above)

fintail · November 2023

That's another low seat thing, not hitting my head on the top of the door opening or A-pillar (I remember a rental 2011 Impala that was terrible for hitting my head). Fintail never has that problem - fairly upright A-pillar, seats aren't too tall, I am 6'1" and could wear an old hat in it I am sure.

Sandman6472 · November 2023

Tend to keep my seat pretty high in the Golf. Also sit on Relax The Back cushion due to my spinal issues. Have a 1/2 power seat which definitely seems odd to me.
Have a Rav4 rental right now, the current generation...a 2021 model I think. I can slide right in and out which is something I really want next time. It also has those warning lights at the far end of each side view mirror to tell me when there's a vehicle in the next lane. Have never had this in my d d yet though many of the vehicles I drive at Enterprise have that feature. We have this in the wife's A3 and she loves it, complains when driving the kid's Accent because she doesn't have this feature either. She definitely wanted the rental to have this option as she's going to do a lot of the driving as she wants to get used to driving a few inches up from the A3's current position. Doubtful that she'll get another A3 but, it's still on the short list.

uplanderguy · November 2023

On this Nov. 22, sixty years after JFK's assassination, I saw this on FB. I've long-been fascinated by the events that day which I have a foggy memory of, having been in kindergarten that day, and I visited the area in 1994--but there is something a bit weird to me about this sixties-Continental-Dealey-Plaza-driveby display yesterday:

https://www.facebook.com/sickcarsandtrucks/videos/365391445961562

fintail · November 2023

uplanderguy said:
On this Nov. 22, sixty years after JFK's assassination, I saw this on FB. I've long-been fascinated by the events that day which I have a foggy memory of, having been in kindergarten that day, and I visited the area in 1994--but there is something a bit weird to me about this sixties-Continental-Dealey-Plaza-driveby display yesterday:

https://www.facebook.com/sickcarsandtrucks/videos/365391445961562

That is kind of odd. What's the point? Was JFK a fan of the car? I always imagined it was just a car that he didn't select. I understand the morbid attraction thing, I guess.

On that note, from a trip a few years ago to the Henry Ford Museum:

fintail · November 2023

Sandman6472 said:
Tend to keep my seat pretty high in the Golf. Also sit on Relax The Back cushion due to my spinal issues. Have a 1/2 power seat which definitely seems odd to me.
Have a Rav4 rental right now, the current generation...a 2021 model I think. I can slide right in and out which is something I really want next time. It also has those warning lights at the far end of each side view mirror to tell me when there's a vehicle in the next lane. Have never had this in my d d yet though many of the vehicles I drive at Enterprise have that feature. We have this in the wife's A3 and she loves it, complains when driving the kid's Accent because she doesn't have this feature either. She definitely wanted the rental to have this option as she's going to do a lot of the driving as she wants to get used to driving a few inches up from the A3's current position. Doubtful that she'll get another A3 but, it's still on the short list.

My mom is the same way. She is comfortable enough in her Camry (which will likely never be replaced, as she's not going to pony up for a new car), but if she did replace it, a small CUV would be in order. She was very fond of the old Subaru Tribeca belonging to my ex-BIL, as the height was good for egress and ingress, as she is not as active as in the past. With an aging population, small CUVs will do nothing but become more popular.

sda · November 2023

Mom misses the luxury of her 98 Aurora but really likes her 2010 CR-V EX for its ease of getting in and out and overall practicality. At this point I think she drives less than 3k a year and it is all local.

uplanderguy · November 2023

Seems to me I've seen pics of civilian '61-63 Continentals at Hyannis. I know that when he died, he owned a '63 Mercury Colony Park that was transferred solely to Jackie. Someone at work years ago actually had that paperwork from a company a relative had worked at.

I wonder if the Ford products had anything to do with McNamara being his Secy. of Defense. Of course, he had been one of the "Whiz Kids" hired by HFII right after the war.

uplanderguy · November 2023

Pretty amazing that the JFK limo was put back into service with a permanent roof and was used until 1977. Supposedly LBJ avoided it and ordered it painted black when it showed back up at the White House in its dark blue color.

tjc78 · November 2023

@sda said:
Mom misses the luxury of her 98 Aurora but really likes her 2010 CR-V EX for its ease of getting in and out and overall practicality. At this point I think she drives less than 3k a year and it is all local.

My Mom will never give up an SUV at this point. She likes the easy in/out.

andre1969 · November 2023

I did a quick errand run this morning, and on the way home, spotted this...

It caught my eye partly because of the nice shade of blue, but I've always been kind of partial to the Venza. It looks like the door sills are about the same height as a typical sedan, yet you get a higher seating position. without having to climb up into it. Plus, these seemed to sway a bit more towards the sedan/wagon end of the spectrum, rather than having SUV or minivan aspirations.

tjc78 · November 2023

My mom had one of those. She loved it but complained about visibility. It drove just like a Camry or Avalon.

texases · November 2023

I would have bought that model Venza had it been out. Got an MKX instead for the wife. Now I’m back in the market, too bad the current Venza is an upgraded RAV4, instead of a shortened Highlander.

fintail · November 2023

I remember at launch, the original Venza had an "active boomer" marketing campaign. Maybe a little ahead of its time, a mainstream quasi-fastback CUV. That one is a nice color.

uplanderguy · November 2023

I always thought when the Venza came out, I was reminded of the Malibu Maxx.

sda · November 2023

texases said:
I would have bought that model Venza had it been out. Got an MKX instead for the wife. Now I’m back in the market, too bad the current Venza is an upgraded RAV4, instead of a shortened Highlander.

What vehicles are under consideration?

texases · November 2023

Venza is still on the list, along with RAV4 prime, maybe the NX450h (because the RAV4 prime gets crazy markups around here).

ab348 · November 2023

Yesterday I had to go for an eye appointment where my eyes were dilated so I couldn’t drive. My neighbour with the new to him GLC M-B SUV kindly offered to drive so I took him up on it. Nice ride and all, but I couldn’t believe how hard it was to get into the thing. It felt like I had to bend to put my head between my knees to get enough head clearance to get in. Was I doing it wrong? The door opening seemed really low.

kyfdx · November 2023

ab348 said:
Yesterday I had to go for an eye appointment where my eyes were dilated so I couldn’t drive. My neighbour with the new to him GLC M-B SUV kindly offered to drive so I took him up on it. Nice ride and all, but I couldn’t believe how hard it was to get into the thing. It felt like I had to bend to put my head between my knees to get enough head clearance to get in. Was I doing it wrong? The door opening seemed really low.

Optomap. I'll never let them dilate my eyes, again.

fintail · November 2023

ab348 said:
Yesterday I had to go for an eye appointment where my eyes were dilated so I couldn’t drive. My neighbour with the new to him GLC M-B SUV kindly offered to drive so I took him up on it. Nice ride and all, but I couldn’t believe how hard it was to get into the thing. It felt like I had to bend to put my head between my knees to get enough head clearance to get in. Was I doing it wrong? The door opening seemed really low.

Passenger seat set a little too high? I've never ridden in a GLC, but I have ridden in a GLB, and don't recall any issues - I am 6'1". Reminds me of the Impala I mentioned, the 2006+ type, had one as a rental, for some reason I was having issues with getting in and out without hitting my head.

texases · November 2023

It could be the “wife seat setting syndrome “. I’ll get in the passenger seat of a friend’s F150, can barely squeeze in because of how the seat was set.

ab348 · November 2023

texases said:
It could be the “wife seat setting syndrome “. I’ll get in the passenger seat of a friend’s F150, can barely squeeze in because of how the seat was set.

I adjusted the seat once inside but it didn't help much. My neighbor commented that it didn't have a lot of headroom, which seems odd.

texases · November 2023

Was it the ‘coupe’ version?

ab348 · November 2023

texases said:
Was it the ‘coupe’ version?

No, a 4-door.

fintail · November 2023

The "coupe" is a loathsome misnomer given to fastback/hunchback CUVs:

texases · November 2023

Yep, 4 doors minus a good amount of practicality.

roadburner · November 2023

The last press intro I covered was for the second generation X6 back in 2014. I didn't hate it, but I was certainly underwhelmed. Here's the first paragraph:
" A heretical thought occurred to me while taking an unsupervised solo drive in the new X6-sometime between humiliating a Tesla along some Carolina switchbacks and pulling over to celebrate crossing the Eastern Continental Divide (ELEV 2910 FT); it summarized my feelings about the 2.5 ton Sport Activity Coupé. As the late comic Sam Kinison might have put it, much like a neutered dog, I just don’t get it."

andre1969 · November 2023

When those hunchback things started making the scene awhile back, I tended to refer to them as "Aerobacks", which is what those awkward downsized Century and Cutlass Salon "fastbacks" were called.

The Honda Crosstour just seemed like the answer to a question nobody asked, and the Acura version seemed even worse...uglier, more awkward, and cramped inside. It sort of made me think of a modern take on the personal luxury coupe, minus the style.

For some reason though, I didn't mind the BMW X6. Still not something I would have bought, but when it first came out, I'd say it was the hunchback that I liked the best. Part of it was style, but I seem to recall that it also seemed like the roomiest of that initial batch of hunchbacks, and the most comfortable.

And yeah, I hate this latest trend of calling some of these low-slung 4-doors a "coupe." Actually, is it possible, for a 4-door vehicle to be a "coupe?" While we tend to think of sedans as 4-doors, there have been 2-door sedans in the past, so a sedan can go both ways. Although, you'll get arguments about that in internet forums these days!

In the old days, a 4-door hardtop and 2-door hardtop would sometimes share the same windshield/A-pillars, and much of the roof structure. And the 4-door hardtops were often more low-slung, and a bit tighter on interior room than a 4-door pillared sedan. Yet, nobody ever called them "4 door coupes." They were either "Hardtop Sedans" or, "4-door Hardtops".

Maybe we can blame some of this current trend on Nissan? I remember when the '89 Maxima came out, the acronym "4DSC" was thrown about. Although, it meant "Four Door Sports CAR," not "Coupe."

kyfdx · November 2023

Acura ZDX. They are reusing that name for their all-electric model.

Hopefully, no prospective customers remember the first one.

andre1969 · November 2023

fintail said:
Passenger seat set a little too high? I've never ridden in a GLC, but I have ridden in a GLB, and don't recall any issues - I am 6'1". Reminds me of the Impala I mentioned, the 2006+ type, had one as a rental, for some reason I was having issues with getting in and out without hitting my head.

With the way the roofs often slope on modern vehicles, the seating position can make a world of difference when it comes to headroom. My great-aunt had a 2001 Intrepid, and actually traded it on an Impala after a couple years, because her Betty-White-Beehive hairdo kept hitting the ceiling! She was a bit tall, for a woman, but still, I'm 6'3", and headroom was definitely NOT a problem for me in that car. However, because of the way the roof sloped, the further forward you moved the seat, the less headroom you had.

I had the seat all the way back, and most likely had the backrest a bit more reclined, than she would have.

And, I'm convinced that when GM redid the Impala for 2006, somehow they made it more cramped inside. It might not show up in published specs, but it definitely felt tighter inside. So whatever they did to it for 2006, was more substantial than just a quick-and-easy skin job. It also seemed like it had worse visibility, so I wonder if they made the pillars thicker, door openings smaller, etc, and that might have hindered entry/exit?

I'm guessing the same would hold true for the 2005 LaCrosse, vs the '97-04 Century/Regal?

uplanderguy · November 2023

I used to get that 2006-era Impala for rentals fairly often. While I liked the styling better than the previous car, the seating position in the front passenger seat was not very comfortable. Tight in the back seat too. One tiny thing I liked is that you got your choice, if you ordered, of fake wood on the panel or bushed metal trim. I like the latter but I probably saw ten of the former for one of the latter.

I much-preferred driving AND riding in the Malibu of that generation, which included the Maxx, first car I'm aware of (I could be wrong) where the rear seats could be moved fore and aft. Top-trim level had perforated suede seat inserts, which looked and felt luxurious, but the seating position was better than Impala too.

ab348 · November 2023

uplanderguy said:
I used to get that 2006-era Impala for rentals fairly often. While I liked the styling better than the previous car, the seating position in the front passenger seat was not very comfortable. Tight in the back seat too. One tiny thing I liked is that you got your choice, if you ordered, of fake wood on the panel or bushed metal trim. I like the latter but I probably saw ten of the former for one of the latter.

I much-preferred driving AND riding in the Malibu of that generation, which included the Maxx, first car I'm aware of (I could be wrong) where the rear seats could be moved fore and aft. Top-trim level had perforated suede seat inserts, which looked and felt luxurious, but the seating position was better than Impala too.

I agree with you on both points. That gen Impala filled the rental fleets here and I had several of them via that route. I also had the previous-gen one as rentals and liked it better to drive in, although the styling of it was like a poke in the eye. I always felt both generations were let down by that ticky-sounding V6 engine.

The generation of Malibu that also included the Maxx was an interesting case. I thought the sedans had some of the worst styling GM had ever produced. I disliked the previous version of it even more but not because of the styling, bland as it was, but I didn't like the driving experience at all and the interior was lousy to boot. But I got a couple of the next-gen mid-2000s Malibus as rentals and was shocked at how nice they drove. The interior had its own issues (I never liked how they used the same printed or otherwise patterned fuzzy cloth that was on the seating surfaces also on the backs of the front seats) but they were a very pleasant car to drive.

ab348 · November 2023

andre1969 said:

fintail said:
Passenger seat set a little too high? I've never ridden in a GLC, but I have ridden in a GLB, and don't recall any issues - I am 6'1". Reminds me of the Impala I mentioned, the 2006+ type, had one as a rental, for some reason I was having issues with getting in and out without hitting my head.
With the way the roofs often slope on modern vehicles, the seating position can make a world of difference when it comes to headroom.

I think the roof slope is the problem. Take a look at this pic of the GLC:

This shows how steeply the A-pillar leans back and how it cuts into the size of the front door opening, making the upper part of it very small. When you step on the sill to climb up into the thing the top of door opening is pretty tiny and seems to be at mid-chest level.

fintail · November 2023

andre1969 said:
When those hunchback things started making the scene awhile back, I tended to refer to them as "Aerobacks", which is what those awkward downsized Century and Cutlass Salon "fastbacks" were called.

The Honda Crosstour just seemed like the answer to a question nobody asked, and the Acura version seemed even worse...uglier, more awkward, and cramped inside. It sort of made me think of a modern take on the personal luxury coupe, minus the style.

For some reason though, I didn't mind the BMW X6. Still not something I would have bought, but when it first came out, I'd say it was the hunchback that I liked the best. Part of it was style, but I seem to recall that it also seemed like the roomiest of that initial batch of hunchbacks, and the most comfortable.

And yeah, I hate this latest trend of calling some of these low-slung 4-doors a "coupe." Actually, is it possible, for a 4-door vehicle to be a "coupe?" While we tend to think of sedans as 4-doors, there have been 2-door sedans in the past, so a sedan can go both ways. Although, you'll get arguments about that in internet forums these days!

In the old days, a 4-door hardtop and 2-door hardtop would sometimes share the same windshield/A-pillars, and much of the roof structure. And the 4-door hardtops were often more low-slung, and a bit tighter on interior room than a 4-door pillared sedan. Yet, nobody ever called them "4 door coupes." They were either "Hardtop Sedans" or, "4-door Hardtops".

Maybe we can blame some of this current trend on Nissan? I remember when the '89 Maxima came out, the acronym "4DSC" was thrown about. Although, it meant "Four Door Sports CAR," not "Coupe."

It's interesting to me, the 4 door "coupe" thing goes back a ways. I think Rover did it first with the P5 "Coupe" (actually badged "Coupe"), around 1962. It had a slightly rakish roofline compared to the very traditional sedan, and extra chrome trim to make it somewhat resemble a hardtop:

Then with an early release in 2004-5 for the 2006 MY, MB launched the CLS, which I think has been more of an influence on design than some give it credit. The CLS just ended production, no doubt with sales to be replaced by a CUV of some sort. This was officially called a "4 door coupe", and I think led a movement to more rakish low roof sedans.

fintail · November 2023

andre1969 said:

fintail said:
Passenger seat set a little too high? I've never ridden in a GLC, but I have ridden in a GLB, and don't recall any issues - I am 6'1". Reminds me of the Impala I mentioned, the 2006+ type, had one as a rental, for some reason I was having issues with getting in and out without hitting my head.
With the way the roofs often slope on modern vehicles, the seating position can make a world of difference when it comes to headroom. My great-aunt had a 2001 Intrepid, and actually traded it on an Impala after a couple years, because her Betty-White-Beehive hairdo kept hitting the ceiling! She was a bit tall, for a woman, but still, I'm 6'3", and headroom was definitely NOT a problem for me in that car. However, because of the way the roof sloped, the further forward you moved the seat, the less headroom you had.

I had the seat all the way back, and most likely had the backrest a bit more reclined, than she would have.

And, I'm convinced that when GM redid the Impala for 2006, somehow they made it more cramped inside. It might not show up in published specs, but it definitely felt tighter inside. So whatever they did to it for 2006, was more substantial than just a quick-and-easy skin job. It also seemed like it had worse visibility, so I wonder if they made the pillars thicker, door openings smaller, etc, and that might have hindered entry/exit?

I'm guessing the same would hold true for the 2005 LaCrosse, vs the '97-04 Century/Regal?

That kind of jogs a memory, maybe that's it. Maybe in the Impala, the seat needed to be back further from a driving position for easier ingress/egress, at least for a marginally tall person such as myself. Whatever it was, I remember it irked me as I hit my head more than once. The car itself had no problems - I remember it being the lowest miles rental I've ever had, with 4 miles on the clock when I picked it up.

I don't remember having any similar issues in a next gen Impala rental I had as a rental; later, the last generation was probably the best of the moderns, not as kind of weird as the 00-05 (those are maybe starting to get just a little less common now) or conjuring images of rental fleets as much as the 06+.

fintail · November 2023

uplanderguy said:
I used to get that 2006-era Impala for rentals fairly often. While I liked the styling better than the previous car, the seating position in the front passenger seat was not very comfortable. Tight in the back seat too. One tiny thing I liked is that you got your choice, if you ordered, of fake wood on the panel or bushed metal trim. I like the latter but I probably saw ten of the former for one of the latter.

I much-preferred driving AND riding in the Malibu of that generation, which included the Maxx, first car I'm aware of (I could be wrong) where the rear seats could be moved fore and aft. Top-trim level had perforated suede seat inserts, which looked and felt luxurious, but the seating position was better than Impala too.

I liked the Maxx, reminded me of something from Europe. I recall the higher spec models had a dual sunroof/pano thing which was pretty exotic for a mainstream domestic at the time. GM might have been a few years ahead of its time with that one, especially if it had been offered with AWD. I can't think of another non-CUV or minivan type with adjustable rear seats. Some luxobarges have had reclining rear seats, but not beyond that in my memory.

andre1969 · November 2023

I always thought GM sort of shot their larger cars in the foot, when the '97 Malibu came out. While it didn't have the shoulder room to make for what I'd think of as a true midsized car, it had good legroom and headroom. And I think it had similar trunk space to the Lumina, at the time. So it felt like the Malibu was a good, comfy car for four big people, whereas the Lumina would've been the better choice for 5 or 6 smaller people. So I imagine the Malibu was probably the more practical car, for most people.

When the 2000 Impala came out, it felt like it finally had good legroom up front, compared to the Lumina, but the rear still seemed cramped to me. Meanwhile, the Malibu got even better in 2004, in my opinion, although I wasn't a fan of its styling.

Back then, I think Ford seemed to have the best lineup, when it came to a more traditional "Small/Medium/Large" hierarchy. You had the Focus/Taurus/Crown Vic, and to me the Taurus felt like your typical domestic midsized car. Meanwhile, the Malibu and Chrysler's "cloud" cars seemed like they were going for more of the Japanese interpretation of a midsized car, something more Camry/Accord class. It was like they admitted that most people didn't really need 3 across seating, so they focused more on a comfy 4-seater. But then further up the ranks, while the Crown Vic seemed like your classic American full-sizer, the Intrepid seemed to go for more of that "new wave"/"tweener" full size, that pretty much kicked off with GM's downsized FWD C-bodies for '85. The Impala seemed to attempt that same size class, but just seemed to come up short, whereas GM's better attempts at it were the Bonneville, LeSabre, etc.

Being based on a midsize platform, rather than the larger FWD GM designs probably hurt the Impala's interior room a bit. But I wonder if GM might have kept it a bit small on purpose, to force buyers to move up to the likes of a LeSabre, Bonneville, Aurora, etc?

I thought the FWD Malibu pretty much hit its peak in 2008-2012. Perhaps some of the details could have been worked out in the front end and taillight area, but overall I thought it had a nice, substantial look to it. Even a bit upscale, perhaps.

The 2013-2015 had some of the details worked out a bit better, I think, but then the whole overall look of the car just seemed stubby. It was also pretty cramped in the back, and as I recall, GM redesigned the seats to try and carve out a bit more legroom for the back seat passengers. It's also kind of interesting that they dropped it completely after just three years. I was thinking maybe it was because of poor sales, but according to Wikipedia, it remained consistent. I imagine they were trying to do some kind of global platform alignment for 2016, and maybe that prompted an early redesign?

The current Malibu seems like a decent enough car, for those who still want a sedan. It's been so long since I've sat in one though, that I can't remember my impression of it.

ab348 · November 2023

The last 4 generations of Malibu have all been based on GM's Epsilon platform IIRC, going back to '04. There are 2 versions of Epsilon though, one shorter than the other. The '08 to '12 used the longer one but seemed a bit narrow. The '13-'15 used the shorter version which is why rear seat room was tight. Now for the current version they're back to the longer one. The 2011 Regal I had for a while was a great driving car, but on the shorter Epsilon platform and its rear seat was very tight.

uplanderguy · November 2023

I absolutely hated the '97 Malibu, LOL.

We had an '11. I thought it was the peak of Malibu styling (well, late-Malibu that is), had a very roomy back seat, and looked elegant in our black metallic with polished aluminum wheels. I didn't care for the Mitsubishi-style taillights.

The '13 was not as nice IMHO. First one I ever saw, I noticed the lack of rear-seat legroom.

The current Malibu I like, but again, it can't be long for this world.

uplanderguy · November 2023

I saw this year’s Chevy Christmas commercial, featuring a ‘71 or 72 Suburban, yesterday. I still think 2021’s, “Mom’s Car”, was my favorite of the three so far, largely because an old Suburban doesn’t wow me. But, a Suburban is one of the only vehicles they made 50 years ago and still do.

I’m typing on my phone and can’t copy a link here for some reason. When I’m on a laptop I will.

I do think they have the biggest product nostalgia in the industry, for those of a certain age.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/867062728300619

andre1969 · November 2023

I did a quick errand run this morning, before the crowds came out en masse, and spotted a few relative obscurities.

First, from an era when goils were goils and men were men, and truck were trucks...

In the same parking lot, there was this '98-02 Accord sedan.

Once a common sight, but nowadays, all but forgotten in these parts. Although to be fair, the newest examples would now be 22 model years old. I guess the WRX in the background is a bit uncommon these days, too.

So, imagine my surprise, when I saw another one, in the same parking lot!

And a coupe, no less!

Oh, I also spotted a brown '82-87 El Camino that looked in good shape, but I wasn't fast enough on the draw with my phone, so I missed it.

ab348 · November 2023

andre1969 said:
I did a quick errand run this morning, before the crowds came out en masse, and spotted a few relative obscurities.

First, from an era when goils were goils and men were men, and truck were trucks...

That looks like a nominee for membership in the Upside-Down Club. Going around curves in that thing must be terrifying.

fintail · November 2023

uplanderguy said:
I saw this year’s Chevy Christmas commercial, featuring a ‘71 or 72 Suburban, yesterday. I still think 2021’s, “Mom’s Car”, was my favorite of the three so far, largely because an old Suburban doesn’t wow me. But, a Suburban is one of the only vehicles they made 50 years ago and still do.

I’m typing on my phone and can’t copy a link here for some reason. When I’m on a laptop I will.

I do think they have the biggest product nostalgia in the industry, for those of a certain age.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/867062728300619

Good ad. The sentimental thing may wear thin for some people, but I would rather look at that Suburban than a new one

MB had a run of sentimental/heritage ads around 20 years ago, but seems to have moved on. Maybe the younglings can't relate.

fintail · November 2023

In this area where rust is rare, the 98-02 Accord is still an everyday sight. I see the coupe has lost a bit of paint, typical for Honda black of that era. I always liked the coupe rear end, borrowed from the NSX.

The bugeye WRXs just get wrecked and rebuilt, rinse and repeat, the only thing changing being the flavor of vape pen used by the next owner.

Michaell · November 2023

fintail said:
The bugeye WRXs just get wrecked and rebuilt, rinse and repeat, the only thing changing being the flavor of vape pen used by the next owner.

I belong to the Colorado Subaru group on FB, and almost every WRX put up for sale has a salvage or similar title, plus a detailed list of the mods (including the wheel HP).

No thanks.

texases · November 2023

Saw one of these today in San Diego. Can’t remember the last time I saw one:

stickguy · November 2023

out driving, stopped next to me at a light, a very nice condition 1988 (based on the plate, but the 86+ generation) Toyota Supra. I much preferred the prior wedge version.

odd to see out and about when we already have had salt on the roads.

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