I put substantially less than 2,300 miles on either the BMW or Prelude but stick to annual oil changes on both along with whatever other routine/preventative maintenance is needed.
You do you, but that's a waste of money. Oil doesn't care how old it is.
———————————————— Based on what a few mechanics have told me over the years, I will disagree with you but none could say how long and this was before the extensive use of synthetics. Since most every chemical has a shelf life, especially once it’s used. If I had to put a number on time, I’d have to say 2 years just to be safe and that’s with low miles similar to what you had.
All that being said, I’d like to hear what oil companies say about this but I’m sure they’ll have many qualifiers like: condition of engine, type of oil (dino vs. synthetic), environment during use (humid, dusty), aggressive driving vs, getting groceries, etc. etc.
jmonroe
You say you disagree with me, but every example you give is exactly what I stated. 2 years, ultra-low miles.
I put substantially less than 2,300 miles on either the BMW or Prelude but stick to annual oil changes on both along with whatever other routine/preventative maintenance is needed.
You do you, but that's a waste of money. Oil doesn't care how old it is.
———————————————— Based on what a few mechanics have told me over the years, I will disagree with you but none could say how long and this was before the extensive use of synthetics. Since most every chemical has a shelf life, especially once it’s used. If I had to put a number on time, I’d have to say 2 years just to be safe and that’s with low miles similar to what you had.
All that being said, I’d like to hear what oil companies say about this but I’m sure they’ll have many qualifiers like: condition of engine, type of oil (dino vs. synthetic), environment during use (humid, dusty), aggressive driving vs, getting groceries, etc. etc.
jmonroe
You say you disagree with me, but every example you give is exactly what I stated. 2 years, ultra-low miles.
————————————————- You said, “Oil doesn't care how old it is”. I was saying that there logically has to be a limit. Just so happens I agreed with your 2 year limit.
Maybe great minds do think alike. Can I get a dues discount for my agreeing with you?
jmonroe
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I put substantially less than 2,300 miles on either the BMW or Prelude but stick to annual oil changes on both along with whatever other routine/preventative maintenance is needed.
You do you, but that's a waste of money. Oil doesn't care how old it is.
———————————————— Based on what a few mechanics have told me over the years, I will disagree with you but none could say how long and this was before the extensive use of synthetics. Since most every chemical has a shelf life, especially once it’s used. If I had to put a number on time, I’d have to say 2 years just to be safe and that’s with low miles similar to what you had.
All that being said, I’d like to hear what oil companies say about this but I’m sure they’ll have many qualifiers like: condition of engine, type of oil (dino vs. synthetic), environment during use (humid, dusty), aggressive driving vs, getting groceries, etc. etc.
jmonroe
You say you disagree with me, but every example you give is exactly what I stated. 2 years, ultra-low miles.
————————————————- You said, “Oil doesn't care how old it is”. I was saying that there logically has to be a limit. Just so happens I agreed with your 2 year limit.
Maybe great minds do think alike. Can I get a dues discount for my agreeing with you?
Based on what a few mechanics have told me over the years, I will disagree with you but none could say how long and this was before the extensive use of synthetics. Since most every chemical has a shelf life, especially once it’s used. If I had to put a number on time, I’d have to say 2 years just to be safe and that’s with low miles similar to what you had.
All that being said, I’d like to hear what oil companies say about this but I’m sure they’ll have many qualifiers like: condition of engine, type of oil (dino vs. synthetic), environment during use (humid, dusty), aggressive driving vs, getting groceries, etc. etc.
jmonroe
Once it is in the engine, oil does care how old it is... to a degree. In low-use vehicles, the biggest risk is acids. The buffering capacity of the oil will degrade with time just due to the slow buffering process of that environment. However, two years is a safe bet with modern synthetic oils, which have vastly greater buffering capacity than in days gone by.
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I put substantially less than 2,300 miles on either the BMW or Prelude but stick to annual oil changes on both along with whatever other routine/preventative maintenance is needed.
You do you, but that's a waste of money. Oil doesn't care how old it is.
———————————————— Based on what a few mechanics have told me over the years, I will disagree with you but none could say how long and this was before the extensive use of synthetics. Since most every chemical has a shelf life, especially once it’s used. If I had to put a number on time, I’d have to say 2 years just to be safe and that’s with low miles similar to what you had.
All that being said, I’d like to hear what oil companies say about this but I’m sure they’ll have many qualifiers like: condition of engine, type of oil (dino vs. synthetic), environment during use (humid, dusty), aggressive driving vs, getting groceries, etc. etc.
jmonroe
You say you disagree with me, but every example you give is exactly what I stated. 2 years, ultra-low miles.
————————————————- You said, “Oil doesn't care how old it is”. I was saying that there logically has to be a limit. Just so happens I agreed with your 2 year limit.
Maybe great minds do think alike. Can I get a dues discount for my agreeing with you?
jmonroe
No bonuses for bootlickers.
————————————————— Well, I hope I don’t get a bump for trying.
jmonroe
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The 19-yr-old is floundering. School didn’t work out, and he has been procrastinating about anything else. I don’t want to push him into something long term that he doesn’t want to do, but we’ve told him he has to do SOMETHING while trying to figure out the rest.
I’ve sent him a number of job listings, including driving or working as a lot boy. He rejected it all.
Come to about 2 weeks ago. He tells us he’s got an interview …. At a Nissan dealer. Huh. Ok. Long story short: they really liked him. He was among 60 applicants and they picked 20 for various positions at several dealerships. The GM, however, came up with a special plan just for my kid. He feels like he belongs customer-facing rather than in the BDC (can’t be a floor salesperson until 21, they say). Instead, his job will be to book service appts and try to turn those people into buyers. Kind of interesting. I warned him that he should be concerned with chasing away service work with salesman techniques. In other words, don’t push the new car angle too soon or hard and make them not want to show for their service appt.
Anyway, he is pretty excited about it. Pays a base salary plus a small bonus for sales appts and part of the commish on those converted to sales. Fingers crossed. I’d be pretty proud if it turns out he has a knack and love of sales. Especially since I know it is something beyond my capabilities.
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@qbrozen - he'll be exuding Big Altima Energy in no time! But congrats to him on the gig. If I were visiting for service, I'd respond well to a "we have many new Nissan models and used vehicles of all makes if you'd like to browse our lot while you wait," because I'm going to do that regardless (weather permiting).
good luck to him. Always hard for kids that are expecting to be on the college track where it isn't right for them. They usually don't have something else in mind (like wanting to do carpentry or become a mechanic).
So I started to do a little more digging on the 2011 ES350 with 74K miles on it. I entered the VIN into caredge.com and was able to print out a copy of the original window sticker. $44,299 was the original sticker price back in 2011. It has the ULTRA LUXURY PACKAGE which includes heated & ventilated front seats, HID headlights, Perforated Leather Trim Interior, Power Rear Sunshade, Panorama Glass Moonroof, a Full Sized 5th Wheel, as well as (last but not least) a wood & leather steering wheel & shift knob.
I know, I know, if this vehicle was on @breld ‘s radar he would have already bought it plus a stick shift Miata for his wife.
I planned to go and check out the car tonight after work, but my 2 hour plus commute put a damper on those plans. I did get a chance to drive to the lot after hours on my way home from hockey practice drop off. From what I could see, it is really clean inside & out. The paint is shiny. The wheels don’t have any pitting or dirt lodged around the lugnuts.
According to CarGurus, it is priced FAIR at $12,904, which is the finance price according to the dealer’s website. It does seem to be the lowest mileage 2011 ES350 within 100 miles. Cash price is $13,904. Plus the $899 doc fee. I plugged the VIN into Carvana as if I was going to sell it to them. It spit out $10,200 as a value.
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I would think $13k-ish cash would get it. They're planning on marking up the interest rate and getting a spiff on financing, but that's not going to amount to $1k.
According to the CarFax, the dealer did the following work to prep for the sale:
Vehicle serviced
Air filter replaced
Brake rotor(s) resurfaced
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Front brake pads replaced
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
Oil and filter changed
Safety inspection performed
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
based on your visual, the pictures, and the carfax pretty good chance it is about as clean of a used car that you are going to find. Not particularly cheap for 15 YO car, but I am sure that my used car value meter needs to be recalibrated since it has been a long time since I was shopping in that end of the market.
@stickguy said:
based on your visual, the pictures, and the carfax pretty good chance it is about as clean of a used car that you are going to find. Not particularly cheap for 15 YO car, but I am sure that my used car value meter needs to be recalibrated since it has been a long time since I was shopping in that end of the market.
A new Camry LE Hybrid is about $31ish-$32ish. AWDs are in the $35K range.
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@qbrozen - he'll be exuding Big Altima Energy in no time! But congrats to him on the gig. If I were visiting for service, I'd respond well to a "we have many new Nissan models and used vehicles of all makes if you'd like to browse our lot while you wait," because I'm going to do that regardless (weather permiting).
This!
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@qbrozen, my son was much the same at that age. Floundering in college, had a sub 2 GPA and no initiative or motivation. It was a rough couple of years after he dropped out. He moved across the country to California and struggled there for awhile. He finally got his act together and is now quite successful and working on completing a degree. Time and maturing were the keys for him. It was really hard to watch him struggle, but it all worked out. My hope is the same for your son.
The ES350 seems like a great deal. The VVT oil line problem was gone by 2011 as well. That’s also a deceptively fast car. My 06 Avalon with the same engine surprised quite a few at the stop light
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The ES350 seems like a great deal. The VVT oil line problem was gone by 2011 as well. That’s also a deceptively fast car. My 06 Avalon with the same engine surprised quite a few at the stop light
I remember reading about that a long time ago in 2010 RX 350s. The article said to watch out if there is a 2010 RX that's significantly cheaper than a similar 2009 or 2011 RX. I don't remember if it was because of the VVTi oil issue or something plastic that was failing prematurely...
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"The 19-yr-old is floundering. School didn’t work out, and he has been procrastinating about anything else. I don’t want to push him into something long term that he doesn’t want to do, but we’ve told him he has to do SOMETHING while trying to figure out the rest."
@qbrozen - Thanks for sharing this. We are here for you.
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My GPA in my 1st quarter in college was a .43, the second wasn’t much better. I had picked a major I really wasn’t interested in because thats what everyone else wanted me to major in but to be fair, I really had no idea what I wanted to study. Not much according to my grades. I did have a really, really good time though.
The university told me that maybe I should come back when I am a little more serious about my studies and there were some serious heart to hearts with my parents. Basically they said ‘just get a degree’. Maybe not the best advice but it has all worked out. I am one of those whose profession has absolutely nothing to do with his degree but I have scratched out a pretty good career.
My GPA in my 1st quarter in college was a .43, the second wasn’t much better. I had picked a major I really wasn’t interested in because thats what everyone else wanted me to major in but to be fair, I really had no idea what I wanted to study. Not much according to my grades. I did have a really, really good time though.
The university told me that maybe I should come back when I am a little more serious about my studies and there were some serious heart to hearts with my parents. Basically they said ‘just get a degree’. Maybe not the best advice but it has all worked out. I am one of those whose profession has absolutely nothing to do with his degree but I have scratched out a pretty good career.
I always did just enough to get where I needed; 3.0 in high school as I knew I was going to a public university and there were no scholarships. In college I pulled down a 3.8 to help my admission to law school. In law school I fell back to around a a 3.0 again because I wasn't gunning for a big name firm in Boston, DC, Atlanta, or LA. My son started out wanting an MBA in Business but ended up majoring in History and Sports Management. Of course his current job at Ridgetop Research didn't fit any of those but he's happy. I still think he'll end up in a job more related to sports, but time will tell.
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My GPA in my 1st quarter in college was a .43, the second wasn’t much better. I had picked a major I really wasn’t interested in because thats what everyone else wanted me to major in but to be fair, I really had no idea what I wanted to study. Not much according to my grades. I did have a really, really good time though.
The university told me that maybe I should come back when I am a little more serious about my studies and there were some serious heart to hearts with my parents. Basically they said ‘just get a degree’. Maybe not the best advice but it has all worked out. I am one of those whose profession has absolutely nothing to do with his degree but I have scratched out a pretty good career.
Similar story here, but my grades didn't head deep south until my third semester. And that story begins with so many that represent the downfall of a man, "I met a girl..."
While I majored (Communications; why are you snickering?!) in what I thought I generally wanted to do (woulda, shoulda, coulda?), my two diverse careers weren't directly related to it. I didn't have the drive or maturity to pursue that avenue. But, once I grew up and took the first reasonable job offered to me and was fired a year later, deservedly so, another shot in the maturity arm and on I progressed to low-level success in a couple of fields.
My point? Not sure I have one... Oh, yeah, agreeing with au1994. He'll figure it out.
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When I graduated HS, I kinda sorta knew I wanted to do something business related. But, while my folks provided a comfortable life growing up, there wasn't a lot of money available for college.
My original plan was to attend a junior college for a couple of years, get my AA (or AS, whatever), then transfer to a Cal State School to finish my degree. At the time, the closest school was in Northridge, about an hour away.
I took a summer semester at the jr college right after graduating (first introduction to computers), and a golf class (sure, why not?). Completed a full semester in the fall of that year - math, history, and one or two others that escape my memory.
Started the spring semester when my folks were contacted by the parents of a HS friend of mine - he had met with a recruiter from some school called DeVry, and while my friend wasn't a great fit for the programs, they did mention my name as someone who might be interested.
The recruiter came over and made his pitch - there were two programs, one for electrical engineering, the other for computer information systems. The CIS track was intriguing, as it wasn't science based, but business based - accounting, project management, public speaking, in addition to the core tech classes (mostly COBOL related at the time). The kicker was that tuition was handled like a revolving credit line - the student loans I would take out would be applied to the balance, and the folks could make a monthly payment like they would on an installment loan to cover the balance. And, the program ran on a "trimester" schedule, meaning I would graduate in 32 months (15 or 16 credits per trimester, all pre-selected).
The only slight issue was that the closest school to us was in Phoenix. But - good news! My dad had an old Navy buddy who lived there - we would drive out occasionally to visit them when I was a kid. I think his wife's mother had a 3 bedroom townhouse and could use a roommate. Score - I had a place to live, for only $150/mo. All I had to do was find a part time job to cover my expenses.
I moved to Phoenix in February of 1983, and graduated in October of 1985 - barely. I kept failing the damn COBOL lab class - took me three times to finally get a D. For the record, this was all before PCs were even a thing, so all our programming was done off line, then submitted to an IBM mainframe in Chicago, where they would run overnight and we'd get the results in the morning.
Anyway, I think I graduated with a 3.1 or 3.2 GPA, and my dad (!) helped me secure my first job post graduation, as the city had contracted with a company to outsource their Data Processing services. He introduced me to the president of the company, I must have interviewed well, and I got hired.
So, I didn't have the traditional college experience, with dorm rooms, and football games and the like, but I did get a degree. The tech skills aged pretty badly (JCL? Assembler?) , but some of the other courses (accounting, public speaking) did help me throughout my career.
When I graduated HS, I kinda sorta knew I wanted to do something business related. But, while my folks provided a comfortable life growing up, there wasn't a lot of money available for college.
My original plan was to attend a junior college for a couple of years, get my AA (or AS, whatever), then transfer to a Cal State School to finish my degree. At the time, the closest school was in Northridge, about an hour away.
I took a summer semester at the jr college right after graduating (first introduction to computers), and a golf class (sure, why not?). Completed a full semester in the fall of that year - math, history, and one or two others that escape my memory.
Started the spring semester when my folks were contacted by the parents of a HS friend of mine - he had met with a recruiter from some school called DeVry, and while my friend wasn't a great fit for the programs, they did mention my name as someone who might be interested.
The recruiter came over and made his pitch - there were two programs, one for electrical engineering, the other for computer information systems. The CIS track was intriguing, as it wasn't science based, but business based - accounting, project management, public speaking, in addition to the core tech classes (mostly COBOL related at the time). The kicker was that tuition was handled like a revolving credit line - the student loans I would take out would be applied to the balance, and the folks could make a monthly payment like they would on an installment loan to cover the balance. And, the program ran on a "trimester" schedule, meaning I would graduate in 32 months (15 or 16 credits per trimester, all pre-selected).
The only slight issue was that the closest school to us was in Phoenix. But - good news! My dad had an old Navy buddy who lived there - we would drive out occasionally to visit them when I was a kid. I think his wife's mother had a 3 bedroom townhouse and could use a roommate. Score - I had a place to live, for only $150/mo. All I had to do was find a part time job to cover my expenses.
I moved to Phoenix in February of 1983, and graduated in October of 1985 - barely. I kept failing the damn COBOL lab class - took me three times to finally get a D. For the record, this was all before PCs were even a thing, so all our programming was done off line, then submitted to an IBM mainframe in Chicago, where they would run overnight and we'd get the results in the morning.
Anyway, I think I graduated with a 3.1 or 3.2 GPA, and my dad (!) helped me secure my first job post graduation, as the city had contracted with a company to outsource their Data Processing services. He introduced me to the president of the company, I must have interviewed well, and I got hired.
So, I didn't have the traditional college experience, with dorm rooms, and football games and the like, but I did get a degree. The tech skills aged pretty badly (JCL? Assembler?) , but some of the other courses (accounting, public speaking) did help me throughout my career.
Thats a really cool story. I remember Devry advertising on TV in this time period.
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When I graduated HS, I kinda sorta knew I wanted to do something business related. But, while my folks provided a comfortable life growing up, there wasn't a lot of money available for college.
My original plan was to attend a junior college for a couple of years, get my AA (or AS, whatever), then transfer to a Cal State School to finish my degree. At the time, the closest school was in Northridge, about an hour away.
I took a summer semester at the jr college right after graduating (first introduction to computers), and a golf class (sure, why not?). Completed a full semester in the fall of that year - math, history, and one or two others that escape my memory.
Started the spring semester when my folks were contacted by the parents of a HS friend of mine - he had met with a recruiter from some school called DeVry, and while my friend wasn't a great fit for the programs, they did mention my name as someone who might be interested.
The recruiter came over and made his pitch - there were two programs, one for electrical engineering, the other for computer information systems. The CIS track was intriguing, as it wasn't science based, but business based - accounting, project management, public speaking, in addition to the core tech classes (mostly COBOL related at the time). The kicker was that tuition was handled like a revolving credit line - the student loans I would take out would be applied to the balance, and the folks could make a monthly payment like they would on an installment loan to cover the balance. And, the program ran on a "trimester" schedule, meaning I would graduate in 32 months (15 or 16 credits per trimester, all pre-selected).
The only slight issue was that the closest school to us was in Phoenix. But - good news! My dad had an old Navy buddy who lived there - we would drive out occasionally to visit them when I was a kid. I think his wife's mother had a 3 bedroom townhouse and could use a roommate. Score - I had a place to live, for only $150/mo. All I had to do was find a part time job to cover my expenses.
I moved to Phoenix in February of 1983, and graduated in October of 1985 - barely. I kept failing the damn COBOL lab class - took me three times to finally get a D. For the record, this was all before PCs were even a thing, so all our programming was done off line, then submitted to an IBM mainframe in Chicago, where they would run overnight and we'd get the results in the morning.
Anyway, I think I graduated with a 3.1 or 3.2 GPA, and my dad (!) helped me secure my first job post graduation, as the city had contracted with a company to outsource their Data Processing services. He introduced me to the president of the company, I must have interviewed well, and I got hired.
So, I didn't have the traditional college experience, with dorm rooms, and football games and the like, but I did get a degree. The tech skills aged pretty badly (JCL? Assembler?) , but some of the other courses (accounting, public speaking) did help me throughout my career.
Thats a really cool story. I remember Devry advertising on TV in this time period.
Yeah, at the time they were owned by Bell & Howell, and had schools across the country (after I started, they opened one up in the greater LA area).
Like most for-profit schools, they got caught up in some of the financial shenannigans, but they are still around.
Looks like we're postponing our trip for a week. The wife's cold has just gotten worse and we've decided to give her another week to rest up which makes sense. It's fine with me & the kids and we'll hook up with the upcoming holiday when no one works on the 26th. Just moved the rental to the following week and all is good. Maybe just as well as we're having more house problems. Looks like the original hot water heater has fried itself and has been out since early Wednesday morning! They've put in elements & thermostats over the years but at close to 38 years old, it's toast. Their tech that came yesterday said as much. Waiting on the plumbers to show up to install the new one, another 40 gallon tank. Just need it done as I want a shower...the sooner the better! I knew this day was coming due to it's age so it is what it is! We've had a bunch of drama with the house this year & hoping that this will be the last of it for a spell. I'm tired of it all!!!
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College... I got the invitation to not return the next semester, a couple of times. The second time, it stuck. No degree for me, and I always regretted it. My GPA started with a decimal point, as well.
The kicker: I had a National Merit Scholarship.
But, my 50th HS reunion is this year, so I'm over it, now.
@Sandman6472 said:
Looks like we're postponing our trip for a week. The wife's cold has just gotten worse and we've decided to give her another week to rest up which makes sense. It's fine with me & the kids and we'll hook up with the upcoming holiday when no one works on the 26th. Just moved the rental to the following week and all is good.
Maybe just as well as we're having more house problems. Looks like the original hot water heater has fried itself and has been out since early Wednesday morning! They've put in elements & thermostats over the years but at close to 38 years old, it's toast. Their tech that came yesterday said as much. Waiting on the plumbers to show up to install the new one, another 40 gallon tank. Just need it done as I want a shower...the sooner the better! I knew this day was coming due to it's age so it is what it is! We've had a bunch of drama with the house this year & hoping that this will be the last of it for a spell. I'm tired of it all!!!
You got 38 years out of a water heater? That has to be a typo
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Nope, moved in here July 1st of 1987 and had the original unit till yesterday. Like I said, it's been band-aided over the years but it's original to our house. Our oven/stove/vent is the last original appliance left now. Guess we're not that hard on things!
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@michaell, Mainframe Assembly Language had a list of instructons on a green card for 360 Series and a yellow card for the 370 Series. Here's a picture of my old green card.
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Looks like we're postponing our trip for a week. The wife's cold has just gotten worse and we've decided to give her another week to rest up which makes sense. It's fine with me & the kids and we'll hook up with the upcoming holiday when no one works on the 26th. Just moved the rental to the following week and all is good.
Maybe just as well as we're having more house problems. Looks like the original hot water heater has fried itself and has been out since early Wednesday morning! They've put in elements & thermostats over the years but at close to 38 years old, it's toast. Their tech that came yesterday said as much. Waiting on the plumbers to show up to install the new one, another 40 gallon tank. Just need it done as I want a shower...the sooner the better! I knew this day was coming due to it's age so it is what it is! We've had a bunch of drama with the house this year & hoping that this will be the last of it for a spell. I'm tired of it all!!!
You got 38 years out of a water heater? That has to be a typo
————————————————- How? Do you think he meant 83?
jmonroe
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@michaell, Mainframe Assembly Language had a list of instructons on a green card for 360 Series and a yellow card for the 370 Series. Here's a picture of my old green card.
———————————————— Today, I think that’s all done via AI.
jmonroe
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An electric (which I'm guessing he has) might last a long time, if you are replacing heating elements. It doesn't have a burner like a gas water heater.
@explorerx4 said: @michaell,
Mainframe Assembly Language had a list of instructons on a green card for 360 Series and a yellow card for the 370 Series.
Here's a picture of my old green card.
Years ago at my old company our warehouse ran on AS/400. I used to be amazed at the code the programmers would enter into it and all the various screens they created all custom for us.
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It mostly comes down to the regularity and thoroughness of maintenance! For most people, 6-8 years is pretty typical. But, if you flush it regularly (at least annual) and change out anode rods every two years, it should pretty much last forever.
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You got 38 years out of a water heater? That has to be a typo
I guess the joke’s on me for being duped by Big Plumbing and replacing mine pre-emptively every dozen years or so to avoid disaster as they recommended.
It mostly comes down to the regularity and thoroughness of maintenance! For most people, 6-8 years is pretty typical. But, if you flush it regularly (at least annual) and change out anode rods every two years, it should pretty much last forever.
Learn something new every day. Mine is on borrowed time as it is original to the house, built in 2002. Its in the garage but if it was like a previous house and in the upstairs laundry room, it would have been replaced by now.
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You said, “Oil doesn't care how old it is”. I was saying that there logically has to be a limit. Just so happens I agreed with your 2 year limit.
Maybe great minds do think alike. Can I get a dues discount for my agreeing with you?
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Once it is in the engine, oil does care how old it is... to a degree. In low-use vehicles, the biggest risk is acids. The buffering capacity of the oil will degrade with time just due to the slow buffering process of that environment. However, two years is a safe bet with modern synthetic oils, which have vastly greater buffering capacity than in days gone by.
Usually, it burns off with spirited driving.
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The 19-yr-old is floundering. School didn’t work out, and he has been procrastinating about anything else. I don’t want to push him into something long term that he doesn’t want to do, but we’ve told him he has to do SOMETHING while trying to figure out the rest.
I’ve sent him a number of job listings, including driving or working as a lot boy. He rejected it all.
Come to about 2 weeks ago. He tells us he’s got an interview …. At a Nissan dealer. Huh. Ok. Long story short: they really liked him. He was among 60 applicants and they picked 20 for various positions at several dealerships. The GM, however, came up with a special plan just for my kid. He feels like he belongs customer-facing rather than in the BDC (can’t be a floor salesperson until 21, they say). Instead, his job will be to book service appts and try to turn those people into buyers. Kind of interesting. I warned him that he should be concerned with chasing away service work with salesman techniques. In other words, don’t push the new car angle too soon or hard and make them not want to show for their service appt.
Anyway, he is pretty excited about it. Pays a base salary plus a small bonus for sales appts and part of the commish on those converted to sales. Fingers crossed. I’d be pretty proud if it turns out he has a knack and love of sales. Especially since I know it is something beyond my capabilities.
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That’s great news @qbrozen ! Best of luck to him. Let us know how it works out.
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So I started to do a little more digging on the 2011 ES350 with 74K miles on it. I entered the VIN into caredge.com and was able to print out a copy of the original window sticker. $44,299 was the original sticker price back in 2011. It has the ULTRA LUXURY PACKAGE which includes heated & ventilated front seats, HID headlights, Perforated Leather Trim Interior, Power Rear Sunshade, Panorama Glass Moonroof, a Full Sized 5th Wheel, as well as (last but not least) a wood & leather steering wheel & shift knob.
I know, I know, if this vehicle was on @breld ‘s radar he would have already bought it plus a stick shift Miata for his wife.
I planned to go and check out the car tonight after work, but my 2 hour plus commute put a damper on those plans. I did get a chance to drive to the lot after hours on my way home from hockey practice drop off. From what I could see, it is really clean inside & out. The paint is shiny. The wheels don’t have any pitting or dirt lodged around the lugnuts.
According to CarGurus, it is priced FAIR at $12,904, which is the finance price according to the dealer’s website. It does seem to be the lowest mileage 2011 ES350 within 100 miles. Cash price is $13,904. Plus the $899 doc fee. I plugged the VIN into Carvana as if I was going to sell it to them. It spit out $10,200 as a value.
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According to the CarFax, the dealer did the following work to prep for the sale:
Vehicle serviced
Air filter replaced
Brake rotor(s) resurfaced
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Front brake pads replaced
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
Oil and filter changed
Safety inspection performed
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A new Camry LE Hybrid is about $31ish-$32ish. AWDs are in the $35K range.
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This!
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The ES350 seems like a great deal. The VVT oil line problem was gone by 2011 as well. That’s also a deceptively fast car. My 06 Avalon with the same engine surprised quite a few at the stop light
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If known issue likely already addressed by now. Or just proactively replace it if you buy the car.
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@qbrozen - Thanks for sharing this. We are here for you.
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The university told me that maybe I should come back when I am a little more serious about my studies and there were some serious heart to hearts with my parents. Basically they said ‘just get a degree’. Maybe not the best advice but it has all worked out. I am one of those whose profession has absolutely nothing to do with his degree but I have scratched out a pretty good career.
Hang in there @qbrozen. It’ll work out!
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My son started out wanting an MBA in Business but ended up majoring in History and Sports Management. Of course his current job at Ridgetop Research didn't fit any of those but he's happy. I still think he'll end up in a job more related to sports, but time will tell.
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Hey that Blutarsky guy had a 0.0 and he became a senator!
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While I majored (Communications; why are you snickering?!) in what I thought I generally wanted to do (woulda, shoulda, coulda?), my two diverse careers weren't directly related to it. I didn't have the drive or maturity to pursue that avenue.
But, once I grew up and took the first reasonable job offered to me and was fired a year later, deservedly so, another shot in the maturity arm and on I progressed to low-level success in a couple of fields.
My point? Not sure I have one...
Oh, yeah, agreeing with au1994. He'll figure it out.
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When I graduated HS, I kinda sorta knew I wanted to do something business related. But, while my folks provided a comfortable life growing up, there wasn't a lot of money available for college.
My original plan was to attend a junior college for a couple of years, get my AA (or AS, whatever), then transfer to a Cal State School to finish my degree. At the time, the closest school was in Northridge, about an hour away.
I took a summer semester at the jr college right after graduating (first introduction to computers), and a golf class (sure, why not?). Completed a full semester in the fall of that year - math, history, and one or two others that escape my memory.
Started the spring semester when my folks were contacted by the parents of a HS friend of mine - he had met with a recruiter from some school called DeVry, and while my friend wasn't a great fit for the programs, they did mention my name as someone who might be interested.
The recruiter came over and made his pitch - there were two programs, one for electrical engineering, the other for computer information systems. The CIS track was intriguing, as it wasn't science based, but business based - accounting, project management, public speaking, in addition to the core tech classes (mostly COBOL related at the time). The kicker was that tuition was handled like a revolving credit line - the student loans I would take out would be applied to the balance, and the folks could make a monthly payment like they would on an installment loan to cover the balance. And, the program ran on a "trimester" schedule, meaning I would graduate in 32 months (15 or 16 credits per trimester, all pre-selected).
The only slight issue was that the closest school to us was in Phoenix. But - good news! My dad had an old Navy buddy who lived there - we would drive out occasionally to visit them when I was a kid. I think his wife's mother had a 3 bedroom townhouse and could use a roommate. Score - I had a place to live, for only $150/mo. All I had to do was find a part time job to cover my expenses.
I moved to Phoenix in February of 1983, and graduated in October of 1985 - barely. I kept failing the damn COBOL lab class - took me three times to finally get a D. For the record, this was all before PCs were even a thing, so all our programming was done off line, then submitted to an IBM mainframe in Chicago, where they would run overnight and we'd get the results in the morning.
Anyway, I think I graduated with a 3.1 or 3.2 GPA, and my dad (!) helped me secure my first job post graduation, as the city had contracted with a company to outsource their Data Processing services. He introduced me to the president of the company, I must have interviewed well, and I got hired.
So, I didn't have the traditional college experience, with dorm rooms, and football games and the like, but I did get a degree. The tech skills aged pretty badly (JCL? Assembler?) , but some of the other courses (accounting, public speaking) did help me throughout my career.
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Did you use a green card or yellow card?
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Thats a really cool story. I remember Devry advertising on TV in this time period.
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I knew 1 or 2 that buck shotted and wore it like a badge of honor. For some reason, they weren’t around long.
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Like most for-profit schools, they got caught up in some of the financial shenannigans, but they are still around.
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Maybe just as well as we're having more house problems. Looks like the original hot water heater has fried itself and has been out since early Wednesday morning! They've put in elements & thermostats over the years but at close to 38 years old, it's toast. Their tech that came yesterday said as much. Waiting on the plumbers to show up to install the new one, another 40 gallon tank. Just need it done as I want a shower...the sooner the better! I knew this day was coming due to it's age so it is what it is! We've had a bunch of drama with the house this year & hoping that this will be the last of it for a spell. I'm tired of it all!!!
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The kicker: I had a National Merit Scholarship.
But, my 50th HS reunion is this year, so I'm over it, now.
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You got 38 years out of a water heater? That has to be a typo
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To quote a few wise men, “it’s not how you start but how you finish”. In the end I think I did alright but 5th grade was the worst 3 years of my life.
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It's Florida, the water is natually warm.
Mainframe Assembly Language had a list of instructons on a green card for 360 Series and a yellow card for the 370 Series.
Here's a picture of my old green card.
You got 38 years out of a water heater? That has to be a typo
————————————————-How? Do you think he meant 83?
jmonroe
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Today, I think that’s all done via AI.
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Wow - that’s insane. There are some parts of the country that 7-8 years is common.
I got 19 out of the one in my old house and was thrilled with that.
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Years ago at my old company our warehouse ran on AS/400. I used to be amazed at the code the programmers would enter into it and all the various screens they created all custom for us.
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It mostly comes down to the regularity and thoroughness of maintenance! For most people, 6-8 years is pretty typical. But, if you flush it regularly (at least annual) and change out anode rods every two years, it should pretty much last forever.
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Learn something new every day. Mine is on borrowed time as it is original to the house, built in 2002. Its in the garage but if it was like a previous house and in the upstairs laundry room, it would have been replaced by now.
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