I can't remember...did our post count get cleared when we went to this server?
Everyone remember this? The good old days! Things used to get heated
Inside Line was a trip- no moderation and the comments flew hot and heavy. A bunch of us used to concentrate on annoying one guy in particular. He just had to respond to every comment so he was akin to a cat chasing a laser pointer. He'd also been accused of being a shill for one manufacturer in particular; he vehemently denied it until a YT video was posted of him appearing in an ad for that manufacturer. Then he really went crazy; I think that he was the only IL participant that was ever actually banned.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Funny thing: I remember Inside Line well, as they had very well-done reviews and long-term tests of vehicles. But I don't remember the Forums being called that. I do remember forums around 1999/2000, but don't know if they were just called Edmunds Forums or Town Hall or something else.
The forums were called “Townhall Talk”. There was also “Carspace” which was like a social thing and you could post pics
———————————————— That was a little before my time. I do remember when I joined if the discussion drifted from cars, the mods would ask us to “get back on topic”. Don’t remember any dishwasher talk back then. Kinda boring to just talk cars all the time. After all, most folks have lives outside of cars.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
The long and short of it is that the STI exhaust was causing marital strife. And the juice was no longer worth the squeeze. I could have swapped to the stock WRX exhaust but would’ve had $$ now and then at lease end.
Local VW dealer made me a super strong trade offer and invoice less incentives, dealer traded for me, and I took it.
I very rarely access the forums on a PC ... but I noticed this today for the first time and had to laugh as it is literally the majority of this thread.
What can I cash those points in for? Are they like credit card points? I just redeemed my credit card point to get a $300 account credit. Can I get a dues reduction with these?😂
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The forums were called “Townhall Talk”. There was also “Carspace” which was like a social thing and you could post pics
———————————————— That was a little before my time. I do remember when I joined if the discussion drifted from cars, the mods would ask us to “get back on topic”. Don’t remember any dishwasher talk back then. Kinda boring to just talk cars all the time. After all, most folks have lives outside of cars.
jmonroe
It was actually much worse than that; if you started discussing anything that wasn't 100% on point you would get your knuckles rapped. And woe be unto you if you had the temerity to post a link to anything other than an Edmunds site.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The forums were called “Townhall Talk”. There was also “Carspace” which was like a social thing and you could post pics
———————————————— That was a little before my time. I do remember when I joined if the discussion drifted from cars, the mods would ask us to “get back on topic”. Don’t remember any dishwasher talk back then. Kinda boring to just talk cars all the time. After all, most folks have lives outside of cars.
jmonroe
It was actually much worse than that; if you started discussing anything that wasn't 100% on point you would get your knuckles rapped. And woe be unto you if you had the temerity to post a link to anything other than an Edmunds site.
————————————————- Yes, I remember some of that but once we started paying dues they eased up considerably. At least on the administering of corporal punishment.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
The thing I remember was the push at one point for more “granular” discussions by some newly-minted genius mod. So instead of a discussion about the new 2004 BELCHFIRE 8, they created a few dozen different discussions about the BELCHFIRE 8. They would scold you if you made a comment that didn’t fit into the correct pigeon hole, and would slap your wrist. I just gave up posting for a while at that point.
I sold my TRX to them. They were a PITA, though. Took the truck and gave me a check but then wouldn’t “activate” the check for me to deposit until their system showed my license plate as valid? That, evidently, takes some time. Of course, this was me selling a leased vehicle inside the first month. But they had the truck at Manheim weeks before paying me. I imagine they sold it and were waiting for their money before giving me mine. All very shady.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I sold my TRX to them. They were a PITA, though. Took the truck and gave me a check but then wouldn’t “activate” the check for me to deposit until their system showed my license plate as valid? That, evidently, takes some time. Of course, this was me selling a leased vehicle inside the first month. But they had the truck at Manheim weeks before paying me. I imagine they sold it and were waiting for their money before giving me mine. All very shady.
I forgot you had a TRX
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
The thing I remember was the push at one point for more “granular” discussions by some newly-minted genius mod. So instead of a discussion about the new 2004 BELCHFIRE 8, they created a few dozen different discussions about the BELCHFIRE 8. They would scold you if you made a comment that didn’t fit into the correct pigeon hole, and would slap your wrist. I just gave up posting for a while at that point.
That sounds like some of the non Edmunds forums I have explored. Exclusive clubs of “experts” who would flame you for asking basic questions.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Saw a video from this site on YT shorts. They buy vehicles. Don't know anything else about it. https://www.givemethevin.com/
I sold my TRX to them. They were a PITA, though. Took the truck and gave me a check but then wouldn’t “activate” the check for me to deposit until their system showed my license plate as valid? That, evidently, takes some time. Of course, this was me selling a leased vehicle inside the first month. But they had the truck at Manheim weeks before paying me. I imagine they sold it and were waiting for their money before giving me mine. All very shady.
I forgot you had a TRX
———————————————— It is tough without a car-card, huh?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
If i had it, I’d pay it. That is too cool. In a different color combination of course.
———————————————— That dealer is just a couple miles from me. He’s been around forever.
FWIW, my son has taken his 2018 X3 there for service a few times (bought it used from a dealer in the state of Washington a couple years ago) and has been pleased with their work and just as importantly, pleased with their people.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Honestly, I really doubt I’d ever pay that kind of money for anything short of a super car, even if I won the lottery. It is just too wasteful for me. Oddly, I’m totally cool paying hundreds of thousands for a fleet of vehicles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
Excellent choice!
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@breld said:
Alright, finally pulling the trigger.
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
Congratulations, but that took longer than I thought that it would 😇
I figured you would get another GTI until the white one was gone.
Hopefully this tS has a clutch that is more stout than the last GTI😇
@breld, congrats, I knew it wouldn’t take long. Only the color selection. At least you’re not old enough for Old Man’s Gray. Probably wouldn’t have fit you anyway.
We’re awaiting first blush comments.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I counted 4 other M cars in the showroom besides that one. Two M3s (one a Competition), an M5, and an M4. I'm not a fan of the interior design on anything though.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
Getting invoice on anything these days is amazing. Good job.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
Wow; that took forever! I'm glad you finally got 'er done!
No, seriously: Congrats!
(even if it is a white car)
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
That white pearl 2025 VW GTI sold on Monday as expected. They told me they had two other folks interested. But, just wasn't ready to buy this week. Hopefully the VW dealer near the house will get one in soon. They do have a blue one in transit but prefer the white pearl color. Since I'd rather buy at the closer dealer, willing to wait awhile longer.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I hope he stopped at Martha’s ice cream while he was up there. It’s rated #1 on the Enterprise driver’s restaurant guide. Biggest “small” soft ice cream cone on the planet.
———————————————— I meant to comment on this but I forgot. Just thought you’d like to know I like your haircut.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
In case anyone is considering a VW.
The forums were called “Townhall Talk”. There was also “Carspace” which was like a social thing and you could post pics
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
https://www.givemethevin.com/
That was a little before my time. I do remember when I joined if the discussion drifted from cars, the mods would ask us to “get back on topic”. Don’t remember any dishwasher talk back then. Kinda boring to just talk cars all the time. After all, most folks have lives outside of cars.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Yes, I remember some of that but once we started paying dues they eased up considerably. At least on the administering of corporal punishment.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
I sold my TRX to them. They were a PITA, though. Took the truck and gave me a check but then wouldn’t “activate” the check for me to deposit until their system showed my license plate as valid? That, evidently, takes some time. Of course, this was me selling a leased vehicle inside the first month. But they had the truck at Manheim weeks before paying me. I imagine they sold it and were waiting for their money before giving me mine. All very shady.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I forgot you had a TRX
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Not on auto imports. Still live.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
Dealer wasted no time getting this on the lot.
https://www.ourismanchryslerdodgejeep.net/used/Ram/2022-Ram-1500-f97b75a0ac183a70ffe890d319ed9ec2.htm
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
What did they show as your trade in allowance?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
32K
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Decent markup.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Not on auto imports. Still live.
No matter, another court stopped the first court so it’s still up in the air.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I forgot you had a TRX
————————————————It is tough without a car-card, huh?
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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If they get it, I’d say it’s a home run but they’re still in the batters box. We’d all like @tjc78 to let us know what happened.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Exactly. It smelled when I parked it…. Oil change was due too. Coolant issue is still under warranty so Stellantis will foot that bill.
I don’t care what they get for it. In all honesty they saved me $5 a month and saved me two payments and a dispo fee. It was one of win/win deals.
If I had included the trade from the get go maybe there was another $1000 or 2 in the deal for me but I was satisfied with the outcome
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
For all the wagon folks.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
That dealer is just a couple miles from me. He’s been around forever.
FWIW, my son has taken his 2018 X3 there for service a few times (bought it used from a dealer in the state of Washington a couple years ago) and has been pleased with their work and just as importantly, pleased with their people.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
$130k? Pass.
Honestly, I really doubt I’d ever pay that kind of money for anything short of a super car, even if I won the lottery. It is just too wasteful for me. Oddly, I’m totally cool paying hundreds of thousands for a fleet of vehicles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That’s. Spicy
For that much money you think they could afford to install the clutch pedal.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
I know many would prefer the WR Blue, but I’m a sucker for a clean white car. I found this one this morning - a tS trim but they also added the short shift kit among some other nice options. And they were pretty aggressive with discounting, offering at invoice.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Congratulations, but that took longer than I thought that it would 😇
I figured you would get another GTI until the white one was gone.
Hopefully this tS has a clutch that is more stout than the last GTI😇
I like the carbon fiber but not the stuck on infotainment and gauge panels
I like the carbon fiber but not the stuck on infotainment and gauge panels
That's the thing- it's the same basic IP and console you find on an X1.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
We’re awaiting first blush comments.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Never change, @breld never change…
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
I counted 4 other M cars in the showroom besides that one. Two M3s (one a Competition), an M5, and an M4. I'm not a fan of the interior design on anything though.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
No, seriously: Congrats!
(even if it is a white car)
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I meant to comment on this but I forgot. Just thought you’d like to know I like your haircut.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Definitely change your underwear at the bare minimum