Real-World Trade-In Values

clpurnell · November 2003

can you give me an opinion on this one.

clpurnell Nov 14, 2003 2:39pm

Also for pure curiosity what are Porsche Cayyene S with the normal stuff doing at the auctions.

dardson1 · November 2003

Many thanks for the info. This is a great site.

lawrence528i · November 2003

sorry about that but i'm pretty new to this forum thing, ok here it goes

1998 BMW 528i Black on Gray, 71000k miles Clean Title
glass sunroof, gray leather, wood trim, sport package, 18" staggered M5 wheels, it has a few scratches on the back bumper, a scuff and the front bumper, and a ding on the left back passanger side door ( very small ). It is well maintained I detail it about every week or so, and change the oil regularly. Anything else let me know guys

m3fan · November 2003

Any chance I might get some Canadian data in here?

philipnow · November 2003

handsfree · November 2003

It looks like your Florida teams did pretty good yesterday (hubby is a big FL fan).
But onto the important items, we have a friend that bought a 03 Acura RSX about 6 months ago and now they need to get into a 4dr car or van, because they now have a little one on the way.
It's silver in color, dark gray leather, auto, NOT an S, has 7,100 miles, it's clean, no kisses as you call them, looks new (it is!) has all the power options, has a fact wing. They paid like $22,000 for it new and now 2 dealers are saying like $15/$16 on a trade for a Ody, Pilot, MDX.
We have had Acura's before and I don't remember taking a beating like this. I hope I didn't leave anything out, I hate going to my room.

As Always, Thanks!
M.

bryann · November 2003

i have a fully loaded 98 maxima se with auto and 70k miles. maybe a step under excellent shape considering it has normal wear and tear for a 5 year old car. what would you consider trade and private sale for this car. it is silver with black leather. power everything, abs, side airbags, heated seats and mirrors and bose. thanks.

dcyn · November 2003

Thank you,Terry.

Oh..the reason I had to have body work done was because when the thieves stole my HID headlights they bent the fender and hood tips up (the dirty blank,blank,blanks,blanks....well,you can figure out the the blanks).

BTW, could you tell me if you think $36 is a good purchase price for a 03 Acura MDX touring w/nav and 3299 miles ( it was 2900 miles before the service manager at the dealership started driving it around 2 weeks ago, after I put a good faith deposit down on it,which the dealership failed to process....but that's another story)?

Again, any input you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

isellhondas · November 2003

A five speed on that 97 Prelude won't hurt it very much. For some reason, people tend to lean toward sticks on these.

Still an automatic would be better.

dkuhajda · November 2003

Your description is very lacking. Be specific about the condition, dings, scratches, paint swirls, interior, smokers car, leather cracking, plus the tires/mechanicals, underbody signs of rust, etc. Where the heck is it located? Terry will only be able to give an accurate crystal ball reading with enough information.

FYI we just bought a 98 Maxima, fair condition, and 95K without leather for under $4500. It needed tires, extra detail (lots of McD's fries under the seats), and all maintenance up to date before sale.

BTW a 5-6 year old 70K car might qualify as good/average condition, I have yet to see a more than 3 year old car with more than 25K miles be even close to excellent.

jerlf55 · November 2003

Terry,
Would really like your take on this. Took my current vehicle, 2000 RX300 and was offered 22,000 for it at local Lexus dealer. It is FWD, 29,500 miles, Silver/Gray leather, dimming mirrors & CD (pretty basic for 2000). No dents, clean,non smoker, just a few small stone chips up front. Seem decent? Thanks!

anonymousposts · November 2003

dk: Then you haven't seen my husband's 94 LS400 Anniversary Edition with 124,000 miles. No scracthes in the paint, still very, very glossy (it's pearl white and you can still see your reflection in the paint), no rips, cracks, or tears let alone stains on the interior, new tires, no paintwork. In fact, there is a line of people jumping at the gun to buy his baby if he ever decided to sell it. But honestly, I think he would sell me before he sold that car.

It's rare to find a excellent condition used car, especially a 10 year old one, but they do exist. You just have to know where and how to look and you have to be meticulous about maintenance, care, and even where you park it.

dkuhajda · November 2003

But, have yet to see one come in for trade and have never seen one make it to the auction. The dealers that do take an older car in on trade like that almost always retail it out themselves.

I do think I made the point about the poster needing to give a really, really accurate description of his car, especially if he thinks it is almost excellent condition. There is just no way Terry (or anyone else) will be able to judge the car without a lot more details.

As someone else recently posted. Normal wear and tear can mean a lot. A single shopping cart ding may mean nothing to one person but be totally unacceptable to another.

rroyce10 · November 2003

..... Hey Bud, how are you .? .. your the Ex Chi-Town hustler that ran off to Houston, right .?

        Silver, no slider, no chromee's, 46k, a small meteorite hit to the starboard side of the vehicle .. sounds like in and around the mid to high $12's, "could" roll towards the $13ish zipcode depending on the rubber, service, etc ..


            03 "S" with 3/4k, loaded up, slider, etc, are doing in and around that $47ish range depending on the color ...

                      Terry.


                      Terry.

fsc1555 · November 2003

Terry!
Sorry for not enough info

MB C280 1998 - white in excellent condition with leather seats, power moonroof, rainsensing windshield wipers, 6 compact disc changer and cellular phone - 53000 miles in west texas area.
thanks

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... How about, Windsor is right down the street from Detroit ....

Terry

clpurnell · November 2003

Thanks a bunch that is what I have been seeing. You are right on target do not miss those chicago winters at all (78 today in h-town). I thought my depreciation was bad but from 65-47k is quite a hit.

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... It could be a lot worse .. you could be driving a Bimmer 745Li .. ouch.!

Terry.

steine13 · November 2003

Saw one today... not so bad in white... thought "someone likes 'em!"... then I saw the dealer plate.. oh well. -m

clpurnell · November 2003

Those must be a screaming deal used. What are they going for at the auctions. I actually like them.

trinidadmatt · November 2003

4cyl, 93k miles (hwy), good paint (couple of dings), no body work, no extras. What's the value for Houston or Jackson, MS? Would it be better to sell private? Thanks for the help.

akangl · November 2003

Color? Options? Auto or manual? Better get some more info in here or you are gonna get sent to Terry's torture chamber and have to listen to Barney songs all day!!

*walks off singing.....I love you....you love me....we're a happy family....*

driftracer · November 2003

After 15 years in the business, I STILL haven't found that "highway miles" section of the NADA book.

butchbr73 · November 2003

miles are miles, doesn't matter where they came from...... it's still miles on the odometer.

trinidadmatt · November 2003

yeah, i know when it comes to trading in miles are miles. that's where the selling privately comes in. wondering if it'd be worth my time.

it's a silver automatic. no options.

another question: what's the sales tax on cars in houston? just looking for a ballpark figure.

rickrover · November 2003

How much is a Silver/ Black 2001 BMW X5 3.0 with automatic, premium package, Xenon's, climate package (dual air) with only 15k miles? It's in Orlando Fl - 32828. Immaculate cond., not a scratch on it, original owner. I was offered about $30k on a trade - how much is it worth retail? 15k mile service was just performed, brake fluid was changed etc. it is perfect.

gold233790 · November 2003

I think I may have gotten lost in the flood of posts at the end of the week, but I'll repost. Anyway, Terry, we've outgrown our '03 XC90 and need to upgrade in space to a Sequioa. It happens when you get a 100 lb dog and new baby in the span of 6 months!!

Anyway, here are the details:

Black, 2.5T. No dings, dents, etc. Excellent condition, 14k miles. Only time it's been in is for 7500 service and regular oil and fluid changes. AWD. Premium package (leather, in-dash 6 CD, homelink, moonrood), climate package (heated seats, rain sensor wipers, air quality sensor). 17" wheels, which were an option on '03 but I believe are now standard. NO versatility- so no 3rd row seat (I know, could've used it!!!).

Anyway, can't find a number anywhere- the only prices I've seen are on this site, but those are actually so close to original MSRP (mine was $39,430- and sold for VERY close to it) that I can't believe they are accurate.

Thanks.

Jeff

tulanekid24 · November 2003

Hi,
Could you please tell me the value of a 2002 VW Jetta GLS with 1.8T motor. It is a Blue, 5 speed manual loaded with every option (sport package and wheels, heated Leather, Sunroof, power everything, CD, Monsoon Sound system, etc.) It has 19,000 miles on it and 2 years of warranty left. I am in New Orleans.
What should I expect as a trade in?

Thanks

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... It's hard to tell what body styles can or will do .. the new ES isn't any barn burner, the new "7" Bimmer hasn't robbed any banks, still waiting for the "smoke to clear" on the new 5 ..

But if it's any help, any 95 GS300 that's c l e a n, miles in the 60/70k range, knee deep, lookin' and feeling like any 01, can still do the $9's on a trade .. drop it in any paper and "phooof" ~ gimme $13 grand .....

Terry

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... It's not New Orleans .. it's "Naw Leans" ...

Handshaker, GLS, big tunes, slider, 1.8t, hinky blue color, cold package, 19k .. lot's of Jetta's around, seen bunches down by Jackson square .. trade side, in and around the $12's, "maybe" "if" it's super clean, glows in the dark, no kisses, no Mardi Gras leftovers, it might "maybe" scroll towards $13, the color, the miles and the handshaker kill it ... how much do you owe ...?

Terry.

tulanekid24 · November 2003

I don't owe anything, its paid for already, but I was offered $11k for trade in.

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... The 03 745Li's with 5/7/9k, MSRP around $85, are doing in and around that $59/$60 range ... kinda like wearing a fake Rolex, no one will ever know til' ya go to sell it .l.o.l...

Terry.

steine13 · November 2003

Now THAT's gonna leave a mark.
Ouch.
I assume one can send the bill to Mr. Bangle?
-m

tulanekid24 · November 2003

You mentioned that the mileage on my trade in is killing me. Why is 19k miles on a 2 year old car bad? Thats less than 1000 miles per month. That is low mileage in my opinion.

rroyce10 · November 2003

....... $11,0 ... ?

Your supposed to have the Mardi Gra parties on the streets, not in the Jetta ....

Terry.

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... Hey, I'm on your side .. even though the 04's are on the ground, most of the "market" is still thinkin' 03's .. so, in their minds their thinkin' ~ "oh, it's one year old and it has 20k" .. put that aside, what about that "I'm going blind blue" and that funny thing between the driver and passenger seat that you hafta move all over the place ...?

Terry ;-)

steine13 · November 2003

Terry,
One more, please?

46k miles.

Color is a weird silver-brown-gray type deal.
Don't know how else to describe it, just like a really dark silver; I kinda like it.

It's got pwr locks/windows/mirrors; cruise, AC, and it's auto (3sp, ugh).

No, it's not for me :-)

It's at the local "Pontiac Superstore" and a buddy's wife thinks she's going to buy it.

She's a microbiology Ph.D. from India, and this will be her first new car... the salesman is somewhat confused; she's doing all the talking, but he's doing the driving. This ought to be fun...

TIA,
-Mathias

rroyce10 · November 2003

.... ** and it's auto (3sp, ugh)** ....

Meaning it's not a LSI ... no wheels, no slider, no cd, no side airbags, color is like a gun metal (Academy gray by Caddy) and we have 46k .. dealer probably paid in and around $5,5/$6,0, add a this and that, "maybe" $6,5 to the table $7,9 or less should take it home, miles kinda hold this one back .. now if it was a LSI .. ..

Terry.

rroyce10 · November 2003

.... Your right, it's about brand new .. at 7k the miles are super low, auto, best color, leather it's got all the stuff ..

       $15/$16 ...? .. unless we have some KFC in the back seats, some side or front kisses from the K-Mart battles, then $15,0 does seem a little on the looow side .. $16/$16,5 would be just about all of it, even with the low miles ..

        Acura builds a great vehicle, but the RSX, like a lot of coupes, they either make it or break it, that's a tuff market especially this time of the year ....

                     Terry.

qbrozen · November 2003

OK, a new TL is calling my name so I'm gonna post this again and see what happens. I'm hoping I can resist the urge till all the new vehicles hit the streets and I can make a fair comparison, but just in case...

'98 Volvo S70 T5 automatic
slider, cowskins, bun warmers, new rubber, seats have been hovered in, no paintwork. Could pass for an '00.

82K big ole miles

Coral Red over tan leather here in jersey.

Please be gentle.

thanks

steine13 · November 2003

Thanks, Terry!

Well, I held out on you.. they're "asking" $6995, at which point it didn't look to me like they were trying to kill anyone.
I suggested to my friends they try a little lower, but not lose it... it's been there for a while.

Not a bad little car... hmmmm '01 Prizm... or '97 Camry with double the miles for the same $$$ ... lemme think here... -m

rroyce10 · November 2003

Trade Help by builttospill1 Nov 14, 2003 (11:18 pm)
We are looking to purchase an 04 TL or G35 and would like trade info for the following cars:

2000 Black Ford Focus SE
25,000 miles
Sunroof
Powerlocks
Spoiler
16 Valve Engine
Cassetteplayer
serviced only at dealer car in great condition
and ...

      *~~~ SE, miles are super low, color is good for the area, we got a spoiler, slider (factory.?), auto (I hope) .. actually this sounds like a pretty nice vehicle .. trade side, in and around the low to mid $5's, maybe might "could" roll towards the $6 figure -IF, it's clean and nice ...

1994 Boston Green BMW 318IS
Sunroof
Grat Cloth Seats
Powerdoor locks
74,000 miles
car in very good condition ..

   .... *~~~ these dudes have to have all the service, no repaints, deep in the rubber dept, cloth (no help), no rust (especially around the sunroofs) .. if it looks, drives, handles like a 98, then trade side you should be seeing in and around the high $4's, "might" see as much as the double nickels ($5,5) .. if it's Jam up, glows in the dark and needs -0- ....

                Let me know ..

                       Terry.

rroyce10 · November 2003

...... Hmmm we have some miles here .. I love the color, most don't, we got the Moo package, slider, butt burners, *seats have been hovered in, no paintwork. Could pass for an '00 .... gotcha, great description Thanks.

        Miles won't be your friend here, depending on the dealer, trade side in and around the high $7's, could roll towards the low $8's ...

               Don't forget to let me know ..

                      Terry

qbrozen · November 2003

i'll let ya know now, it ain't going anywhere. No way I'm giving up this car for that money. I think I owe about twice that!

Guess its no new car for a couple more years (after which time I should have in the neighborhood of 130K miles, so it will be worth what? $2?).

Thanks for the help, Terry.

yeah, i really like the color, too. not many around quite like it.

So its back to my idea of picking up a beater to put heavy miles on. I'm thinking a low mileage Hyundai is about the cheapest way to go. Would love to hear your opinion on that.

stickguy · November 2003

You will have your Volvo for much the same reason I might end up keeping my Maxima. Real hard to justify the $$ difference to move up to a new one, when the old one doesn't have any problems (just my constant desire for something new).

The new TLs are real nice however. If the 6 speed is as nice as I have heard, it might make for a tough decision.

dkuhajda · November 2003

I have to ask, what was the maintenace history on the vehicle? I would hope the fluids were replaced on the time schedule for severe duty per the owners manual, at a minimum for normal duty. Having been burned before with lots of low mileage related old car problems, I always like to know that things were done on time.

What about underbody surface corrosion? Take a good look under the fender wells, bottom of the door seams, etc. At least you live where there is less road salt use. Was it smoked in?

Honestly, it is not worth much even if perfect. It is a 93 Escort Wagon. Lets see 99's with low miles 40K are doing $5500 at retail. Yours is 11 years old now. If the service is up to date, per time schedule (not miles) and it looks like a 2000. $2500 is a fair asking price private party.

mmo1184 · November 2003

Hi, I am interested in knowing the trade in and private party values for a 1998 Audi A4 Quattro 4Dr Sedan in Hibiscus Red with Gray CLOTH interior,No Sport Package,Tiptronic, sunroof,heated seats, no cd player, power driver seat, side air bags, climate control, power windows/locks,fairly new tires. Good Condition with 77,600 miles in Fairfield County, CT NYC Metro Area. Thanks

qbrozen · November 2003

yeah, its mostly just wanting something new all the time, but I also constantly worry about every little noise or shudder when its out of warranty.

the 6-speed is REAL nice. That's what I test drove on Saturday. First car I've driven that I thought "yup, this is better than my volvo."

akangl · November 2003

At a friend of mine's car lot last night. If it passes its safety inspection this morning it will get a detail and go on the lot.

Fingers crossed it sells. Didn't even bring it home, drove it from the shop to the car lot. I told the guy that I'd like to get $5k out of it, but anything over $4k and I'm happy. Seems to be what the market is for those darn things.

frag235 · November 2003

I know you're busy

but I had a question....what are 2003 Honda Accords (EX/leather/auto/sedan/light colors) with average miles currently doing at the auctions?

I'll probably buy an 04 but I was curious if I could save "much" by buying slightly used.

Thanks!

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