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Don't look at it as bragging, look at it like admitting you have a problem is the first step towards recovery. Although I don't think recovery is a goal of CCBA...
However, if you want to trade it in... dealers are looking for what sells best and fastest.. and automatics are where the business is.. and, you will take a hit on trade-in with a manual.
Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.. The first that comes to mind is Porsche.. Tiptronic transmissions are a $3K option, and knock trade-in down by about $2K.. So, getting that automatic will cost you about $5K..
Manual Miatas probably bring about the same price as automatics.. Believe it or not, an automatic Vette probably brings more money than a manual..
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That I believe. My non scientific observations have shown me that the typical Vette driver is either a 50 YO male in his MLC or a trophy spouse.
central new jersey
2001 bmw 330cic convertible
rwd, automatic
37,000 miles
black/tan
sport package,full power roof, harmon kardon, integrated xm radio, certified
good condition..dont really drive in the winter..never in an accident...a few little scratches pretty normal wear and tear...
up to date maintenance, just replaced the brakes, tires have about 12,000 miles on them
i would like to know the value but also am wondering if i should trade now or wait until the spring..i dont owe anything on the car but am worried i wont get fair value now and can afford to wait.thanks in advance for the help.
my brother in law is looking for the trade in value on the folowing - thanks. looking to go bigger(expy). thanks in advance.
Location: central connecticut
Year/Make/Model: '03 ford explorer XLT
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: v-8, auto
Driveline: 4WD
Mileage: 22k
color: exterior: white/charcoal interior: black
options: alloys, sun roof, leather, 3rd seat, 2 tone, towing package, 6 disc changer, running boards, bug deflector, mud flaps
Condition: no noted scratches or dings (garaged)
Tires - original - good tread
Other: lots of trips to the sunshine state.
2000 Saturn LS1
83,000 miles
5 speed trans
sunroof
4 door
rwd
white
Nice condition, below average tires
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Black rs automatic
Engine runs great
grey cloth interior
body in great shape
paint nice & glossy
interior front seats nice:
back seat is in great shape-never used
dashboard cracked needs to be replaced(s.fla sun)
ac ok, not ice cold
stereo speakers blown
tires about 50% wear
in South Florida
Miles 75,000
Let me know what I can get private party please
Thanks
Is that true of all makes? The auto and the stick are the same cost in the new corvettes. I can't imagine a corvette with an automatic, but that is me. I guess nobody is going to make a purchase decision on that vehicle based on what resale will be, but will it be a factor?
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It depends on the vehicle, it's not so much the manual transmission, it's the market - most folks "prefer" automatics, most buyers drink Slurpys, read the WSJ, talk on the cell phone and do crossword puzzles while they're driving and the manual has gone wayside, plus gas mileage is "almost" the same, so it becomes a major convenient "thing" .... most of the handshaker buyers are usually younger for the sport side, or you get the guy going thru is mid-life crisis and can't live without his BMW 540 6-speed or the Vette (that ends up getting parked in the garage for 5 out of 12 months) ..
Manual trannys are kind of like "leasing" a car .. if you know what your going to be doing in 15 or 25 months, then it's not a problem, it's the folks that buy the handshaker and start going psycho in the next 15 months or less and they can't unload these dudes, especially the the hi-end imports, it can cost $2,000/$4,000 at trade-time depending on the vehicle and tuff to sell -- But .. if you really truly enjoy it and you know the ramifications upfront, then buy/drive and enjoy it ............
PS: (disclaimer) handshakers in the sport types can find a market, sooner or later .. but handshakers in the SUV's can be the kiss of death.
Terry.
Terry.
Terry.
2004 Monte Carlo ss
South Florida
7000 Miles (average 10,000 miles next 12 months)
Black leather,moonroof, onstar, pwr wind/seats heated seats pass/driver, climate control all the bells & whistles
Silver
excellent condition -garage kept Want to see best time to trade this in.
Thanks
Shari
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Obviously your buying and/or trading everything ... 2 years.? your kidding right.? you must be doing some major Tryptophan ...
04 SS's with tiny miles and super clean, are doing in and around the the high $15's low low $16's on the trade side .. 02's are seeing the tall $11's, maybe the low low low $12's with miles in the teens, but they have to be puuurffect ...................
Terry.
2002 VW Passat GLS
4dr
1.8T Automatic
FWD
21,000
Anthracite Blue
Sun roof, Monsoon stereo, Home link, Auto, leather.
Interior, exterior clean, small scratches on exterior.
Original tires, brakes in good condition.
Maintained by dealer at regular intervals.
Never in accident, factory 4yr/50k warrantee in effect.
Terry.
Tucson AZ
99 Camry LE
4 door
2.2 4 cyl
auto trans
85,000 miles
color: burnt sage? brownish grey gold?
ABS, rest equiped as normal LE Camry of the year
(no alloys, or moon roof, or power seat or keyless remote)
no body work, paint shiney, interior has no obvious tears or unusual wear (except as expected for 85 clicks)
tires: high end Michelins about 50% or more left
Brakes done recently, perhaps 10,000 miles ago dealer maintained every 5,000 miles
Thanks Terry, and I hope you didn't OD on Turkey
Jeff
Did I OD on Turkey.? .. aahh, nothing a good wheelchair won't fix ..........
Sooo, we have a 99 LE Camry 4dr, we have 85k, auto, ABS, color is that tanish brownish color, tires are almost good and the stoppers are fresh ... after a super detail, a wonderful 4/5 liner Ad, all the paper work in the front seat, $7,495 *asking* and cut and run at the first $6,5/$6,9 ....... if it's nice and properly done, I bet $6,9 will be the target figure ...........
Let me know how it goes ..
Terry.
1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
Black, light gray leather
87,000 miles
standard Cadillac stuff plus CD, alarm, remote entry
no mechanical problems
paint's a bit faded, scattered scratches/chips, no rust or major damage and no accidents
leather's kinda dry but no cracks/rips and the interior is otherwise clean
Chicago, IL
Thanks in advance!
Given gas prices at $2.00 a gallon; the 17mpg or less that car will get around town; what is the market for the car? A/C blows cold? Sure there is NO rust, in Chicago? Look under the wheel wells and around the bottom area of the bumper.
$850-$1000 is about trade side money if it looks A1 with shiny paint. After a super detail, like new tires, prettied up real good, asking $2500 and out the door near $2,000. If it needs anything, start deducting. This is of course, assuming it does not reek of cigarette smoke. Cigarette smoke can flat kill a Caddy.
An as-is price of around $1000, maybe $850, might be right on the money depending on condition. The older cars condition varies considerably. Since the paint is faded, I have to assume the maintenance was sub-par and it needs considerable work to be A1 condition. The $850 might have been a fair offer depending on its condition. A little detail and maintenance work can really bring the value up considerably.
99 Dodge Durango SLT
5.9L V8 automatic
4WD (w FT option)
89,040 miles
Silver/Charcoal grey leather
3rd row seat, rear air, HD/Tow pkg, cruise, steering wheel radio controls
1 mini meteor door ding driver side pass door
Semivisible dings / abrasions on exterior paint, most would buff out, good looking truck, no rust / chips / cracks / dents
Interior in good shape, strong B+ / A-
50% tread on Michelin LTX AT
Brakes - recently done
Wild card #1: dealer-installed remanufactured engine, 32 months and 33k miles left on Dodge engine warranty, cost $6,000
Wild card #2: minor front end collision, flawless detailed and complete repair by M2 Collision Care
Trade value might be, ??
Pvt party retail, ??
thanks for the forum...
central new jersey
2001 bmw 330cic convertible
rwd, automatic
37,000 miles
black/tan
sport package,full power roof, harmon kardon, integrated xm radio, certified
good condition..dont really drive in the winter..never in an accident...a few little scratches pretty normal wear and tear...
up to date maintenance, just replaced the brakes, tires have about 12,000 miles on them
i would like to know the value but also am wondering if i should trade now or wait until the spring..i dont owe anything on the car but am worried i wont get fair value now and can afford to wait.thanks in advance for the help.
the RS has a V8 , t tops & power locks/windows. I was thinking about 2000.00 - 2500.00 .
The 04 monte I bought in October but the dealer bs'd me about the length of the warranty (it was a demo w/5K miles ). Wanted to know if it made sense to bail now. Seems I will hold on to it as it depreciated a great deal. I got it for almost 2 K under invoice plus the additional 3500 rebate so I did not do too bad.
Thanks for all the info!!
You kinda left that part out ..l.o.l.. without the rust and the seats not all faded away, some cooold breeze and a great detail, you could *ask* $2,900 and maybe see $1,900/$2,500 .. the good thing about some of these are, they won't depreciate much more ..............
Terry.
my brother in law is looking for the trade in value on the following - thanks. looking to go bigger(expo). thanks in advance.
Location: central connecticut
Year/Make/Model: '03 ford explorer XLT
Body Style: 4dr
Engine: v-8, auto
Driveline: 4WD
Mileage: 22k
color: exterior: white/charcoal interior: black
options: alloys, sun roof, leather, 3rd seat, 2 tone, towing package, 6 disc changer, running boards, bug deflector, mud flaps
Condition: no noted scratches or dings (garaged)
Tires - original - good tread
Other: lots of trips to the sunshine state.
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Sunshine State.? .. don't you mean the "Blue Roof" state.? I think there is a special documentary on CNN tonight at 7pm about whats been happening .........
Anyway ... we have a 03 Exploder XLT 4dr with 22k, V8, we have the 4wd, color is good, slider, 3rd seat, tow pack, tunes, boards .... If ~ we have some rubber left, no visits to the local body shop, no I ran over the folks waiting in line at Best Buys at 5:30 AM, no cut and snips in the interior and it's not all smoked out .. then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $14's, might maybe "could" find a dealer that lost his mind and drop the low $15's in it .. I have a feeling the Galves book will hold this one back .............
Terry.
1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
Black, light gray leather
87,000 miles
standard Cadillac stuff plus CD, alarm, remote entry
no mechanical problems
paint's a bit faded, scattered scratches/chips, no rust or major damage and no accidents
leather's kinda dry but no cracks/rips and the interior is otherwise clean
Chicago, IL
Thanks in advance!
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It's probably a lot better than you make it sound and it just "looks" bad ... it needs a great detail and probably some rubber(?) .. $850.? .. thats a little on the cheap side, unless it's all rusted out and it needs bunches of stuff ...
If everything works and runs like a champ, then if I were him (and I'm not) I would drop a few bucks at the detail shop and get myself a great Ad .. then $2,900 *asking* and sell it to the first Santa Elf for $1,9/$2,5 ..... remember: dirty vehicles get dirty money - and clean vehicles get clean money ...
Terry.
Thanks.
2000 Saturn LS1
83,000 miles
5 speed trans
sunroof
4 door
rwd
white
Nice condition, below average tires
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In Dell-A-Ware ... we have an 00 LS1, we gots the handshaker, we gots 83k, we gots the roof thing going on ..... (hmm, some description) ...
TONS of Saturns around, actually these are a great buy on the used car market .. this one has miles, no rubber and the movin' around thing ... if it's nice, serviced, no Maaco .. then trade side, in and around the $2,0/$2,5ish zipcode ......................
Terry.
Orlando, FL
2002 VW Passat GLS
4door
1.8T
FWD
21,000
Anthracite Blue
Sun roof, automatic, monsoon radio, leather
Interior clean, exterior good, small scratches on fenders.
Tires are original with large % of tread remaining.
Brakes original and working great, checked out fine at 20K
Always routinely maintained at dealer. Only needed to be in shop for maintenance and burned out headlights.
No prior damage/claims with insurance.
Still under 4yr 50k warrantee. (purchased June 2002)
Thanks from sunny Florida!
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Thanks for reposting and your patience .. it's just that all this turkey and all this ham is winning the battle and I can't get close enough to my keys .......
Oookay, we have an 02 Passat 2WD GLS 1.8T, the miles are low for the year, we have the no-sale blue thing going on, slider, auto, we have the Moron stereo and the leather ... if this is a clean one, no palm tree's hanging out the back window and no repaints or floods .. then trade side, in and around the mid to high $11's, might see the low low $12's ............... let me know how it goes.!
Terry.
- 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited Extended Cab
- 4.7L V8
- 4WD
- 28K miles
- Black/Oak
- TRD offroad package, tow package, all-weather guard package, auto-dimming mirror, 6disc CD/radio
- Excellent condition minus some scratches in the truck bed and some near the rear right light
- First owner, no accidents, dealer serviced
Thanks for your help Terry!
Steve
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In the land of lost Angels .....
Sounds like it could be a nice one .. we have the Lmt 4wd TRD, Ecab, good color for the area, V8, short miles, (Auto.?) tunes and the tow pack ... if it's a nice one, not towing a 30ft Formula up and down the coast, no repaints and deep rubber ... depending on the dealer, trade side, in and around the mid/tall $19's, maybe "might" see a dealer get crazy and get close to the $20ish figure, -If- it's absolutely puuuurfect, glows in the dark and it needs -0-, maybe ....
Don't forget to let me know .!
Terry.
Tundra V8's only come with the auto transmission.
More's the pity.
These things are nasty strong in the market... I have a feeling if that truck were to be drove (*) up here to MI or maybe WI, it would easily see $21 or $22 on the street... low mile 4x4, rust-free even on the dirty parts... can't find them around here, that's fer sure.
-Mathias
(*) to use the vernacular.
i will give it one more repost then will go into battle unarmed!!!
central new jersey
2001 bmw 330cic convertible
rwd, automatic
37,000 miles
black/tan
sport package,full power roof, harmon kardon, integrated xm radio, certified
good condition..dont really drive in the winter..never in an accident...a few little scratches pretty normal wear and tear...
up to date maintenance, just replaced the brakes, tires have about 12,000 miles on them
i would like to know the value but also am wondering if i should trade now or wait until the spring..i dont owe anything on the car but am worried i wont get fair value now and can afford to wait.thanks in advance for the help.
'02 LS430 Ultra; Silv/Blk; 31k miles; west coast clean
'02 LX470; MarkLev/Nav; blk/tan; 42k miles; west coast clean
'03 LX470 Eucalyp/Tan; MarkLev/Nav; 44k miles; west coast clean
'04 LX470 Blk/Gry; 40k miles; MarkLev/Nav/Rear DVD/NightVision; west coast clean
What saeth the sage for trade-in and ACV #s?
TIA.
Terry.
The V8/auto is one sweet powertrain, though.
-Mathias
Long time listener, first time caller..
NE Ohio - Akron / Canton
2002 Honda Accord Special Edition
4-dr sedan
4 cyl
Auto trans
35K
Black ext / grey interior
Alloy wheels, factory roof, single CD, PW/PDL/cruise
Condition - good, would look alot better with a proper detail. Some light scratches on the edge of the trunk, easily buffed out. Otherwise dirty but not damaged. Smoked in though.
Brakes - rotors shake very lightly on hard stops, tires, about 40%, only maintenence done is oil changes every 4K
No damage or wrecks
This is a model Honda made out of Accord LX models; they basically added the alloy wheels & roof to make it a little nicer than the LX. I think this was a factory version though as I've seen lots of them around in many areas.
Drives great, just needs a good cleaning. It's my mom's car, just trying to give her a hand.. Thanks Terry - keep up the good work!
Jason
Metro Detroit,Michigan (Southfield)
3 liter V6 FWD
22,000 miles
Alabaster exterior/gray interior
Fully loaded (sunroof,alloys,6 disc indash cd, stability package) no navigation or stereo upgrade.
Condition prior to accident-few paint chips and dings nothing major.
Condition now- both passenger doors destroyed, B pillar pushed in~6inches into cabin; Rear quarter panel damaged, drivers rear axle possibly ruined
(wheel still on but angled inward about 60 degrees-after being pushed into curb)
Expect appraisal in next 1-2 days, Again thanks!
Well ...... it's a Convert .. it's a Bimmer convert .. it's a 330cic convert with the black and tan .. it also has the sport and the HK .. it's a Bimmer convert with 37k and the auto thing ... if it's clean, no Popeyes chicken in the seats, no curb burners, no paint by numbers, no stitch and go in the top .. then trade side, in and around the low/mid $26 figure, might maybe "could" find a dealer that might crawl/fall/stall into the $27 figure, but because of the area and miles, I would think $26 would just about do it .......
What a beautiful thing: **i dont owe anything on the car but am worried** -- be happy, don't worry ...........
Let me know what happens.!
Terry.
Glad everyone is okay.
Hope & pray that they won't raise this one from the dead. If they do, hope and pray you leased it... :-(
Unhit, this thing would be worth some serious money... a guy can do a lot of body work for $10k, let alone $20+.
-Mathias, somewhat close by
Here's the deal on a smack like this ... **YOU** need to be there with the insurance co *and* the body shop for the "tear down" .. depending on the body shop, they will be lookin' for a home run, ever see a surgeon work for half price..?
There has been alot of posts lately on Edmunds about these type of situations - and it all starts off at a nice comfortable $5,500 and 2 months later "Wango Tango" they seem to be lookin' down the barrel of $11,0/$12,000+ and your renting a Hyundai that your paying for ...
A "good" quality body guy will have a pretty good idea, but go brain dead with the insurance company .. now, he can be off by a thousand here and a thousand there and parts are parts ... You need to know the: "Worst Case Scenario", so bring your camera and take LOT's of notes, once they have these things torn down, it's like a lottery ticket, a feeding frenzy for these guys ... check it out, then let me know all of the stuff - could very well be a total, or close enough to make it worth 60% at trade time ............... let me know.!
Terry.
Long time listener, first time caller..
NE Ohio - Akron / Canton
2002 Honda Accord Special Edition
4-dr sedan
4 cyl
Auto trans
35K
Black ext / grey interior
Alloy wheels, factory roof, single CD, PW/PDL/cruise
Condition - good, would look alot better with a proper detail. Some light scratches on the edge of the trunk, easily buffed out. Otherwise dirty but not damaged. Smoked in though.
Brakes - rotors shake very lightly on hard stops, tires, about 40%, only maintenence done is oil changes every 4K
No damage or wrecks
This is a model Honda made out of Accord LX models; they basically added the alloy wheels & roof to make it a little nicer than the LX. I think this was a factory version though as I've seen lots of them around in many areas.
Drives great, just needs a good cleaning. It's my mom's car, just trying to give her a hand.. Thanks Terry - keep up the good work!
Jason
Will take your advice terry and let you know the outcome soon.
P.S. One question - how and when do i bring up the issue of diminished value if they try to fix this thing?
Long time listener, first time caller..
NE Ohio - Akron / Canton
2002 Honda Accord Special Edition
4-dr sedan
4 cyl
Auto trans
35K
Black ext / grey interior
Alloy wheels, factory roof, single CD, PW/PDL/cruise
Condition - good, would look alot better with a proper detail. Some light scratches on the edge of the trunk, easily buffed out. Otherwise dirty but not damaged. Smoked in though.
Brakes - rotors shake very lightly on hard stops, tires, about 40%, only maintenence done is oil changes every 4K
No damage or wrecks
This is a model Honda made out of Accord LX models; they basically added the alloy wheels & roof to make it a little nicer than the LX. I think this was a factory version though as I've seen lots of them around in many areas.
Drives great, just needs a good cleaning. It's my mom's car, just trying to give her a hand.. Thanks Terry - keep up the good work!
Jason
What happened to the Browns yesterday.? .. they score 48 points and they still lose.!?! amaaazing .!
In the Land of the NEC ... we have a 02 SE Honda, 4dr 4 banger, 35k small miles for the year, the color is ok for the area, auto, slider, wheels, typical SE, yep very familiar with them, take an LX and put some stuff on em' and Honda makes an extra $400 a unit, not bad .....
If it cleans up, then trade side, in and around the low/mid $11's, maybe "might" see a dealer waddle towards the $12 figure .. but with "tumbleweed" time fast approaching and the weather seeing snowflakes, I have a funny feeling the mid $11's would just about do it ...........
Let me know how it goes ....
Terry.
Terry.
Location Palatine, IL (Northwest Suburb of Chicago)
2002 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport Sport Wagon
Engine 2.5 165 hp boxer 4
Driveline AWD
Mileage 53500
Exterior color silver with beige bumpers and door strip things (whatever they're called)
Alloy Wheels, Sony CD Player with steering wheel audio controls added on, Viper car alarm with Remote Start (550 ESP I believe) Arm rest air filtration system carpeted floor mats rubber floor mats (yes I have both) roof rack automatic dimming mirror with compass, mudflaps and I think that's it for options.
Exterior paint is in good condition. A couple of chips on front that haven't rusted (thank you wax) have touch up paint to touch up before trade in. There's a red blotch of paint on the driver's door (can probably buff out) and some paint missing from the plastic beige door thing (should be able to touch up) There's no dings or dents that I've noticed.
Interior looks like new. I've been very anal about keeping it nice on the inside.
Tires are Yokohama AS430s and were new in August
All maintenance up to 40k miles was done at a Subaru dealer. After that point we've maintained it ourselves.
Now for prior damage . . . :-) The car was purchased in June of 2001 (Subaru released the '02s early). In January of 2002 (with 12k miles on the odometer) I was run onto a median on I-94 which caused 12,000 worth of damage to the car. Insurance picked up the tab and repaired the car. Most of the suspension was replaced and the car was completely repainted in the original silver/beige colors. It was done with all genuine Subaru Parts. Looking at the car right now you wouldn't know it was in an accident.
Carfax also does NOT show this accident despite there being a major police write up and tickets issued (to the other guy) as well as a massive insurance claim.
So with all that being said, what can I expect for trade in value if I was to trade it in a few months from now.
Thanks -
Just got back from the Toyota dealer, tired of spending money on it, and wife wants to sell it to a family member who needs a car. I may drive it through the winter, and I may not...
Location: Columbus, OH
Year/Make/Model: '96 Toyota Avalon XL
Engine: 3.0 liter, 6 cylinder, auto
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 170k
Color: Tan/Tan
Major Options: alloys, sun roof, leather, 12 disk CD changer, keyless entry/alarm/remote start
Condition: Good considering age and miles. A few minor dings and scratches, driver's side seat leather shows some wear, but interior is good otherwise.
Tires - about 50%
Brakes: New
Maintenance: Current except for some seals/gaskets/CV boots that need to be replaced (about $1800 worth) Service dept said just keep an eye on the oil after I declined the repairs. I have been, and it isn't losing much. Will deduct the cost from my price. New PS pump and rack.
Other: front and rear bumper covers have been replaced/repainted. (parking garage - Jeep didn't want to stay parked and rolled into the back pushing the front into the wall.)
http://qwalls.net/images/96avalon.jpg
As usual, thanks for your help.
Q
P.S. The TL is still awesome. :-)