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Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable Sedans Pre-2008
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Not a Ford thing!
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Of course I seem to be the exception with SUV mania having taken over in Dearborn.
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The Duratec uses a chain, no need for replacement.
1. Just where do I look to see the gap in the molding in the back doors?
2. Upon further inspection, I spotted a small indentation (dent) in the front left wheel area. I asked the salesman about it and he quickly responded with "that is from the chains used to secure the car to the delivery truck." Any truth to that and should I be concerned?
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The molding problem I've been talking about is the rubber rail that runs just below the windows on the back doors, and the gap is around the post at the rear of the doors, especially the driver's side. To see a picture I took of mine, click here:
http://members.home.net/plyfury/taurus/gap.jpg
As far as a small dent in the wheel well, I couldn't find one on my car, and don't know what to tell you about the salesman's response.
Regarding gas mileage, at 4500 miles I'm finally getting around 20 mpg with daily commuting, but a recent 350 mile road trip only yielded 24.5 mpg. Maybe it'll improve when I don't need to run the air conditioning.
One more note about sound systems: The base 6-speaker AM/FM/Cassette system in the '97 Taurus GL that I used to have sounded great. For '99 and 2000 though, Ford cut back to 4 speakers for the base system, which I thought sounded awful. That's why I went for the Mach Audio System in my new SEL, and it sounds great to me. The CD changer is fantastic, and I couldn't be happier with it.
Do the rpms surge only for about the 1st minute or so? Mine ('97 GL) tends to do that too, but always stops after about a minute or so. Mine has the vulcan 3.0L engine
Ours had 4000 miles on it and was white. It had the standard motor and ABS, along with air tilt cruise, PW, PL, and standard radio. Tan cloth interior.
The car was attractive, especially with tan interior. I typically hate column shifters, but I must admit the flip/fold seat console was incredibly useful and convenient to have in its place. The climate control switches are perfect, and I like the large volume on the radio, but the other buttons were occasionally hard to find. The rest of the dash is tastefully done in nice plastic (unlike many GM cars) and has nice gauges. The vents are in the right spot. Door panels are nice also. The seat cloth is nice, too although the seats are bit unshapely (I am used to the ultra comfy seats in my SHO) and maybe a bit hard. There is nothing offensive about the interior and its very nice, yet its not as airy feeling as my '99 Taurus, nor is it particularly youthful looking. The interior is more tailored to an older more conservative crowd. So I prefer my 99, but many may like the 2000 better and certainly it is tasteful for a car selling under 20k. And it is plenty big inside and nice upright seats you can spend many hours in and not feel cramped.
Since I am used to my SHO and like quicker handling, stiffer riding vehicles, its tough for my to be 100% objective on the ride and handling, but I thought the steering to be a bit slow and mushy and the ride however was only marginally soft. Traditional car fans should find the ride right on and the car is very quiet. i blame the cheapo standard tires for the lack of aggressive feel to the car. That, and I am sure the steering is purposefully slow so the folks who like cruiser cars don't get offended. Again, though it was not pure mush, just enough mush to not feel real contemporary like say, a Passat would feel. I could certainly live with this as a second car but for a first car, myself, I would really prefer something a lot sportier. Yet, most folks would say its good.
The brakes i thought were subpar and should be updates. We climbed and descended many steep hills and the front disc/ rear drum brakes plain felt weak and mushy on the pedal. Again, I am used to the 4 wheel discs on my SHO, which are better. Yet I stopped whenever I needed.
The Vulcan started and ran fine, and got 25-27 mpg on trips. The motor was quiet until it was pushed then it got noisy and rough and really gave away the fact it was a pushrod motor. It was still smoother than a four popper, but not nearly as nice as the 3.0 Duratec, so make sure you apgrade to the Duratec if you plan to get one. The acceleration was okay, but at times I would've liked more. Only in extreme freeway conditions of merging, etc. will the motor seem inadequate for most drivers though. The transmission was very well matched and held its gear on the big steep hills quite well, even though the engine was buzzing like a chain saw. But, we were on major steep hills.
The car felt solid as a rock and worth every bit its price and then some. Nothing malfunctioned and no rattles or anything petty like that. And the new larger trunk was something I liked, owning a 99 which has the lower trunk. We got lots of stuff in the trunk easy.
Overall, A solid car with lots of comfort, and good value and looks worth more than you'd pay. I would prefer a more sporting car, but for a lot of folks this works well. My advice is if you are to buy one, get for sure the Duratec DOHC and consider a tire upgrade if available. Maybe 4 wheel discs will be available for 2001, if they are do that too. But any other way you get this car is a good value for a large well built comfortable touring car.
v8shov8---while were asking, maybe they can return the v8 option and pump it up to 275 hp. An auto-manual transmission would rule, too. Hey, how bout adding an AWD option and heated memeory seats? And maybe an option like on the ALLroad Quattro Audi wagon to raise the car for more ground clearance if needed.
Spruce green, a 1999 color, returns to replace Tropic Green. All other 2000 colors return for 2001.
Need to find if anyone has an opinion of what would be a fair price for selling a 1994 with ONLY 19,600 miles on it! This is my problem now due to estate handling. It seems that it has the H/G problem BUT dealer has said they would fix under extended warranty if done before 03/01.
I have checked Edmunds, KBB and a few used car sites for similar cars but may have missed some... Any other good places to check??
Thanks!! More details available if needed.
We're talking steep hills though. In many cases the cruise control would not hold the speed up the hills. Or if the cruise was off you really had to floor it to keep from losing speed. If you didn't keep it to the floor, in a matter of seconds you were down 10mph.
The engine really did not sound comfortable in this element and was pretty rough. Not so much the volume was a problem as the type of noise. A balance shafted OHC motor would no doubt be smoother and of a more pleasant sound.
It seemed as it were really straining but in most flat interstate travel is was pretty quiet and unobtrusive and for the most part pretty good power. Certainly it was not a problem that would keep me from buying the car if push came to shove and the price was right, because its still a v6. Again, the tranny was very well matched to it.
I would spring the extra dough for the Duratec, though.
rona h - the vulcan and duratec have both proven to be very reliable. The main benefit to the Duratec is extra smoothness and more power. The mpg on the Vulcan should be a little more.
There had been some bad press in the past of bad taurus motors but these motors were in Taurus' only until 199%? and were 3.8. Any Taurus from 96 on has proven to be very reliable engine wise and a heck of a value.
Since that experience I've learned that most electronically controlled fuel injected cars are supposed to close the throttle body when you take your foot off the gas. This is more noticeable in newer LEV cars as this is done for emissions reasons. Sounds like the throttle body closing is delayed on your Taurus implying there is a problem with the throttle body, one or more engine sensors (could be the throttle position sensor) or the engine control computer.
Since you are moving from a pickup to a car, you will notice you will actually be able to FEEL something in the handling and braking of the car now. Yet, it should not be a radical change, as Ford trucks are also good driving vehicles. Mostly you will notice newfound agility in your car, vs. a truck. You may or may not like the lower driving position, depending on what you like. I like to sit car height, others like to sit high. I'll admit, in a blizzard, up high is better, but the other 359 days of the year I don't need to sit high.
My wifes Honda get a lot less mpg than the sticker said, but it isn't that big of deal to me if the car runs fine and doesn't have any 'check engine' lights on. As most I'm paying 5 bucks more a month for gas.
Contacted my dealer yeaterday and informed him that rotors were out of round per inspection from Midas. They said they would replace them but it would cost me 28.95 to guarantee them ?. What's with that. the car is under warranty. It's so bad at low speeds ( 40 to 50 mph ) it shakes like an old crack addict!!