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Jeep Liberty Diesel Maintenance and Repair

faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
Some have had EGR problems and oil leaks.
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  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    THIS WAS A DUMB IDEA OF A "NEWBIE"! AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE LIBERTY DIESEL!

    Farout
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,043
    The Liberty CRD deserves a new start. It is now back in the diesel list where it belongs.
  • winter2winter2 Posts: 1,798
    I am not so sure about that. There have been issues with the CRD, EGR valve, leaks, software, so this is not such a bad idea.
  • jrn3jrn3 Posts: 1
    I'm new to this forum ... so be kind.

    Bought a Jeep Liberty CRD Diesel in July 2005. The problem started in January 2006.

    The malfunction indicator light continues to come on. Jeep CRD has been serviced twice in Feb for this problem.

    Jeep has 9500 miles on it.

    Light would come on solid for a few days and then go off. Repeat. Never blinked on and off.

    Serviced Feb 14 - adjusted turbo. Light was off.

    Two days later light back on - then off - then on.

    Serviced Feb 24 - replaced air flow intake sensor part nbr 53013733AB.

    Light off. 100 miles of city and country driving - back on.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this? Your comments will be appreciated.
  • patentguypatentguy Posts: 45
    Take a look at this.

    MIL
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    Hey this is a really good site! Thanks for the tip.

    Farout
  • dunno if you'll read this == kinda old, but I had serious electrical problems of the kind you describe. I can look at my service receipts if still a concern . . . they had to replace a wiring box or something of the sort.
  • I am buying a 2006 Liberty CRD. Discussed the exended warranties with the finance guy.
    Offer $1836.00 for extension to 7yr / 70,000 miles.
    I indicated I might have a problem with that as I bought a Buick Lesabre two years back and paid $1635.00 for extended 5 yr /100,000 mile warranty.
    Their selling point was the diesel extended warranties are higher and that this was a 4 wd vehicle.
    I tend to keep a car for a while but I sure don't want to be sucker punched for paying too much for the extended comprehensive warranty.
    Any body had an experiece getting prices on the Libert CRD extended warranty packages ?
    Thanks
  • bvcrdbvcrd Posts: 196
    If you have GEICO insurance, they have a mechanical break down policy that costs 10 bucks a month, and has a $250 deductible and it covers ALL systems. Might want to check it out. I have it. I figuer I won't miss the $10 a month, and I only have to pay the 250 IF I need it. No gouge up the ars that way. Extended warrantys are good if you need them, but the stealership rakes in the big bucks on them.
  • janey1janey1 Posts: 2
    Own a 2004 Jeep Liberty. Wheel fell off going 15 mph. After researching on internet I found this is a common problem and that 2002 and 2003's have been recalled.

    Spoke to Chrysler about paying for this and they said no because warranty is up. This is a safety issue and many people are having this problem. Thank God I was not on the highway when this happened.

    Chyrsler will no doubt make a recall on the 2004 and someone will be injured in the meantime.

    I urge everyone to have this problem looked at and contact Chysler as well as the U.S. Dept. of Transportation/National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to read about this problem as well as register a complaint if you had a similar problem occur.
    The matter is under investigation by this board and no doubt a recall will occur.

    But at what cost?
  • (I am also new to forums.) Did you ever get this problem fixed? I am currently experiencing an almost identical problem. Jeep has been in dealer's shop 3+ weeks. 2005 Liberty Diesel purchased July 2005, problem started Feb 2006, 6000 miles.
  • bvcrdbvcrd Posts: 196
    At least yours is under warranty. What exactly are they telling you?
  • corndogcorndog Posts: 8
    Am still having problems with our 2006 Jeep Liberty Diesel
    has less than 8,000 miles on it the shudder problem I spoke of before. Where when you are driving between 55 to 65 mph it shudders or cuts out like the transmission is trying to shift plus blower motor burned up. Also the tires are bad the ply must be really thin we have had two tires hit rocks and they have puntured the tire and are unrepairable because it has separated the ply inside. These are goodyears. We already need to replace them. Jeep the heap as we now call it is presently in the shop for the 7th time within 5 months time. :P
  • After replacing the same sensor (sorry, don't know what one) twice, they now say it needs a power-train control module. We're still waiting for it to come in. Time will tell if it fixes the problem...
  • I've got a 2005 Diesel Liberty. Last year the malf. indicator light came on constantly and the car killed on me several times, and it was always difficult to start up after it killed. I later found out that it was the EGR valve and it got stuck in the open position and it was like their was a huge vacuum leak, thus the shudder, engine kill, and difficulty starting. The local dealership changed it out and it helped for a little while. Now I'm having similiar problems - it kills more often now, but the malf. indicator light DOES NOT come on. I brought it to the Service Department the other day and they said it needed a software upgrade. They did that, but it did not solve the problem. Has anyone had an EGR valve need to be replaced twice. It seems like this is a common problem with the diesels. I'm wondering if this problem will continue as long as I own it.
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    corndog: I saw you have not had a response yet, so I will try if it is not too late.
    The tires are a passenger car tire, and a very light duty tire at best. With 300 miles I traded my Wrangler ST on the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor 245 70 16 T tires. These are very excellent tires, They are a solid stable ride with little if any road noise. We live on a rough gravel road and a big hill. We use full time 4x4 every day in and out. We now have 15,150 miles on our CRD. The tires show almost no wear. The exact tire size is an odd one to buy. So you can step up to this tire size and be only off on your speedometer by less than 1mph.
    The shudder is something some people have had and other don't get. I had my cruse control coming out even in a small incline. Also my mpg was always 22 mpg. After at least 5 times to the dealer doing re-flashes and other stuff the dealer replaced the PCM and now we have gotten in the 24 mpg range. We have not gone on a trip so we don't know what the mpg would be on a trip yet.
    You might not know but there will not be a CRD for the Liberty in 2007. We have been a "test market" for Jeep. This is either going to make our CRD values high or drop like a rock in a lake. Hope this might help.
    If you did not get a Chrysler Service Contract I would suggest it might just be a bargain! The 2006 warranty is only 3 years or 36,000 miles, not very good at all.

    Farout
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    italiawolf: May I suggest you look in the Liberty Diesel forum, as ther is more talk about problems there than here. Yes, this is common, infact some have had 3 Egr's replaced.
    I had so many upgrades that my PCM was replaced because it was so messed up. This new PCM increased the MPG from 22 to 24.5 in and arround town. I have 15.150 miles on the CRD. Don't expect STAR to be of much help, your dealers tec will have to be creative in solving some of these issues.

    Farout
  • sabina528sabina528 Posts: 1
    Hey all!

    I just recently bought a 2005 Liberty CRD in February. It was brand new with 3 miles. I now have just at 6,000 miles on it and the "Engine" light keeps coming on over and over again. I really don't like the service department where I bought the dealership and have always liked the service department where I bought my husbands 2006 Rubicon so I took it there.

    On the first attempt to fix the problem, the dealership replaced the EGR valve and something else. I took it home and later that night the light came back on. The next day my husband took it back. They cleared the code and flashed the computer supposedly but two days after that the light came back on.

    I took my Libby back to the dealership on Saturday. I got the run around from the service advisor and told I had to bring the car back during the week because he had no diesel mechanics. It seems unfair that anyone with a gasoline engine can get their car fixed on Saturday, but those of us that have a diesel have to wait for a weekday to get our car fixed!

    We took the car back on Monday and talked to the service manager. In the past he had always been extremely nice to me with my husband’s Jeep, but this time it was very stand-offish and didn’t have any empathy for our problems. We sat in their waiting room for three hours. Finally we went back to the manager to get some news. He went to the tech and came back to use explaining that it would be a “long time” before he was able to get the problem fixed. I was upset and reluctantly he agreed to put us in a rental.

    Two hours after leaving, my husband received a phone call from the manager and he stated that the computer was “flashed” again but they refused to test drive the car because his mechanic found “fleas” in the vehicle. Now, this is completely impossible since I haven’t had my two dogs in the Jeep in over two months. Also, I am very obsessive about my vehicle and I have it detailed weekly by the same shop. Angry as I could ever be at that point I went back to the dealership, returned the rental and left. The manager wanted me to test drive the car for 20 miles but I told him I’d never be back.

    Now the “engine” light is back on again. I took it to the dealership I bought it at, explained the story to them and they were surprised to hear about the “flea” story. They agreed that the previous dealership wanted nothing more to do with us. Needless to say, they found no fleas. They did however keep my car for three days and only began to work on it when my husband sat in the waiting area pestering the service advisor to fix the problem. They again found the faulty code along with a different one that belonged to the speed sensor. They supposedly fixed the problem and test drove it for 40 miles. No light at that time. We were hopeful that it was fixed.

    The day after we got the car home, guess what? The light came back on. It is now back at the dealership again and I’m waiting for a response. Does anyone have any suggestions that could help? The service manager at the second dealership said this is a problem with the Italian diesel and that the new programming should have worked but Jeep is having problems with it. I am at my wits end here and I’m almost ready to drive it through the dealership walls. Please, someone help!
  • caribou1caribou1 Posts: 1,350
    Hi Sabrina,
    It's a cheap excuse from your second dealership to blame VM for everything. VM makes the engine, and it's known to be an excellent piece of equipment.
    All the electronics and the injection system are purchased from Bosch. I would try to find a Bosch diesel shop instead because it's their stuff that produces the warning lights. At least they can tell you if the wiring harness or DC software is doubtful.
    Concerning the fleas, it could very well be the person who found them that had fleas ;)
    I also have a dog that waits for us in the driver's seat. This never produced any malfunction or incident to report and is much safer to leaving an asceptized (just out of the bathtub) child alone in the driver's seat.

    It seems your warning light comes on after leaving the truck cool down overnight after a "fix". Is this correct?
    Which codes can you see on the display?
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,043
    the dealership replaced the EGR valve and something else.

    Welcome to the Forum and happy 4th of July.

    It looks to me like bad fuel. Where do you get your diesel? That engine is a solid diesel engine. It is all the crap that Jeep had to put on it that is causing the problems. It is not just the Liberty CRD. We have all Ford Powerstroke diesels at work. A week does not go by that one or more of them is taken back for engine lights. You never know what the problem is. They reset the computer or replace some stupid sensor and a couple weeks later it is on again. Where our trucks are it is VERY cold in the winter and Ford has known emission related problems in cold weather.

    If you cannot find a source of ULSD fuel, which should be available at BP or ARCO stations, you may continue to have problems. I agree with Caribou that it is not the VM engine causing the problem.
  • caribou1caribou1 Posts: 1,350
    The recurring "engine malfunction light" symptom is now a pandemy affecting all modern low emission diesel systems. I think we cannot compare your CRDs to those built even only 3 years ago. Seen from over here, this is an announced death of small diesel engines if emission standards don't change. This is also a good way to discourage people so they have no regrets when the peak oil production is announced :cry:

    Happy Independance day.
    (maybe next year the word 'oil' will be inserted)
  • goodcrdgoodcrd Posts: 253
    I have a suggestion which may sound stupid to some. Take a shop air nozzle with a two foot extension on it, stick it up your tail pipe so it just reaches your cat converter and blow it out to unclog it or clear the soot restriction that has built up in it. Then start it up and run it hard down the expressway to blow everything you loosened up out of your cat. If it clears your problem or the CRD runs better you know your cat is clogging up due to soot buildup in your cat. This is very common in diesels with Cat converters and particle traps. This is a good reason to be going to ULSD this year. It is a major problem with the newer emission equipment of diesel engines. Your egr and emissions related problems should disappear by Oct to Dec of this year.
  • faroutfarout Posts: 1,609
    goodcrd: Now just how do we get past the muffler to get the air hose to the CAT.? Sounds sorta like a enema rather than a CAT clean out. Now I heard a guy took off his CAT and exhaust pipe up to the engine. Then he put on a PeterBillt tail pipe, and ran it streight out the side. He got 45 mpg when he used 20 gal of PS cetane booster and had a 60 mph wind behind him. Now that's real fuel mileage improvement!

    Farout
  • Hey all! I am new to this so I will try not to be to long winded. I saw the blog and thought some of you might be interested to hear my story. I just got a new 2006 Jeep Liberty after 4 long (to me) months of dealing w/ 2 dealerships and finally Chrysler themselves. I bought a 2005 Liberty Limited, had it for 11 months put 20,000 miles on it and BAM! it went down like a rock in water. After EGR valves, torque converters, a new transmission and 4 months of my car sitting in an empty lot Chrysler decided I had a :lemon: I had some very interesting experiences with all the offers that were brought to the table (by Chrysler) and trying to find me a new car, cause we all know you can't just go down to the nearest lot and find a CRD. Well, now I finally have my new CRD and lets just say I am keeping my fingers, toes and any other thing I can crossed hoping I don't have to go through this experience ever again! I feel for all of you who have issues w/ your CRD's :cry: I don't know much about cars but if I can answer any questions just give me a holler, I will be checking the blog regular. All in all it's just a good thing I love the Liberty Limited CRD and the mileage it gets! Much luck to all my fellow Liberty Lovers :P
  • I'm having the same problem. I have a 2003 Jeep Liberty my ball joint popped off on the highway luckly I did not hit no one and no one hit me but I did slam into the medium. I never reported the accident I had my mechanic fix the problem. A couple of weeks ago I had a weird nose in my car everytime I reversed took it to the mechanic my bottom ball joint is loose now. Went to the dealer where I bought the car they were not helpful at all. My lease is up in November I want to get out of this lease but they want to charge me for the over mileage which I know I have to pay but geesh can they just lower the rate for me from .20 to .10. No compensation whats so ever. I'm very stressed out over this and last night on Channel 2 news they recalled all 2002-2006 Jeep Liberty's again because of the accidents and complaints. Any suggestions....Thanks
  • goodcrdgoodcrd Posts: 253
    My mistake. I'm thinking this cat is part of the "muffler". Some Muffler/cats/soot filters are all in one units for larger diesels. You would have to remove the muffler on this to access the cat. "Farout" fits you just about right.
  • janey1janey1 Posts: 2
    I would file an official complaint online with the Ohio Department of Transporation. They log incidents and investigate. You may also want to contact the Chrlysler headquarters but I got nowhere with them. I'm sure they know there's a problem and are just dragging their feet.

    A friend told me there's been a recall on Jeep Liberty's in the last few days because of a steering issue. I like the car but I no longer feel safe.

    I leased also and am over my mileage so I'm screwed too.

    Let me know if you make any progress.
  • I did contact the Chrysler headquarters but they were no help. I just want to get out of this car ASAP. I will keep you posted. I like the car but just remember when you start hearing a funny noise its a pretty loud one most likely is your balljoint coming loose. It's exactly what happen to me not once but twice. It's a problem you will have forever. You can keep fixing it but eventually they will get worn down and become loose again its exactly what my mechanic explained to me. Thanks for you help.
    Michelle
  • crdfancrdfan Posts: 10
    I am going thru the same thing with Jeep. I have had 4 egr valves and countless other problems. I would like to know what they tried to offer you. I am at the point now I will have to park the CRD and get another car while I am trying to reach a settlement. Its sad since I am a loyal Chrysler customer with 6 purchases of their vehicles over the last 10 years.
  • Hi,
    I've had my Jeep Liberty Sport CRD for over a year now, and ever since I bought it I've heard the whistle of the turbo --I even took it to the dealer once thinking this was a malfunction, lol. Now, after 7000 miles I can't hear that sound anymore, though it seems the turbo is working because the performance of the vehicle seems to be the same as it was when I bought it, but I'm concerned about this issue, because the turbo may not be functioning properly, and this is a very expensive part, so before the warranty expires I'd like to make sure there is no problem with the turbo. I just wanted to ask you Jeep CRD owners,and before I take the car to the dealer, if you've had a similar experience with your vehicle. Does the turbo whistle quiet down as the mileage on your vehicle increases or is it me going deaf?
    I'm happy to report that my only problem with the SUV so far has been a valve that needed to be replaced. I'm very satisfied with my Jeep. Some folks say it is noisy, but to me,the sound of the engine is like mechanical music. Please excuse my English; it is not my mother language.
    Thanks for any help you can provide.
    :confuse:
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