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This is one excellently refined engine. It's ability to sling my 4700lb van to 60mph is astonishing. My other car is a Pontiac Formula with the LS1 350 also an excellent engine. I just wish it was as high tech and well built as my 3.5 ltr. Kudos to Hyundai for this gem of an engine
Sartie - cold air on feet: I also live in NJ, and experienced the a/c coming on while it's below 50 outside - eventhough I set the a/c auto temp to 75.
Also--with the system in Auto, the Defrost Mode (left-most button) came on automatically on startup and then went off by itself after the condensation on the front window cleared. I was so amazed I almost forgot to watch the road!
BTW: My car's still in the shop (three days now). They couldn't figure out what's wrong with the dash and radio lights.
Instructions are a bit ambiguous. Says to push the temp button down. What is the "temp button"? There are two of them. Illustration points to both of them as being the "temp button." So are you supposed to push down BOTH of them for 3 sec while pushing the AMB button, or what?
In any event, no obvious combination of buttons and durations seems to have the desired effect. Best get used to Fahrenheit!
[On another subject: I will join in on the auto temp control debate as soon as the ambient in my garage gets colder. At 58 degrees ambient, which is the coldest it has been thus far this season, with set point at 73 degrees, it just starts up at one blade and stays there forever. Hard to say whether that is or isn't the way it is supposed to work].
However, the big news is the car will be redesigned for 2004. If you don't lease your XG350, you will want to wait for the 2004, because resale will suffer dramatically on the old body style car, assuming the new one is well styled. Unfortunately, Hyundai would not show me what the 2004 will look like. They said the large V8 Equus will not be coming to the US, but a larger SUV and possibly a minivan could be...
As for the 2004 XG, we have seen the mild restyling here and there in these threads. No major change from the current car.
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/comparisontests/2001/december/200112_comparo_concealed.xml
This were the ranking: 1. Honda Accord LX V-6, 2. Toyota Camry SE V-6, 3. Nissan Altima 3.5SE, 4. Hyundai XG350, 5. Dodge Intrepid SE, 6. Chevrolet Impala LS, 7. Ford Taurus SEL, and 8. Buick Regal LS. So I started my car shopping starting from #1, #2 and so on. The Accord, Camry, and Altima were priced at ~$27K; I had to step down to a 4 cylinder to get it around $22K, which is weak, which should be the XG’s competition. As you all know, the XG base is pack is stuff. One of my favorite feature is the shiftronic; I had a chance to really use it last weekend on a trip to Las Vegas were the road is mostly one way and hills from Phoenix. I like to be able to down shift from 70mile/hr and still get plenty of acceleration. As far as reliability, the XG have been around; this car is solve in Korea under the name of ”Grandeur” and it’s the most popular luxury line in the country. One more thing safety, it received an overall Good in the Insurance off set crash test.
Reliability of XG350L remains a concern, but at 10K miles so far so good. A friend of ours also bought one, a couple of weeks ago, so now we have a sample of 2 to track. Will post reports on this board as events occur or mileage milestones are reached.
As for Used Camry/Accord, I don't like the way they look. I think for $22K, the XG is the best buy if your in the market for a mid size family car. But that's only true if it's realiablity will equal the Camry/Accord. I will take my chance for now since they offer a good warranty.
The Hyundai Service here in Tempe, AZ seems to be customer oriented; I been prety happy with them.
to the dealer was for oil changes, and 2 recalls.
What I like is that Delco isin't supplying the
electrical system like my previous Camry.Which had
many problems with the electrical system and
a/c compressor.Why don't Toyota and Honda have
better warrantees?
http://autos.msn.com/vip/usedrelover.aspx?make=Toyota&model=Camry&src=Home
http://autos.msn.com/vip/usedrelover.aspx?make=Honda&model=Accord&src=Home
The XG350 sure offers more std features tho and with the 100,000 mile warranty seems like a good bet.The only problems ive heard of with the car concern the transmission-which is covered by the warranty.The gas mileage seems a little less then my Chevy also.The Buick LeSabre also falls within your price range-a safe bet too.
When all the smoke of haggling had cleared, it became obvious that the white one was going to cost us $1000 more than any of the other three, even though it had 500 miles on it and the others had under 50 miles on their odometers. We still popped for the white pearl.
We think that exterior colors is one area where Hyundai needs to do some serious work. Black would have been a distant second choice for us, but we wouldn't have bought any of the other colors no matter what the price.
with White pearal was black.The pure White came
with the tan interior.
I certainly can't blame you for being a bit perplexed right about now.
I certainly can't blame you for being a bit perplexed right about now.
The service rep that I have been talking to was trying to rip me off saying that A/C belt and alternator belt had cracks and that they needed to replace. He also said that they were not covered by warranty because they are maintenance wear and tear items. At around 27,000 miles, those two belts have cracks? If it is true, Hyundai has another quality issue for me. If not, the dealer was trying hard to collect free money from naive customers. This is kind of service that Hyundai has to have full control of, in my book. Anyway, I have been without car for about a week now.
I wrote a letter to Vice President, Service at Hyundai Motor and wonder what sort of response I would get from him (more likely from someone else from Service related department).
Now I am a complete convert from a strong Hyundai supporter to the very opposite of it. I think I have been very patient for 14 months with like 20 or more different problems, both major and minor on my XG300L. I am afraid that I have yet to learn how to be even more patient with upcoming problems whatever they might be until my XG300L breaks down completely. I bought mine on the off chance that Hyundai has finally gotten quality to live up with. I am sorry to conclude that Hyundai has proven to remain as a off chance on quality, at least to me who once was sold on the XG. Alas!
I tried both and didn't get it to work. With the power on, when you press both buttons simultaneously, the temp indicator will go down and the fan speed goes up. I held both buttons there for more than 10 seconds and nothing happened. With the power off, nothing happens. I even tried it with the engine on.
Thanks
I bought a new 1999 Lexus LS400 and was well aware of all of the hype about their customer being king.
On several occasions, after exhausting the path of trying to work with the dealer to resolve a problem, I called their "Customer Service," and discovered that all they would do was put me on hold, call the dealer, then come back on the line and simply repeat to me what the dealer had already told me - in several instances, only a few minutes prior to my call to Lexus USA.
Needless to say, I found this extremely insulting and of no value whatsoever.
Thus far I have made one attempt to get Hyundai USA to intercede on my behalf with a dealer, and I got the "have no control over their dealers" runaround. When I pointed out that they DO have the power to renew or not renew the dealer's franchise, they said that yes, that is true, and if I would care to send them a letter it would be put in the file for consideration the next time the franchise came up for renewal (in a couple of years, I gathered).
Since that particular dealer moves more Hyundai product than just about any other dealer in the country, you can imagine just how eager they would be to yank the franchise.
This was a fraud allegation in the selling process; Hyundai suggested I contact the appropriate Better Business Bureau. Thanks loads.
I was shopping for a car the same time they were and ended up buying a Japanese made Camry. I haven't had a problem with it. None. The more I drove the xg the more it told on itself. The interior smell, the cheap interior parts, the potential for great loss on resale.
I used to hear alot of people taking about how great the warranty is. But I don't hear that anymore. I'm glad I didn't make that mistake.
Yesterday the Hyundai customer service rep called me to inform that the dealer was still waiting for one gasket while the rest came in.
Does anyone have any brilliant idea of what I need to do? Again I wonder how special those gaskets are. Probably Hyundai special. I will look into the lemon law once again if I am eligible. I reported to Better Business Bureau and California State Consumer Protection Committee, Auto Repair division. I wonder what they can do though.
I do need to ask you to withhold that sort of political comment/slur -- this is not the place.
Thanks!
For those who have had quite a few problems as I have, here is a web site of Better Business Bureau to file a complaint against car manufacturer. This is not local Bureau but national office which handles complaints against car manufacturer. I already filed one. Hope this helps us and Hyundai to improve quality and customer service too.
http://165.235.17.9/StdPage.asp?Body=/GenInfo/Publications/New_Vehicle_Warranty_Repairs-Jun_1998.htm&LB=NO
I have decided not to purchase the Hyundai XG350 although it is no doubt the most car that can be had for the money. But...after purchase, who needs all that hassle? Seems like this is a Yugo made in Korea.
In passing, I remember some owners including myself in the past complained about weird cruise control. I noticed that the Elantra does not do the same strange thing on its cruise control. It seems to work as I expect. In summary, cruise control on XG works like,
1. when accelerating with accelerate switch, rpm goes way over 3000 from 2200 or 2300 all of a sudden. It stays at over 3000 about a minute or so, it goes back down to its normal rpm.
2. when resuming cruise, the same rpm hiccup happens.
3. when you release gas after you speed up over set speed, the same rpm hiccup happens when the speed reaches the set speed.
Any of these did not happen with the Elantra. Actually, cruise control on the Elantra works as any other cars that I have driven except the XG. Hyundai designed cruise control on XG this way, I don't know.