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If you're only going to compare the actual dollar numbers, I could compare my motorcycle to your Sonata. If I paid $10,000 for it and sell it for $5,000 after 3 years, I'll do better than your comparison.
Or my bike. I can do the same simple elementary math on it too. My numbers are a lot less than your Sonata comparison. Man. You're getting ripped off. You're so naive.
Actually you could be walking and save all that money on a vehicle. What are you thinking ???????
I have a feeling that you would be disappointed on that one. Unless it has very low mileage or is fully loaded (in which case I suspect that it would have been more than $30k to start with) your not going to get that much. Kelly Blue book has them at around 16-17K for trade in.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
What remarkable insight coming from someone on his third new car acquisition within four months...
Yes there will be. According to rumors there will be a dark interior offered and tweaks to the current interior trims as well. There is some noise about the LX interior being dressed up nicer. We should see '07 in August or late September '06.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Looking at an old bodystyle makes the resale value look worse than it is (2003 -old bodystyle). Also with Hondas, Toyotas, Acuras, and Lexus one can sometimes get the dealer retail price if it is in good shape- even sold privately. I would never pay that much, but people do all the time. I sold my 2003 Honda Accord at just above private party value, and it sold in 24 hours. If I had more time I would have probably gotten near dealer retail.
FYI i average about 27 MPG highway, and ITS A STICK 5 SPEED!! WTF :mad:
Sincerely,
T-Rav
No unfortunately Hyundai keeps changes close to the vest but that doesn't mean there aren't leaks. From what I understand they are making some interior changes (tweaks) based on the feedback from U.S. Owners.
When you make close to 90K per year like I do, your math will tell you to upgrade so. My math works fine here same as my comfortable back. Please worry about your own math problem there.
Another thing is the vapor from the exhaust looks heavier than my old car. Is It normal for new car or V6?
I doubt you will get what you say you will.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Your infantile boasting is irrelevant since I really don't give a flyin' fig what your annual income is, nor do I believe is anyone else on this forum either. YOU were the responder who arrogantly told other posters they couldn't do "simple elementary math". I'm not at all worried about my own math. I consider quality a better indicator of intelligent choice than quantity.
We tried playing musical car seats and no matter how we did it, the 3rd seat would never fit properly. The problem stems from the SIDES of the back seat and how they protrude forward to contour to a body. This protrusion does not allow the 3rd seat to sit flat against the back. If we only had 2 car seats it wouldn't be a problem, but having the 3rd car seat in the middle forces the last seat to be off center from where a person would normally sit.
I have a few pictures of the setup we tried, but don't think I can post them to this forum.
Why even bother with the GL? The LX isn't that much more $.
Only $5,000... peanuts!
You are right! You not paying for my new Sonata, so please worry about yourself.
According to the report this is the first time that the Hyundai Sonata has made this list. These sales figures confirm that the newly re-designed Sonata is resonating with prospective shoppers and converting them to buyers. Note the percentage increase year over year compared to the previous year.
Source: http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/archives/2005/12/best_selling_ca_2.htm
> did it, the 3rd seat would never fit properly. The problem
> stems from the SIDES of the back seat and how they
> protrude forward to contour to a body. This protrusion
> does not allow the 3rd seat to sit flat against the back.
Actually, that curve-around of the sides of the rear seats does NOT follow 'the contour of a body'! You are too kind to Hyundai! I write about this in my "Hyundai Sit-In", if I ever get around to posting it [got it in rough draft]. I spent some time at a dealership just SITTING inside various models, per the recommendation of someone on this forum. I didn't want to actually go on the test drive without my friend, and I was pressed for time on my way over to her place anyway, so I just sat in them, but I was there awhile.
That curve in the rear seats is definitely the most obnoxious thing about them. It actually prevents your torso from facing directly forwards. It twists your body: your legs and hips are straight, but your torso is twisted towards the center. I found this effect is more pronounced in the cloth seats; I have no idea why, since they are technically the same shape/design/padding. It made me angry to see such a counterproductive "feature" added to such a pragmatic, intelligent car for no reason.
The rear seats could be quite comfortable if it weren't for that weird "torso twist". Don't they realize the human body is flat, not shaped like an asymmetrical bowl?
I knew that the 'curve' in back would really bother me if I were going to buy the car new or do a long ride in back, but seeing how disruptive that silly seatback curve is with the child seats really brings it into focus. Even cheap car models know to keep the seatbacks straight in back. It's not "luxury" to have your torso twisted so the rear seats be supposedly more appealing to the eye. That's fake luxury. (True luxury has nothing to prove.) This was the kind of stuff which should've been avoided considering Hyundai replaced its 'career' management with real engineers.
Thanks for that great 1st-hand experience/experiment, bdc2020.
hai
i own sonata lx for 2 and a 1/2 months, with only 1200 miles.
i put 1000 miles in 2 weeks and then it is literally sitting in the garage to be traded up to azera. more i lernt about azera more i "WANTED" it.
i was thinking that i should be able to trade sonata, loosing only couple of hundred dollars and it's warranty to be transfered to the new owner.
now after reading discussion of "where to start" from "bdc 2020", i am wondering about that. any suggestions?.also will the new owner get incentives?
in the other forum "kwonc71" in "trade up again", changed 2 sonatas in 6 months. did you loose a lot when you traded from GL to GLS and from GLS to LX. what about warranty and incentives on these.
i am posting in both forums for larger response and not to be redundant
thanks for your responses.
Depreciation from what point?
Price before rebates?
Which rebates, if they count rebates in discounting depreciation?
Let's say I bought a GLS for $19,000 - Before rebates -; and was entitled to a 3*1,000 rebates.
How is the depreciation calculated? From what price $19,000 or $16,000?
You will find that folks interested in any give vehicle follow all the discussions about that vehicle. So it is not necessary to post more than once; you will reach the same people no matter which one you choose.
Thanks - and good luck.
Steve
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Your comment about the rear seats caused me to test-sit the Sonata again while I was at my Hyundai dealer today. It was an LX on the showfloor. I have not noticed this "twist" before, in 4-5 test-sits in various Sonatas (cloth and leather), and I did not notice it today. I did notice that I was sitting in the "flat" part of the back seat, and my back did not touch the side bolster, which does stick out. I wonder if this "twist" affects people differently depending on their height, girth etc. I am 5'10" and 170 pounds.
I also check-tested the front seat (power) again because of all the comments about discomfort. I noticed I had to set the seat bottom so that the front edge was as high as it would go and the back edge as low as it would go before it was to my liking. So I could see how some people would like it to come up a little more in front. And this was actually better than with the manual seat, where the front edge doesn't tilt up as much. That is a problem with almost every car I've tested that has only a single height-adjustment lever.
I second that!
Actually the interior design /color does not look that appealing to me! It looks out of place!
Actually, I could go for just strictly information about the car I'm interested in and some cool pictures and I'd be happy as a Ray Allen jumper in regards to magazine articles about my new car. Know what I mean?
Auto writers are carrying a strong bias usually towards their pets. I don't know about you guys but I think Hyundai has done a great job on the 2006 Hyundai Sonata. For the price you're paying you are getting more car than you're paying for. It's styled nicely (which you can't even start to say about the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry). It also carries an unbeatable Long-Haul Warranty.
So far the complaints are petty and fairly few on this new sedan, too.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
So far the current sales numbers for the '06 Sonata tells me that real people are buying the new Hyundai Sonata in large numbers and auto journalist with pre-conceived bias are being ignored.
This is so ironic as I recall this very mag gushed oh so embarrassingly about how the Ford Contour, when it was first launched, was viewed as the car that would help Ford compete against the Japanese juggernaut and we all know what happened to the Ford Contour!
Not everyone out there loves the Sonata. As a longtime CamCord owner who recently sampled this car I admit the car has a lot going for it. But it also isn't salvation on wheels.
Its going to take a while and some more refinement for the Sonata to get the universal nods that CamCords get.
leadfoot criticism of the car is not what is negative. What's negative is when a writer begins a comment by stating outright that he does not like a particular brand regardless of what they make. Imagine if an auto journalist began his opening comments by saying how much he hated Toyotas or Hondas and liked nothing that they made? How fair or objective would you expect that writer to be?
I think we can agree that Hyundai Sonata has room for improvement but so do a lot of cars. Thats why they are frequently tweaked throughout each model year.
winter. I have one in my CRV and Sonata. Drivers seat
only.