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FWIW, per the brochure, the car is limited to 130 mph (typical for cars with "H" rated tires).
Best regards,
Shipo
I have a 2008 4.2 V8 350 hp. Just took a trip to the beach 180 miles. Cruise set on 75 and I was getting over 27 MPG. The factory ratings with the new EPA is only 23 on my car. For a car that's big and heavy, I was really surprised my 4.2 A6 mileage was that good on the highway. The FSI direct injection really helps.
I just drove the new 09 A4 with the upgraded 2.0T, and it's quite an awesome motor. The torque is incredible at lower RPM's. It feels like a V6 under the hood.
Gone is the old noisy 2.0 from 05.5 to 08. Balance shafts control the noise and the new 09 model is incredibly quiet compared to the old one.
As for the interior, the new MMI in the A4 is a step up, IMO from the old one.
The car goes on sale in September, right?
I have a couple of question is anyone can advise me.
First--I am having a difficult time deciding between the sedan and Avant. I currently have an SUV and the idea of the cargo room is very appealing. However, I don't want to ruin the sportiness (or the perception) of the car. Any comments to help me decide?
Second--I have never ordered a car before. And this is pretty crazy since I can't test drive it. (I live in the Denver area). But, I need a new car by Dec. 31. Any advice for this?
I do have a deal breaker. My husband is 6'4" and has a long torso, so, we have to make sure he can fit in the car comfortably.
Going to the dealer tomorrow.
3.2 FSI Quatro -Premium Plus $40,000 Prestige-$43,300
2.0t Avant Quatro -Premium $34,500 Premium Plus-$38,500 Prestige-$41,800
Add $825- to all prices for Destination Charges
I don't have the individual Option prices
willbuyan09
The Avant ONLY comes in 2.0 4-cylinder form. It you're okay with that, everything else is the same as the sedan in options.
A dealer told me it will take 3 months when ordering a car, but with supply issues it may take longer if you want the S-Line package -- which is very nice if you can wait for it.
I have been checking out cars for 8 months and decided on this car. I really thought he would fit because he fits in the G. I am soooooo frustrated.
He fits in the A5 (not practical for the family or work) and the A6. I may look closer at the A6, but, it has the same features at the A4 for more money and less fuel economy.
Back to the drawing board.
Just want to make sure I'm not batty and I'm missing it, even though it might be painfully obvious. Assuming this holds up (no manual, which I sincerely doubt), any one else find this to be a deal breaker, or am I one of the few that still believes in three pedals?
Best Regards,
Shipo
The manual A4 will not be available until 2009 (according to Audi literature). Now that might mean January or it might be December (but then that would be a 2010 model). So my guess is that the manual will not be out until perhaps spring '09.
But what's got my shorts in knots is that there will not be a manual Avant. Those dogs! Nothing like paying extra for something that (slightly) slows the car down, hits the mpg, and decreases driver involvement.
Now the fact the manual isn't coming in the Avant does chap my . . . . well, you know. Not that I'm old enough for a station wagon (although I'm getting close to that age).
I know we discussed the manual situation ad nauseum, but it does irk me that that manuals aren't released right away. Grrrrr!!
Just ordered a 09 Audi A4 2.0 sedan white exterior with black interior, prestige with navigation. Paid 43k including destination charge for the car, another 4k in state taxes, new plates, dealer prep, etc... Dealer had a base 09 A4 with no led daytime running lights. When I sat in rear seats, there was more room than the Mercedes c350 I sat in a week before.
I live in long Island, the dealer said he should have the car between September 8-15. I can't wait until then!!!"
Anyone else think the price for 2.0T with the prestige package is a little high ($40K listed on Audi's website)? I know it's loaded to the hilt, but you can get a base 335i for $39 / $40K (assuming you just want the base model and want the performance, which most people don't do).
Anyway, just my 2 1/2 cents.
I've been calling dealerships in DC, Atlanta, Charlotte, etc to try to find some dealer who knows something about the release of the manual in the sedan outside of 1Q09. Based on my conversations, it sounds like those on this board know more than the dealers. I hate waiting . . . .
This is my first time purchasing a car so I want to make sure nothing goes wrong. Anything else I should look out for when purchasing cars? I read through several websites on things to take note of but I am not sure if I missed out any important points to take note when buying a new car. It seems to me that dealers are taking this chance to mark up the price for this new model since its rather popular. Guess its difficult to negotiate below MSRP!
And I have problems deciding between either a black or white exterior, any opinions? Thank you guys!
S line is differnet for 09. Last years S line was just more of a cosmetic treatment and larger wheels/sport suspension. The new 09 A4 has true recaro style sport seats, and 19 inch wheels as well. All the seats were the same in the 08 model regardless if it was S line or not.
The new 09 A4 is not even on sale yet, so there could be some changes to the order guide as Audi finds out what people do and don't like.
75% of sales will probably be premium and premium plus models. There's a lot fo equiptment in the premium plus model, and it's priced right @ under 37k.
You can't get an AWD MB or BMW with xenons, dual memory & power seats, bluetooth, sat radio, ipod for 36k. Audi's new 2.0 Turbo is a better motor than either BMW's or MB base V6's.
Audi has to make up money somewhere, and it's on the higher end options.
For me, the S line is about the aggressive exterior styling, the wheels are hot, and I love Audi's sport suspension. But again, my beef is that in order to get the S Line, you have to get the prestige. And that's what sky rockets the cost to $43K, which doesn't even include navigation (not that I want that).
So to your point, they may make some order guide changes as sales pick up on the 09s. I just wish they could be more definitive on when the manual transmission become available, and offer more flexibility with their option pairing. Am I asking for too much?
In terms of your question, I would do a comparison on what comes on the Premium Plus vs the Prestige and make your decision that way. The prestige comes with Advance Key, upgraded audio package, park assist, side assist, whereas the Premium Plus does not. So if those things aren't important to you, and you want Navigation, save yourself some money and go with the premium plus. It really comes down to personal choice.
As far as other things to look for in a car, I would check road noise, braking, acceleration, handling, feel of the materials, location of cup holders . . . but again, I'm uber picky and meticulous with my car purchase. Others on this board look for other things when they drive it. So it really boils down to how the car feels for you.
Finally, car color . . . honestly, I'm going to go white with mine because based on the pictures online, the white really pronounces the car's lines and gives it a meaty look (especially with the S Line wheels). Black is also hot too, but in pollen season, a bare to clean. Again, comes down to personal choice.
You previously mentioned you ordered one with navigation and prestige package all at 43k. Does that mean it includes the S-Line package? If you ordered with a prestige with navigation and S-Line package for 43k I think its a very very good deal.
I read Audi was having supply problems with S-line components.
It's worth the wait -- if you can wait :-(
Probably a 10-12 week delay in ordering cars with S line 19 inch rims.
Perhaps AUDI USA cannot sell enough manual A4 Avants to warrant the expense of importing them? Subaru killed off their manual trans Forester Turbo for that same reason.
Also debating whether to hold out for the S-Line or just going with Prestige and a Sport package and getting my order in.
Thanks for any thoughts...Audi doesn't make this easy.
Speaking of manual, the dealership just informed me the A4 won't be releasing the car in a manual transmission until the 2010 model. Anyone else hear that? If so, this is pretty much a deal breaker and am going in a different direction since my lease is up in February 2009. Has anyone else heard this discouraging news?
Question for all -- with the sports package and Audi drive select options, can you only have one or the other, but not both? Seems to me you can't have both. On Audi's site you can't configure a car with sports package (I think a web page error). Any insights? Problem is you can't get paddle shifters with the Audi drive select option, which is what I would lilke.
I am gettting the vibe from the sales team at Audi that there wont be much negotiating on the 09.
Premium Plus with the wood trim. Paid $37,400 (including destination, but not taxes, title.) This also included $500 off from Audi for attending the Audi A4 Driving Experience at Summit Point ( Very fun and free event that ended up saving me $500)
I live in a one dealer area in Virginia and I didn't feel that there was much negotiating yet. They seem to be selling these A4's before they even arrive in the US.
Tested the 3.2 at Summit Point and a 2.0 demo at the dealer. The 2.0 feels just as quick with all of the low end torque. Just my two cents. Instead of paying for the bigger engine ... spend that money on adding options.
I'd personally skip the 3.2 and spend the money on extra options for the 2.0T as others have mentioned.
There's a huge difference between the 08 2.0T and the 09 2.0T. The new 2.0 is a heck of a lot quieter, smoother, and much more refined than the last generation 05.5 - 08 models. It's a pretty fast car, and the torque curve with 258 lb ft under 2000 rpm is all you need.
The only thing I don't like is that the 2.0T has a greyish grille and not black. My dealer said he could send me to a guy who does their body work and for a $100-$200 I could get it painted piano black (sweet!)
I was surprised that I was able to negotiate a good price on the Audi given it's newness, redesign and demand. My dealer agreed to $1000 over invoice (I'll still be paying the stupid $200 advertising fee though) which comes out to be ~$41,700 (not including wheels). However, it's worth noting the difference between invoice and MSRP is only $2600, hey, but I'm not going to complain about a $1600 savings on a 2009 A4! In fact, they agreed to it so quickly I wish I had offered only $500 over invoice. Another Audi dealer who was suppose to be a "friend of the family" only offered me $999 off the MSRP. I guess what this means is that they can sell you these vehicles for under MSRP.
I agree, the 09 models will be more difficult to negotiate on because they are new models. I think you can still get 3% over invoice, maybe slightly less. Give it a try and see what happens.
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Exactly. I would probably have just gone ahead and ordered an Avant with a stick. But I'm on the fence for an AT Avant.
Just drove the A4 with the auto and, while the auto wasn't too bad, I have little interest in paying for one. It's additional $ for a small hit on performance and mileage. Phooey!
Also noticed that the sliver instrument surround doesn't work too well with the wood trim. The car seems better sans wood.
Final note was that the standard suspension was floaty and not at all to my liking. The car needs the sports suspension (or the fancy electromechanical suspension) for sure.