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Steve
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Is this a good deal? We feel a little un-comfortable on that $100 deductable. Any comments or suggestion is appreciated.
J.C.
This is truly a 6 of one, half doz of another question. I have a 87 TLC with 245k miles and have app 2k worth of "unscheduled" maintenance.
The problem is that the 87 is a different animal.
On the other hand I have app 90k on a 94 TLC with NO unscheduled maintenance. I also have indications that nothing is pressing.
Even the battery on the 87TLC went 10 yrs.
On a 91 TLC the original batt is still in use.
So if you think the truck has been ridden hard and put away wet, then do it. If it appears to have reasonable care, the money might be more reasonably spent in the next repair which most likely be a starter, alternator, or some AC recharging. Don't forget that the 1500 bucks will cost 100 bucks (x3) or 1800. See how much those POTENTIAL repairs might cost and compare. Another thing which may not mean anything to you but the 94TLC has the Toyota's BUS transmission.
So in the case of the 87 TLC I have spent 200 bucks more.
J.C.
Steve
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As a former Windstar owner, it is fairly obvious why peace of mind was important to me. see "Vans: Windstar problems" in the town hall
I recommend you do what I did, read all the messages to include those archived refering to the LC's. With the exception of a few Land Rover owners posing as disgruntled LC owners I think you will be impressed with what you find, there seemed to be no recurrent problems.
My final thought is that if the warranty company didn't think they were going to make money off you, they wouldn't offer it.
HiC
Axle seals are a maintenance item as it's a fulltime 4wd rig. It is expensive if you pay someone to do it, but it's not a difficult repair. A few basic tools, grease, and shop towels (and a Haynes manual), and you can save about $1000.
If you are not interested in working on your rig, it might be worth your while for a warranty.
Anyway, I'm now considering purchasing a new 2001 Land cruiser. I test drove it. Although I hate my JGC, I love it's power. The LC does not seem to offer that initial boost of power. The reliability seems to be "bullet proof" according to consumer report and all other town hall folks. So are everybody happy with the new LC's power?. Are there really going to be an upgrade of engines for the new 2002? I can't find any info. in re: 2002 upgrades?
Thank to all for very helpful information.
No ticks, no slaps.
Also, I checked Alldata. No TSB's for 1998-2000 for ANY engine complaints.
I think this may be a BS troll story.
HiC
Steve
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While very polite (lots of smiles and hand shaking)the Toyota rep admitted upon questioning that he wasn't a mechanic, wasn't a technical expert of any kind, and knew virtually nothing about the throddle assembly of any vehicle, let alone a Land Cruiser. However, he did suggest that if I wanted to spend a $100K for a top line Mercedes, I could probably get one without a gas pedal vibration.
I gave him a stack of messages from this board (all pertaining to gas pedal and H/L shifter vibration)and asked him to show them to someone who cared--hopefully at Toyota :-)
Bottom line. Guess I'll just have to live with the tickle in my right foot. Thank goodness it goes away when the vehicle hits 40 mph. After a dozen calls, two inspections, and a surpurb line of BS from Toyota, I'm throwing in the towel. But don't get me wrong folks, I still love my LC.
Thanks.
I hate like heck not being able to see any potential problems developing. I know most car manufacturers cover their engines but I am clueless as to the reasons.
To: Jtt4 - I think JBL is replacing the defective units. Check with you Toyota Dealer, they should have a technical bulletin by now. Also check this forums archives. This was a big topic about 2-3 weeks ago. Congrats on the 2001 TLC btw!
I went over to the 'pre-owned' department to discuss with my salesman - who was out. He called me later and suggested I bring it back to service department and see what could be done under the warranty and said their department would cover whatever the warranty wouldn't.
Before going back, I have several questions:
Any clues as to what these are and why someone would have had them on a leased vehicle?
Should their presence have been detected, and disclosed, as a result of Toyo's "certification"? If yes, what's the recourse?
Do dealers have a service history database? Can I see what they have on this vehicle?
If these sensors indicate some heavy duty, or mis-use of the vehicle - like regular towing of some extra heavy load, or supercharging, would the engine life probably be shortened?
If yes, should I ask for my money back? HA!
I've owned 3 Toyotas - 4Runner, Van, Pickup - and gotten 260,000, 180,000, and 300,000 miles, respectively, of mostly trouble-free miles before selling them - in good condition! I anticipated keeping the Land Cruiser ten years and getting similar mileage.
I'm just trying to understand what went on in order to properly evaluate what should be done. I know, I know. These are the questions I should have asked on the front end. The "Toyota Certified" really brought my guard down.
What would y'all do?????
could anyone tell me if removing the heat shield would cause any problems?
Thanks in advance.
The other thing to consider is pricing. If a dealership is willing to order out of Japan, you are asking them to tie up their allocation for 3 to 6 months. Your salesman may not even work there when it arrives so he looses his commission. They run the risk that you will back out and they will have a nearly unsellable unit on the lot. To compensate for these costs and risks, they will generally ask for a higher profit than a more typical unit. You may find that you can get nearly the same price for one with a third seat at a motivated dealership.
This isn't about catering to the customer's needs. This is all about taking a risk. A HUGE one. I sure hope you locate someone who doesn't mind the risk, because I like my job, and I don't want to risk it, or risk the very gracious ability I have here to build order cars in many other ways for others -- cars that are far better risk/option to build, which are 99% of my orders. You have to absolutely understand that, as it's business and nothing personal. Financially, the lease banks will deduct 5% of MSRP value if a LC doesn't have a third rear seat/rear air, meaning if you do not take it, 80% of the buyers out there will have to pay MORE for less car.
Not meaning to offend, but to instead explain why. An unusual built Highlander, no problem... an unusual Sequoia, I build them all the time, LOL! They go rapidly anyway. Camrys, Ravs... they are all going to go sooner or later. Landcruiser owners/buyers are different.
My advice is to nab a normal new car special...... save the seats for a rainly day or a saving grace for the resale value.
Dianne
The seats are very easy to remove and with the 98+ LC's there is nothing left in the cargo area except the seat belts which are easy to keep out of the way. I simply put the seats in plastic and store them until it is time to sell the vehicle.
Whatever you get, make sure it is a swing-away type that allows you to open the rear drop gate when in use. OSI makes one and I am sure there are others. http://www.performanceproducts.com sells them.
A word of caution though: high speed driving on dirt or gravel roads with anything in the hitch will cause rocks to ricochet off the rack(or whatever else you're trailing) back into the rear of the car. Some costly paint work may be in your future.
HiC
They have a large selection from a variety of vendors. I am using the Yakima TerraFirma 4 Bike Hitch and have been very pleased with it.
Jester42
I am aiming at buying a '01 Toyata Tundra V-8 which is the same engine you TLC owners have been living with.
I have perused your postings hoping to get some feel for the subject engine's "ease to live with" points over several years of operations.
Are you swearing by it or at it???
Haven't seen hardly any comments about that V-8 engine. Does no postings mean no problems???
Any feedback about that powerplant (good or bad) would be appreciated.
Thanks, Ed
Once went 75 miles after the warning light came on (all freeway). took 24.5 gallons at the pump that time. That's as far as I dare to go. Translated to just about 5 gallons in reserve when the light first went on.
macsfriended: I have a 98 that I purchased within two months of the V-8 being introduced. Engine has been flawless. More power than I expected, better climbing (laden or unladen), never burned any oil (5 qts of synthetic goes in and 4000 miles later 5 qts of syntethic drain out) and has never had the slightest hiccup in temps ranging from 115 degree Mojave desert heat to -20 degree Wyoming winters.
I've also been on this board from almost the beginning and cannot recall any engine specific complaints. Wind noise, lousy stereo, vibrating gas pedal, rattles here & there and two front diffs failing have been about it.
HiC
I am surprised you are still driven it. TLC Holds 7.2 QTS of oil.. : )
MG
HiC