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So for example, TDI CUV/SUVs emit the same N0x as like models / competitor.s GASSERS.
Folks should keep in mind only three that were tested, starting all the brouhaha after EPA/CARB were prodded with those unofficial outside results. In US markets, two failed. So, kill all (475,000) of them? There is no policy or program to verify ANY representative sample to all of the buybacks for emissions NON compliance! It's the foot prints of cover up! If they tested three of them ,say gasser PU trucks and two failed with the system trying to kill all of them, you could not get away with it ! One year sales of F150 were 2015 780,000 + plus.
As I have been saying, 2009 Jetta TDI (mine ) passed EPA/CARB biannual smog tests every time (4 each 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016) with flying colors ! Next due is 2018 and I know it will pass with flying colors, ...then. The 2009 Jetta will be 10 years in compliance (mine- app 145,000 miles by then)
Owners opting to keep their TDIs will not be required (by federal law) to get any to all to be approved emissions corrections. This snit/brouhaha has always been between EPA/CARB & VW, NOT the owners.
Right now, it is looking beyond 2019. EPA/CARB seems to be the major approval road block. Logistics after that would be another road block, I would guess. Keep in mind it's been over more than a year that EPA/CARB has "known". Compliance & approval should be quite straight forward & timely. It obviously is not!
The Washington Post VW " diesel- gate" 1 year highlights? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/a-look-at-volkswagens-1-year-old-emissions-scandal/2016/09/21/ab954d7c-800a-11e6-ad0e-ab0d12c779b1_story.html?ref=yfp
I read on a MB forum that our favorite wolf-crying German eco-weenie club DUH recently said that the new E220d is something like the cleanest diesel they have tested. Whether this is true or paid for remains to be seen.
Manufacturing a mid-sized EV with an 84-mile range results in about 15 percent more emissions than manufacturing an equivalent gasoline vehicle. For larger, longer-range EVs that travel more than 250 miles per charge, the manufacturing emissions can be as much as 68 percent higher.
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/electric-vehicles/life-cycle-ev-emissions#.V-NSs_ArKhc
I don't have a link, but I read an article saying that the upcoming diesel will be the cleanest MB d to hit the market.
Sadly, the last E wagon sold here was available in one configuration only (aside from AMG) - V6 gasoline 4Matic, nothing else. We haven't had a C wagon in over a decade now. I'll have to believe a diesel one of either sold here when I see it - I think the CUVs have much higher profit margins, and that's what counts.
Station (sappy) wagons have been, are, remain total non starters in US markets. MB (or other oems) is not about to lose money selling (sappy) station wagons in US markets, when it can sell & profit boat loads where it is popular (EU).
My father, almost a generation ago got a DISCOUNT on a new station wagon!? It had a detuned Supra engine & was one of few 6 cylinder normally aspirated engines that ran like stink & upgrade to 7388 ft to boot? ( my SOS/DD trek) But if I need to state the obvious: it was a station wagon. It was subtle, well, I'll stop there.
It seems people make negative comments on cars they haven't even test driven 90% of the time. VW has some really good cars. The Passat didn't do much for me though. I like the new MQB platform.
Well there was/were a time/s they bought the SW "land yachts" with some volume. I remember a relatives 9 passenger job,.... moons ago. It had the strap Gram to the roof option also. I remember the Chevrolet Nomad. I didn't like it when I was 10 years old.
VW has almost always had the SW model. They have ALWAYS been a small % minority subset. This is a bit confounding. The resale has always been high better than the other models.
As you know, the station wagon models were normally like 85% TDI before the diesel-gate brouhaha.
I just had a conversation with the the friend that bought the used Mercedes Benz 3.0L Blue Tec CUV/SUV. (SW like) he was getting 20 22 mpg in an Acura MDX. He's more than a happy camper, even after over a year with it. The torque difference is just incredible!
Liar liar pants on fire ? What, ...no US market outrage ?
Funny no mention of tested torque!?
The imitation bullbar/brush guard design on the front bumper, the plastic cladding on the wheelarches - it's a little too Subaru (nothing against Subaru) for me, and I am in an area where those (and dopey CUVs) are an accessory for witless suburban drones who likely will never even see a gravel road not to mention deep snow or actual off road conditions, but like to prance around as if they are the second coming of Grizzly Adams.
I think you miss the most important reason the Boomers are buying SUVs over sedans. Not to go off road or use in deep snow. It is for easy ingress and egress. I hate getting into a sedan that is low slung. Hurts my back getting in and out. That is why Honda sells more CR-Vs than Accords or Civics. Toyota is setting sales records with RAV4, Highlander and 4Runner. Sadly none of them are offered in diesel in the USA.
In a Switch for Paris Show, Automakers Turn From Diesel (NY Times)
Can I sell you a pound of gold that only weighs 5/7 of a lb?
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
CHICAGO -- The 2018 Chevrolet Equinox will be shorter and lighter than the model it replaces and will be the first compact crossover offered in the U.S. with a diesel engine, General Motors said late Thursday.
The redesigned Equinox will be 400 pounds lighter than the outgoing model, which is GM’s second most popular U.S. vehicle. It will also be 4 inches shorter while adding 3.5 cubic feet of interior space when it reaches North American dealerships in the first quarter of next year.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160922/OEM04/160929920/chevy-will-equip-next-equinox-with-diesel-engine-in-global-push
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/09/all-new-2018-chevrolet-equinox-gets-16l.html
I like the flat space in back. Who knows I may really like it.
The ~2 liter MB engines seem to be the perfect mix of power and efficiency.
This got my attention also. If it is set up to download Google maps.
availability of 7- and 8-inch MyLink infotainment systems supporting both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.
Links to smartphones for ICE are finally going to become mainstream. OEM nav systems have been a profit center for a long time, but they can probably make the same amount by selling everyone phone links rather than 20% of people nav.
And yeah, it is col to see others joining in even after the VW insanity.
Most folks won't know or care, the current VW Touareg TDI gen at app 4900 #'s dropped about 400 #'s (from app 5,300 #'s). Increased mpg, better handling, less component wear, better overall dynamics were some benefits.
On the 2.1 L TT, the last tankful/ fill (14 gal) posted 36 mpg (506 miles).
Until Tesla can make something with a 500 mile range and not be helped along with some of the dopiest tax breaks in the land, I won't be thinking about one. (OK, I want better styling and charging options too)/
VW I've read has app 650 dealerships.
So underfoot. a shift to larger Cadillac dealerships.
That said I don't see Cadillac ever regaining long past glory.
The car passes smog by simply plugging into the computer port, not by running any pollution tests. If they change their test to check for a "fix" signature in the car software, it will then fail smog. I don't know they would do that, but I don't put anything past CARB. They could also require something when you register the car the next year, some kind of certificate (or even sent directly to CARB) indicating the "fix" has been done.
Some states don't care, of course, but California does. I would not plan on simply continuing to drive my Passat without getting it fixed. We are still planning on turning it in, despite how much we like it.
BTW, got a recall notice today, something about a connector under the car that could catch fire. Mine was in the shop at the time, so they fixed it.
The above article indicates two reasons why they might be trying to kill diesel: fear of soft gasoline prices ($1.99 & less! ) & soft PVF markets from ( leftover but new) 2015 to 2018.
Another waste? RUG vs PUG. http://finance.yahoo.com/video/whats-difference-between-regular-premium-145551922.html
But app 16% of gas cars require to recommend PUG.
My guess will be 2019 @ the earliest, due to lack of EPA/CARB approvals, legal issues, additional lawsuits, i.e., constitutiona, environmental, etc., huge testing protocols, huge logistics, etc. 2019 might be extremely optimistic. i'm interested to see how the other "class action" lawsuits settle.
My very next EPA/CARB biannual smog inspection, after the 2018's will be 2020. It will be interesting to see what happens when the shoe is on the other foot.
VW A given time & circumstances may hint or even follow up on ...bankruptcy. It worked /s for GM. Ford came close. Chrysler also, but bought by FIAT. All to some of these fall under the category of so called "too big to fail". Funny how there is no auto industry equivalent "Dodd Frank".
So to me, it has all to do with how important to the US Germany remaining in the EU is. It was very apparent that the US fancied Germany and the UK as EU anchors (stores). Brexit took the US by complete & utter surprise! I'm sure Brexit had, has, continue to have an economic impact. Not even approximate numbers were ever discussed in US news. It is interesting that London England has become the new financial capital of the world over NYC.(Wall Street) (1%er protest, et al)
Or this might be part of broader goals that gives Toyota and GM shots at #'s 1 and 2, sandbagging VW @ # 3. There is a certain irony that all three produce & sell TDI's world wide.
Brexit may not come to full fruition, either, even if we won't hear the truth about the impacts to the EU about its second most powerful member deciding to leave the club. The US might end up being the only nation that has successfully Brexited