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At least that's my story and I'm gonna stick to it..
It said that any four sats should be available at any one time, but I know mine sometimes shows as few as one or two. Less than that and it displays 'searching for sats' or something like that indicating that too much error is possible until it grabs an extra sat or two. I'm sorta in the north here and even on my property which is really varied in terrain with some steep cliffs and elevation changes, later in the day is harder to lock on six or seven which often are available at other times. Seasons seem to affect it also. Tree coverage, and of course the immense Cdn shield (rock..black and pink granite) depending on where you're standing, affects it big time..
You have a cool wife, Gary..I wish my past GFs had taken such an interest in reading up on how a new purchase works. Didn't seem to matter whether it was a car or a VCR, she'd always hand me the book..
I notice in that pic that it appears that your mirrors are folded in? I suspect they motor themselves in when you lock up the car to allow more elbow room when walking between cars and to keep them outta harms way..
They do go in when you stop the engine and pull out the fob thingy. My wife is a reader. She was not as interested when we bought the Sequoia. I think she really likes this vehicle. I found it much more intuitive than Japanese vehicles. Even with all the added electronic entertainment.
Other than that, once in a while one to some of the big three do get some models right. If one looks at the ratings for reliability on edmunds.com for the Malibu it garners 5/5 across the board.
Another Chevrolet product that is getting some notice is the 14 Impala which in the CR points ratings post @ 95/100 points, just below Porsche 911 series. I think a killer application would be a Impala diesel ! That might an outlier viewpoint ! It goes without saying the points do NOT make the cars in any way shape or form similar cars.
I am lucky to be alive.
See ya at the next NoCal GTG...
Against LI Sailor and Harlequin and others.
I got the B100 from Berkeley co op called Biofuel Oasis. Still go there to get B100, but just add a 1/2 gallon to my tank after each fillup nowadays.......................
I sold the cayenne before the cayenne tdi came out, and decided against the toureg tdi. oh well...............................
Take care....
What happened to Tidester ?
Another "HATER" myth that has LONG since been put out of its misery !!!!
C & D did an article on a more late model Porsche Cayenne (SUV).
Porsvhe Cayenne TDI posted app .92 G skidpad !!! EPA H of 29 mpg puts another "HATER" myth BITING the dust.
Indeed, some years AFTER the thread was closed, the BIG three (union labor, aka ... oh yes BIG republican fans: along with the Environmental CONS !! ??
Game, Set, MATCH !
The latest on the Cayenne TDI has it with a overall best of .94G. The Touareg with a not so shabby .85G. That matched the BMW 35D and beat the Jeep GC and ML350 Bluetec. One win for the Touareg means a lot to me. It had the lowest noise level at 70 MPH. Beating the MB, JGC and Porsche Cayenne. Much of my driving is at 70 MPH on the highway.
I used to drive more but ended up moving closer to my job. Now, 8000 miles a year gets me to work and I have a second vehicle to even share those miles across. My neighbor bought a new Prius last year to go to the grocery store. If we traded cars, I'd save 8 gallons a month.
RIP to Tidester.
No gimmee, it is partial death syndrome, (PDS) a degenerative disease that causes memory loss, moaning, and an intense desire for brains.
LOL. :shades:
Sorry I have been gone so long. The mid-size 2.0 board has been busy.
Speaking of GPS - I thought you diesel road trip travelers should know that the Garmin Nuvi (like my 255w from 2010) provides one free map update within 90 days of purchase, and one free update after.
I didn't know this, and for 3 years didn't bother to update the maps. However, for my summer vacation i decided to do it, but found that I got a free update to the lastest map!
I just thought you gents should know that you don't have to wait, or try to torrent a free one (plagiarism).
Not bad for an $89 bucks spent years ago, and after years of being out in the heat, cold, and everything else it still works perfectly and looks new.
I'm sure the fine print says "lifetime of the device" somewhere, but I update mine about every 3 months.
I'm in mid-Wisconsin right now and haven't checked premium, but I'm back in the ~.40 cent spread between regular (~$3.57) and diesel country.
We're in cruising mode and I'm barely speeding. Got passed by a Passat TDI yesterday on a section of Interstate we got on and it must have been going 85. :-)
12 VW T PUG= 18.8 mpg/4.11= 21.9 cents per mile driven,
12 VW T TDI D2=24.9 mpg/4.11= .16.5 cents per mile driven or 32.7% more expensive AND uses 32.4% more fuel. www.fuelly.com
I will be the first to say a portable GPS can be a PITA. However, the flips side is you can take it from car to car and don't have to know multiple function protocols. Needless to say it is (relatively) WAY cheaper to repair and/or replace when and if it goes BAD or you just get tired of it or just want a new one. For me, the majority of GPS oems are literally in the neighborhood, sold by local stores IN the neighborhood (aka support your local business's) :shades:
A VW Polo TDI gets 75 mpg which is 50% better than a Prius V . The Polo is far cheaper than almost any Prius.
Indeed it would be interesting to have a Prius TDI hybrid on the market. Again it would be easy to expect 30% better mpg from a Prius TDI vs a gasser.
But then I got an 04 Civic (38-42 mpg) vs 04 Prius (44 mpg). The price difference was app 12.4k., which is a LOT of gas. For the (Prius') 6 mpg better, it would take me 48.82 years to break even (18,000 miles per year. Indeed for $200 more I could have gotten 2 04 Civics to one 04 Prius. Now that is more apples to apples
But then a Civic TDI should get a min of 30% better mpg !
If I was in the market for a two wheel drive station wagon I would have bought the VW Sportswagen TDI. I am serious when I say I will NEVER EVER buy another gas powered vehicle.
My friend with a Prius C has reached a point where he wants to park under trees, hoping one randomly falls on the car. The payment on my diesel car is twice as much as his - but IMO I have more than twice as much car. There's more to life than a few extra mpgs, and your bank book does you no good once you're in a casket.
You're right...But I'd rather buy other toys than a VW SUV like you.
Yes, look for dead and leaning trees.... I actually saw this in a recent walk through a SF, CA neighborhood (not far from the ICONIC crooked street, aka Lombard St). Evidently the (unionized- normally they would yellow tape it, throw orance cones around it and tell everybody to pick a number and come back next month) grounds crew made fast and short work of the tree clean up, as it blocked a packed tourista cable car route. I would have hated to be the Prius owner coming back to a Prius "dropped topped " CONVERTIBLE :lemon: Gotta say the grounds crew was considerate. Instead of leaving a big ole tree trunk on top of the Prius they removed it also. :shades: Now I wonder if the Prius owner got a ticket for over time parking and parking a wreck on a public street !!! :sick:
That would be me that has to have an SUV for trips. I cannot think of any toy I would rather have. I would suggest you take a new GLK250 Bluetec for a test drive. But you would be sick getting back into a Prius and hate yourself. I have a feeling we are going to see some real good mileage postings for the GLK 4 cylinder diesel.
Wayne Gerdes (& side kick as shotgun- the side kick/Gerdes looked to be 6 ft 5 and 250#'s + !! Should have gotten a shorter person @ 110 #'s?
..."Gerdes himself set a Guinness World Record for his 2011 drive in a Kia Optima Hybrid. His average of 64.55 mpg on that nearly 8,000-mile trip still stands as the record for the lowest fuel consumption by a hybrid vehicle traveling all 48 U.S. states. But the conventionally powered diesel Passat posted significantly better economy than the hybrid, surpassing its average by 13 mpg."...
This is what they did in the real world:
..."Beat hybrid vehicle record by 13 mpg"... (sidebar issue @ best :P
..."To cover 8,122 miles on just 104.94 gallons of fuel is nothing short of astonishing and shows just how economical our TDI Clean Diesel vehicles can be,"...
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Fiat/ Chrysler got their head out of the sand and we will soon see the Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Most likely the 2.0 L for US markets.
Again, just to show the greater audience, (you probably know this) , WE are not getting the so called full monte. :lemon: European and probably WW options are ALSO the 1.6 L EA 288. (one spin off is better mpg?) Another options: plug in electric debuted @ Geneva Auto Show mated to an EA288 TDI,( L size unknown) . This would blow out a Prius hybrid on almost ALL metrics !! WE, of course could NOT tolerate that ! ? I wonder what would be the mileage range for the plug in electrical portion? 280 miles on a Tesla is the outlier !?
They probably would if they were being sold yet. When I went looking for them in April, the Jeep dealer said he would have one for test drives in June. I went in June and he said they may be able to order one for me in August, for delivery in 90 days. I would not expect to see any before November now. That is one reason I scratched them off my list. I want to make another trip back East in October. I will let someone else be first. I think the problem is the Italian company building the diesel engines is small and may be over loaded with orders. I also asked the dealer about discounts on their gas version Summit. Which will be offered with the diesel. He did not act like they were dealing. Well VW did deal and I am the happy owner of a Touareg TDI Lux. And you were instrumental in that process.
I think I see today why they were so willing to discount the 2013 Touaregs. Last week there were no 2014 Touaregs listed on Cars.com. Today 33 show up. So clearing out the 2013s before the end of July makes sense. I am glad to oblige. I still cannot believe the $0/0% for 5 years. I don't have to make the first payment until September 15th. It pays to have good credit scores when these opportunities arise.
Expanding to automatic, same question.
Please use fastest or torquiest or some metric like that. skidpad too (hello Cayenne TDI).
Thank you.
As you know, I'm interested in the Prius V and you may not be too far off the mark. Not emotional so much but I've read a few disconcerting reports that the seats are uncomfortable after a couple of three hours. Enough complaints have come in that I've also read that Toyota is reworking them (if you can believe some net reports).
The van has gotten a couple of 25mpg tanks lately and the seats are great, so I'm hoping to get another 10 or 20k out of it.
Hmmm...35 plus 30% is 45.5 mpg. 140 HP Passat is only 40 hwy, with an auto transmission. The 2.0 liter Passat in a lighter car is not quite even 15% more mpgs on the hwy. More like 14.3%. Funny how the $4 diesel vs $3.50 RUG prices exactly cancels out all the mpg savings?
No wonder the numbers don't get touted.
SUVs...we won't even go there. A 140 HP diesel pushing a Toureg?
Real life numbers? I bested my cars hwy rating by 20% on my last trip, so don't go claiming VW has that corner to itself either.
I'll be going on a road trip next week, maybe 1000 miles - I hope to have around an indicated 40mpg average, at least on highway stretches. You've cared for the van, it could last much longer than 20K. But at its age, you never know - might last 10 more days, might last 10 more years.
$3.91RUG = $.156 cents per mile driven /$4.11 D2 = $ .0996 cents per mile driven. Yes $4.11 D2 IS $ .20 cents more than $3.91 RUG. Funny how you think .0996 cents per mile driven is the same as $.156 cents, even as it is 57% more! . It is interesting you also think that 25.1 mpg is the same as 42.1 mpg even as 42.1 mpg is 68% BETTER.
So for example, if you keep your car 100,000 miles you will pay a min of 15600 vs 9960 or 5640 more per 100k miles.
I have NOTHING against your choice of Malibu. or 2 gasser options. BUT.... if I were to get a Malibu I would as a minimum want the TDI option or 2 TDI options. :surprise:
Are you running for Congress?
As an aside...your gas job SC uses engine supplied power to work. It is an unadulterated tax on the engine at the crank just as blatant as an A/C compressor is. A turbo charger OTOH, uses exhaust gases to spool. Some would consider this free spooling. And in a diesel which operates so much more efficiently than a gas job with that same turbo, less heat is created (heat {and improper use}being the enemy to turbo longevity. Once again, the oil burner, when turbo'd, asks less off these stressful conditions and while doing so, delivers/exploits every good thing that a diesel has to offer.
I do keep an eye on the brakes and good tires.
Did I mention the idiot pickup trailer puller who got in around 9 last night in the campground in Madison and idled for 15 minutes checking out the sites? Yep, a noisy as Hades diesel job.
Fifteen minutes later a sedan cruised in with barely a peep. Of course he lit up our camp from 500' away idling in a spot with his headlights on. Inconsiderate campers of all stripes.
Guess the big diesel pushers don't bother me. Never see them move and they all seem to have CR-V for toads.
You'll come back and be trading your 1.4 gas turbo for the oil burner Cruze...
Drive carefully out there.