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I have not read any articles indicating what (average) mileage is on the odometer when it (high mileage vehicles) hits the boneyard/junkyard.
Americans did set a record last year for the number of miles driven.
Today's bad diesel health news from the BBC.
This was surprising:
225 Diesel Cars Sold In USA January (theautochannel.com)
To compare, 4,448 diesel-powered cars sold in the same period a year ago.
Diesel trucks are doing fine.
Not finding much good diesel news today unless maybe you like the idea of VW building EVs in Chattanooga.
But in the shorter-term, WOO HOO ! Am I getting a 2009 VW Jetta TDI PURCHASE PRICE buy back? Hey Stevie, you got to stop posting these articles that link these fantasy articles !
Fintail would scoff as I say in my best HOLLYWOOD "I can't breathe " imitation "
I can't breathe" .... due to the WORLD WIDE pollution of the US market 2009 VW TDI!
So IF the buy back scenario will become/ is true.... the problem now becomes, which new 2016/2017 diesel to buy? (cough, cough) The daughters REALLY like the 2012 VW
Touareg TDI & 2014 MB GLK 250 BT! They might even buy back the Touareg? So I truly might be one of the most stupidest people on this thread, but, I'm liking these kind of numbers, as fantasy as they now are!
Like I've been saying all along, I can't even make this stuff up !
Fun about the Monarchs. Got to go to one of the sanctuaries in Mexico ~10 years ago, amazing to see zillions of them flocked on the trees. My MIL refused to put a yard in when she built her new house across the street from the beach up in the UP in the 90s. When the city tried to fine her she went to the council and said she was growing milkweed to feed the endangered species. They backed down in the face of a little dynamite package of senior power, lol.
Been meaning to Google her house to see if the new owners are keeping the weeds and sand.
For about four years, I would drive my 2003 VW Jetta TDI through some of the places mention in the linked article, to go see my daughter monthly at UC Santa Barbara. She happened to have lived in Goleta, CA for a time. Fun stuff. Yes, I was just fine with only 48/49 mpg
I googled mina few months back and it showed a TDI parked in the driveway.
I notice in one of your pieces. Only 6% of VW TDI owners are concerned. That matches what my dealer said the last two times I was in. Sadly no VW TDI shirts to buy. Not sure what I will spend the $500 on at the dealer. I get free service for two more years. Need to put some miles on while diesel is cheap.
Maybe you should move to Oregon just so someone else can pump your ga..., er diesel. (trucknews.com)
Granted auto industry pundits don't publish %'s results on this kind of thing, like the meat & potaoes car ratings. For example, who is really all that concerned about the TAKATA airbag fiasco?
TAKATA air bags have DIRECTLY taken lives, as opposed to NONE for VW's so called diesel-gate. It is also totally inverse ( to some fuzzy logic )? WAG about VW's alleged pollution % INdirect death wag and has WHOLE lot more far-reaching DIRECT effects!!
I'm sure there is a chance of TAKATA bankruptcy, which would complicate/ stall the whole R&R bad airbag replacement cycles as a bare minimum!! So I have not seen a 12.5% concern rate, for example. Even a " 6% concen" rate would TOTALLY drawf the volume of NON/affected "diesel-gate" TBI owners!
"We still believe this is a great time to buy a diesel passenger car or diesel, if you can buy one. Think like baseball philospher Yogi Berra (“the place is so popular, nobody goes there anymore”) only in reverse: Diesels are so unpopular, you should go find one. "
Diesel passenger car sales go on life support — just 222 sold in January (extremetech.com)
Both daughters & new SIL after having extensively driven both diesel CUV's, now see them as dream cars ! Looks only, while real nice (my .02 cents only) are very very deceiving ? Three drove them. Now three love them, TDI option!
Katie! ...bar the doors !
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That said, for the kind of driving I mostly do, a hybrid may be a better choice. I'm just not sure I will like the driving dynamics of a hybrid, based on the short test drive I took a couple of years ago in a Prius C.
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In addition to the Prus line, I'm sure you also are aware that VW, as well as other diesel OEM's have the hybrid models, as well as EV 's also.
So for example, I am almost diametrically opposed to HAVING to run "the egg between the right foot on the throttle/throttle as biofeedback" routine to get any kind of good mpg from a gas hybrid.
In addition, to drive a gas hybrid well, the procedures and protocols are " different" to much more complicated than the diesels or gas like model. So don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people who love the "geekiness" about it!
And, I'll look at other hybrids as well .. just read that someone got a great lease deal on a Fusion hybrid.
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2015 Passat TDI 's were posting 50 mpg on down! In my same commute 40 mpg on the 2009 Jetta TDI, I'm guessing an easy 43 to 45 on a 2015 Passat TDI.
"When you see cars piling up on the way to school taking their children, the fumes directly from the vehicle in front are being vented straight into the car behind, and exposing their child - and yet we are ignoring this," he added.
Two things and over abundance of pedophiles make parents nervous about their children. Here it costs up to $500 a year for bus service. Has to be paid in advance. No doubt it is a high pollution area around schools before and after school.
WardsAuto.com, is reporting that there were 222 diesel-powered cars sold in the U.S. in January, a sharp decline from the 4,448 sold in the same period a year ago
Not rocket science with that one. Sales banned by VW and Audi that account for the bulk of diesel sales.
"A federal judge will hold a hearing Thursday that may offer the first details on any progress in settling over 500 lawsuits filed against Volkswagen AG, a top supplier and many current and former top executives over excess emissions in 580,000 U.S. diesel vehicles."
VW hearing on diesel suits may provide clues on settlement progress (autonews.com)
That's the suit by the owners. Hope the courts have gone digital, take a big clear-cut to print out that 719 page legal complaint and mail it out to everyone.
Ford’s F-150 diesel prototype spied driving in the wild (equipmentworld.com)
500 whiners out of 580k vehicles is almost not worth mentioning. I wonder how they will prove they were harmed physically or financially? If they sold under book value to anyone but a VW dealer, the VW can say they would have offered full book value. Be interesting to see if they get more than the VW Love gift we all got.
Yes! I don't think the VW CCP is a"$500./$500 $$ settlement". Meaning that it would be totally tax-free. But, it does come under the IRS form 1099 MISC, $600 reporting triggers, also
If they settle for BB value with those that choose to sue, so be it. So if they buy back @ my $ PP, & I need or want another diesel, what can I say?
I'll gladly pay half the edmunds-used-car price and VW can pay the other half due to their Favnercheatin.
http://www.businessinsider.com/volkswagen-recovery-in-america-suv-tiguan-2016-2
Speaking of closings , the Bank of America where my mother lives (three towns only divided by streets, total population ~35K) is closing in May, even with that base there apparently wasn't enough to keep it going. That same town lost its JCP a few years ago (so did mine, I live in a very affluent boomburb). Sometimes actions are more tied to corporate health than the overall economy.
So for example, in the case of Macy's, 40 closings are a direct shot to the heart, so to speak of NYC. (corporate headquarters of Macy's.) Many people also don't understand, that behind oil, the fashion industry is one of the BIGGEST United States industries! This is a major reason why I do not buy into the eco cons stories! I would say many to all of us have too many clothes! Much of it is from China !
As it applies to VW, corporate may have misunderstood the US CUV/SUV market! How long it will remain a hot market remains to seen. But being as how 75% plus of the market are large cars to light trucks, I'd say a minimum of 12 years. So I think as a minimum, @ least they are making an effort. It will be interesting to see if they brought out a Tiquan TDI with 369 #ft of torque or so!?
But yes, I think you pretty much have the drill down!
Just got a smog on each diesel: 2012 VW Touareg TDI & 2014 MB GLK 250 BT . Each was hand scanned for the serial numbers. The cable was plungged into each's OBD. The data was downloaded to the CA DMV. Both "PASSED" with flying colors !
The VW Customer Care Package (2012 VW Touareg TDI) was also "activated" at the local dealer. Life is good!
Yeah! I am glad to hear that Tiquan sales are doing very well! I think that if VW decides to bring the Tiquan TDI back to the US markets, they will sell even more units! I would swag the TDI % would get up to @ least 25% of Tiguan model sales! Hopefully it is the right product and for a long long time.
Gagrice, to answer your question about gifting, it is considered "promotional ".
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
This is the real VW problem? http://news.yahoo.com/post-dieselgate-volkswagen-retools-itself-faster-ride-130407667--finance.html
What's crazy is the 76 station in our little village has ULSD for $2.19 and RUG for $2.49. Across the street RUG is $2.69 and diesel $2.69. With 20 cent discount if you do the car wash thing.
Not Surprised Buick is near the top. Haven't they always been the best of the GM cars. The Encore with the 4 cylinder diesel used in the Cruze, would be a great CUV choice.
At the court hearing last week, Volkswagen Lawyer Robert Guiffra told that the company is getting closer to reach an agreement with the regulators. However, the details on the ongoing negotiation cannot be provided as the Justice Department has asked the automaker not to disclose any of the negotiation information.
http://www.businessfinancenews.com/28000-volkswagen-served-with-march-24-deadline-to-find-emission-fix/
I specifically left out the "quid pro quo" : VW offering EV models. I am just guessing here, ( behind closed door elements) but I think the issue was WHO/WHOM is/WAS going to propose it as a solution, not that it was a viable one or not.
By way of looking in the mirror, at least two or more owners/technicians @ separate smog stations, commented that there's no way that these (3 in my case) diesels really needed smog inspection, let alone @ the diesels mandated intervals.
@ this point it does not look like a buyback is in the cards for the 2009 TDI's. I have all along thought it was a very long shot, even at high bluebook. Truthfully, I had hoped & still hope I am so very wrong on this ! I would really like preferential pricing & ZERO % & down on GTD or Tiquan both with the 369 # ft torque & 7/8/9 speed A/T.!!
All of the family members indicate they are SO over small to compact sedans!? All like the CUV concept. Each car was returned washed, full tank & ZERO scratches , albeit plus app 1,000 miles more than it had before.. I shouldn't have let them all drive both of our CUV's!
The DOJ has probably negotiated the EV quid pro quo. I'm also sure that the fines have also been negotiated . All this brouhaha is really the price to pay for VW's expansion to app 5% of the market share. (target 850,000 units) I am sure VW is anxious to ramp up it's diesel Passat production in Chattanooga, Tennessee .
Keep in mind the CUV market segment product that VW is deficient, will come from Mexico!
I can only hope that in there somewhere, they have negotiated IRS tax credits for buying future diesels.