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My friend (with over 16,000 hours in commercial airlines @ other aircraft) drove the 12 VW Touareg TDI. This was a treat for me, riding shotgun! YEE HAW! He drove it like a crack fighter pilot does! Time for a multiple thousand miles road trip!
The local newspaper featured an article in autoMD.com. UPSHOT : it would seem that one in two people drive vehicles with over 100,000 miles, and 81% say the appropriate vehicle lifespan is 10 years or more.
ULSD $ $ 2.15 (filled@), RUG $2.29/PUG $2.53
2009 Jetta TDI, 38 mpg, urban (terrible) commute to SOS/DD trek.
SOS/DD for the 12 Touareg TDI (33 mpg), 14 MB GLK 250 BT! (36 mpg)
"The judge is “obviously encouraged that there’s substantial progress, but he’s keeping Volkswagen’s feet to the fire,” said Adam Levitt, a member of the plaintiff lawyers’ steering committee. “If a fix is not in place by the April 21 hearing, the consequences for Volkswagen will not be favorable.”
VW Fails to Reach Agreement With U.S. on Fix for Diesel Engines (Bloomberg)
The 2009 Jetta TDI up and back to Tahoe (425) of 572 miles with commuting, posted 13.2 /( 14.5)gallons, 43.3 mpg.
Not a word from CARB, on the MB GLK 250 BT?!
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
https://www.volkswagen-vans.co.uk/range/camper-vans-t6/california-ocean
Driving in the hills of unincorporated San Mateo County, (overlooking the Pacific Ocean: where is laid out the iconic Highway 1) I get behind that iconic (23 Windows) VW BUS!!?? In the process of looking for a place to pass I started looking at the driver who had hippie style long hair. The OMG moment came when he stuck his hand out to give a left-hand turn signal ! PEACE man
http://www.yahoo.com/autos/vw-diesel-scandal-now-6-months-old-learned-154000277.html
The concept of TDI's as a no-brainer for pick up trucks (among others) to large cars to suv's are starting to take hold!?
Despite various "diesel is dead" headlines and pronouncements by executives, diesel engines are likely to continue to sell decently in pickup trucks and sport-utility vehicles.
Scandal or not, rules demanding higher fuel economy and lower carbon emissions are staying put in North America, Europe, China, and other markets.
Diesels are one way to meet those rules, and they are well-received among truck buyers and, increasingly, owners of large or luxury crossover SUVs.
A small diesel PU and the Touareg is more than enough vehicles for the two of us.
On sedans, I'm not likely to get another sedan, if I am to buy another vehicle. I just convinced a relative to keep a sedan with 120,000 miles. The goal? 240,000 miles & evaluate @ that time.
CUV's/SUV's have been popular for a very long time. I would not be surprised if the small to bigger compact cars % percentage of the passenger vehicle fleet has gone down.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160329/RETAIL03/160329857/vw-sued-by-ftc-over-clean-diesel-ad-claims?cciid=email-autonews-blast
Oh, our brave warriors in the public sector enforcement cabals keep us safe. This is almost becoming like a make work project for the answers-to-nobody class.
"According to Volkswagen USA’s marketing strategy materials, one of the “keymessages” it intended to convey through the word “clean” was that Clean Diesel vehicles produce “NOx emissions [that are] reduced by 95 percent[.]” "
Very human, of course, but dumb. I suspect that the folks in advertising had no idea of what had been done.
All I really know is that VW is def blue over this mess.
VW A?
http://247wallst.com/autos/2016/03/30/more-reasons-for-volkswagen-to-flee-us-market/
1. lousy market share as most Americans not interested in good handling and well engineered vehicles.
2. Poor profit margins as Americans next to Canadians are the biggest cheapskates on the planet.
3. EPA/CARB continually changing the rules for diesels that are VW's best reason for being here.
4. Our litigious way of settling things is probably the best reason to get out of the USA.
5. The highest Corporate taxes of the OECD countries.
If you can think of more feel free to add.
And I can't speak for anyone else, but number 2 feels just a little like I have been insulted.
with a poor reputation for service(well, can say that about most dealerships). There's going to be even fewer dealers if VW doesn't get Dieselgate figured out and some product to the dealers.The tax rate thing is funny, as the US also undertaxes the wealthy compared to competitive nations. The money for the military-industrial cabal (who uses a lot of diesel) and the well-subsidized FIRE sector has to come from somewhere.
I do know we pay less for cars here than most of the industrial countries. I paid about $18,000 less for my Touareg TDI here than someone in the UK would pay. I would have to be a multi millionaire to afford this car in Norway.
VW Passat base price in Norway = $54,387. In the US = $29,115.
VW Touareg in Norway: $130,000. In US: $43,995.
Porsche 911 Carrera 4S in Norway: $262,419. US: $105,630.
High corporate taxes in the USA are a fact, not at all political. The reason so many companies have moved their operations to other countries.
I think that is by design. With 70,000 pages of tax code to decipher and find the loopholes only the very wealthy can afford the tax attorney staff needed to beat the system.
Being a very small player in the USA puts VW at a disadvantage. If they have to pay $billions to satisfy US for this fairly innocuous infringement, why bother staying in the game? I would bet when VW sorts out the culprits the number of people involved will be small. I really doubt it was common knowledge throughout the company or someone would have blown the whistle.
Tesla Norway have big issues with long waiting times (4-5 months) and this is just not acceptable. My car have already been in and out of the service center many times because of other issues and leaks and the service center did often just make things they “fix” even worse!
And now this issue and the ridiculous wait time just make me want to buy something else. Its really annoying to have bough my first new car ever (P85D delivered in April 2015) And I feel the service is worse than you get after buying a old $500 used car at the corner.
http://cleantechnica.com/2015/11/27/tesla-service-wait-times-in-norway-getting-looong/
So I'm not sure why would one would want to dial- down the trigger level of " insult". ( hair trigger insult) So if ones really math challenged, this particular TLC is 18 years old. Some folks are having a cow with a $2, 000 diesel premium. As I've said any number of times, it's easier to get around this premium.
Today (several days ago actually) @ 14 NOK per liter RUG & 10 NOK ULSD per liter= $4.73 per gal.
17% to 14.45 to 11.05% (35% vs only 15%)
It is pretty interesting how much tweaking goes on with "old" tech.
That 198,000 people would put $1000 to overpay for untested (poor ) reliability & durability technology, is a tribute to the poison KOOL aid swallowing persuasive abilities. Who was that guy PT .....
Oops, wrong company.
Interesting hype about Tesla - I don't remember the Prius attaining such "Apple fan boi" status even back in the day of Dicaprio and the red carpet premiers.
Normal car OEMs would KILL to have 198,000 people lining up for a specific modellet alone @ MSRP & /or above! The real & absolutely crazy thing is that Tesla actually gets government/s tax CREDITS for each sold ! To boot, taxes on "profits" are essentially zero ! The rest of the bountiful details are essentially opaque.
But to keep it interesting, here's the latest 411! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-model-3-profitable-151416006.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-volkswagen-may-miss-deadline-153019750.html
Diesels or not, it can be perplexing (for such an engineering based company) why VW has such issues hitting the longer term USA sales numbers @ 800,000 to 850,000 units (their stated unit goals 4.5% of yrly sales of 17.5 M) ! ? With Golf, Jetta, Passat, small CUV, small PU truck, & misc. models , it is easy to do the math. If VW could sell 150,000 to 175,000 units per model, they would be in TALL cotton.
VW seems to stubbornly ignore the USA large car to light truck dominate (75%) markets and concentrate in the smaller 25% small car market. It seems to be a down hill no brainer from there. It does make you wonder if they are that clueless, or that as one of the largest car companies in the world, just waiting for THE right moment & like a snake shedding its old skin.!?
After months (years?) of owners and dealers yelling, they finally sent some engineers over here and they determined that the brake pad material wasn't suited for the humidity levels of a large part of the US. When they re-spec'd the materials, the complaints went away.
At least that's my memory.
I remember the 1960’s and VWs. They were the first foreign car that most people of my generation had any experience with, or exposure to. And the Beetle really was foreign. I remember when my friends and I thought of the Beetle as not so much a “car” as an alternate form of transportation.
As in, you had cars, trucks, motorcycles, and …. VWs.
They seem to be doing very well globally these days. Maybe they will just abandon the US market. They have such a small market share here, it probably wouldn’t hurt them, or at least very little.
VW seems to have pretty much abandoned the corner of the market that they originally inhabited, at least here in the US. I remember when the Geo Metro came out, about 1990? My brother bought one, a couple of my friends as well. Once again, it was thought of and purchased more as an “alternative to a car” than as a car. Anyone else remember driving a Geo Metro with non-power steering? You didn’t need a gym membership if you drove one of those every day!
These days, the Honda Fit and it’s kin fit the same bill. At least kinda / sorta. @qbrozen had a Honda Fit for a short while, and a Nissan Leaf before that. From what he posted here, neither was very successful at replacing a real car.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/trucksdotcom/2016/04/11/natural-gas-engine-cummins-on-way/#6bf022244ac1