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Here are some of the “uglier sides” of the gasoline side. It starts with why do the 30,000 mile diesel oil and filter changes when 5,000 miles oil & filter changes will do?
https://youtu.be/QAYSd0WnLBY
Right now local greenies want everyone to sacrifice private cars and detached houses in the name of the environment, yet the sacrifice isn't being doled out equally.
If you like your old TDI, mile it up and see if you can break some kind of record.
Riding a Duck is a dangerous thing in this driving environment (and they won't be making a diesel).
2018 Ford F150 30 mpg (light duty) PU Truck!?
It’s interesting that Ford is making 5% of their PU truck vehicle fleet as TDI’s, 45,000 units. 2019 GM”s to follow.
Fuelly.com indicates 17/18 mpg . 76.5 % to 67% better mpg sure does NOT appeal to the majority of new light duty PU truck customers!? @ current fuel prices, that’s approximately $16,000 savings in fuel over 12 years (15,000 miles per year)
Another scapegoat for... diesel gate. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/77cbed2e-d38b-3443-98fa-1fb774057e61/ss_porsche-exec-arrested-over.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/porsche-powertrain-development-boss-arrested-130649787.html
Tire pressures have always been “rubber ruler” types of FEDERAL, industry standards & theoretical and practical measurements! This can be very very good to ...bad. To cut to the chase, I suspect my TP goes to +4 psi to +6 psi above placard with NON run flat tires. To wit, run flat tires are notoriously more expensive, hard riding, fasr wearing & not as sticky on skipad g’s. All things being equal, the next set of (NON run flat) tires should last easily last 30,000 to 40,000 miles longer than the OEM Dunlop run flats & be way cheaper in $$’s total cost & per mile driven.
Again advantage diesel?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/difference-between-diesel-gasoline-powered-171525074.html
For those who like a little TMI :
...”Each year, the U.S. produces approximately 15 billion bushels of corn, over 35% of which is directed towards ethanol production. One bushel of corn can produce about 2.7 gallons of ethanol. So, it takes 370 million bushels of corn to produce one billion gallons of ethanol.”...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ftodddavidson/2018/04/23/the-new-war-over-ethanol-and-how-it-might-affect-you/?partner=yahootix&yptr=yahoo#73964a3d30c5
Well, we can make AA ( alcoholics Anonymous ) more business by flooding the bourbon markets? (booze has 73% taxation)
37 mpg (last fill 14.8 gal.) MIGHT be a new normal (from 36 mpg) given 5W30 (vs 5w40) ESP Mobil 1 oil.
This morning, though, the on-board computer noted my drive into work today (which is our first above-freezing morning in a long, long time (about 38-40 degrees)) was 29.0 mpg. So, still not a bad showing.
Given what I have said in the past, ANY late model car (diesel, gas, gas hybrid, E85, EV) should be able to make it to the first major tuneup (@ 100,000 miles to 120,000 miles) The 2nd 100,000 to 120,000 miles (200,000 miles to 240,000 miles), that’s the real first test.
To wit, the 2nd 100,000 miles (15 years on the 2003 VW Jetta TDI) came & went (turtling along) with relatively no drama. (in contrast to gasoline like models) I’m electing to do the “tune up” @ 220,000 miles +. (app 1 year @ current use) It’s still post 48 to 52 mpg. It uses app 1/2 L per 25,000 to 30,000 miles.
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My, my how far we have come from the closed down “ I hate SUVs, why don’t you? topic.
Even shame/scoff bully boy tactics advocates aren’t convinced enough to buy. Indeed not even you have a station wagon, not to mention TDI,
VW’s Jetta TDI “JSW” has enjoyed niche status. It even enjoys much greater resale value over the sedan model. VW statistics indicate 85% of JSW’s are TDI’s. How this (station wagons) goes forward (VW Golf Alltrack) , sans TDI’s remains to be seen.
I don't drive one because there's no new offering with a powerplant I really want that I can also realistically afford. I'd drive an E63 wagon over a sedan, if I had that kind of scratch.
You & you posts illustrate my point/s. Even you can’t see your way to the station wagon fan boy/girl niche. With VW out of the TDI game, there are even less precious little TDI options in the seeming ever shrinking SW/station wagon segment. Less buyers, shrinking product selection. There are no complicated factors here.
However, some of it has to do with space and load-hauling capacity. Nowadays, it seems like leg room is not nearly the scant commodity it was for so long, but having additional head room in an "SUV" such as a Forester, which originally had very little leg room just like the Impreza platform that spawned it, is appealing. And, if I can use it to haul large items, too? Sold. AWD is just icing on the cake.
Back then, though, one would give up a fair bit of fuel economy for all that convenience, so there was a trade off. That gap continues to narrow more and more.
If I could get a wagon with AWD and was roomy but had no pretenses of "SUW/SUV/CUV" or the like, I would certainly consider it. Honestly, the Ford Flex is that exactly. It is, in no way, one of those semi-off-road go-anywhere sort of vehicles (it doesn't toss that image about at all). People who buy it realize just how amazingly it fits the bill for "do everything." That image, though.... so many buyers don't even look at stuff like that because they want the image.
Me? I find that I just want diesel nowadays. If Ford had their new V6 diesel in that thing, I would be running to the dealership! Instead, I'm going to sell the Q7, sit tight for a bit, and see where things go. I might get a lightly used diesel Cruze hatchback with a manual in the meantime because, lets be honest... I don't really NEED another do-everything car; my major hesitation is the lack of AWD on that one.
The Ford Flex looks (to me) like a modified shoebox. But more importantly, did #/#’s of buyers make it profitable to Ford?
V/I 6 TDI 425+# ft of torque would certainly get me to look.
Buy? Buyers have voted! https://finance.yahoo.com/m/09cd7c60-3944-3238-bc83-1a86d21e7cb9/ford-says-only-mustang,-focus.html
My desire for a wagon is stunted by lack of either powertrain, lack of model, or both. Offer me a C250d wagon, and I'll place an order tomorrow, and keep it for a long time. E400d wagon would be a financial stretch, but also tempting.
People who don't like the SF and environs are free to leave. Petty property crime in densely populated areas is a reality everywhere, especially as the socio-economic chasm widens in this new Belle Epoque. I also don't see data showing cars and wagons are more likely to be prowled than tall wagons/CUVs. Looking at housing prices, it doesn't appear many are fleeing the bay. Something must be right, and some should embrace the boom, or the lucky generations wouldn't be even luckier cashing in
I want diesel too, and hope MB can let the US rejoin the first world and have it offered again.
Funny that you should say people are free to leave the SF Bay Area. They are in droves ! The entitled ruling set have been targeting what neighborhoods to downgrade, by herding the homeless to: “affordable” &/or temp housing, porta potties, mobile cleaning crews with equipments , etc. I’m sure the operating model is coming YOUR way, if it is not already in use.
But on the other coast, Bloomberg just reported $ softness in the Hamptons real estate inventory. Seems you too, can get a deal.
MB wants max profit for minimum effort without thought of future implications, and is catering less and less to brand traditionalists. It's that simple.
Porsche had to face this survival issue with their mid size CUV, Cayenne, 16 to 25 years ago. To the Porsche Purists that was pure heresy! Some say it was Armageddon! But the (VW) midsize CUV SAVED the company. Anyone can Google the rest of that history.
Here’s GM’s sedan scramble ? https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/could-chevy-impala-next-american-154000550.html
To me, all this hub bub is advantage diesel ! Diesels are the keys to 30 mpg + plus PU trucks, etc.
Too much gasoline engine oil zaps power?
https://youtu.be/qOmMDF8sNro
But the 2.1 L biturbo diesel engine is fine with 7 qts. It’s another clue why 31,068 miles oil & filter changes are no big deal.
Ford look. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ford-might-regret-killing-cars-183225831.html
I don't see Image as much of a factor, unless you are driving a Porsche Cayenne, Escalade or Range Rover. The millions of CUVs on the road all look alike. Kind of kills any soccer mom status symbol. Something quite stunning here in Nevada is the lack of SUVs or any vehicles lined up at the schools, morning and evening. I guess when the state has free school buses parents use them. Our California school district charged $500 in advance for the school year per kid.
I shop MB for a deal. If there's nothing new I want, I can just buy another E250 Bluetec, or maybe do a private import of a diesel G.
Regarding the Impala, it might have enough fleet demand to keep going, unless rental fleets switch to CUVs en masse - then we'll see real changes in the big 2.5.
Those dieslegate gifts were like winning lottery tickets, and some played it right.
Not sure what the rental agencies are buying. My daughter from Indiana drives an Outback and wanted something similar for her vacation. She got a brand new Nissan Murano which she liked driving from San Diego to Pahrump. She is 43 and has not owned a sedan for a long time. I bought her a used Ford Ranger right out of High School. She drove it 4 years until she got married and had a kid. She had a high paying job and bought a Honda CRV that she hated. Ended up with a full sized GMC PU. She is now on her second Subaru and will likely stick with them. CUVs are now the best selling vehicles in just about every brand.
Those dieslegate gifts were like winning lottery tickets, and some played it right.
The VW Touareg is comparable if not superior to the Mercedes ML SUVs. Comparing a Passat to an E is really apples to oranges. I liked driving both the ML and Touareg. Not fond of the shift on the column on the MB. Really not fond of the price, $20k more comparably equipped to the VW. General attitude of MB dealers was not to my liking. There around the block test drives are annoying as well. The VW dealer I bought from took us out for at least an hour drive up the coast. Not in any hurry to get back like the MB salesman. Without diesel option I would not have wasted my time driving to the MB dealership. I am in good health now, but who knows what tomorrow will bring. 4 more payments and the VW is free and clear. Now all I have to do is talk my wife into a few road trips this Summer.
On VW’s “ diesel-gate “ : & yes, when life gives lemons, make lemonade! ?
Only MB CUV I'd have interest in would be a GLC, and without a diesel powertrain, it just doesn't make me run to it. I'd prefer a sedan with all else equal. I'd take a C or E wagon over one. Makes a private import old G diesel more tempting.
I suppose it makes sense the Touareg is the effectively the top of the line product in this market, where an ML isn't. Still, I don't know if an E is apples and oranges to a loaded mainstream brand, but that might reinforce what it has - a Bluetec really only competes with Audi and BMW diesels. I think our friend ruking will attest to the goodness of the little 2.1 - but that engine might be a tad small for your VW.
I think the surface of the sun weather there in the summer might get her wanting to take a break
https://youtu.be/-62Dr1JgAh4