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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870

    3 owners and 12k is all I see, too. Weird.
    I didn’t think it would be worth $40k, but sure enough it is. Going for $38k on average at auction.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635

    @qbrozen said:
    3 owners and 12k is all I see, too. Weird.
    I didn’t think it would be worth $40k, but sure enough it is. Going for $38k on average at auction.

    Thanks! Currently priced at $39.3k

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 4,852
    Michaell said:

    @qbrozen said:

    3 owners and 12k is all I see, too. Weird.

    I didn’t think it would be worth $40k, but sure enough it is. Going for $38k on average at auction.

    Thanks! Currently priced at $39.3k


    Anything look suspicious for it having 3 owners already? Service records available?

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635

    @sda said:
    Anything look suspicious for it having 3 owners already? Service records available?

    Didn't look too closely at the details. One owner only had the car for 400 miles.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,186
    Michaell said:

    @sda said:

    Anything look suspicious for it having 3 owners already? Service records available?

    Didn't look too closely at the details. One owner only had the car for 400 miles.


    Perhaps he/she died of old age?

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,295

    Michaell said:

    @sda said:

    Anything look suspicious for it having 3 owners already? Service records available?

    Didn't look too closely at the details. One owner only had the car for 400 miles.

    Perhaps he/she died of old age?

    I was sure you were going to say boredom.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,404
    Isn't XT5 Equinox based? If so, what else is related to the XT4?
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635

    Isn't XT5 Equinox based? If so, what else is related to the XT4?

    According to wikipedia, the XT4 is on the same platform as the Buick Envision.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,674

    @explorerx4 said:
    Isn't XT5 Equinox based? If so, what else is related to the XT4?

    XT5 is on the Acadia/Blazer platform.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,404
    Acadia is a 3 row, much bigger than an XT5.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,674

    @explorerx4 said:
    Acadia is a 3 row, much bigger than an XT5.

    Same platform and wheelbase just a few inches shorter than the Acadia.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,404
    I've been in a 2021 XT5. It is the size as my wife's MKC.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635

    I've been in a 2021 XT5. It is the size as my wife's MKC.

    @explorerx4 - just to confirm, the Corsair is the new name for the MKC?

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,674

    Which Acadia are you comparing it to? The 17+ got significantly smaller than the previous generation

    Current Acadia is 193.6”
    The current XT5 is 189.6

    Both ride on the same 112.5” WB are an within 1/2” of each other on the width.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,404
    edited August 20
    @tjc78,
    I comparing to the Acadia in my neighbor's driveway. ;)
    It just seems very un-GM.
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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 688
    edited September 11
    Just curious what a fair price would be to pay for this one:

    97 4Runner SR5 4WD
    JT3HN86R4V0128861
    V6 Manual
    Anthracite/Oak
    Sunroof
    65k miles

    I posted about it a while back, they started close to $25k. It's very clean, no rust, a few small dings, no dents. I understand it's on consignment, one owner, considering putting in an offer but I'm thinking less than $10k?
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,834
    edited September 11

    It's nearly a quarter century old. It's also a unicorn. How badly do you want it? I'd be surprised if four figures got it done, but i wouldnt pay more for it either.... I'll bet someone will step up, but apparently not for$25 ;)

    No way to know it's "true" value.
    Good luck -mathias

  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 688
    Thanks, it's one of the boys who thinks he has to have it. I told him there's a reason it's still there and I reminded him what we paid for the one we bought that's 10 years newer.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,807
    I'd go $10k on that if I wanted it--$25k is insane. I can see someone (not me) paying the mid teens if it's really nice.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870

    @dad23 said:
    Just curious what a fair price would be to pay for this one:

    97 4Runner SR5 4WD
    JT3HN86R4V0128861
    V6 Manual
    Anthracite/Oak
    Sunroof
    65k miles

    I posted about it a while back, they started close to $25k. It's very clean, no rust, a few small dings, no dents. I understand it's on consignment, one owner, considering putting in an offer but I'm thinking less than $10k?

    As said, there is no way to know. They should put it on BaT or C&B and probably would get $20k for it, honestly, if it shows like 65k miles.

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 688
    Thanks guys, and you're right q, we've seen some on C&B going for what you've described. He wants an early gen 4Runner, trying to teach him patience as well :)
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,823


    As said, there is no way to know. They should put it on BaT or C&B and probably would get $20k for it, honestly, if it shows like 65k mile


    In the late '90's I drove a '97 or '98 4Runner with about 10K miles. Had the leather, S/R, all that stuff. They were asking about $31K IIRC. My then g/f told me to buy it, & I guess I should have. BTW, later, I also drove the next gen 4Runner--I thought it a huge upgrade. And had--(or were available)--side airbags.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,881
    edited September 15
    I haven’t posted here in years but I’m wondering how crazy the market really is these days.

    What would be a private party value on a base model 2004 Chevy Express cargo van auto with 4.3L 6 cyl., RWD, crank windows and 122k miles. I would call it fair to rough with air bag light lit and AC with a slow leak that empties the system over a few months. Cosmetically ugly with extensive rocker rust which is typical of this area. Frame is solid. Tires are good and it’s mechanically good other than the aforementioned items. Just a basic work van.

    I’m thinking it’s a $1,000 hooptie but in this market I wonder. Any guesses?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,530
    Up there, if with a valid inspection sticker, and running decently, maybe $2,500?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870
    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,881
    qbrozen said:

    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

    Wow! 5 years of use and $400 more than I paid for it. Now that’s crazy but I suppose there is a shortage of ubiquitous white vans too. Thanks for the opinions.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,530

    qbrozen said:

    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

    Wow! 5 years of use and $400 more than I paid for it. Now that’s crazy but I suppose there is a shortage of ubiquitous white vans too. Thanks for the opinions.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,721
    stickguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

    Wow! 5 years of use and $400 more than I paid for it. Now that’s crazy but I suppose there is a shortage of ubiquitous white vans too. Thanks for the opinions.
    Different world now.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635
    andres3 said:

    stickguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

    Wow! 5 years of use and $400 more than I paid for it. Now that’s crazy but I suppose there is a shortage of ubiquitous white vans too. Thanks for the opinions.
    Different world now.
    Taco Bell is putting up signs they'll pay $15 an hour for someone with a pulse.
    That’s pretty much every fast food place around here.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 18,881
    andres3 said:

    stickguy said:

    qbrozen said:

    At least rocker rust isn't fatal with body on frame. Those were fairly decent engines, so 122k isn't bad. I also feel like somewhere north of $2k is doable. I'd probably ask $2950. No need to mention the rust, as that is normal, like you said. I'd point out working AC, good tires and brakes, and any other positives. For some reason, $2200 is striking me as the number to be agreed upon.

    Wow! 5 years of use and $400 more than I paid for it. Now that’s crazy but I suppose there is a shortage of ubiquitous white vans too. Thanks for the opinions.
    Different world now.
    Taco Bell is putting up signs they'll pay $15 an hour for someone with a pulse.
    Burger King in my area is offering $15.75. That would be a big step up in pay for me but I got to cruise the countryside in a BMW 7 series today so stick it burger flippers.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 194,635
    @qbrozen - can you look up how much this car sold for at auction?

    VIN: 58AEZ1B17LU074668

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870
    Michaell said:

    @qbrozen - can you look up how much this car sold for at auction?

    VIN: 58AEZ1B17LU074668

    Must not have been a Manheim. It comes up as a Luxury model, of which there have only been 4 in the past 6 months. Three with under 6k miles and one with over 50k and seemingly wrecked. My WAG would be in that $39k zip code, which would put it about $2k under those with lower miles and $2k above the non-lux versions.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 199,136
    qbrozen said:

    Michaell said:

    @qbrozen - can you look up how much this car sold for at auction?

    VIN: 58AEZ1B17LU074668

    Must not have been a Manheim. It comes up as a Luxury model, of which there have only been 4 in the past 6 months. Three with under 6k miles and one with over 50k and seemingly wrecked. My WAG would be in that $39k zip code, which would put it about $2k under those with lower miles and $2k above the non-lux versions.
    It was Manheim in Orlando, but maybe within the last week.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,530
    What is it?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 199,136
    stickguy said:

    What is it?

    2020 Lexus ES 350 that the boss traded in, on the Santa Cruz. (in Miami)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870
    kyfdx said:

    qbrozen said:

    Michaell said:

    @qbrozen - can you look up how much this car sold for at auction?

    VIN: 58AEZ1B17LU074668

    Must not have been a Manheim. It comes up as a Luxury model, of which there have only been 4 in the past 6 months. Three with under 6k miles and one with over 50k and seemingly wrecked. My WAG would be in that $39k zip code, which would put it about $2k under those with lower miles and $2k above the non-lux versions.
    It was Manheim in Orlando, but maybe within the last week.
    how do you know it went through there?

    only thing close was 9/15, central FL, blue ... so that all matches ... but states 10,242 miles (and not listed as Luxury, but that's not surprising). Maybe they made a mistake on the miles. That went for $39.5k.

    don't know if you saw, but it is at a VW dealer in Alpharetta. https://www.nalleyvw.com/used/Lexus/2020-Lexus-ES+350-in-Atlanta-ea994b100a0e09af182aa112e98bce17.htm

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 199,136
    qbrozen said:

    kyfdx said:

    qbrozen said:

    Michaell said:

    @qbrozen - can you look up how much this car sold for at auction?

    VIN: 58AEZ1B17LU074668

    Must not have been a Manheim. It comes up as a Luxury model, of which there have only been 4 in the past 6 months. Three with under 6k miles and one with over 50k and seemingly wrecked. My WAG would be in that $39k zip code, which would put it about $2k under those with lower miles and $2k above the non-lux versions.
    It was Manheim in Orlando, but maybe within the last week.
    how do you know it went through there?

    only thing close was 9/15, central FL, blue ... so that all matches ... but states 10,242 miles (and not listed as Luxury, but that's not surprising). Maybe they made a mistake on the miles. That went for $39.5k.

    don't know if you saw, but it is at a VW dealer in Alpharetta. https://www.nalleyvw.com/used/Lexus/2020-Lexus-ES+350-in-Atlanta-ea994b100a0e09af182aa112e98bce17.htm
    That's a big dealer group. It's actually CPO at their Lexus dealership

    https://www.nalleylexussmyrna.com/used/LEXUS/2020-LEXUS-ES+350-ea994b100a0e09af182aa112e98bce17.htm

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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 688
    qbrozen said:

    @dad23 said:

    Just curious what a fair price would be to pay for this one:

    97 4Runner SR5 4WD

    JT3HN86R4V0128861

    V6 Manual

    Anthracite/Oak

    Sunroof

    65k miles

    I posted about it a while back, they started close to $25k. It's very clean, no rust, a few small dings, no dents. I understand it's on consignment, one owner, considering putting in an offer but I'm thinking less than $10k?

    As said, there is no way to know. They should put it on BaT or C&B and probably would get $20k for it, honestly, if it shows like 65k miles.


    I just got an email from the broker that got us our Tacoma about the 4Runner:

    "It did sell and some idiot paid $22k for it..."
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,807

    Just be thankful it wasn’t you… On something that old, I’d rather have a less expensive one that was a little beat up and/or miled up, so I wouldn’t feel bad about driving it regularly.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,404
    My MKZ finally hit Carvana's website, no pics yet. They are asking 36,9.
    I got 31.9.
    Vroom asked 5k over what they gave me for my F150 about a year ago.
    They got 3k over after 5 months.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870
    edited September 17

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  • JustinSJustinS TampaAdministrator Posts: 47
    qbrozen said:

    Yes, but how do we know it was Manheim?

    And, FWIW, I often see dates on carfax and manheim reports that are off by a day or two.


    Jumping in here. I was able to track the car's location on the Lexus app and it was sitting right next to the Manheim location in Orlando, so it's an assumption but very likely.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 29,870

    Well, this is all I got. Everything aligns but the miles.

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  • BeenniizzBeenniizz Member Posts: 5
    Car selling advice.
    Looking to sell my 2019 Toyota Tundra Limited Crewmax 4D TRD, 32K miles, clean title to a PRIVATE PARTY (I prefer to sell to individuals to get top $).
    Any advice for a price?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,530
    these days, a lot.

    I would run it through carmax, Vroom and Carvana (all online and quick) to get 3 real data points to work with.

    I always found selling something expensive to a private party to be a lot trickier, since they almost always need financing. Plus if you don't own it outright, have to deal with paying off the loan and getting the title.

    and it you are buying a replacement, might get a tax credit (that makes a big difference in a high sales tax state like where I unfortunately am!)

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  • BeenniizzBeenniizz Member Posts: 5
    Thank you for the response.
    Carmax offer 43,000, Carvana 41,000 and Vroom 46,000.
    I am totally ok with paying the loan and handle it.
    The question is how much is a lot?
    And yes I am buying a replacement. so what do you mean by tax credit?
    stickguy said:

    these days, a lot.

    I would run it through carmax, Vroom and Carvana (all online and quick) to get 3 real data points to work with.

    I always found selling something expensive to a private party to be a lot trickier, since they almost always need financing. Plus if you don't own it outright, have to deal with paying off the loan and getting the title.

    and it you are buying a replacement, might get a tax credit (that makes a big difference in a high sales tax state like where I unfortunately am!)

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,530
    in a lot of states when you trade in, you don't pay sales tax on the trade value, just the difference. So in NJ, if you got 46K trade value, you would save ~$3,000 in sales tax. So that has to be factored in when deciding to sell private or trade in

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,807
    The Vroom offer sounds really strong. You may find it difficult to do better than that by selling private party.
  • BeenniizzBeenniizz Member Posts: 5
    corvette said:

    The Vroom offer sounds really strong. You may find it difficult to do better than that by selling private party.

    Sound strong, but I want to see if they will buy it straight from the dealer like Carmax offered. that will save me the purchase fees etc.
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