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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    @Beenniizz said:
    Sound strong, but I want to see if they will buy it straight from the dealer like Carmax offered. that will save me the purchase fees etc.

    Yes, they will.
    Is this financed or leased?

    I can’t find the model you state. I can choose TRD Pro or a Limited, not both. And is this 4wd? V8? What color and what state?

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  • BeenniizzBeenniizz Member Posts: 5
    qbrozen said:

    @Beenniizz said:

    Sound strong, but I want to see if they will buy it straight from the dealer like Carmax offered. that will save me the purchase fees etc.

    Yes, they will.

    Is this financed or leased?

    I can’t find the model you state. I can choose TRD Pro or a Limited, not both. And is this 4wd? V8? What color and what state?


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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    Any current needs or damage or any past damage?

    If “no” to all the above, the numbers seem surprisingly light. $46k is right there at auction value. I would expect similar vehicles to be advertised in the $50k-$52k range. So you could be competitive at $48995.

    But, as mentioned above, if your state has trade-in tax credit, you’d be better off going that route and asking them to match Vroom’s offer.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,535
    Nevada offers a tax credit when you trade in a vehicle. Multiply the trade-in allowance (the amount you are getting for the trade) by the appropriate sales-tax rate. If you are receiving $5000 for your trade-in vehicle, and your sales-tax rate is 7.5 percent, you would multiply 5000 by .075.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,844

    What purchase fees? Any dealer (Vroom, etc) just has to pay the loan off or cut you a check if you own it.

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  • BeenniizzBeenniizz Member Posts: 5
    tjc78 said:

    What purchase fees? Any dealer (Vroom, etc) just has to pay the loan off or cut you a check if you own it.

    I checked with Vroom, they are not purchasing leasing cars, only loans.
    So I think I will take Carmax offer (43K) and will cut a check of $5,500.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118
    edited October 18
    Hey Q, just for S&Gs can you give me an idea of what 2021 Tesla M3 SR+'s are doing at manheim? Seattle Metro (zip 98101 if you need one). Assume premium paint (e.g. blue) and sport wheels.

    Thanks!
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068

    Hey Q, just for S&Gs can you give me an idea of what 2021 Tesla M3 SR+'s are doing at manheim? Seattle Metro (zip 98101 if you need one). Assume premium paint (e.g. blue) and sport wheels.

    Thanks!




    mid $48ks on average.

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  • jpp75jpp75 DenverMember Posts: 1,493

    Hey Q, just for S&Gs can you give me an idea of what 2021 Tesla M3 SR+'s are doing at manheim? Seattle Metro (zip 98101 if you need one). Assume premium paint (e.g. blue) and sport wheels.

    Thanks!

    As another reference point when I traded my 2020 Model3 Long Range AWD in early July the Land Rover dealer gave me $44k for it and then listed it for $53,900. It was gone within a week so I assume they got close to that for it.

    It had the blue paint, white interior and sport wheels. I think MSRP was $50,900 or thereabout.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    Just curious for a reality check, but what’s reasonable these days on something like this?

    2014 BMW 328i. X drive. AT, loaded (premium pack, cold weather, camera and park sensors, Navi, luxury line trim). Looks very clean. Even has weather tech liners so somebody spoiled it!

    White over brown leather, 46k miles.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,768
    stickguy said:

    Just curious for a reality check, but what’s reasonable these days on something like this?

    2014 BMW 328i. X drive. AT, loaded (premium pack, cold weather, camera and park sensors, Navi, luxury line trim). Looks very clean. Even has weather tech liners so somebody spoiled it!

    White over brown leather, 46k miles.

    Really low miles for a 2014

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    I know. One reason it interested me.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068
    edited October 22
    stickguy said:

    Just curious for a reality check, but what’s reasonable these days on something like this?

    2014 BMW 328i. X drive. AT, loaded (premium pack, cold weather, camera and park sensors, Navi, luxury line trim). Looks very clean. Even has weather tech liners so somebody spoiled it!

    White over brown leather, 46k miles.

    Only one comp, unfortunately, and it was black in Dallas. Sold for $19,400. Next one was 59k miles, also black in Dallas, @ $14k. Big discrepancy for 13k miles. Then we had one at $16k w/61k. So, let's throw out the $14k and average out the other two. $18k seems like a safe number. Purchase for about $21k, give or take a nickel.

    '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6. 56-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    So listed at $19,444 at a reputable used car dealer isn’t a bad deal it seems. With those miles, and putting on maybe 3-5k/year tops, should last a long time.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118
    One thing to be weary of - those early 2012-2014 328s had some issues with timing chain guides that can be pricey to fix.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    It’s a BMW. Isn’t everything?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,295
    stickguy said:

    It’s a BMW. Isn’t everything?

    If you know a good indie shop or dealer and have a CCA membership it's not bad at all. The running costs for my wife's X1 with the same engine have averaged $312/year. It would be even less if I didn't get the coolant and brake fluid changed more often than BMW recommends. There was a TSB for the early N20 timing chains. It might well have already been replaced on that car. BMW also extended the timing chain warranty to 7-year 70K miles.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118

    stickguy said:

    It’s a BMW. Isn’t everything?

    If you know a good indie shop or dealer and have a CCA membership it's not bad at all. The running costs for my wife's X1 with the same engine have averaged $312/year. It would be even less if I didn't get the coolant and brake fluid changed more often than BMW recommends. There was a TSB for the early N20 timing chains. It might well have already been replaced on that car. BMW also extended the timing chain warranty to 7-year 70K miles.
    Excellent call - totally forgot that BMW extended the warranty on those.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    Smashing. There is a top notch bmw Indy shop about 2 miles from me too.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,804
    edited October 22
    2015 S4 prestige misano red with magma red & black interior leather with less than 44K miles in clean shape with a broken motor in San Diego?
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068
    andres3 said:

    2015 S4 prestige misano red with magma red & black interior leather with less than 44K miles in clean shape with a broken motor in San Diego?

    2 miles on new engine? ;b

    Unfortunately, data is scarce. Looking at PP models, they are roughly $30k-$31k. I'm not seeing enough evidence to indicate Prestige should be any more. I mean, somehow, a red one in decent condition with only 26k miles got $28.4k in VA 3 weeks ago. But 6 weeks prior to that, a gray one in poor condition got the same price. Wacky.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,888
    edited October 22
    Not to put words in his mouth, but he may be asking what it's worth without the new engine. :'(
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,318
    corvette said:

    Not to put words in his mouth, but he may be asking what it's worth without the new engine. :'(

    I'd take the wholesale cost and deduct the cost of the engine.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,068
    so odd, I read "broken mirror."
    Ah well. yeah... I can't really give you a value. I think you said something like $15k for the engine replacement. But that's a lot of hassle for someone to go through, too. I think you may be lucky to get $15k for the car as is.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    If wholesale on. A similar car is 15, and you can only get 15 for it as is, putting the new motor in seems like a good deal. Keep your nice pristine car that will be hard to replicate, and get zero mile engine with a warranty.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,768
    stickguy said:

    If wholesale on. A similar car is 15, and you can only get 15 for it as is, putting the new motor in seems like a good deal. Keep your nice pristine car that will be hard to replicate, and get zero mile engine with a warranty.

    I wouldn't pay $15K for a $30K car that needed $15K of work.

    I'll guess the value is under $10K as it sits. The only smart thing to do it fix it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    At that value, definitely.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,804
    qbrozen said:

    andres3 said:

    2015 S4 prestige misano red with magma red & black interior leather with less than 44K miles in clean shape with a broken motor in San Diego?

    2 miles on new engine? ;b

    Unfortunately, data is scarce. Looking at PP models, they are roughly $30k-$31k. I'm not seeing enough evidence to indicate Prestige should be any more. I mean, somehow, a red one in decent condition with only 26k miles got $28.4k in VA 3 weeks ago. But 6 weeks prior to that, a gray one in poor condition got the same price. Wacky.
    Looking at S4 prices and the amount they paid in an S4 owners forum they are wacky and all over the place.
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,511
    qbrozen said:

    so odd, I read "broken mirror."
    Ah well. yeah... I can't really give you a value. I think you said something like $15k for the engine replacement. But that's a lot of hassle for someone to go through, too. I think you may be lucky to get $15k for the car as is.

    “Broken mirror” ? To the best of my knowledge Mrs. j didn’t whack that one. :s

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,049
    Road, I just had the brake fluid changed for a second time at just over 68K but have yet to do the coolant in my VW Golf. Since it's staying in the fleet for the time being, is this something I should look into? I did have the water pump/thermostat replaced under warranty at 35,960 miles back in 2017 as I recall, where I'm assuming they put new coolant in, and we had to replace it in our A3 recently due to a coolant leak recently.
    Since I've already done it once on the Golf, is it necessary at almost 69K? Do I just have my mechanic swap it out and move on? Just trying to stop any potential problems in the near future.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    if your coolant is only 4 years/30,000 miles old it should be fine for a while. I would not change that now.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,049
    Figured as much but just wanted to be sure. At this point, I just want to put no more $ into either vehicle for a long while!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,295

    Road, I just had the brake fluid changed for a second time at just over 68K but have yet to do the coolant in my VW Golf. Since it's staying in the fleet for the time being, is this something I should look into? I did have the water pump/thermostat replaced under warranty at 35,960 miles back in 2017 as I recall, where I'm assuming they put new coolant in, and we had to replace it in our A3 recently due to a coolant leak recently.
    Since I've already done it once on the Golf, is it necessary at almost 69K? Do I just have my mechanic swap it out and move on? Just trying to stop any potential problems in the near future.

    I never go longer than 4 years on coolant; I normally change it out at 2-3 years- but as you know, I'm OCD about maintenance.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,007

    Road, I just had the brake fluid changed for a second time at just over 68K but have yet to do the coolant in my VW Golf. Since it's staying in the fleet for the time being, is this something I should look into? I did have the water pump/thermostat replaced under warranty at 35,960 miles back in 2017 as I recall, where I'm assuming they put new coolant in, and we had to replace it in our A3 recently due to a coolant leak recently.
    Since I've already done it once on the Golf, is it necessary at almost 69K? Do I just have my mechanic swap it out and move on? Just trying to stop any potential problems in the near future.

    I never go longer than 4 years on coolant; I normally change it out at 2-3 years- but as you know, I'm OCD about maintenance.
    And that’s why you experience minimal issues. I am a strong believer of preventive maintenance.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,511

    Road, I just had the brake fluid changed for a second time at just over 68K but have yet to do the coolant in my VW Golf. Since it's staying in the fleet for the time being, is this something I should look into? I did have the water pump/thermostat replaced under warranty at 35,960 miles back in 2017 as I recall, where I'm assuming they put new coolant in, and we had to replace it in our A3 recently due to a coolant leak recently.
    Since I've already done it once on the Golf, is it necessary at almost 69K? Do I just have my mechanic swap it out and move on? Just trying to stop any potential problems in the near future.

    I never go longer than 4 years on coolant; I normally change it out at 2-3 years- but as you know, I'm OCD about maintenance.
    The way I look at preventative maintenance is if you’re willing to save a buck today and spend many more tomorrow, then yeah, save a buck today.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,049
    I'll have to look at when VW changed it out but think it happened in 2017 or so. Next time I stop by mechanic's place, I'll ask him to take a look and do what he recommends. Car has been driving nicely as of late with no issues to speak of. But if I'm putting 40 miles/week on it, I'm lucky. Live very close to both part time gigs and we usually take the A3 if we go anywhere together.
    But, think it might be almost time to replace the coolant and move on from there.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    up to you for peace of mind, but the VW maintenance schedule doesn't call for it.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 8,888
    edited October 24

    It seems like Toyota has waffled over the years. I think their current recommendation is that a lot of the secondary fluids (transmission, transfer case, diff) get changed every 30k.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118

    No more than 3 years on coolant and no more than 2 years on brake fluid here, regardless of mileage.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,118

    @cdnpinhead said:
    Remember when there was a drain plug, a level/fill plug on the transmission (yeah, I know, a manual). And weirder still, the rear end (back when they were in the rear) had drain and fill/level ports.

    I may as well be speaking Swahili to most on here, but thought I'd throw this in.

    The good old days.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,768

    BMW doesn't call for a coolant change either, but they did before they started to offer free maintenance.

    Remember when there was a drain plug, a level/fill plug on the transmission (yeah, I know, a manual). And weirder still, the rear end (back when they were in the rear) had drain and fill/level ports.

    I may as well be speaking Swahili to most on here, but thought I'd throw this in.

    When I wanted the rear differential serviced, my mechanic had to buy a special tool from the Snap-On driver. Nothing he had would fit in the hole. And, this was on an '06 model.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019

    Diffs must still have fill plugs. Did they get rid of the drain so you have to vacuum it out?

    My Acura wants rear differential at 15k then every 30. I do the trans at every 30. Coolant, I think it’s 5 years and if not I’d do it by then anyway.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,379
    edited October 24
    Wait, how did we get on maintenance in the RWTIV thread?

    For what it's worth, every single car I've had, including the 2014 Audi Q7, have used a standard 1/2" driver plug for the differentials (rear for sure, often all). The only possible exceptions are the Subarus, wherein the front/center differential plug is a T70 Torx.

    What has become rather obnoxious in modern times is changing out transmission fluid.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,768
    stickguy said:

    Diffs must still have fill plugs. Did they get rid of the drain so you have to vacuum it out?

    My Acura wants rear differential at 15k then every 30. I do the trans at every 30. Coolant, I think it’s 5 years and if not I’d do it by then anyway.

    Yeah, no drain.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,019
    so either suck it out the top with a straw, or crack the case and make a mess! I assume the shop does it with a vacuum pump.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,768
    stickguy said:

    so either suck it out the top with a straw, or crack the case and make a mess! I assume the shop does it with a vacuum pump.

    It was the size of the hole that was an issue. It was a special “straw” that was needed for that model.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,511
    kyfdx said:

    BMW doesn't call for a coolant change either, but they did before they started to offer free maintenance.

    Remember when there was a drain plug, a level/fill plug on the transmission (yeah, I know, a manual). And weirder still, the rear end (back when they were in the rear) had drain and fill/level ports.

    I may as well be speaking Swahili to most on here, but thought I'd throw this in.

    When I wanted the rear differential serviced, my mechanic had to buy a special tool from the Snap-On driver. Nothing he had would fit in the hole. And, this was on an '06 model.
    1906 ? :s

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  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 43

    Hi. I am looking to buy a secondary SUV car. I found a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S Sport V8 with Convenience Package and few nice options such as Navi, Lane Assist, Memory Heated Seats, Bose soudsystem, Rearview camera, BiXenon lights. It has 67k miles. The seller offered to sell it for $21500. It is worth that price? Would I be able to sell it for over $20k in a year or two?

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