Real-World Trade-In Values

magnumek

An update about the Jaguar F-Pace. The car looks pretty good, looks like the front bumper has been replaced but other than that I did not see any frame damage or painting underneath the hood.
The owner agreed to $31500, I am buying it tomorrow.

Thank you so much guys!

qbrozen

@jmonroe1 said:
As a result of the bad engine in Son #1’s 2016 Kia van with 110K miles (just out of warranty) he has decided to buy a 2010 Infinity EX 35 with the 3.6 V6 engine.

The car is at a Jeep dealer in Niagara Falls and they want $14,750 for it. He’s having it inspected by a company that does this and he’s waiting for their report as I write this.

I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

A minivan to an EX is going to be a HUGE adjustment.

I love the EX, personally. A bulletproof little rocket. 2013 is a big upgrade. A little more rear legroom, better interior, bigger engine, and 2 more gears. Just putting that out there.

Price is a little rich, but where else would you find one with those miles?

The 2011 you saw is just absurdly priced.

corvette

qbrozen said:

I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

Maybe the previous owner swapped the bulletproof Nissan VQ engine for a GM 3.6 with the timing chain issues?

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

@jmonroe1 said:

As a result of the bad engine in Son #1’s 2016 Kia van with 110K miles (just out of warranty) he has decided to buy a 2010 Infinity EX 35 with the 3.6 V6 engine.

The car is at a Jeep dealer in Niagara Falls and they want $14,750 for it. He’s having it inspected by a company that does this and he’s waiting for their report as I write this.

I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

A minivan to an EX is going to be a HUGE adjustment.

I love the EX, personally. A bulletproof little rocket. 2013 is a big upgrade. A little more rear legroom, better interior, bigger engine, and 2 more gears. Just putting that out there.

Price is a little rich, but where else would you find one with those miles?

The 2011 you saw is just absurdly priced.

I could have swore he said it had the 3.6 engine. I know Nissan has a 3.5 and I think his 2013 G37 has a 3.7. It’s too late to talk to him now but I will tomorrow. Hopefully by then he’ll know if it passed the PPI.

I take it the price ain’t so bad given what used cars go for today. I guess the low miles and the care that was given to the car since new hikes the price a bit.

Thanks for your reply.

jmonroe

stickguy

it is a 3.5l. 3.6 was probably a typo! they did later on switch to a 3.7l version of that motor.

and yeah, with crazy prices these days, might as well at least get a super clean, well maintained, low miles unit. Can at least keep it a long time and amortize the cost better. If he doesn't blow this one up.

Michaell

@jmonroe1

If he's buying this one, he might not keep it for long...

jmonroe1

@stickguy said:
it is a 3.5l. 3.6 was probably a typo! they did later on switch to a 3.7l version of that motor.

and yeah, with crazy prices these days, might as well at least get a super clean, well maintained, low miles unit. Can at least keep it a long time and amortize the cost better. If he doesn't blow this one up.

He’s hoping to pass this car onto his youngest son who will get his license in February of 2023. He’s also hoping car prices return to normal by then and he can get a Telluride size thing then. And even more hoping, since this car should still have relatively low miles on it, this car will get his son through school.

That’s a whole lot of hoping and I hope he’s right.

jmonroe

patty92

I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?

Michaell

patty92 said:

I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?

Is this RWD or AWD?

patty92

RWD - 3.6L V6 - SPORT UTILITY trim

qbrozen

@patty92 said:
I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?

If truly minor and painted well, $20k is fair

stickguy

I wouldn't mind having one of those. RWD, don't think I have ever seen one of those up here in the NE

patty92

I appreciate it.
How about a 2014 Maserati GhibliS Q4 AWD 3.0 V6 - 3 owners - No accidents - Fully loaded - 66k miles.
For $24,000?

explorerx4

Oh Oh, someone just jumped the shark.

qbrozen

patty92 said:

I appreciate it.
How about a 2014 Maserati GhibliS Q4 AWD 3.0 V6 - 3 owners - No accidents - Fully loaded - 66k miles.
For $24,000?

3 owners should make you wonder.

Normally, great price. Changing hands that much does affect it, though. You apparently have a knack for finding those with just enough wrong to bring down the price to under what a clean one would go for at auction. With a 10-15% knock on value for being passed around like a flask on prom night, I'd say $24k is fair.

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:
3 owners should make you wonder.

Normally, great price. Changing hands that much does affect it, though. You apparently have a knack for finding those with just enough wrong to bring down the price to under what a clean one would go for at auction. With a 10-15% knock on value for being passed around like a flask on prom night, I'd say $24k is fair.

Now tell him $24K is fair UNTIL the repairs that are coming kill you.

Jmonroe

magnumek

I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k

jmonroe1

@magnumek said:
I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k

Man, you really do like cars that will require a lot of rack time, huh?

That’s my 2 cents worth.

jmonroe

magnumek

Premium brand vehicles such as Jaguar, Land Rover, Porsche, Alfa Romeo are not that inflated compared to common other brands. I like more exotic vehicles and I am not looking to own it for more than a year or two so looking for best deal. These cars do not sell as quick as others and people selling them usually have higher money reserves so there's a higher chance of scoring a deal without overpaying.

qbrozen

magnumek said:

I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k

Like the others you found, this is priced pretty much at auction value for a clean one.

corvette

magnumek said:

I like more exotic vehicles and I am not looking to own it for more than a year or two...

Should we send him over to the CCBA thread?

qbrozen

Seems like it. @magnumek , you may want to seek "help" (ok, its more likely encouragement): https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/4011/general/x/chronic-car-buyers-anonymous#latest

andres3

There's some members in CCBA that should only count as anywhere from .1 to .9 owners instead of 1 owner if it passes through them. It's time for the Car Fax's of the world to develop an algorithm for that. A car that's 4 years old with 4 prior @breld type owners with that track record is far different than someone that keeps their cars 10 years under normal conditions.

qbrozen

The next step for Carfax: contact owners and have them answer "why did you dump it?"

patty92

Thank you. There's one more Mercedes which is a 2014 Mercedes-Benz ML350 RWD w/ rearview camera, navigation, blind spot alert, collision warning - 55k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - no accidents - Florida.

What price is considered fair/great?

andres3

qbrozen said:

The next step for Carfax: contact owners and have them answer "why did you dump it?"

Based on sales ads, it's usually some sob story about "I need the money."

qbrozen

@patty92 said:
Thank you. There's one more Mercedes which is a 2014 Mercedes-Benz ML350 RWD w/ rearview camera, navigation, blind spot alert, collision warning - 55k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - no accidents - Florida.

What price is considered fair/great?

$19k-$20k fair
$18k or less is great.
Assuming no runs/hits/errors and all maintenance up to date.

breld

@stickguy - I love that estoril blue 230i you posted, though for a RWD 230, I'd probably want a manual.

Really should have kept my very cheap 228i that I had stumbled upon a couple years ago.

EDIT - Wrong Forum!!!!

budsbrother

For qbrozen and others. My 94 year old father just passed away and I need/want to sell his car. It's a 2018 Corolla SE, silver, automatic with the moonroof package. And it only has 14,700 miles. Spotless except for a 2 inch rub on the front bumper. The car is in Massachusetts. Trying to get an idea of its value in this crazy market before going to the Carmax, Carvana, Toyota dealer route. I figure someone will want it. Thanks in advance

stickguy

I just talked to my 92 yo father about his soon to end 2019 Sentra lease. Buyout is about $10,500. I just put it through edmunds and carmax offered $18,300 for it. Crazy.

I told him to buy it out.

qbrozen

@budsbrother said:
For qbrozen and others. My 94 year old father just passed away and I need/want to sell his car. It's a 2018 Corolla SE, silver, automatic with the moonroof package. And it only has 14,700 miles. Spotless except for a 2 inch rub on the front bumper. The car is in Massachusetts. Trying to get an idea of its value in this crazy market before going to the Carmax, Carvana, Toyota dealer route. I figure someone will want it. Thanks in advance

Another insane value here. Auction value is about $23k. I would say selling it privately should get you $25k; however, that is a big nut for a private party economy car. See what all the online places say.

budsbrother

Another insane value here. Auction value is about $23k. I would say selling it privately should get you $25k; however, that is a big nut for a private party economy car. See what all the online places say.

lol, Dad bought it off lease a year ago for $12,900 and the original sticker was $23,100. Unwittingly it turned into one of his better "investments". It's also paid off and I have the title. Should be interesting to see what the offers are. Thank you again!

roadburner

qbrozen- any auction data on this M2?
VIN: WBS2U7C05L7E17784
Thanks!

28firefighter

@roadburner said:
qbrozen- any auction data on this M2?
VIN: WBS2U7C05L7E17784
Thanks!

It says it’s in your driveway. Very strange.

corvette

28firefighter said:

It says it’s in your driveway. Very strange.

Must be someone on the CCBA board throwing AirTags on random M2s to see which one he buys.

qbrozen

@roadburner said:
qbrozen- any auction data on this M2?
VIN: WBS2U7C05L7E17784
Thanks!

Auction result? Yup. You can see it here:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/37ePV6kr/2020-bmw-m2-competition

roadburner

Thanks! The dealer wants $67K and now I see that the sled has a sunroof- hard pass.

stickguy

Here’s the weird spec you want.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxg2dZOV/2021-bmw-m2-competition

roadburner

I really like Sunset Orange; I found two manual + Exec Pkg cars, but both had sunroofs. You unfortunately pay top dollar for properly equipped cars. If the price was low enough I would consider a DCT, but a slick top and Exec Pkg are not negotiable.

28firefighter

Question Q.

Could you ballpark for me what 2021/22 Tacoma TRD Off Roads and 4Runner limiteds, all 4x4 are doing at auction right now? Figure 1000 miles.

qbrozen

‘21 double cab v6 offroad averages about $46k. Not noticeable diff on ‘22s yet.

4runner LTD is about $53k for ‘21 and looks to be currently trending at $1k higher on ‘22

28firefighter

Seems like if I could trade-in the Jeep, offset the tax on the 4Runner, and get a 49k 2022 Limited at MSRP that I could win on both ends while waiting for a new Jeep...at the very least, break even.

qbrozen

But…why? Just cut out the middle and go from jeep to jeep.

28firefighter

I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

Michaell

28firefighter said:

I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

Uh, the ZHP doesn't count?

28firefighter

@Michaell said:
Uh, the ZHP doesn't count?

looks outside

Definitely not.

stickguy

it's either the perfect time, or the worst time, to sell a Jeep.

qbrozen

@28firefighter said:
I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

I know it is hard to resist, but look at it this way: if the jeep value drops in the next 10 weeks, so will the toyo.

Unless this offer can’t be replicated by any of the usual suspects. How much higher is it than your 2nd best offer?

corvette

28firefighter said:

looks outside

Definitely not.

Don't you have snow tires, bro?

28firefighter

@corvette said:
Don't you have snow tires, bro?

Nope! This car is clean and detailed in the garage.

@qbrozen said:

@28firefighter said:
I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

I know it is hard to resist, but look at it this way: if the jeep value drops in the next 10 weeks, so will the toyo.

Unless this offer can’t be replicated by any of the usual suspects. How much higher is it than your 2nd best offer?

It’s a fair point. About $3k higher.