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  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 53

    An update about the Jaguar F-Pace. The car looks pretty good, looks like the front bumper has been replaced but other than that I did not see any frame damage or painting underneath the hood.
    The owner agreed to $31500, I am buying it tomorrow.

    Thank you so much guys!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @jmonroe1 said:
    As a result of the bad engine in Son #1’s 2016 Kia van with 110K miles (just out of warranty) he has decided to buy a 2010 Infinity EX 35 with the 3.6 V6 engine.

    The car is at a Jeep dealer in Niagara Falls and they want $14,750 for it. He’s having it inspected by a company that does this and he’s waiting for their report as I write this.

    I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

    A minivan to an EX is going to be a HUGE adjustment.

    I love the EX, personally. A bulletproof little rocket. 2013 is a big upgrade. A little more rear legroom, better interior, bigger engine, and 2 more gears. Just putting that out there.

    Price is a little rich, but where else would you find one with those miles?

    The 2011 you saw is just absurdly priced.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,074
    qbrozen said:


    I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

    Maybe the previous owner swapped the bulletproof Nissan VQ engine for a GM 3.6 with the timing chain issues? :p
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,504
    qbrozen said:

    @jmonroe1 said:

    As a result of the bad engine in Son #1’s 2016 Kia van with 110K miles (just out of warranty) he has decided to buy a 2010 Infinity EX 35 with the 3.6 V6 engine.

    The car is at a Jeep dealer in Niagara Falls and they want $14,750 for it. He’s having it inspected by a company that does this and he’s waiting for their report as I write this.

    I hope it ain’t a 3.6 or something has gone horribly wrong. ;b

    A minivan to an EX is going to be a HUGE adjustment.

    I love the EX, personally. A bulletproof little rocket. 2013 is a big upgrade. A little more rear legroom, better interior, bigger engine, and 2 more gears. Just putting that out there.

    Price is a little rich, but where else would you find one with those miles?

    The 2011 you saw is just absurdly priced.


    I could have swore he said it had the 3.6 engine. I know Nissan has a 3.5 and I think his 2013 G37 has a 3.7. It’s too late to talk to him now but I will tomorrow. Hopefully by then he’ll know if it passed the PPI.

    I take it the price ain’t so bad given what used cars go for today. I guess the low miles and the care that was given to the car since new hikes the price a bit.

    Thanks for your reply.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,682
    it is a 3.5l. 3.6 was probably a typo! they did later on switch to a 3.7l version of that motor.

    and yeah, with crazy prices these days, might as well at least get a super clean, well maintained, low miles unit. Can at least keep it a long time and amortize the cost better. If he doesn't blow this one up.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,926

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,504

    @stickguy said:
    it is a 3.5l. 3.6 was probably a typo! they did later on switch to a 3.7l version of that motor.

    and yeah, with crazy prices these days, might as well at least get a super clean, well maintained, low miles unit. Can at least keep it a long time and amortize the cost better. If he doesn't blow this one up.

    He’s hoping to pass this car onto his youngest son who will get his license in February of 2023. He’s also hoping car prices return to normal by then and he can get a Telluride size thing then. And even more hoping, since this car should still have relatively low miles on it, this car will get his son through school.

    That’s a whole lot of hoping and I hope he’s right. B)

    jmonroe

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  • patty92patty92 Member Posts: 4
    I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,926
    patty92 said:

    I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?

    Is this RWD or AWD?

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  • patty92patty92 Member Posts: 4
    RWD - 3.6L V6 - SPORT UTILITY trim
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @patty92 said:
    I am considering a 2013 Mercedes-Benz ML350 w/ rearview camera, navigation - 49k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - 1 minor side door accident - Florida. The seller wants $20,000. Is it a good or just decent price?

    If truly minor and painted well, $20k is fair

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,682
    I wouldn't mind having one of those. RWD, don't think I have ever seen one of those up here in the NE

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  • patty92patty92 Member Posts: 4
    I appreciate it.
    How about a 2014 Maserati GhibliS Q4 AWD 3.0 V6 - 3 owners - No accidents - Fully loaded - 66k miles.
    For $24,000?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915
    patty92 said:

    I appreciate it.
    How about a 2014 Maserati GhibliS Q4 AWD 3.0 V6 - 3 owners - No accidents - Fully loaded - 66k miles.
    For $24,000?

    3 owners should make you wonder.

    Normally, great price. Changing hands that much does affect it, though. You apparently have a knack for finding those with just enough wrong to bring down the price to under what a clean one would go for at auction. With a 10-15% knock on value for being passed around like a flask on prom night, I'd say $24k is fair.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,504

    @qbrozen said:
    3 owners should make you wonder.

    Normally, great price. Changing hands that much does affect it, though. You apparently have a knack for finding those with just enough wrong to bring down the price to under what a clean one would go for at auction. With a 10-15% knock on value for being passed around like a flask on prom night, I'd say $24k is fair.

    Now tell him $24K is fair UNTIL the repairs that are coming kill you.

    Jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 53
    edited December 2021
    I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
    Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

    Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 4,504

    @magnumek said:
    I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
    Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

    Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k

    Man, you really do like cars that will require a lot of rack time, huh? :'(

    That’s my 2 cents worth.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • magnumekmagnumek Member Posts: 53
    Premium brand vehicles such as Jaguar, Land Rover, Porsche, Alfa Romeo are not that inflated compared to common other brands. I like more exotic vehicles and I am not looking to own it for more than a year or two so looking for best deal. These cars do not sell as quick as others and people selling them usually have higher money reserves so there's a higher chance of scoring a deal without overpaying.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915
    magnumek said:

    I am still in search of a vehicle, the Jaguar owner cannot decide if he is selling it and keeps rescheduling.
    Would you mind checking one more vehicle for me please?

    Its a 2018 Land Rover Discovery Sport SE with vision assist package (surround camera, parking sensors), no sunroof or 3rd row, has 55k miles, 2 owners, no accidents, black in and out. Selling for $27k

    Like the others you found, this is priced pretty much at auction value for a clean one.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,074
    magnumek said:

    I like more exotic vehicles and I am not looking to own it for more than a year or two...

    Should we send him over to the CCBA thread?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915
    Seems like it. @magnumek , you may want to seek "help" (ok, its more likely encouragement): https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/4011/general/x/chronic-car-buyers-anonymous#latest

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,105
    There's some members in CCBA that should only count as anywhere from .1 to .9 owners instead of 1 owner if it passes through them. It's time for the Car Fax's of the world to develop an algorithm for that. A car that's 4 years old with 4 prior @breld type owners with that track record is far different than someone that keeps their cars 10 years under normal conditions.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915
    The next step for Carfax: contact owners and have them answer "why did you dump it?" ;)

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • patty92patty92 Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2021
    Thank you. There's one more Mercedes which is a 2014 Mercedes-Benz ML350 RWD w/ rearview camera, navigation, blind spot alert, collision warning - 55k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - no accidents - Florida.

    What price is considered fair/great?
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,105
    qbrozen said:

    The next step for Carfax: contact owners and have them answer "why did you dump it?" ;)

    Based on sales ads, it's usually some sob story about "I need the money."
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @patty92 said:
    Thank you. There's one more Mercedes which is a 2014 Mercedes-Benz ML350 RWD w/ rearview camera, navigation, blind spot alert, collision warning - 55k miles - white/tan color - 1 owner - no accidents - Florida.

    What price is considered fair/great?

    $19k-$20k fair
    $18k or less is great.
    Assuming no runs/hits/errors and all maintenance up to date.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,155
    edited December 2021
    @stickguy - I love that estoril blue 230i you posted, though for a RWD 230, I'd probably want a manual.

    Really should have kept my very cheap 228i that I had stumbled upon a couple years ago.

    EDIT - Wrong Forum!!!!

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  • budsbrotherbudsbrother Member Posts: 36
    For qbrozen and others. My 94 year old father just passed away and I need/want to sell his car. It's a 2018 Corolla SE, silver, automatic with the moonroof package. And it only has 14,700 miles. Spotless except for a 2 inch rub on the front bumper. The car is in Massachusetts. Trying to get an idea of its value in this crazy market before going to the Carmax, Carvana, Toyota dealer route. I figure someone will want it. Thanks in advance
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,682

    I just talked to my 92 yo father about his soon to end 2019 Sentra lease. Buyout is about $10,500. I just put it through edmunds and carmax offered $18,300 for it. Crazy.

    I told him to buy it out.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @budsbrother said:
    For qbrozen and others. My 94 year old father just passed away and I need/want to sell his car. It's a 2018 Corolla SE, silver, automatic with the moonroof package. And it only has 14,700 miles. Spotless except for a 2 inch rub on the front bumper. The car is in Massachusetts. Trying to get an idea of its value in this crazy market before going to the Carmax, Carvana, Toyota dealer route. I figure someone will want it. Thanks in advance

    Another insane value here. Auction value is about $23k. I would say selling it privately should get you $25k; however, that is a big nut for a private party economy car. See what all the online places say.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • budsbrotherbudsbrother Member Posts: 36
    Another insane value here. Auction value is about $23k. I would say selling it privately should get you $25k; however, that is a big nut for a private party economy car. See what all the online places say.

    lol, Dad bought it off lease a year ago for $12,900 and the original sticker was $23,100. Unwittingly it turned into one of his better "investments". It's also paid off and I have the title. Should be interesting to see what the offers are. Thank you again!
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,772

    qbrozen- any auction data on this M2?
    VIN: WBS2U7C05L7E17784
    Thanks!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,074

    It says it’s in your driveway. Very strange.

    Must be someone on the CCBA board throwing AirTags on random M2s to see which one he buys.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @roadburner said:
    qbrozen- any auction data on this M2?
    VIN: WBS2U7C05L7E17784
    Thanks!

    Auction result? Yup. You can see it here:
    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/37ePV6kr/2020-bmw-m2-competition

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,772
    edited December 2021
    Thanks! The dealer wants $67K and now I see that the sled has a sunroof- hard pass.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,682

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,772

    I really like Sunset Orange; I found two manual + Exec Pkg cars, but both had sunroofs. You unfortunately pay top dollar for properly equipped cars. If the price was low enough I would consider a DCT, but a slick top and Exec Pkg are not negotiable.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,590

    Question Q.

    Could you ballpark for me what 2021/22 Tacoma TRD Off Roads and 4Runner limiteds, all 4x4 are doing at auction right now? Figure 1000 miles.

    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2008 Infiniti G35
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    ‘21 double cab v6 offroad averages about $46k. Not noticeable diff on ‘22s yet.

    4runner LTD is about $53k for ‘21 and looks to be currently trending at $1k higher on ‘22

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,590
    edited December 2021
    Seems like if I could trade-in the Jeep, offset the tax on the 4Runner, and get a 49k 2022 Limited at MSRP that I could win on both ends while waiting for a new Jeep...at the very least, break even.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    But…why? Just cut out the middle and go from jeep to jeep.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,590

    I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2008 Infiniti G35
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 204,926

    I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

    Uh, the ZHP doesn't count? :sunglasses:

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,590

    @Michaell said:
    Uh, the ZHP doesn't count? :sunglasses:

    looks outside

    Definitely not.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,682
    it's either the perfect time, or the worst time, to sell a Jeep.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,915

    @28firefighter said:
    I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

    I know it is hard to resist, but look at it this way: if the jeep value drops in the next 10 weeks, so will the toyo.

    Unless this offer can’t be replicated by any of the usual suspects. How much higher is it than your 2nd best offer?

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,074
    edited December 2021

    looks outside

    Definitely not.

    Don't you have snow tires, bro?
    :D
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,590

    @corvette said:
    Don't you have snow tires, bro?
    :D

    Nope! This car is clean and detailed in the garage.

    @qbrozen said:

    @28firefighter said:
    I can’t be without a car for 8-12 weeks. I’d want to sell the Jeep now to capitalize on the high offer. A toyo dealer offered me $57k…

    I know it is hard to resist, but look at it this way: if the jeep value drops in the next 10 weeks, so will the toyo.

    Unless this offer can’t be replicated by any of the usual suspects. How much higher is it than your 2nd best offer?

    It’s a fair point. About $3k higher.

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