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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    breld said:
    Hey Q - this one is a little odd for being so new:

    2017 Dodge Durango R/T
    5,000 miles
    Silver over black
    Every option - tech group, sunroof, captains chairs, DVD system, "blacktop" package.

    Apparently traded in here in CO at a Mercedes dealer.  

    Any clue on what the dealership would have paid on such a thing?
    about $36k
    Thanks! So their $41.5k asking price is probably a couple grand high - agreed?
    Yup

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    mill0048 said:

    qbrozen said:


    mill0048 said:

    What a great thread! I've been reading page after page for almost an hour. But of course, I'm here on a mission:

    I want to sell my 2016 Mazda 3 S GT manual, 10k miles, metallic wiite, one-owner, no accidents, all stock and in well-loved excellent condition, so I can buy a 2017 BRZ Ltd, manual with performance package. What could I expect for dealer trade-in on the Mazda? I'm in South Florida (zip 33328).

    Bonus question: What's a good deal on the BRZ Ltd? I've seen many dealers in my area offer internet pricing of $28.5k right off the bat.

    Looking at about $17.5k-$18k on yours.

    i am a bit confused on the brz. Truecar doesn't let me pick limited but I do have to choose alacantara interior to get the perf pack. Is your MSRP coming to $29,660? If so, Truecar shows $28,131 in your zip code.
    Thanks Q and StickGuy! Yeah, the MSRP is just under $30k for the BRZ based on the MFG site and what I'm seeing in the online ads before internet discounts.

    It's just a shame. The 3 is so good at being a great car, but there's no passion in the drive-train. It's smooth, polished, and has good performance, but has a low red-line and too much squat and dive in the suspension. It's just not the experience that screams, "Drive me!"

    Thank again guys!

    I like the "DRIVE ME!" type cars. The way you felt/feel about your Mazda 3 is exactly how I felt about my '03 Accord Coupe V6 when I got it. On one hand it was truly kind of quick with the V6, but the suspension and personality of the car just didn't engage me into turning into an enthusiast driver. It was just fun to be able to pass slow moving traffic with the quickness, but it didn't beg to be taken to curvy roads.

    The '06 Audi A3 (with sport package/lowered suspension) changed all of that for me.
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  • club619club619 Member Posts: 122
    Looking for trade value for the following:
    2014 F150 FX4 SuperCrew
    black leather interior/gray exterior, heated/ventilated front seats, moonroof, nav, power sliding rear window, running boards, 20" wheels, V8 engine, sony sound system with subwoofer, backup cam, maybe more options...just can't think of anything else.

    Currently has 13.5k miles, and still have the original tires with ~2k in the garage (replaced them with beefier ATR's).

    It's currently leased with 5 remaining payments of $455 and no disposition fee. Located in Dallas, TX area: 75070.

    Thanks!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493
    club619 said:
    Looking for trade value for the following: 2014 F150 FX4 SuperCrew black leather interior/gray exterior, heated/ventilated front seats, moonroof, nav, power sliding rear window, running boards, 20" wheels, V8 engine, sony sound system with subwoofer, backup cam, maybe more options...just can't think of anything else. Currently has 13.5k miles, and still have the original tires with ~2k in the garage (replaced them with beefier ATR's). It's currently leased with 5 remaining payments of $455 and no disposition fee. Located in Dallas, TX area: 75070. Thanks!
    4WD or 2WD?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    Pretty sure the FX4 is 4X4 only

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    club619 said:
    Looking for trade value for the following: 2014 F150 FX4 SuperCrew black leather interior/gray exterior, heated/ventilated front seats, moonroof, nav, power sliding rear window, running boards, 20" wheels, V8 engine, sony sound system with subwoofer, backup cam, maybe more options...just can't think of anything else. Currently has 13.5k miles, and still have the original tires with ~2k in the garage (replaced them with beefier ATR's). It's currently leased with 5 remaining payments of $455 and no disposition fee. Located in Dallas, TX area: 75070. Thanks!
    Apparently those came with 5.0 or 6.2. Which is yours?

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  • mill0048mill0048 Member Posts: 4
    I feel you Andres3. I traded my 9 year old Mazdaspeed 3 in for the standard 3 because some costly repairs were nearing and I knew I wouldn't get it back. With the glowing reviews I thought it would be perfect for my needs. However, the sporty itch still needs scratching. I dig the A3's; very nice cars.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,325
    I had a lightly modded MS3 for 8 years, and I was one and done with FWD. I hoped the rumored 300 hp AWD MS3 would see the light of day, but no such luck...

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  • club619club619 Member Posts: 122
    edited March 2017
    qbrozen said:


    club619 said:

    Looking for trade value for the following:
    2014 F150 FX4 SuperCrew
    black leather interior/gray exterior, heated/ventilated front seats, moonroof, nav, power sliding rear window, running boards, 20" wheels, V8 engine, sony sound system with subwoofer, backup cam, maybe more options...just can't think of anything else.

    Currently has 13.5k miles, and still have the original tires with ~2k in the garage (replaced them with beefier ATR's).

    It's currently leased with 5 remaining payments of $455 and no disposition fee. Located in Dallas, TX area: 75070.

    Thanks!

    Apparently those came with 5.0 or 6.2. Which is yours?

    5.0L, and yes @nyccarguy it is 4WD
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Somewhere in the $28k-29k zip code

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    big PUs seem odd to me. Huge discounts to sell new, but then they never seem to depreciate.

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  • club619club619 Member Posts: 122
    qbrozen said:

    Somewhere in the $28k-29k zip code

    Zip is 75070. Would that affect it very much?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    You did say Texas. And, yes, it helped it a little, actually. It would have been a hard 28 elsewhere.

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  • fase2988fase2988 Member Posts: 14
    2016 nissan maxima SR 16,000 miles 10/10 condition
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    need to know color and location.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    Jay Leno's entire car collection trade-in value?
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  • fase2988fase2988 Member Posts: 14
    Bordeaux black NY
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    $23k-$23.5k

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  • club619club619 Member Posts: 122
    qbrozen said:

    You did say Texas. And, yes, it helped it a little, actually. It would have been a hard 28 elsewhere.

    being new to the forum, can I ask how this value was determined? I've gotten a couple of offers for $31k already so 28-29 seems low to me. Thanks!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    edited March 2017
    Dealer auction results where trucks like yours are fetching between $29k-$30k. If you have a dealer willing to pay more for yours than similar units at auction, you should jump on it.

    It happens. It is the carmax way of doing business, too (sometimes). A dealer steps up on the trade because they want it for themselves. If they bought it at auction for $30k, for example, they pay fees and transport and clean it up, etc, bringing them to $31k anyway. Obviously, however, more often than not, they pay $1k back of auction value on a trade so they can get rid of it at auction themselves, if they need to.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    either that, or if it is part of a trade in deal they can be showing an overallowance (basically giving more for the trade but adding that to the selling price of the new one). As a wise man once said, "the only difference, is the difference:.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    For my uncle, who at 89 yrs old definitely does not need two vehicles.

    2014 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.4
    FWD
    White exterior/beige leather interior
    Has Popular and Premium packages which include:
    Leather
    Heated Seats
    Power seat
    Blind Spot detection
    Roof rails
    yada, yada, yada

    3675 miles (nope, not a typo)
    Condition: As new
    Location: Lexington, KY

    Thanks!!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    So not a trade?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    qbrozen said:

    So not a trade?

    No... either a private sale, or he might hit up CarMax, as he has one nearby.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    So is it a Premium model?? I see a 2.4 or a 2.4 Premium.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    It's a 2.4 with the Premium equipment package ($3200 option).

    So, not sure how that computes. I'm looking at the window sticker

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    ha. well, so much for that. there are no listings for premium anyway. I guess nobody knows what it means.

    there was 1 low mileage example at only $16k and then 2 at just over $18k, 1 at $17k, and 1 at a whopping $20k. So where does that leave us? I dunno. I'm gonna say the good color combo and exceptionally low mileage should put it up there. Let's call it $18k. PP? I guess $21,999 and see what happens.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    Not bad. Thanks for the help.

    I always wonder how many Sports get mis-reported as regular Santa Fe.
    Confusing

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    if it was local, and I was at the point of needing a car, I would be interested. That was my 2nd choice when I got the RDX. Would be a fine 2nd car for my use.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    Locally, seven listings with under 30K miles on Cars.com
    17.6 to 21K asking (all at dealers)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    got a carmax? Smells like a perfect unit for them.

    tough sell private sale though. Well into the needing financing territory, and possibly having a trade. Both of which are difficult for an individual.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    Q, another one. 2009 Altima. 4 door. I think the base model (S?) whatever that was. Doing it off memory, but basic equipment. 4 cyl, silver, no roof. Good shape, clean carfax I believe. Only about 45,000 miles. Upstate NY (or possibly NYC burbs).

    Estate car, so figure going to some sort of dealer, but could get put out there on CL, so feel free to suggest a private sale in addition to wholesale (won't be trading in on anything).

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,574
    stickguy said:

    got a carmax? Smells like a perfect unit for them.

    tough sell private sale though. Well into the needing financing territory, and possibly having a trade. Both of which are difficult for an individual.

    Yeah, that $15K+ area is tough. Plus, he is 89.

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  • fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    fushigi said:

    qbrozen said:


    $8k

    Thanks. I was hoping it'd be closer to $9K but is still pretty reasonable. I'll get a Carmax quote on Tuesday to corroborate and probably see the Infiniti dealer Thursday.
    So, Infiniti dealer was between $7500-8K but Carmax was much more generous at $9500. They said that it would basically need a detailing and virtually no reconditioning for them to put it out to sell. I can see why people like Carmax; the whole process with them was painless, no pressure, and exactly as it should be.

    My new ride is a '17 QX60 (Premium, Premium Plus, and Deluxe Tech packages). Got a little over $8K off MSRP putting it over $4K under invoice.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @fushigi. Congrats on both ends of the deal.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,824
    fushigi said:
    $8k
    Thanks. I was hoping it'd be closer to $9K but is still pretty reasonable. I'll get a Carmax quote on Tuesday to corroborate and probably see the Infiniti dealer Thursday.
    So, Infiniti dealer was between $7500-8K but Carmax was much more generous at $9500. They said that it would basically need a detailing and virtually no reconditioning for them to put it out to sell. I can see why people like Carmax; the whole process with them was painless, no pressure, and exactly as it should be. My new ride is a '17 QX60 (Premium, Premium Plus, and Deluxe Tech packages). Got a little over $8K off MSRP putting it over $4K under invoice.
    Congrats!  Enjoy the ride!
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    stickguy said:
    Q, another one. 2009 Altima. 4 door. I think the base model (S?) whatever that was. Doing it off memory, but basic equipment. 4 cyl, silver, no roof. Good shape, clean carfax I believe. Only about 45,000 miles. Upstate NY (or possibly NYC burbs). Estate car, so figure going to some sort of dealer, but could get put out there on CL, so feel free to suggest a private sale in addition to wholesale (won't be trading in on anything).
    $3k-3500 trade. I guess about $5k PP but asking $5495

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    ouch. Heck, if was about to be carless, I would take it for that. And I want absolutely no part of it. But I am cheap.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    I can't believe I'm asking this ....

    2016 VW Jetta SE. Base trim, with automatic. Dark grey with black cloth interior. 3400 miles. Denver, CO.

    Car is practically new, given the miles. No hits, runs, or errors.

    What would be the trade value?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    No. ;b

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    similar car with 3k sold for $11k, but then a series of 5 with under 10k sold for $12k-$15k. No idea why such a discrepancy except the $11k was in NJ and the rest were in far warmer climates.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    qbrozen said:

    similar car with 3k sold for $11k, but then a series of 5 with under 10k sold for $12k-$15k. No idea why such a discrepancy except the $11k was in NJ and the rest were in far warmer climates.

    Ugh - but, about what I figured.

    Could always try CarMax, since they've got a G37x I could be interested in.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    Michaell said:

    qbrozen said:

    similar car with 3k sold for $11k, but then a series of 5 with under 10k sold for $12k-$15k. No idea why such a discrepancy except the $11k was in NJ and the rest were in far warmer climates.

    Ugh - but, about what I figured.

    Could always try CarMax, since they've got a G37x I could be interested in.
    Speaking of which, how much is CarMax overcharging for this?

    https://www.carmax.com/car/14025914

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    its about $4k above auction value.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    qbrozen said:

    its about $4k above auction value.

    Thanks!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    edited March 2017

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    They range from $19.5k-$20.5k

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    of the 2, the 2015 is better deal. Not much more $ to gain 2 years and 15,000 miles back.

    and maybe you will be lucky and they will swap you out of the Jetta for nothing OOP. No equity of course.

    and I am thinking that Mrs. Michael is about to go all Mrs. Sandman on you!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,185
    stickguy said:

    of the 2, the 2015 is better deal. Not much more $ to gain 2 years and 15,000 miles back.

    and maybe you will be lucky and they will swap you out of the Jetta for nothing OOP. No equity of course.

    and I am thinking that Mrs. Michael is about to go all Mrs. Sandman on you!

    Oh trust me - this is a totally rogue operation.

    Really, more like torture.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,344
    sign up to my favorite motto to live by.

    "It is better to ask forgiveness than to ask for permission"

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