Real-World Trade-In Values

nyccarguy

jasonk43 said:

nyccarguy said:

jasonk43 said:

Left knee problems. Living in NYC doesn’t help.

Did you buy the WRX or lease it?

Lease. My predicament is a result of rolling negative equity into negative equity into negative equity. Automotive ADD and never putting money down. 

What's your payment?

jasonk43

nyccarguy said:

jasonk43 said:

nyccarguy said:

jasonk43 said:

Left knee problems. Living in NYC doesn’t help.

Did you buy the WRX or lease it?

Lease. My predicament is a result of rolling negative equity into negative equity into negative equity. Automotive ADD and never putting money down. 

What's your payment?

$39X.00 a month. 27 months remaining.

kyfdx

jasonk43 said:

nyccarguy said:

jasonk43 said:

nyccarguy said:

jasonk43 said:

Left knee problems. Living in NYC doesn’t help.

Did you buy the WRX or lease it?

Lease. My predicament is a result of rolling negative equity into negative equity into negative equity. Automotive ADD and never putting money down. 

What's your payment?

$39X.00 a month. 27 months remaining.

Put it on Swapalease, and offer a $2700 incentive for someone to take it over. Ask Mom for the $2700, if you have to... then, start clean. (except for the $2700 you owe Mom)

qbrozen

I think $350/mo and $0 out of pocket for a wrx would be reasonable. So whatever your $4x per month more times 27 mos should be the incentive you offer.

heck, a dealer by me is advertising $315 for 36mos but after fees and cap reduction rolled in, that would be more like $390 plus 7% tax for a tota monthly of about $415 or so.

breld

Local Volvo dealer has this on their lot:

2017 XC90 T8 (hybrid) AWD
20k miles
Blue with black guts
22” wheel upgrade

Can’t tell for sure, but I’m sure it’s pretty loaded.

Any of these going through auction?

gotgt3

Could I get your opinion on the trade in value of a Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 2015 which has low miles (should be around 36k is under 28k), only the driver seat was ever used, excellent condition. Has Nav and all the other bells and whistles and overland tyres.

stickguy

22's on a Volvo? When will the madness end?

sounds like a nice car though but would prefer a different color interior. I drove a more normal version. It was nice. But more bulky than I care for. I really liked the XC60 though that I sat in. would like to take one of them for a spin some day.

qbrozen

breld said:

Local Volvo dealer has this on their lot:

2017 XC90 T8 (hybrid) AWD
20k miles
Blue with black guts
22” wheel upgrade

Can’t tell for sure, but I’m sure it’s pretty loaded.

Any of these going through auction?

Excellence, Inscription, or R-design?

qbrozen

gotgt3 said:

Could I get your opinion on the trade in value of a Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 2015 which has low miles (should be around 36k is under 28k), only the driver seat was ever used, excellent condition. Has Nav and all the other bells and whistles and overland tyres.

Location? Colors? And previous paintwork?

breld

qbrozen said:

breld said:

Local Volvo dealer has this on their lot:

2017 XC90 T8 (hybrid) AWD
20k miles
Blue with black guts
22” wheel upgrade

Can’t tell for sure, but I’m sure it’s pretty loaded.

Any of these going through auction?

Excellence, Inscription, or R-design?

Whoops - sorry. It's an R-design.

qbrozen

Exactly one has gone through auction. Silver, 10k miles, and hit $55.5k. That may even be a bit low because Inscriptions are in the 57 range and Excellences are mid 60s.

breld

Wow! So their asking price of $57k is actually decent. Just read a review on the hybrid, and not so sure it’s worth the premium. But I was curious.

Something a little more of a “normal” XC90:

2016 XC90 Momentum

So, a 2016 XC90 T6 Momentum
Gray over Amber
14k miles
Looks like it has upgraded wheels and the convenience package, as well as the Momentum plus package. Maybe the vision package, but can’t tell from the pics.

They’re asking $44k - what’s auction on something like that?

stickguy

that poor Durango is not long for this world. Q might as well supply the trade in value for that one too, since that question has to be coming soon!

28firefighter

stickguy said:

that poor Durango is not long for this world. Q might as well supply the trade in value for that one too, since that question has to be coming soon!

I give it til Sunday. 

breld

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

qbrozen

breld said:

Wow! So their asking price of $57k is actually decent. Just read a review on the hybrid, and not so sure it’s worth the premium. But I was curious. Something a little more of a “normal” XC90: 2016 XC90 Momentum So, a 2016 XC90 T6 Momentum Gray over Amber 14k miles Looks like it has upgraded wheels and the convenience package, as well as the Momentum plus package. Maybe the vision package, but can’t tell from the pics. They’re asking $44k - what’s auction on something like that?

You realize that has 41k, not 14, right?

Nothing at auction had quite that many miles, but $34-35k looks to be about the number. So $44k is NUTSO!

EDIT: hmmmm...well someone is dyslexic. The carfax would indicate 14k not 41. Add $3k in that case.

nyccarguy

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

Stick with the Dodge

corvette

nyccarguy said:

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

Stick with the Dodge

I kind of agree here. The XC is nice, but doesn’t have a Hemi. 

Michaell

corvette said:

nyccarguy said:

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

Stick with the Dodge

I kind of agree here. The XC is nice, but doesn’t have a Hemi. 

Every time I see @breld, that's what I tell him.

Mr_Shiftright

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

Yes but that one-year relationship has spent 6 months in therapy.

andres3

corvette said:

nyccarguy said:

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

Stick with the Dodge

I kind of agree here. The XC is nice, but doesn’t have a Hemi. 

If his Durango has been reliable for him, I say keep it. A reliable Dodge? That's got some marketability!

If I was guaranteed a durable reliable low-cost ownership experience from Dodge or Chrysler, I could give them consideration for future purchases.

Trust and honesty are the problems for sales at those companies.

The product itself was obviously good, or else we wouldn't have bought one. It just needed to run. When it runs, it was a nice product (if I forgive the thousand rattles).

xwesx

breld said:

If I last until March it’ll be a year with the Durango - c’mon, that’s pretty good for me!

That's one helluva big 'if'', breld! Hhahaa

breld

LOL on all the comments!  

Yes, I haven’t had any issues whatsoever with the Durango, and do enjoy driving it still.  

So, given that, I suppose I should try to resist the urge and stay the course.  

28firefighter

breld said:

LOL on all the comments!  

Yes, I haven’t had any issues whatsoever with the Durango, and do enjoy driving it still.  

So, given that, I suppose I should try to resist the urge and stay the course.  

Sunday

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

breld said:

LOL on all the comments!  

Yes, I haven’t had any issues whatsoever with the Durango, and do enjoy driving it still.  

So, given that, I suppose I should try to resist the urge and stay the course.  

Sunday

Kid's basketball game tomorrow?

gotgt3

qbrozen said:

gotgt3 said:

Could I get your opinion on the trade in value of a Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 2015 which has low miles (should be around 36k is under 28k), only the driver seat was ever used, excellent condition. Has Nav and all the other bells and whistles and overland tyres.

Location? Colors? And previous paintwork?

PA, Grey, what do you mean previous paintwork? Nothing has been modified. it's like new

explorerx4

@gotgt3,
Any repairs, along with all the other specifics are good information for a better response to your request.

qbrozen

gotgt3 said:

gotgt3 said:

Could I get your opinion on the trade in value of a Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 2015 which has low miles (should be around 36k is under 28k), only the driver seat was ever used, excellent condition. Has Nav and all the other bells and whistles and overland tyres.

Location? Colors? And previous paintwork?

PA, Grey, what do you mean previous paintwork? Nothing has been modified. it's like new

As in body damage that has ever been repaired/replaced and painted.

networkdad

Looking for some input on trade-in value for

Zip 76210
2014 Ford Explorer Limited, 2WD
93k miles
White Exterior
Nearly all options on the inside- quad buckets, power 3rd row, heated steering, cooled seats, towing, etc
No dents, no accidents, good tires

One dealer offered $15k - I think there's more room though. - Thank you

qbrozen

I don't do zip codes. Help me out here.

fushigi

Denton, TX for 76210

nyccarguy

I personally can't wait to hear Craig's take on this post.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

I don't do zip codes. Help me out here.

Google?

qbrozen

kyfdx said:

I don't do zip codes. Help me out here.

Google?

Hey, start paying me and I'll do the extra legwork. ;b

qbrozen

networkdad said:

Looking for some input on trade-in value for Zip 76210 2014 Ford Explorer Limited, 2WD 93k miles White Exterior Nearly all options on the inside- quad buckets, power 3rd row, heated steering, cooled seats, towing, etc No dents, no accidents, good tires One dealer offered $15k - I think there's more room though. - Thank you

$14.5k for the v6 and $15.5k for the 4-cyl. So sounds like the dealer is right there in either case, either $500 generous or $500 shy.

jasonk43

qbrozen said:

I think $350/mo and $0 out of pocket for a wrx would be reasonable. So whatever your $4x per month more times 27 mos should be the incentive you offer.

heck, a dealer by me is advertising $315 for 36mos but after fees and cap reduction rolled in, that would be more like $390 plus 7% tax for a tota monthly of about $415 or so.

Subaru finances through Chase. Chase doesn't permit swap-a-lease. My original deal WAS $352 sign and drive, taxes and fees rolled in, but then the negative equity from the prior car was rolled in. Oh well, I guess I'll just bite the bullet and take it on the chin.

andres3

jasonk43 said:

qbrozen said:

I think $350/mo and $0 out of pocket for a wrx would be reasonable. So whatever your $4x per month more times 27 mos should be the incentive you offer.

heck, a dealer by me is advertising $315 for 36mos but after fees and cap reduction rolled in, that would be more like $390 plus 7% tax for a tota monthly of about $415 or so.

Subaru finances through Chase. Chase doesn't permit swap-a-lease. My original deal WAS $352 sign and drive, taxes and fees rolled in, but then the negative equity from the prior car was rolled in. Oh well, I guess I'll just bite the bullet and take it on the chin.

Taking it on the chin?

I would look at negative equity as just finally paying the piper.

Taking it on the chin is paying $550+ because you missed a yellow light by 1/2 second (no hazard), or failing to make a complete stop at a Stop Sign (again, no hazard; I've never, in all my years violated someone's right-of-way at a 4-way stop), this one will cost $310 due by 4/5/18 (long grace period thanks to hired lawyer; of course, if I would have paid the ticket back in May of last year it would have been $280).

Meanwhile I have to battle the East County Court as they are trying to break the law via the "administrative/clerical error" method by taking away my request for the County Seat. The vehicle code makes it clear it isn't a request for a right to be granted, but a DEMAND for the law to be followed. Read CA VC 40502(b). Case law supports this assertion.

Taking it on the chin will be the East Country court saying something silly like "my case will be unharmed and due process will not be violated by this infraction on the part of the court." We shall see if they do the right thing, or give me an uppercut to the chin; sending off a letter today re-asserting my request for the County Seat, which of course, was granted by the Officer.

Reason for the problem? Likely that the clerk overlooked the cross-out squiggly lines for the East County Court, and ignored the lines for the County Seat Court. It wasn't an option for the Court to choose either or!

jasonk43

I think a 2018 Ram 1500 Laramie 39/10k (I know, I'll have that dreaded 3 months with no warranty), for $41X per month (sign and drive) before my ~6,000 in negative equity isn't a bad deal. It's just unfortunate it will be... ohhh say $582 sign and drive.

Mr_Shiftright

Q--you got anything at all on a 2002-2004 Audi RS6?

robr2

Been a while folks - 2000 Odyssey finally is saying no mas. Looking for something that my daughter can drive to school until she leaves for college and then my wife and I can something fine. Came across this:

2012 Fiat 500 Pop
In Providence RI - I'm in Boston
21K miles
Red w red/black non leather, not cloth interior
Alloy wheels
tires about 50%
no hits, runs, or errors
super clean save for wear on the ecru steering wheel
Carfax is clean except for date of trade in - should be 2017, not 2015
Asking $6988 but seemed amiable to $6500.

Here's the link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=476847011&zip=01803&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=01803&listingTypes=used&startYear=1981&sortBy=mileageASC&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=FIAT500&makeCodeList=FIAT&searchRadius=50&listingTypes=used&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=FIAT500&makeCodeList=FIAT&searchRadius=50

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--you got anything at all on a 2002-2004 Audi RS6?

I don't show '02 or '04, but here is '03

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--you got anything at all on a 2002-2004 Audi RS6?

I don't show '02 or '04, but here is '03

qbrozen

robr2 said:

Been a while folks - 2000 Odyssey finally is saying no mas. Looking for something that my daughter can drive to school until she leaves for college and then my wife and I can something fine. Came across this: 2012 Fiat 500 Pop In Providence RI - I'm in Boston 21K miles Red w red/black non leather, not cloth interior Alloy wheels tires about 50% no hits, runs, or errors super clean save for wear on the ecru steering wheel Carfax is clean except for date of trade in - should be 2017, not 2015 Asking $6988 but seemed amiable to $6500. Here's the link: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=476847011&zip=01803&referrer=/cars-for-sale/searchresults.xhtml?zip=01803&listingTypes=used&startYear=1981&sortBy=mileageASC&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=FIAT500&makeCodeList=FIAT&searchRadius=50&listingTypes=used&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=FIAT500&makeCodeList=FIAT&searchRadius=50

About $5k at the block, so $6500 would be a good deal

Mr_Shiftright

Thanks Q---well you can certainly see how the value for those just tanks when the miles are high! Alas, the fate of most modern German "hot-rods" that aren't so hot anymore.

euler74

Can you please evaluate if this is a good offer for purchase (My friend got in touch with a wholesaler) :
Year: 2010
Make: Nissan
Model: Altima Coupe (2dr)
Trim: 3.5 SR (V6 270HP engine)
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 71200
Color: Red
Condition: Very Good - inspected and cleaned, minor wear and tear


Price: $9100 (all inclusive)

Also, how reliable is this car/engine?

sebring95

Here's another Avalon for you...

2013 Avalon Touring 59k miles, dark red, good condition, newer tires, central ohio. Thanks!

qbrozen

euler74 said:

Can you please evaluate if this is a good offer for purchase (My friend got in touch with a wholesaler) : Year: 2010 Make: Nissan Model: Altima Coupe (2dr) Trim: 3.5 SR (V6 270HP engine) Transmission: 6-speed manual Mileage: 71200 Color: Red Condition: Very Good - inspected and cleaned, minor wear and tear Price: $9100 (all inclusive) Also, how reliable is this car/engine?

Where are you located? It just has to be this one I see purchased 12/17 at a california auction. It was deemed to be in very poor condition and brought $5800. Doesn't sound like much of a wholesaler.

Should be pretty reliable, I think. I know that combination in RWD applications is robust, if thirsty. Not completely sure on the transverse setup, however. Not really my thing.

qbrozen

sebring95 said:

Here's another Avalon for you... 2013 Avalon Touring 59k miles, dark red, good condition, newer tires, central ohio. Thanks!

About $13k or so. Figure $15.5k-$16k fair purchase.

tifighter

Here's one - 2015 A3 Cabriolet, premium plus, 2.0T quattro, 30k miles, silver over black guts. What do you think a dealer may have into this one?

28firefighter

tifighter said:

Here's one - 2015 A3 Cabriolet, premium plus, 2.0T quattro, 30k miles, silver over black guts. What do you think a dealer may have into this one?

If it's the one I saw on AutoTrader, it looks competitively priced.