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It is very similar to the CAP Plug at:
Fumotovalve is another one for the same purpose,
but double the price of the Sure Drain. I change my own oil, and they seem to be a good way to keep from dropping the plug when you remove it, or getting hot oil on your hand, and faster/easier.
By the way, I saw "P"'s advertised at about that price this morning too, but the fine print says that is after a $1000 downpayment or trade, and does not include destination charge. That brings it back up to about $23000. Still a great buy, but as usual you have to watch out for the fine print.kcm8419,I checked Millenia and some others on the Fram site, and their application charts only go through the 2000 models on the ones I checked including Accord and Camry. It looks like they have not updated to include 2001 and 2002 models.Frank
1-Some comparisons are subjective, but I find the Millenia impeccably assembled and finished, both inside and out. It has from about 5 to 10 cubic feet less interior cabin space than the other cars you mention, but much of this is a result of styling that has a lot of tumblehome on the sides, and a steeply raked windshield. The front seats are within an inch in width of the other cars. I find the front seats very comfortable, and the driving position not only good, but airy, with great visibility. The back seat is limited in width by the fold down center console, which also opens a ski passthrough to the trunk. For kids the back seat would be great, larger teenagers and adults might find it a little short on legroom. The moonroof is standard equipment, and does cut into headroom a couple of inches.
2-Most of us here seem to agree the reason for the hugh markdowns, is that the Millenia started out to be the entry level car in a new Mazda luxury car division called Amati. The new division never got off the ground, and Millenia was sold as a top of the line Mazda, and never got the promotion of the Lexus, Infinity, and Acura's. Plus not having a seperate dealer network for the luxury brand worked against it. It has nothing to do with the quality of the car, which Consumer Report calls outstanding in their April '02 New Car Issue. Carpoint, at
shows all models since '96 to have top notch reliability. The reason for the slight downrating on the '95 and '96 engine, was a problem with sparkplug wires, which was a cheap (about $100), and easy repair. I have read of a little bit of a problem with the "S" model which is supercharged, having a blue oil smoke on startup after it accumulates some fairly high milage, which comes from the supercharger passing a little bit of oil. Most owners of "S"es love their cars though.
3-I am averaging a little over 22 mpg overall, with a low of about twenty city and about 27 to 28 mpg on the highway. My car is the unsupercharged "P" (for premium) model, and I have run 87 octane gasoline since new with no problem. The manual allows this, but recommends 93 octane for the "P", and requires 93 octane for the "S".
4-The engine is non-interference, using a timing belt.
5-It is manufactured in Japan with almost 100% Japanese sourced parts.
6-2002 is the Millenia's last year, and Mazda is coming out with two new models, the Mazda 6, which I think will kind of overlap the also discontinued 626, and the Millenia. The new RX-8 will be an upscale car, also partially replacing the Millenia.
7-$30000, no way. You can easily buy the basic "P" which is far from basic for under $22000, or the "S" for less than $25000.
I really believe these Millenia's at the prices you can get are the best kept secret, and the best bargain you can find in a new car. They do have a somewhat high depreciation, but better than most "American" cars. But at the discounts available that is completely moot for me. If you plan to keep a new car more than say 4 years, it is of no concern at all.
Happy car hunting. If that's not an oxymoron.
Here is the link for Carpoint Reliability Ratings:
Look at Millenia:
Now try Camry:
Uh, which did you say were most reliable?
Also, pick up the April '02 issue of Consumer Reports, and look at all the pretty red dots and checkmarks regarding the Millenia. Now turn to page 55 of the same issue and read this, "Depreciation is steep, BUT RELIABILITY HAS BEEN O-U-T-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G!!!!!!"
Carpoint gets their information from professional mechanics, and CR from owners. That pretty well covers the possibilities.
Try every reliability ratings source you can find, and you will see the same results. As for CR's sarcastic remarks about Millenia, you will find the same putdown aimed at virtually every car they list, including Bentleys, BMW's and Lexus. Especially if the basic car is more than two model years old. They seem to feel that anything over two years old is an antique, and probably feel the same about anybody over thirty, which includes me.Millenia is a very good, and extremely reliable car.
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