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Mazda Millenia



  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    good info on how not to buy a car.
  • I have a 99 Millenia S. It pulled to one direction from the day I purchased it(new). The dealer did a couple of alignments, and then said I had a radial tire pull. At that point, I had to go to a tire dealer (Big O) for the tire warranty. They couldn't find the bad tire, and replaced one at random to get rid of me. The car didn't pull anymore until I rotated the tires. I then unrotated them and wore them out. I then purchaced new tires all the way around and haven't had a problem since.

    Are you sure about your warranty? It should go to 3 yr/36k miles? At least that is what mine was.

    Good luck,
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    "good info on how not to buy a car."

    You might be right if you want to pay too much. I've bought about 20 that way and it has worked very well.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I'm not saying it doesnt work for you...but being confrontational is not the best way for most people to get a fair deal.
  • fwatsonfwatson Posts: 639
    " Don't be angry or threatening, just firm."

    Please take note of that from my post. I did not advocate being confrontational. Only to not allow yourself to be run over by high pressure salespeople, which includes almost all of them, and keep yourself in control of the negotiations. They are trained to take advantage of any weakness you might show, so you have to be equally prepared to resist their sales pitch. I have had to actually walk away from some very beligerant salespeople to avoid a major argument. Before buying my newest car, my '01 MM, a Nissan salesman stood between me and the door and told me "you are not going to go to another dealer and tell them our deal". I of course walked out on him and never went back. Not all salespeople will do that, but almost all will lie, or if you prefer twist the truth in order to get your signature on that contract.

    I stick by my recommendation as to how to buy that new car.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    again, I say it's fine if it works for you...but very few car buyers are able to do what you advocate...I got no problem with a consumer using simple techniques to avoid the pushy salestypes...I am a hard closer so I know exactly what your trying to avoid. :)

    When a consumer is firm, thats fine as long as they are in the know and are realistic with their offers, like you seem to be. Short deal but do-able... But reality in the car biz is this...when people don't get what they want they usually resort to hissy fits or some sort. haha
    Thus your way of car buying quickly becomes confrontational.

    Had it happen today. I told a person "NO thank you I will pass on your offer"...and you should have seen how hysterical they got. You would stand up and say thank you but no deal and we would part as friends...but many buyers act like a first graders when they are told NO...haha
  • I don't know how it is over there, but here in SoCal, almost every dealership has a fleet person or internet department. Call them/email them for no-haggle price. Usually you will get a much better price than trying to haggle with a salesperson.

    Good Luck.

    BTW, fwatson is right, aim for about $21K for Millenia P and $25 for the S model. $22 is a bit much.
  • ziggiziggi Posts: 4
    I bought a used 97L recently and was given one key. Before I start looking for a remote transmitter, I need to know if my car even has a remote receiver. Does anybody know how I can tell that?
  • ziggiziggi Posts: 4
    I have read on this board that the 6-K service is quite pricy (>$1000). Perhaps one can save money by doing some of the work at home. Does anybody know what exactly is done at 60K miles?
  • ziggiziggi Posts: 4
    Some of the problems articulated on this board are quite scary for a new owner of a 97L. Does anybody have good stories of achieving high mileage 100K-200K with no problems at all??
    Just looking for some balance :-)
  • Dealers in New York are selling the Millenia "P" in the 19,000.00 range.

    Check out the Friday New York Post.11/22/02
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    They advertise at that price...but try to actually take delivery at that
  • Ok I got the drift- those weasels :)
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I am no fan of dealers who advertise prices that get the salesperson fired if they actually sell the "ad car" and this sounds like one of If you want the car at their ad price...go for it, its a great deal. But I bet they really make you work for it.

    Now that the mazda6 is in stock I have loaded up with additional Millenia's...In the past two weeks we have seen a big jump in Millenia sales and our sale prices have climbed quite a bit because of it. The discounts on the Millenia make the car very attractive compared to a fully loaded 6.
    I don't think its a better car just a great alternative to the 6.
  • Guys I have to share this with you-

    I was shopping around Saturday for my new ride and right now I have the following cars on my radar-Passat GLX 4-MOTION, INFINITI I35, AUDI A4 3.0, ACURA 3.2TL TYPE S and maybe the Millenia S if these choices does not satisfy.

    I went to the Passat dealer first,and you guys are not going to believe what happen.I did not tell the sales person I wanted to lease,so I negotiated a really good price for the car and then I told him I think I would rather lease for that capitalized cost of the car.

    He turns to me and tells me that it does not work that way, he has to use M.S.R.P for a capitalized cost to calculate the lease.At that time I was saying to myself,"does this guy sees idiot written all over me".
    I thanked him for his time and walked right out.

    Now,you guys tell me, is he for real or what?
  • setampsetamp Posts: 16
    I am trying to find a P in Pittsburgh but the price is coming in at $24k before tax and title. Anyone know of a dealer that is willing to deal? Also, does anyone know the actual Mazda incentives on this car. Dealers here seem to be working off invoice+profit-$5k Mazda incentives. There must be additional incentives to get the price down to $20k.

    Thanks in advance for your help.
  • tomekktomekk Posts: 310
    They are advertised for $20,900... with sticker 28,000 - I'd say you should be able to do that deal in Pittsburgh. Good luck.
  • setampsetamp Posts: 16
    If anyone can help with this, I am trying to figure out how the numbers work to get me to the $21k area. I am looking at a car with an MSRP of $29,195 (base + $520 destination and $600 all season package). The invoice is $26,960. The Mazda rebate is $5k so I am at $21,960 with the dealer making nothing but the holdback. Is there an additional rebate that takes this cost lower?
  • Hi,
    I only had troubles with my Millenia. Of course
    things broke down before a well--made automobile
    should. I maintained it as diligently as possible. I have a stack full of repair bills
    for all the car's major component systems. Unless
    Mazda has improved their quality, don't buy
    their product.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Sorry to hear about your troubles. Were you ever able to get Mazda to help you out with your repairs? BTW, when should a well made automobile break down?
  • rexx2rexx2 Posts: 1
    Hello, I just purchased a Millenia a week ago and just love it so far. For the price I couldnt find a car with soo many extras. But....hoping this will get better with time, appears to be a major gas guzzler. Is this common with new car and hopefully will get better mileage down the road?? thanks for any responses.
  • Rexx2,

    We've had our Millenia S about 3 or 4 weeks now. About an even mix of in town & freeway miles has returned 23.5 mi/gallon. Hope things improve for ya.

  • My wife has a '94 626LX V6. It only has 60K on it and she loves it. She did not anticipate replacing it for several years (when she retires and doesn't have to park in a school parking lot).I saw an ad in the local small town paper for a used Millenia. It was a good price. So we looked at it and at a 6 as a point of reference. Loved the Millenia (always have like it styling). We test drove the 6, and within a few miles we knew that this sporty (make that harsh) riding car was not for us. So she ended up buying a '01 Millenia P with 17K miles for $14,800.We've only had it for a few days but we are looking forward to many years and miles in a beautiful and comfortable car.
  • I was at the dealer last night and they had a 2002 Millenia P demo with 4000 miles on it. Their asking $18,900 for it. Is that a good price or should I negotiate down seeing that you can get new ones with zero miles for around $21,000?
  • Icable, I would suggest you take the deal! A dealer here in Atlanta has 12-15 of the 2002s on the lot, which seems like a large inventory to me. It is a decent sized dealer, but not huge. I haven't found any other dealers with as many. A similar sized dealer has zero 2002s. So I thought these guys might be willing to deal. The lowest they would go was invoice + $100 = $21,636. I balked. After reading the posts here and seeing deals people have gotten going back to the spring of '02, and knowing the model is discontinued and the Mazda6 is now out. Now I'm torn between the Mazda6, which I can get for around $500 under MSRP (MSRP is $20,600 on the 4 cyl with moonroof and auto trans), or the Millenia. Do I pay $1,500 more for the bells and whistles of the Millenia? Hmmm...
  • I have a white MM 2002. It has a couple of small holes in the paint job in the front of the car. Probably from small flying rocks. I was wondering what is the best way to repair the holes (which are very small--but still....).

    I've used the touch up paint that Mazda sells but it just ends up being a big "glob" of paint on top (similar to white out correction fluid on paper). Is there a better way to apply this. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
  • kcm8419kcm8419 Posts: 121
    This paint can be a real pain, it took me a few tries before I figured it out. When you use this touch-up paint I found out that you have to take off almost all the paint on this applicator. When you pull the bush out wipe it along the side as you pull it out to get the excess paint off of it so that you almost have nothing on it. Then when you go to put it on your car only put a drop on it, like an eye dropper. It will leave a little bubble on it, that is fine. When the paint dries over night it will dry flat and flush, this means you will not have a bubble. DO NOT try and brush this on it only makes a mess, speaking from experience. The key is to have virtually no paint on the applicator though.
    Good Luck.
  • I've found the best way is to buy a small very fine art paint brush at a craft or art store. The fine brush will only hold a very small amount of paint which is all you need.
  • I got two small ( about 1/4" long ) scratches on the top of my fender. They are pretty deep. The car has been washed & waxed since the scratches appeared. Is there some prep I should do to remove any wax in the scratches before I apply the touch-up paint?

  • I went over to the Mazda dealership in Milford on Saturday.I test drove the 6s auto and I have to say I was pretty much impressed with the handling and the power.The build/material was also impressive,unfortunately I will not be buying one.
    Personally, I don't think this is a Millenia replacement as these car magazines would make you beleive.I found it to be a little bit cramp in the back seat and something just seems to be missing.
    Maybe if I was 21, fresh out of college I would seriously consider this car,it's a whole lot of car for the price you are paying.Again, no disrespect to all you Mazda 6 enthusiast.
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