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I have a history of back pain and underwent surgery at the beginning of the year. I am particularly uncomfortable when driving. As both of my current vehicles (an 82 RX-7 and a 77 Ford Econoline van) are particularly hard on my back. I have test driven an Echo, but I would be interested in any feedback from others.
Since I had the cruise installed, and I've been able to shift my seating position, I haven't had any problems on trips up to 1 hr. I haven't taken any longer trips yet, but plan to take my lower back cushion as a precaution if I do.
I did a 3000 mile trip last fall in an F150 with a bench seat and found the lower back cushion was a lifesaver. I used it for an hour at a time with an hour without it in between and was able to drive up to 4 hours at a stretch.
Count me in !
For those interested the part number for the repair manual is RM750U. Part number for the EWD is EWD396U.
The item is Airplex Part Number is BG360S or BG360D (I am not sure what the difference is between the S and D). If any Canadian Echonians know of a web site or source or something it would be greatly appreciated!
Having gotten to "know" him from this message board, I would love to deal with Cliffy1, but since I am in Missouri and he is on the East Coast, it probably won't happen.
Well, you know what? The same sticker number is listed for the Echo in the ad this week that it was last week. And the Echo is described as a four door.
Just for grins, I am going to write this dealer and ask him what is going on. I have a feeling that they will claim that they could not change the ad because it will cost them more money.
person, like me, could cause more trouble
than the original problem. My wife knows
when I try to fix something in the house
she should go ahead and call the plumber,
carpenter, and electrician.
How about that !
Check it out at :
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/byMPG.htm
Anyway, I got the news on Friday... so I went to the dealer to pick another color. There're only Red, Gray and Green on the lot.... The gray looks classy but doesn't go very well with the cladding, plus it is not shine enough... So, I ended up with the Red one..... I really wish there's a Seaform Blue one, man, that's sad.
Anyway, I pay for $14,300 for my 4 dr manual Red Echo. It has upgrade package 1, 2, all weather guard, spoiler, floor mat, alloy wheel, wheel lock, and security package..... I will be picking up my Echo next saturday, after the thanksgiving holiday....
So, you guys out there who have Seaform Blue Echo, take good care of your baby, and if you want to sell it, sell it with higher price, it's going to become antique!!!
I am sorry you did not get your Seafoam Blue Echo. Are you sure you want the red one? You do know that you and Melody are going to have the same color, right? LOL.
I am going to go to Carsdirect.com and see if you got a good price. $14,300 is really close to what they want for the one I want them to special order. Yes, the same dealership.
I will post the results of my inquiry later.
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I learned a lot over there.
Thanks!
Moses, for a car like you are getting the CarsDirect.com price is $13,755 while the MSRP is $14,895 and that seems to make getting the car for $14,300 a good deal, BUT the invoice of your car is $13,360 which means the dealer is making about $940 off you. I think $13,860 would be a more realistic price. This allows the dealer $500 profit.
My roommate and I are headed to Strouds so I need to make this quick. Personally, I do not think that extended warranties are a good deal. Will possibly post more on this subject when I get back from dinner.
If you feel that you really need an EW, you might check into an insurance company's "mechanical breakdown insurance." MBI is what State Farm calls their offering. Perhaps you have heard the radio ads.
Call your insurance agent and see if they offer a similar product.
You might also plan to set aside an amount every month for car repair. Do this from day one while the car is still under warranty and when the car is out of warranty, you will have a nice just in case fund.
Before I bought it I also considered the Renault Megane Scenic and the Citroen Xsara Picasso. Both cars are a bit larger (and more expensive).
I own my Yaris for 2 months now and I already drove 5500 km. I just love the car.
I did realize I have same Echo color as Melody, but I just don't like the Gray one...
To get the cost of your car, I input the options you listed in that one post of yours. I am not sure why your figures and mine do not match since we both used Carsdirect.com.
$14,300 or $14,150 does not matter. I still think you are overpaying for your car. It is relatively late in the month and you might see if they will charge you less for the car.
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Welcome to Echo7. Welcome to North America. Well, okay, Australia too !
Your Yaris MPV sounds really interesting. Does it look like an Echo in front? I guess the back is more like a van for it to be called an MPV. How much space is there behind the back seat ? How much does it weigh ? What is your mileage to date. I'm running between 5 and 7 litres/100 km.
If you're going to drive mainly in the city, however, and drive carefully, you might beat the odds. For an environmentally friendly vehicle, with reasonable yearly mileage, it's hard to beat the Echo at any price. The only weakness noted, are related to the Echo's light weight, which is a necessary ingredient of a ecologically friendly vehicle.
By the way, the Echo has more interior space than many compacts, including the Corolla.
Re: Danny28's last post, I don't see why the Echo would be a problem as a first car. The only safety concerns were in the bogus Edmunds review, when there are maybe half a dozen other small cars of comparable weight (i.e. 1,900-2,300 pounds). If some future crash test results show otherwise there might be some basis for that; I doubt they will. There's some speculation about the Echo being flimsy in a fender bender, but flimsy compared to what? Again I doubt it's any different from the other new subcompacts; materials have gotten lighter in general. I also think the high seating position is a positive safety factor providing better vision in the world of SUVs, etc.
was appraised at about $549 (can't remember exact
amount) in damage - The plastic cover over the
bumper needs to be replaced - the right corner was
dented and cracked a little where the metal bumper
ends underneath the plastic. The hood has a few
scratches and my right headlight was shifted upward a little - not even cracked. I haven't gotten her to the body shop yet (husband was away and have been busy) hopefully there is no damage underneath.
The thing that got me with the appraisal was that
they listed under condition of the car "good."
Good! GOOD! It should have been excellent. I
bought the car in May, I've kept it clean and waxed AND there were no other dents or scratches other than what my little accident put there!
Insurance companies!
I have a copy of an email one of the dealers sent me and it has a breakdown of the options and they came up with an invoice price of $14,085 and this includes TDA.
One thing that I noticed is that Edmunds includes the destination charges, BUT does not include the TDA and I don't think that Carsdirect includes the TDA either.
I forgot about that charge when I was telling Moses that he was overpaying for the car. If the TDA is included, then he is paying about $684 above invoice. I know he has the coupon and will save $150 off that, but I still think that he needs to see if they will knock another $184 off the price.
I need to find out from the dealer who is offering me my Echo for $13,995 if that includes the TDA and what their documentation fee is.
Did I tell you that one internet rep at this dealership told me that she could only offer me the car at $500 above cost no matter how low any other dealer went. Now they are seemingly offering me the car at $191 above cost.
This same dealership also told me that they wanted a $1,000 non refundable deposit. I think I have scared them because now they are saying $500 and it would be refundable upon delivery of the car if I have outside financing.
I have never driven an Echo with a stick and my roommate is off call on Saturday so we are going to stop by two of the dealerships and see if they have a manual Echo for me to test drive. This will be two dealerships I have never been to and I want to see how I am treated.
My roommate does not know it yet, but we are going to go there on the pretext that she is the one interested in a car. While we are there, I am going to suddenly develop an interest in test driving an Echo.
We are now back on the waiting list and the dealer did not say anything about the color being discontinued. We called another dealer in Oregon and he said the color was still available. What's going on? I'm now wondering if these Toyota dealers really know what they are selling. If, in fact, the blue color is no longer available, we may have to make another decision.
I would suppose that the repair work that might be covered would have to take place at the Toyota dealership. Maybe at the same dealer? Or any Toyota dealer? Problem is that as you keep the car longer you surely may want to have work done at your local shop, or some other service facility. So that is a major negative for the warranty. Also keep in mind that your payment is now, but that your value received will come into play between 3 and 5 years from now. You could invest that money now and have a good bit extra by the time you need to spend it on those repairs.
However, the US Echo is growing on me terribibly, eventhough I know that the new Civic and new Corolla (Japan only) are more upscale.
I have the Dark Blue ECHO. I have over 1000 miles on it. I just love it. Can`t wait to drive it each and every day. I ordered it and it took 4 weeks to get if I remember right.