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Our Echo is the Seafoam Blue Metalic and we like it more and more. My second favorite is the metalic gold. If you are getting the body cladding, these are good colors that the black cladding looks good with.
Two of my friends have Echos (both first cars and both under 23) and love them. No complaints so far. One since April with about 6000 miles and one for about a month and 1200. Great little cars. Of course, that's no surprirse since they ARE Toyotas.
I'm a single 34 year old female living in Houston also, and I only pay $69 a month for full coverage. I have no tickets or accidents. My insurance company is Nationwide, and it was a special "first-time car-buyers" plan. I also have discounts for airbags and an alarm, and I'm fixing to take defensive driving to lower the rate even more.
Hope this helps! :-)
-gina-
I came across these site when looking for gallery:
Red
http://www.carweb.com/featurearticle/cw_article17.html
Seafoam Blue (I don't think this is the actual color, should be close to):
http://www.toyota.com/cgi-bin/top_frame.cgi?low_frame=echo%2fecho.tmpl&data_frame=%2fecho%2fintro_echo.html
Gold:
http://www.auho.com/autopics/html/picsToyotaEcho1.html
Silver:
http://www.auho.com/autopics/html/picsToyotaEcho2.html
Blue:
http://www.autospeed.com/C_articles/A_0665/P_1/article.html
Green (the top picture):
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/writers/lhill/2000echo.html
I really want a picture that can be used as my desktop wallpaper... oh my god... I'm addicted to Echo o o o o))))......
PS: I'm expecting to pay $14,250 for a 4 door, 5 speed manual, with upgrade package 1 and 2, the rear spoiler, floor mat, alloy wheel... am I paying too much? What should I expect?
Just wondering given that your hotmail address starts with kc, if you live in the Kansas City area like I do. If you do, would love to meet with you once you get your Echo. Good luck on finding an Echo in the Seafoam Blue. Especially if you do live in Kansas City since that seems to be the rarest color. Have seen a lot of silver ones though. Originally, I was going to get a Seafoam Blue sedan, but I have decided to get a Blacksand Pearl Sedan instead.
Djmick2,
I am a thirty seven year old male living in Kansas City. I have no tickets and no accidents for about ten plus years. I drive a 1993 Ford Escort Wagon with policy limits of 100k/300k/100k and low deductibles. My insurance is through American Family and I pay $62 a month. For the same limits, the insurance on my Echo is going to be about $70 a month. I think you are really getting hosed on insurance.
Shylocxs, your post brings back some fond memories. When I had a '92 Escort GT that was brand new, I thought I had to get a personal property tax statement from somewhere 90 miles away from where I was and be back in a very short time. This resulted in a trip where I took corners at 90 miles an hour and going down straightaways with the needle buried. I made the trip there and back in time, but the kicker was that because it was a new car, I did not need the personal property tax receipt after all.
The more I read about defensive driving courses, the more I want to take one. Does anyone know of any that are held close to Kansas City? Close would be up to four hours away.
Just a word of advice. If the car is strictly
an appliance to you, the Echo is the way to go(reliable, economical etc).
But if your freind's comments bother you in any way, wait and get something more muscular.
Still negative, but at least it contains some facts this time (well, discounting the used Civic spiel)
Also...fellow K.C. Echo owners! Next time the crazy women in the Red Echo waves at you, it is probably me.
"It sounds high, however, there are other variables--his liability limits and deductibles. I f he has low deductibles the premium is going to be higher regardless of other factors. But still you are talking about $2500 per year and that seems out of line.
A lot of people don't consider some things claims (which are) and others forget that there was another accident or claim."
You might have known this already, but I thought I would pass it along.
It has been sunny and raining and raining and raining....3 days in a row.. Hope we don't need a canoe...
Well the echo was checked out for safety, to see whether it was safe enough to drive on the road after the wrecho. She checked out with a few minor adjustments. Still haven't replaced the tires, but they are coming...(goodcarma) the recall issue, we have to have the headquarters ok.. our service rep had a puzzled look maybe that's why he mentioned the skidding..... That we're also looking into, since it was made in the time frame. What have we got to lose?
I have to admit... for being in a wrecho the Echo sure did well. The body just shifted, dent on the bumper,( actually its a hole) and the engine is doing great... a few plastic parts broken... but nothing to interfere... when we get the sliding issue conquered, I will be thoroughly impressed. She is back on the road till she goes in to get her body fixed.
Echoluvrst. ...don't worry you'll be famous... they all be quoting your quote in agreement... I know there is a high performance school here in AZ, had a friend that was a mechanic for it. Was supposed to get an afternoon on the track(free!) and speed legally and it never transpired.... pout
djmick2 - it's got to be the 18 year old thing..
The tax on e-mail is one of the oldest and longest lived hoaxes on the internet. That is the reason that big companies are not complaining.
Thanks Echoluvrst and Sonatafan, for saving me from taking up a cause that wasn't there... So there isn't a prop whatever? HUH?
By the way, someone had earlier mentioned scratches that showed black on the bumper of the echo... has anyone tried the touch-up paint Toyota offers that matches your car color, for the tiny booboos???
Mong1-I am also 24, I have a seafoam blue, 5 speed manual with body cladding and a spoiler. I think we have (or will have) basically the same car. I'm not a Chinese guy in Kansas, though:)
I'm not sure how good an idea it would be having a canoe on the roof anyway. Adding more topside weight and more flat area for crosswinds (either natural or from the BIG trucks) could cause problems.
While towing is not recommended for the Echo, if I had only one car available I'd strongly consider a lightweight trailer and hitch setup over roof mounting. The engine certainly has enough power and torque to handle a canoe and trailer. And with a manual transmission, proper shifting techniques would minimize any possibility of overheating the tranny. With an auto transmission, I'd be somewhat more careful about hills and the like. The only major issue I can see with a trailer setup is that with a light rear end, what would happen if a tire blew out on the trailer? Would it "whip" enough to tear the hitch off, or just make for a very interesting driving experrience? Hmmmm.
That said, I think a trailer hitch on the back of an Echo would be safer than a roof mount with the added advantage that you'd be able to put a lightweight boat propeller on the hitch (when not actually towing)and explain to people that the additional thrust from its rotation gives you three more miles per gallon.
I have been down to Kenny Thomas in Olathe where I took my test drive. I have also been to Superior Toyota and I have been in contact with Jay Wolfe Toyota, but have not been able to find the time to drive by. Jay Wolfe is closest to my house and has given me the best quote, but price and how I feel I will be treated after the sell is what will help me the most in determining a dealer. Recent ads make me want to look at Molle Toyota and Adams Toyota in Raytown. Thanks for the warning about the high documentation fee charged by Superior. That is one point I will be negotiating down at whatever dealer.
You can ignore the comments about the Echo looking girly. Those comments were made by our resident pot stirrer and I think he was making those comments to get a reaction.
Regarding the high insurance cost, how is your credit history? Most people don't know that bad credit can lead to higher insurance premiums. Really bad credit can lead to a denial of insurance in fact.
After we get our Echos, would really love to meet you and MelodyEcho. Perhaps we can start a KC Echo car club or something. : )
The Echo looks girly. It's not necesarely a bad thing. Lots of guys drive chick's cars. To each of his own.
How is your daydreaming about the Echo? I'm sure it always appears in pink.
Can anyone post a comparison of Echo and Civic
I am specifically comparing 4-dr Automatic Tx Echo
with DX Civic 4-dr Automatic Tx
Things that are important to me are :
1. Reliability
2. Safety
3. Fuel-economy
4. Cost
I do not care at all about Looks, fun-to-drive,
Frills such as Power-door,power-locks or cruise-control or even A/C
The lower cost of Echo is offset by the fact that it not available without all the frills (so I have to pay for all upgrade packages)
Also the impression i get is that Echo is susceptible to Cross-winds. Can it lose balance or go out-of-control if let's say I am driving at 60 to 70 mph on Dumbarton or Bay bridge and it is a windy day
You said Jay Wolf have best quote, could you tell me what price? Is my quote fair or can be better, $13600 for almost everything.
I have almost perfect credit. I used to pay my credit card clear until few months ago where I just graduated and was jobless... now that I got a job and I'm clearing my credit cards.... I don't own a lot though, just about 3 thousand.... not that bad right? Statistics show that average American own $6000 dept.
I'm watching Dateline NBC now and they talk about how SUV have problem with rollover... I'm glad I didn't get RAV4 (can't affort also)... I'm driving a 91 Tracker now and I always have problem with turns, especially during bad weather. Oh, this friday, I'm not sure which news program, either 20/20, or Dateline, they will talk about what should we know about hidden fee when buying a car... I'm going to buy a car on saturday so definately will not miss this show.... I believe is 20/20 because I remember Barbra Walter.
Hey, give me whatever quote you have, would you? I just don't have time to go to all the dealers. Thanks.
The Edmund True Market Value data was helpful. That and the information about the dealer holdback on the Edmund site.
I'd appreciate some thoughts on the matter. Thanks
PS This is an option on the Australian Echo.
(Sonatanfan) and (ernieecho) thanks for the input about the touch-up paint... I think after ours is fixed.. I am going to have my daughter carry it around.. For all those anonymous people that forget a car was there when they open their door.
I knew the mad scientist would have all the info concerning the canoe~~~ I laughed so hard about the boat propeller, I could just imagine it.**.
The power windows were not even available for our buy... something about the basic was what would be available, to have a lower price to attract people to buy.. After, the interest builds, then it would
be more readily available in the dealerships....
was this explained to anyone else this way?
I read about the dealer holdback, I thought this was something that benefited the customer concerning the amount of time the car was or was not on the lot..
Did I mention on the way home from work, a focus was stalled and holding up traffic... It had someone directing traffic away from... Aren't these about as new as the echo?
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I pay $432 a year to fully insure my Echo with $300 deductibles through Wawanesa Insurance. I pay an extra $96 to keep insuring my Samurai at the bare minimum. I pay my car insurance in 3 installments per year - that may have something to do with cheaper price too.
I am a 30 yr old female, with clean driving record. Geico is the only company who could come close to that price - but they couldn't beat it!
azecho -- It doesn't look like anything has shifted. I hit her at an angle so just the corner of the bumper is dented. It looks like it absorbed the impact very well. I must have run part of the hood under something on the other car, but came away with some scratches only which are just above the right headlight. Didn't even crack the lens.
echoz-- your profile doesn't say, but are you in OZ? How come you Aussies get the good packages?
We're thinking about getting one from a junked car, but right now there aren't any available in our immediate area.
Two of the quotes (from Kenny Thomas and Jay Wolfe) are from when the Echo first came out. KT wanted about $14,500 for an almost fully equipped Black Sand Pearl Sedan with spoiler. JW wanted $13,800 for virtually the same vehicle. I have gotten a more recent quote from JW on a 2001 and it was for about the same amount. It was for a car on the lot and not a special order.
If you go "buy" your Echo on Saturday, you can expect to put down about a $500 deposit to have the dealer order the car for you. You do realize that Seafoam Blue is not a color available for the 2001 models so they will have to find you a 2000 model? If you go ahead and put your deposit down, make sure the dealer will be getting you the car exactly as you want it. Get this in writing!
I have not been to Jay Wolfe so sorry if my post gave you that impression. I got the original quote over the phone. This was like 24 hours after I sent a request through their website. The person in charge of internet sales has changed and this new person has never called me. Her final email was that she would be glad to assist me when I stop by.
Good luck on Saturday.
Vadp,
No, I did not think you were trying to get my reaction although you did get it. Anyway, I believe that Mong was asking if Seafoam blue was a girly color and not whether the Echo was girly looking. I do not think the Echo is girly looking and I think Seafoam Blue is a great color. As to what color I daydream, it is the Black Sand Pearl color as that is the color of the Echo I will be buying.
Well, time to take a shower and get to work.