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When I picked up my 01 LX 2.0, I test drove the car throughly. Make sure you check for vibration and pulling at all speeds. Make sure all your fluids are full including your gas tank. Your new Protege should be be flawless inside and out. They should set your clock and go over all the controls of the car.
Do not sign untill the car is perfect!
Pete
Thanks for all the input on what to do when it arrives. I'll just have to tell them that I need an hour or so with the car before I sign off. I get so dang nervous when I'm in a car dealership, no matter how much I prep myself beforehand.
I was wondering because on practically every car review, Consumer Reports invariably finds "2 to 5 minor defects", but they never go into any detail.
Have you found a good automatic carwash in the area that you use during winter?
Columbus was, you know--Columbus. Actually, the weather was pretty nice, don't you think? Too bad I had to spend all my days inside listening to people blab away for 8 hours at a time. Did get to go out a couple of nights with friends who live in Upper Arlington.
Sorry to say I didn't see you, although I was keeping an eye out. Saw a gen 2, as well as a couple of gen 3's, although no red ones.
re: car washes
There is a no-touch at a service station in my area, but it's nowhere near 12 bucks. What happens at YOUR car wash? Do they throw rose petals on your Protege?
The problem with being an apartment dweller is that I don't really have a driveway and convenient access to water to wash the car myself...wish I could. Although I suppose I could always try the DIY wash near Wrigley Field...that's a few blocks away from me.
Glad your dealership experience has been good so far. Got mine at Jacobs Twin, and I don't know if I would recommend it highly to anybody. Service dept seems okay so far (actually checked out something for free a couple of weeks ago), but overall I wasn't impressed by the attitude on the sales floor. My guy wasn't TOO bad, though.
$12 for a no-tougch wash is a huge rip-off.
What I ususally do in the winter is wax the heck out of it in the fall and then all winter I just rinse it good when the weather is warm at one of those u-spray-it places. Then periodically get the no-touch with all the extras. That seems to help the clear coat stay resonably nice.
As I stated earlier, I wash my car by hand, weather permiting. You can use my driveway next time your in Columbus:)
So, for those living along the Chicago lakefront, here is a place to check out.
Seriously, seems like not a bad deal. I probably need to be more diligent about searching out something similar here in this area. I'm afraid I haven't been very good about keeping the Pro clean (and considering it's white, this is kind of a problem!)
Yes, I will definitely be hitting your driveway next time I'm in Ohio. Maybe you can host a Midwest Protege Picnic/CarWash!
Any of you gus hear about this. A guy at work here says when washing his cars, he adds regular car soap AND a couple of capfuls of Murphys Oil soap. Says that the oil is an extra protectant agains rust.
The guys are right, before taking delivery inspect your car thoroughly, get down and look around the bottom of it. Check for small scratches on the paint. Sometimes they don't get all of the glue off off of the hood, roof, and trunk lid where the white plastic sheets were. You will see it as dark red streaks. Have them clean it again. Listen for squeeks and rattles when you drive it. Check at intersections for the steering wheel pulling to one side or the other when you stop or start out. It may be the pavement, it may be the car.
fowler3
fowler3
i picked up my factory ordered pro5 about three weeks ago and loving it! blue, 5spd, moon
i was wondering about when i should wash and wax my car as well, before winter hits.
the thing is, i heard that even no-touch car washes arent good either because they use a harsher cleaning agent to compensate, and/or also they recycle their water, meaning abrasive grit in water?
allez-y!
boopoppa
I do have to say I've heard from several Chicago Pro owners! Great to know I'm not alone anymore and it gives me some hope for the CAPP in the spring! Lets see if I got them all:
Speedypt...that's me
tomcat630
Zupster (about to be a Pro owner)
Chicago Pro (Hi Dale)
elec3 (when not at school in NM)
...did I miss anyone???
Car washes...on those rare occasions when I can't take the time to wash it myself, I have used DeltaSonic. Soft cloth, careful attendants for the most part, and have never gotten any damage on my cars going there. $15 for full exterior and interior...includes a 5-day guarantee (2nd exterior wash for free). Like I said though...only when I can't do it myself.
Regards,
Pete
I will sometimes go for the no-touch automatic with the under-body spray, but it never seems to spray it enough, even when I drive REALLY slowly over the spray bar.
So far as waxing before winter, now's a good time while the temperature's mild. The weather's been unusually nice this year, but it can turn nasty very quickly. I'm going to try to hand-wash and wax my car this weekend (then I can put away the hose for the winter too). Hope the weather stays nice.
Speedypt, I thought it was 'speedypoint', now I know it's 'speedypete'. I was seeing tons of Pro's on the Edens, haven't seen many lately. I think I've seen about 6 Pro 5's, still have to stop and look at them go by.
This board had alot to do with me picking the Pro. The Pro must be great with so many people extolling its virtues.
Thanks,
matt
new CR-V: I had to test drive the redesign last night as it was on my list of potential vehicles. Will be a good package for non-tall people. My knees were hitting the center console and dashboard. Lots of exterior plastic though.
I found the tires I want (Yokohama AVID T4s) at TireRack for only $61 apiece. But then I found out that if I buy the tires from TireRack, I can't get free rotation or any of those other goodies you get when you purchase your tires from a local dealer. So I decided to try to find the Yoko's locally. The only local dealer who has them is Sears, and they have to be special ordered -- at $93 a tire. Ouch. And as many of us who own 2000 ES's know, there ain't much else to choose from unless you want to go with weird-looking Kumhos or mortgage-your-house Michelin XGTs. And I want all-season, quiet, long-lasting tires -- not performance tires -- which sets me apart from many of you. I'm tired of the slip-sliding, noisy-as-hell, short-lived Poortenzas. (And most of you know I hydroplaned a Poortenza-shod 1992 Protege LX to its death with only 28,000 miles on it. Guess how many miles are on my 2000 ES -- with the stock Poortenzas -- right now?)
Epic continues ...
I just happened to be in my local Costco (former Price Club) yesterday, and decided to look at their tire department for the first time. Just as I expected, they didn't have 195/55-15's in any brand. I started to tell the guy my story about liking TireRack's prices but being in a quandry about rotation, and he said they rotate members' tires -- no matter where they bought 'em -- for free!
Problem solved! TireRack, here I come!
Meade
And you just had to get something in there, didn't you?
They just looked and inspected the tires to see they were ok.
Also, my Altima's tires, when they first started feathering, I took it to Tire Kingdom and got the plan on the back tires (had to buy 2 new tires for front so I had to get it then).
Don't take BS from shops, as they will do it, they just need to inspect the tires. Go to an authorized Yoko dealer and they should do it.
Considering that an oil change is about $30 CDN, this one time cost covers 4 oil changes anyway, then all the rest are free.
I have to check out the details tomorrow, but will post details when I get em.
BTW, has anybody heard anything negative about these sorts of deals?
Thanks
Pro_fan
boopopa: Welcome to the Mazda Protegé boards, it's more like a forum here. Know you are enjoying your Pro5. I was at OfficeMax today and saw a silver Pro5 polished to perfection, couldn't take my eyes off of it. Other patrons coming out stopped to see what I was so interested in. LOL Those 16-inch alloys look like 17's with so much space between the spokes. It had a moonroof, also.
I waited to see who the proud owner was. Shucks, she was pretty and blond and way too young for me. I've been out of high school a long time.
Wish Mazda would make an LX version with the Beige interior trim. No immitation aluminum stuff and black guages.
But hey! At least I could drive home in a Protegé! Zoom Zoom!
fowler3
1. How is the long term reliability? By the way you all talk about this car, I can't imagine it's anything but good, but just asking.
2. How is the stock sound system, and will aftermarket speakers be necessary for nice, clear audio?
3. I take it none of the exterior colors on ES Proteges are available with a black interior, or is their website just out-of-date and a little crappy?
4. I have moderate winters up here. Does it handle ok in snow with its current tires, or will I have to get me some of them there snow tires?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
-p
pinto: I can't talk about long term reliability but given the history of "most" Proteges it's probably a good bet.
The stock speakers are fine if you don't go above midway on the volume control. Needless to say my speakers will get replaced soon because of the distortion at higher volumes.
All Protege ES models come with a black cloth interior. Maybe I misunderstood your question though.
In Georgia it never snows (or rains for the matter anymore)worth anything but I'm pretty sure
a few of the other posters in here can help you with that.
As a Honda lover though I am happy with this car and that says alot.
Meade
Mine is a '99LX with about 25000 miles on it. No big problems to date (steering wheel was misaligned when I got it, but my dealership fixed it under warranty). Very pleased so far.
I replaced the stock speakers because I wanted clearer highs. Lows and mid-range were OK on the stock speakers. Current audio system is different from what was in the 99/00 version though.
I'm not sure what tires are stock on the current Pros. Mine were Firestone FR680s, which are OK on dry pavement, but are really bad on wet pavement and snow and ice. I drove VERY carefully during the winter months. I've replaced them with Dunlop SP Sport A2s. They're noticeably more responsive on dry, but I don't have experience on wet, snow or icy surfaces. They're ranked better on Tire Rack's consumer surveys, but I'll let you know what I think when I drive under (or is it over?) those conditions.
I think the Bridgestone Potenza RE92s exhibit similar behavior to the Firestone FR680s on non-dry pavement. That's what I gather from the comments on the Protege boards here. The Dunlops stock on the P5s seem to be more satisfactory.
Get something other than yokohama...the tire grip ratings tehy get are too optimistic for my tastes.
Get pirellis or falkens or something
See this post on the P5 board: onboost91 "Mazda Protege5 (Hatchbacks & Station Wagons Boards)" Nov 14, 2001 8:05am
PF
Welcome to our board.
The sound system on the 2001s is acceptable. It's not your $3000 home stereo sytem, but will do for the car (for me personally). I don't think changing the stock speakers and systems for a mid-range package is worth the difference in sound quality for this car. Overall I would say the current system is ok. But if you have $, you can always tweak it a little.
Tires-wise, depends where you drive. What area? If you don't get too much snow the Potenzas will do just fine. Some of us here on the board have been discussing tires (much to Fowler's chagrin), b/c we live in cooler climates. I am in Toronto, and I'm seriously considering buying a 2nd set of winter tires with rims. For about 750-800 Canadian, it's worth every penny, considering insurance deductible is usually $500 (that's what I have).
The black interior is standard on all ES models as far as I know, both US and CAN.
Reliability-wise, I too had to have an allignment done after I picked mine up. Free of charge. Otherwise, no complaints. I think it might even be more reliable that the New Civic (they've been having some problems with it). Corollas and Sentras don't HANDLE like the PRO does, so I can't compare them.
Hope you'll chose to ZOOM-ZOOM.
Dinu
If you are comfortable going to that shop, do it... they will end up getting you to buy something that makes it up since they are spedning pennies on the dollar for that service.
pintopkp
My wife's grandparents have a 95 DX that has about 26K on it... still runs and sounds great.
also, the sound is fine.. if yyou want booming base or super clear sound, then buy aftermarket stuff. but its good for everyday normal listening too.
Meade
wow... no Yoko dealer... last option... Move!!! heh
OIL FILTERS...
I take it no one has ever used the Mobil 1 Oil Filter that I was asking about?
Oil filter
I've only had one oil change thus far, and it was done at the dealership, so I'm assuming they used a Mazda oem filter.
PF
everybody else: omg, i just got back from an extended long weekend, and i see 105 mssgs! wow!
norcan: i saw your post about gas. here's how i calculated it...($0.569 / L) * (1L / 0.264 gal) * ($1US/$1.60Cdn) = $1.35US / gal
'duh'
In the interest of safety (primarily) and preserving those lovely alloy wheels (secondary), I'm thinking I may break down and buy a set of winter tires. I've got a quote of $530 for tires, wheels, wheel covers and shipping from Tire Rack. It's a bite on the ol' credit card, but I'm guessing the tires should last me a few winters, so I'm thinking of it as an INVESTMENT.
And, in the interest of protecting that investment, I'm looking for advice (either direct, or referring to previous posts) that discuss how to store tires when they're not in use. In one place, I hear they should be stored horizontally (stacked), in another, I hear vertically (on their treads). One thing I read said you should store them in garbage bags if possible...any advice from the ever-dependable Edmunds Townhall Protege Group?
I think the sound systems in the 99-00 Pro's were better sounding than the new ones. When I test drove the Protege5, I tested out the stereo. It was not as powerful, didn't have any bass, and lacked that deepness feeling that my 99LX stereo gives. They may have upgraded the stereo faceplate, but the speakers are definitely worse!
I have the stock Firestone FR680s on my car. I currently have 26K on the car, and I think it's gonna be time for new tires soon. The outer edges are kinda worn, but thats from taking corners pretty fast due to 'spirited driving'.
I don't think I can go wrong with the Yokohamas. They've got a very high treadwear rating, which means they should last a while, and they're rated well in wet conditions. (By the way Wil, I don't put much faith in the "specs" -- I read the reviews customers give the tires. And if you compare the customer reviews between the Yoko Avid T4s and the Michelin Pilot XGTs, which cost twice as much, you'll be amazed at what you read.)
Meade