Mazda Protegé

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  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Good luck! Let us know how it goes...get someone to take pics if you can!!
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    yeah I took quite a few pics at last week's autox event, but hasn't finish that roll of film so couldn't develop it yet. Should be able to finish that roll AND a fresh roll for developing by end of tomorrow...

    And then go to CostCo and get it all developed in their 1-hour photo facility....

    I'll keep y'all updated...

    zoom zoom!
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    I ordered some Philips VisionPlus H4 bulbs today from www.powerbulbs.com. I'll install them later today when it is darker. I'll be sure and take some before and after pics with my digital camera. I'm hoping it's a much better bulb than the Nokyas I had. I've heard some pretty good reviews for this bulb so I thought I'd give it a try.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    Dumb (not you DALE!), but are the bulbs for the headlights, or the foglamps, or what? Just curious.
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    that's what they are!
  • dsm6dsm6 Member Posts: 813
    into the mountains this weekend. Now that the engine is broken in, I figure I'll wind it out on some twisty roads and see what she'll do. Should be fun. Anyone care to join in?
  • dsm6dsm6 Member Posts: 813
    I've heard just about every opinion possible on this one, but ... How long do you figure I should wait before waxing the new Pro?

    Are we to 300 posts in a day yet?
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    Havnen't driven with them yet, but there is a NOTICEABLE difference immediately in the light output. The camera did a good job taking pictures but you have to see it in real life to see the actual difference the bulbs have.


    Before:

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    Right side installed:

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    Both installed:

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    Driver's view:

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  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    The package:

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  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    Since I'm on a roll posting pics...


    Here's a pic of my car taken a few weeks ago, after I washed, waxed, and glazed the car. Used 3M Perfect-It Show Car Liquid Wax and 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. Pretty impressive if you ask me, especially on a tan-colored car!


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  • javadocjavadoc Member Posts: 1,167
    You'll really like the V+ bulbs. I put some Blue Visions in the MPV (and the sedan) and they are much better than stock. Btw, what's all that green stuff on the ground?

    /j - man, I really like the Pro's dash (reqcon)
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    how's it compare with the cheap-o Nokyas in terms of color and brightness?

    also, you ordered from powerbulbs.com, which is in UK, how long did the shipping take?
  • chicagoprochicagopro Member Posts: 1,009
    ...are you going to MAPP?
  • iamziamz Member Posts: 542
    Just my luck. I post a simple question the day before you folks go crazy and post 300 plus posts! ;) I think I found all your replies though.

    Thanks to those of you that replied back on MPG's from your 2.0 liters.

    Congrats on your 10,000 posts. :)
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    I ordered the bulbs on the 10th; they arrived today. I was getting kind of restless because they claim 5-7 days on their website. Since they are in the UK, I guess you can expect a little longer shipping time. The bulbs are slightly whiter, but not blue-colored in any way like the Nokya bulbs I had were. I guess you can call these "stock-plus" bulbs. I've heard some very good reviews on them and they are supposed to throw a longer light beam and are a little brighter.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    I just read through 87 e-mails and then came on here to have to read over 350 POSTS! I cheated!
    After reading 287 I went for End of Posts. LOL

    parallex, does that large pic of Driver's View show them on high beam or low beam?

    browntrout1: When I came online your post was the first one waaay baaack there. You asked:

    I think the US is the only place in the world that still uses Miles, yards, and feet. Why do you have to make life so difficult?

    Answer: A large percentage of Americans are functional illiterates and terrible in math. They are known around the halls of Congress as Lobbiest. Kilometers, in most cases, looks twice as far as miles, for example, 2000KM looks almost twice as far as 1200 miles. Many of these FIs are tourists and that would scare them into staying at home. ;)

    And when buying clothes centimeters would scare them to death! What?!! I wear a 37 centimeter coller? Yikes!

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    for working to keep their cars looking showroom new! You are a proud bunch and show it.

    This afternoon, I saw a BMW 328i with alloy wheels so black with dust I thought it had steel wheels with no covers. To think that a person with enough income to own that car doesn't care how it looks. What a shame!

    fowler3
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Tha could be his "beater" car. His "real" car is the 2002 911 Turbo S that gets the full Zymol treatment by his "guy".

    I've actually seen this happen where I work. A guy pulls in a totally trashed previous Gen M3 and just sells it to us. He'd said he had just bought a new one and didn't need it anymore. When he leaves he gets into a new Porche with this chick. I mean trashed though, french fries, black oil, and brakes, drink stains. Some people just have it like that.

    Most people find it hard to picture life outside of their current "level". Just think though, some people actually live a "Jerry Springer" episode every day and see nothing wrong. And some people actually live a "Clueless" or "90210" lifestyle and have no real idea what it's like to NOT have a BMW or Mercedes. Heck some people would be like "car note???? What's that???
  • the_big_hthe_big_h Member Posts: 1,583
    as James Earl Jone said in 'The Field of Dreams', 'If Meade plans it, I will come...' to MAPP, of course, get your dirty mind out of the gutter! :o
    fxashun:
    I see what you mean, but I still feel sad for a BMW that's been relegated to 'beater' status :(

    the Ultimate Driving Machine should never be put through that kind of humiliation!
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    Those were on LOW beam! Pretty impressive. I went out on a short drive with them - I'm very impressed with them. MUCH better than my old bulbs. It throws light farther, lights up a wider area of the road, and casts a WHITE light. It's not noticeble from looking at the lights outside the car, but while driving, the yellow and white lines on the road are very whitish looking. If anyone is looking for bulbs for performance and NOT style, get these bulbs!!!
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    Dam work!!

    Earlier ya'll were talking about cars that you've driven. I would list all the cars we've driven but by the end of it I think we would be up to 11,000 posts :) Seriously, since I used to be in sales we used to transfer in alot of vehicles for my customers. Then after a while we started doing them for everyone because it was fun. Fxashun got to drive a new car almost every day and got paid for it. What a life.

    I'm still kind of in limbo about the Si but it seems like it's too good to pass up. I hope that I won't get kicked to the Mazda Protege curb if I do buy it :( They appraised my car for $11,000. Not too bad considering there are ads here in Atlanta for 2002 Proteges for $13,900.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Member Posts: 1,009
    Work?? Work....let's see...oh, yeah--work!

    Dang, I knew I forgot to do something today! :)
  • browntrout1browntrout1 Member Posts: 72
    How much did the Phillips bulbs cost? I but these sylvania ones in last year, not much better than stock. Around October, I put a pair of Eurolite Xenon Fusion bulbs in. The light was noticably whiter when I put them in and seemed brighter than stock at the time. I think the filament must degrade pretty fast on these. The light is still very white but it does not seem to be as bright as before. The phillips ones look better. I paid 30 bucks CDN for the pair of bulbs so it's not bad. I was going to get Nokya 886's for my fog lights but if there is alot of blue in these bulbs, I won't want them.

    And on an other note, 300 posts in a day is crazy. I don't work right now and I only post a couple of times a weeks. It was great to get past 10000 posts but the last 300 have been quite boring for the most part. No offense guys.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Member Posts: 2,405
    You don't have to wait to wax a new pro. The paint has already cured. No worries!
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    You guys are insane. 322 posts in a day?
    Were actually talking about the Protege?
  • theparallaxtheparallax Member Posts: 361
    I paid $28 for the two H4 VisionPlus bulbs and some "W5W" bulbs that will work in the Protege's lisence plate light assembly.
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    The 2001-2002 Sentra is once again recalled (saw it in today's paper). How many times is that already in the last 6 mths? At least 3 times.

    The Focus. Well... you all know.

    In other news, the Civic SI HB is listed at $25.500 CDN. What a joke! Yes 160 hp and 135 for torque, but it costs more than an Accord. Kinda like the Golf GTI that lists for over $30.000 CDN. Another BIG joke, for me at least.

    Oh well....

    New SPEED record. I hit 162 km/h this morning on my way to work (here now until 5PM). The PRO had more oomph, but my exit was getting too close.

    Posts: 322 as per Edmunds TownHall front page. Next post was under 100. I will do a "print screen" and save it on the Yahoo! site.

    Dinu
    ZOOM-ZOOMing rapidly on a highway not so near you :)
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    www.tiresafety.com
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    for $11,000.
  • edmund2460edmund2460 Member Posts: 293
    At 8K miles my Pro looks just like it did when it came home. I'm so paranoid about keeping it clean I won't drive it when it rains. I missed the chance of checking it's handling when we had that ice and snow.
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Tell me a bit about that SI. What yr? 5spd/auto? Options? Mods or not? Just curious to see what they sell for in GA compared to here in T.O.

    Dinu
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    So what do you drive if you're not taking the PRO out in the snow and rain? I think most of us are at a "freaky" stage when it comes to how much we LOVE our PROs, except ZZ79 of course :)

    Dinu
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    Gotta see the autoX pics. Post them on Yahoo! That's so sweeet dude :) HAHA!

    BTW, Rally de Catalunya (Costa Brava) IS ON SPEED at 11PM EST.

    Dinu
  • wellokaywellokay Member Posts: 15
    Has any one heard or read about the new shiftable automatic transmission? It is suppose to replace the regular automatic in cars built after February 2002.
  • curt3curt3 Member Posts: 101
    Have any of you out there gotten the letter from Mazda concerning the 1999-2000 Proteges with the 1.6L engine and the possibility of a malfuncitioning Mass Airflow Sensor? I got mine today.

    I have had an engine ping that has baffled me for 30,000 miles now but it only occurs when I burn 89 or lower octane fuel. The Mazda mechanics in my town say that they cannot hear it. Anyway, is there a connection between the Mass Airflow Sensor and pinging? The letter from Mazda mentions symptoms such as uneven idle, lack of power, hesitation, and a Check Engine light, but there is no mention of pinging. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • kaiserheadkaiserhead Member Posts: 166
    Haven't heard about that letter, keep me posted if you hear anything further.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    ZZ79 loves her Pro but the concept of a 8000 rpm redline and 160 hp engine along with a $50 less car note is hard to pass up. I've driven an Si from Atlanta to Orlando and let me tell you that car goes like stink.
    I've seen it now so I can give more details...Black 2000 Civic Si, 5 speed 38,000 miles, black int. stock everything, tires are new(we think it had wheels on it), no mods, bolt turned on front fenders and paint on the hood, no core, no frame, oil is clean, interior is kinda dirty though. We are getting it for $11,200. Lowest priced one in the Autotrader was like $13,000 for one with 78,000 miles on it.

    The "green car" is history too. I'm buying a 1996 Silver EX 4 door for $4500. 107K Factory CD and tail, paint on hood, kinda dirty interior, I have some 15X7 Borbet Type C's that'll look great on it. Gonna drop it an inch and put a Wings West touring car kit on it. Drive it til either someone buys it or another great deal pops up at work. Like a nice $8000 94 SC400. Or a painted up 5 series stick for less than $15000

    I like buying my cars kinda dirty though. I get em home rip out the seats shampoo the carpets scrub the stains and stuff. Makes me feel like they're mine. They seem to like it too. We've bought over 20 used cars and have never really had any serious mishaps. Luck or my limited knowledge of cars I don't know(knock on wood).
  • dinu01dinu01 Member Posts: 2,586
    "...Black 2000 Civic Si, 5 speed 38,000 miles, black int. stock everything, tires are new(we think it had wheels on it), no mods, bolt turned on front fenders and paint on the hood, no core, no frame, oil is clean, interior is kinda dirty though. We are getting it for $11,200"

    That's sounds like a decent deal. I mean $17.000 for that car with 60.000kms, is about market value here in TO for an SI (I think). See, I am tempted to get an older Civic Coupe from 93-94 in May, but I'm having a hard time justifying $8.000-$9.000 and high insurance rates. I'm 21 so that might have something to do with it, but Civics would cost me about $50/mth more to insure than a used PRO let's say. I had a 93 HB and I had MAJOR problems with it, so I'm not the one that would say BUY! BUY! BUY!, although I have to admit it was a nice car (when I didn't have issues with it).

    Oh well. I guess mine was junk then. My ex gf had a 89 Civic sedan that had 288.000kms on it (180.000 miles), then she bought a 91 over the summer with 220.000 kms on it and she thinks Hondas were God's gift to car buyers. That didn;t work out too well :)

    Cheers!~
    Dinu
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    I thought ZoomZoom79 was buying the NEW Civic Si hatchback for $11,000!

    fxashun: I've had expensive cars and entry level cars and always took care of them. Those lifestyles you mentioned didn't cover the types that take out their frustrations on their cars, it's a lack of selfesteem in many people: They don't have the big job they think they deserve; they aren't as important as they think they should be; or they bought a BMW and think they don't deserve it -- so they hide it by leaving it dirty.

    I have a friend like that, he trashes everything he gets his hands on: cars, computers, anything mechanical. We've had many arguements about it. He's in his mid-fifties and hasn't changed in the past 30 years. I would never let him drive my Pro!

    edmunds2460: I'm the same way, I avoid driving my Pro in the rain, if possible, and definately in snow.

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    are those bulbs within the electrical specifications of the Pro?

    fowler3
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Pro's headlights.

    Dinu...The only car that I've ever had that gave me problems to no end were my Anniversary Turbo RX7. It blew a synchro, blew the speakers, and the engine had a weird imbalance at 3000 rpm that I never solved. I got rid of it for a 1991 MR2 Turbo. I've been pretty lucky ever since.

    We have it pretty lucky working for CARMAX. We get to buy 2 cars at a discount. A real good discount... So we get to buy/sell 4 cars a year. That's how I got my Lexus for so cheap. We try to buy cars that we like so we can drive em til they sell.

    What's funny about insurance costs is that when we were with Allstate ZZ's Pro alone was like $1025 for six months. She researched and got a policy at Progressive and all three of our cars were like $970. What a scam. In fact her Pro was actually MORE than her EXV6 Accord at Allstate.

    Fowler...Every personality is different. Every one had their own quirks. I'd rather drive a Civic than my Lexus. I used to have a Vigor. I put 12,000 miles on it in 3 years while I drove my FX16's into the ground. I didn't neglect my FX's though. But then again I "earn" my money. I find that most people who trash cars like that "have" money. It's just there. Most people that baby thier cars "earn" thier money. that check every month represents a piece o their life that they gave up. Of course they are gonna take care of it.

    Our Civics are kinda dirty now. But in a couple of weeks...I'll be eatin' off the floor.
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    Not only did the Vigor only have 12,000 miles or so put on it while we owned it the thing had cobwebs in the brakes ... wonder if that had anything to do with the ABS light coming on???

    dinu: You are welcome to buy our "green car". You know it doesn't have problems or we would have posted about it.

    I will miss the Protege but there are some deals you can't pass up. I will miss the 0.0% interest though. But 6.25% on an 2 year old car isn't that bad either.
  • browntrout1browntrout1 Member Posts: 72
    How much money are you going to lose on your protege? I would think you would lose at least 2-3 grand on depreciation of the car if it is new (6 months or so). I thought of selling my car to get a WRX but financially, I can't. I bought it for 20K cdn + tax. It's a year and a half old now. I think I could get 15000 for it max and that's if I sold it privatly to some chump.
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    I am losing $5,000 but when I bought the car I took a check back for $3,000 because of the 0.0% interest. I was trading a car in and there was a difference so I just told them to cut me a check and I would sell the car on my own instead of trading it. Turns out I didn't even have to use the $3,000 to sell the car though because I sold it to a man less than a week later. But if I take the $3,000 into consideration I am actually only $2,000 in the hole. I financed $19,200 current payoff is $16,000 and they are giving me $11,000. The Si is only $11,000 (loan value is in the $15's) so I will finance $15000 and pay the rest.

    Thank goodness for that 0.0% interest.
  • number42number42 Member Posts: 67
    Here's a question.
    To the guy that replaced the headlamps. Did it improve night vison, and are they 100% compatible with the OEM light (power wise)?
  • elec3elec3 Member Posts: 160
    Will eventually be replaced by a WRX (or possibly an RX8 if I really like and can afford one - I've had good experience with Mazdas so far). The Protege5 is a good car but I would like something that is a bit faster eventually. I think the only way I will keep the Pro5 much past when it is paid off is if I get a motorcycle to satisfy my need for speed (because the Pro5 does make an excellent commuter car and grocery getter).
  • vocusvocus Member Posts: 7,777
    I had a similar experience when I traded my 2001 ES in. It had 20K on it at the time, a large scratch on the front, and a cracked windshield. I got $11,000 trade, Carmax Laurel, Md. told me $9500. They don't hold their value well, as you have seen now.
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    The WRX is growing on me. I think it would be neat to own and for the price it's hard to beat the power and the AWD.

    Fxashun was in love with the P5 too but he won't buy one for the same reason I am getting rid of mine, the engine just doesn't do the car justice. Yes, it's fine for commuting and around town but the suspension feels so awesome at higher speeds and the engine just seems to hold it back.

    I knew that the Pro wouldn't have the resale of some other brands. But I still made out okay since I am getting $11,000 for it when they are being advertised here for $13,900 new. That's one of the bonuses about the Honda. Even with the negative equity if I don't like it for some reason (can't figure out what that reason would be though) I can easily turn around and sell and it be done with my negative equity period. The cheapest Si with my kind of mileage is $15100 so far. Coincidentally that will be what I finance.

    I got to drive the Si from the top of the parking lot to the bottom today and boy is that engine smooth. Smooth as glass. The inside is VERY dirty though and I can't wait to get home and clean it up. My Protege is almost a year old and it's still immaculate, I don't see how people can let the inside get so filthy. That's the difference between a car that is loved and a car that is just driven.
  • fowler3fowler3 Member Posts: 1,919
    The inside is VERY dirty though and I can't wait to get home and clean it up. My Protege is almost a year old and it's still immaculate, I don't see how people can let the inside get so filthy. That's the difference between a car that is loved and a car that is just driven.

    They got in it wearing dirty clothes. Moving around in the seats, sweating, the dirt is pressed out of clothes onto the seat fabrics. Plus spilling drinks and food makes it even dirtier.

    fowler3
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