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Mazda Protegé



  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    The Protege folks?

    If you are not happy with the rules of the Town Hall, you are more than welcome to address your issues to our Consumer Services Manager, Jonah Brown - his email address is

    This conversation is totally out of place here - as I said earlier, I'll be happy to discuss the issue via email, and do please feel free to write to Jonah if you'd like.

    Can we talk about the car now?

    Sedans Message Board
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    Hey, thanks. The reason we won is cause we're very tenacious... :)Us Canucks aren't all bad although I doubt Pat would agree with you about now.

    Incidentally, I am of German ethnic origin. I'm first generation Canadian. Maybe i should be horrifically offended. After all, the sky is falling, the sky is falling....

    Incidentally, I don't blame Pat. She has a job to do, but that darn term is part of auto lingo and used by orientals alike. Just total PC gargabe that has a total idiotic double-standard.

    I'm gonna hop in my "Molson (Canadian Beer) Machine" soon and head off to my hockey game. Waiting too for the inevitable, non-sensical,
    "ze rulez eez ze rulez" email...
  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    Thank-you. I will email Jonah tomorrow. I would also suggest that you send him a few of these posts so that he can see it first hand.

    P.S.- The Protege is a great little car...Does that help?
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    See what happens when I'm not around to lead the group hugs????

  • gandalf17gandalf17 Posts: 348
    I love a good POLK now and again. Or was that

    I also love the Protege.

    I hope you weren't making fun of Polish people ZoomZoom. Bad girl.
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Posts: 272
    I wanna know about Polk Audio speakers man :) :)

    We have them in our car and they sound great.

    Hope none of you green people are offended.
  • I agree with Pat. I surf this room for Protege info only. If I wanted something else; I'd look elsewhere. Thanks Pat for trying to keep the forum focused.

    Birds crapped on my car today and I went out and immediately washed it off. LOL. How's that for obsession??? With my former vehicle, I would have let it dried on there for weeks....
  • boopoppaboopoppa Posts: 48
    first off,

    i love my pro5 and still carry the privilege of not seeing too many around my 'hood.


    i too immediately wash off any bird droppings because it is my understanding that bird droppings have a way of eating away paint, much like an egg, and i've already had to repaint my door from an egging, and don't wish to have to do it again.


    I am Korean-american. I like rice. I call certain people's cars the same. What I don't like is to be called "oriental". that's reserved for furniture and rugs. Please refer to us yellow types as Asians.

    Thank you and keep zoomin'

  • fxashunfxashun Posts: 747
    I spent about year in Japan while I was in the Marines so I know better than that.

    You can't have a forum and not have the occasional comparison why you bought the car. I will admit that my diatribe got out of hand on my Civ... I mean green car but I took it where it belonged.

    I mean how do you know how much you love your car if you don't think it's better than other people's cars?

    Seriously though on those Polk audios. Anyone try to fit a set in their car? They sound as good in the car as my home ones do in the living room. I'm thinking of getting Zoom a set for her b-day.
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    gandalf17 is right about FOLEX, it does remove stains very well, but they will come back in time.
    To use FOLEX on fabric, put a small amount on a soft cloth (or paper towel) and dab or blot on the spot. Do not rub the fabric. You may have to do it a couple times.

    I use FOLEX to remove pet stains on carpeting. Works good. No trace when it dries. Also good for removing mechanic's (grease) stains left on car upholstery after servicing.

    Duh_ster, when I said the Pro's heater works great I didn't mean at the North Pole. Where you live, any car will get instantly cold as soon as the heater is turned off.

    boopoppa: I copied your notation about *oriental* to pass on to others on-line and off-line. Thanks for the clarafication.

  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Can hardly wait for chat night! You folks ought to join us in the new chat room on Yahoo! We have a very enjoyable two hours or more. Chat is from 8:30PM ET to 11:30PM ET. Come as you are, don't dress up just for us. ;)

  • kaiserheadkaiserhead Posts: 166
    The name "Kaiserhead" originated when I had to setup a hotmail account and the only alternatives for using my real name were, that wasn't going to do. So, I looked at my reflection in the computer screen and looked at my ham sandwich (on a kaiser roll) and voila, KAISERHEAD!!

    There were 117 new posts when I signed on today. Too bad they were all about how a civic with a WRX engine can beat a jetta with a 1.8 ethanol hamster wheel engine while pulling a streamline trailer full of rice and memorial day fire crackers or something like that. (Can you tell I don't really read those posts!!)

    Is it me, or are there more Canadian flags than American flags on this list now? We should probaly start talking about day time running lights and block heaters!!!
  • fxashunfxashun Posts: 747
    Jar head. Semper Fi.
    I had a hamster and I'm sure he would not like his species to be misrepresented in that manner.
  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    149 new posts since I last checked yesterday!!!

    #8767 - chicagopro
    Yes, I was driving while I took both of those pictures. :) I'm having a lot of fun with this Canon Powershot A20 I just bought a few weeks ago. I sure as heck wasn't doing it in the middle of a lane change w/o my blinkers weaving in and out of traffic, everything around me at the time wasn't a hazard, so I thought it'd be ok.

    I have a couple more, anyone care to see??? LOL...
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Posts: 272
    anyone in here used premium gas for their Protege? If so, do you notice any noticable advantage at all? I use regular all the time and got to wondering if using premium or plus would make a difference at all or is it just marketing?
  • theparallaxtheparallax Posts: 361
    Nope, no difference at all the few times I had used it. I have the 1.6 slug engine though, but then again, I don't think anything else in the world besides turbocharging/NOS will make this thing any faster!!! :)
  • elec3elec3 Posts: 160
    Note to self, never skip a day again. On the one hand, I understand the Edmunds rules and why they are what they are, but on the other hand I have a hard time accepting them. I'm not a big fan of authority in the first place and I'm also used to things like IRC and the [H]ardOCP forums where (nearly) anything goes. Still I enjoy and appreciate that this place is relatively free of trolls and filth. That's not an easy thing to do.

    Here in the southwest, it's impossible to avoid rice. Seems like it's served with every local dish. Ever been to Santa Fe? Rice, corn, black beans, and chile, yumm! And of course many people like their cars the same way around here, but I'm content enough calling them Eurosports (or Euros for short, even if they're all really Hondas and Mitsubishis with a couple Neons and Cavaliers thrown in).

    As for my PROTEGE5 (topic related, woohoo!) something I've been wondering for a while now. Is it safe to use the overdrive button on the automatic to shift out of overdrive to use engine braking to help slow down (like downshifting a manual)? I accidentally did this once at an interstate off ramp and found that it worked pretty well but don't want to continue doing it if it's harmful to my tranny. Thoughts? Comments?

    rbrooks: I may have missed whether you got your speaker problem fixed amongst all that other stuff, but are you still having bass output issues? The first thing I would think of is that the speakers may be out of phase with one another. In other words, one makes bass by pushing and the other by pulling. They make equal amounts of bass but the waveforms are out of phase and the bass cancels. This is always a concern with sub installations. I imagine you could find out if the two speakers were out of phase by chaning the fade from front to full rear and then changing balance between left and right. If they're out of phase, bass should be weak at center but better at left or right (when only one speaker is firing). Unfortunately I don't know how to fix out of phase speakers, but better to either know this is the problem or isn't, even if you have to dig deeper for a solution.
  • About a hundred posts ago [but only a few hours]:

    possible causes of poor bass:

    -speakers connected out of phase [all grounds to same terminals]
    -speakers too inefficent for power output of amp
    -speakers designed to give little bass 'cause manufacturer wants to sell sub-woofs
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    It's OK to turn off the O/D to take advantage of engine braking every now and then, like on long downhills.This keeps your brakes from getting too hot and inefficient (brake fade). Since the transmission is taking care of the shift, it's doing nothing more than normal wear & tear. I wouldn't use it at every stop sign or red light though, as it does put more load on your engine. Better to replace brake pads than replace engine parts. :)
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I can't believe how many posts I just had to read through to catch up from 3:30 p.m. yesterday to 7:30 a.m. today.

    And why does all the fun stuff always happen in the evenings?

    BTW everyone, I'm on the Atkins diet (low-carb). I've lost almost 20 pounds since January 5. And I can't eat any of those starchy veggies y'all talked about last night. Used to love 'em -- nothing like a big ol' helping of Zatarains red beans and -- well, you know -- ah, I LOVE the South!!!

  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I've only had it on 1 of my many cars ('99 Passat) and it only came into play when I was trying to make it.

    I know it can be very helpful in panic situations, but I don't find it a necessity on small, FWD cars. Of course, I've spent my entire 15 year driving life in northern New England, so maybe I'm used to driving in crud. :-)
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048

    I checked the NHSTA web site and only 2 TSBs came up for the 2001 Protege. There was also 1 recall and 15 Consumer Complaints. 16 TSBs came up for the 1994 Protege. I didn't bother to count the ones for the 1998 Cherokee. Edmunds' numbers seem to jive with NHTSA's. Where are you getting your numbers?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I got nine. I just did it again. Sure, when you enter the info and get the TSB listings, there are only two that specifically state "2001." But the other seven that say "all years" apply to your car just as much as the 2001-specific ones do.

    If it makes you feel any better, a search for TSBs on my 2000 Protege returned 13 -- 6 of which are "2000-specific."

    When you get to the last pull-down selection, don't select a specific component -- just click on "submit make, model and year query" and it'll give you the whole list.

  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    A discussion about gasoline octane has been going on over on the Protege5 Problems & Solutions topic. I thought we could all benefit from a little primer I found on the web, so I'm posting the link here too.

    2000 ES
    87-octane regular ALWAYS
  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Ahh... I see, but do you really think those 7 TSBs posted from 1994-1997 are applicable to my 2001 Protege?
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Some of them are more than others. You can click on them for more information. Many TSBs are nothing more than special instructions to mechanics on how to do certain procedures. I remember seeing one non-year-specific one that instructs mechanics how to use a tracer dye in the air-conditioning system. All TSBs aren't bad news for car owners!

  • boggseboggse Posts: 1,048
    Fair enough. Some of them may apply. I guess the sheer number for my Cherokee may not be as alarming as I thought. I would hate to have to read all of them just to determine that. As usual, the government's system isn't necessarily as helpful as it appears at first glance.
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    ...I'm taking my aunt and uncle along.

    Talked to them the other night...they picked up a fully-loaded 2002 ES for $15,100 out the door.

    Total transaction time: 20 minutes (no, they didn't do a test drive, which I don't necessarily agree with).

    They're the reason I bought Mazda in the first place...this makes six for them over the years, all from the same dealer (probably a big factor in the successful negotiating :)
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I use to use 89-octane gas in my 2001 Protege like every 5th tank or something, to make sure it was clean inside and all. It never made a difference in my fuel economy. Now I have to use premium in the car I have now.

    I got the annual issue from Consumer Reports in the mail yesterday. They said something about the Protege having questionable side impact scores. Any comments?
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