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-Security System Upgrade
-Fabric Guard
-Carpet Mat Set (5 Pc)
-Mud Guards (Color Keyed)
-Carpet Floor Mats
-Rear Cargo Mat
-No Charge Extra Mile Benefits:
-Roadside Assistance (3 Yrs/36,000 Miles
-Extra Mile Extended Life Tires
-(6 Years / 100,000 Miles)
The Extra Mile Option Package B for $1078
-Fabric Guard
-Carpet Mat Set (5 Pc)
-Extra Mile Aluminum Wheel Upgrade (5)
-Wheel Locks
-Mud Guards (Color Keyed)
-Carpet Floor Mats
-Rear Cargo Mat
-Road Hazard Tire Warranty
-(3 Years/36,000 Miles) -)
This is what they are, probably not worth it?? They have the good oh fabric guard in each one. What the heck is the security upgrade?
My take is these packages are bundling a large number of add-ons together so dealers can, once again, increase their bottom lines. If it were me I wouldn't take either package because most of the individual options I don't really want, but there are exceptions:
Security System Upgrade - not sure what this is either -- I've never had my car broken into so its of little value to me
Fabric Guard - never had it on any of my previous cars and the fabric and I fared just fine
Carpet Mat Set (5 Pc) - now this is an option I would recommend - carpeted floor mats add a very nice touch in enhancing the interior, and the Toyota factory mats are very nice looking IMO
Mud Guards (Color Keyed) - also an option I would recommend -- really sets-off the exterior with some sleek character
Carpet Floor Mats - sounds the same as the Carpet Mat Set (5 Pc) option
Rear Cargo Mat - this also should be included in the Carpet Mat Set (5 Pc) option - a recommended option as it adds a touch of class and protects the fabric in the cargo area
Roadside Assistance (3 Yrs/36,000 Miles) - not sure how much this costs but for the few times I've been towed I suspect I've come out ahead without it -- ask yourself if it's something you were planning on purchasing anyway to see if it is of value to you; it does offer peace of mind
Extra Mile Extended Life Tires - not sure if the extra miles you'll get out of the tires justifies the cost; possibly a rip-off
Extra Mile Aluminum Wheel Upgrade (5) - have no idea what the heck this is; probably a rip-off
Wheel Locks - never had my wheels ripped-off, so is of little value to me (if somebody is going to rip-off some wheels, chances are it won't be from a highlander!)
Road Hazard Tire Warranty - not sure what this is either; possibly a rip-off
However some people may value most of these items and it might be worth it for them; I personally would just purchase the specific options I wanted individually and pocket the difference!!
Good luck!!!!
One would think that buying a car with no trade would be a rather easy chore...but no such luck. At one dealer I had an appointment with the sales rep and after waiting for almost an hour for him I walked out. No call from the rep or mgr. the next day. I had to call the dealer for another reason and during the course of coversation I told another person I would be buying a Highlander but not from them. I told him my experience and he told the mgr. who did call me. I have no idea if I am being offered a good deal. I have tried to follow this board and read all that I can and now my head is spinning so can someone please guide me?
I did try to buy using the quote system on Edmunds and one person told me his best price was 5K over MRSP. Give me a break. I guess it was his attempt at humor.
Here is what I am considering and I have two diff. quotes. Are either one of them good?
Thanks in advance for your help and experience.
Quote 1 MSRP 34,674.00 Dis. 3924.00 Tot price 30750 Rebate 800= 29950
Plus tax and a vehical Admin 224 (what the heck is this?)
2005 AWD 4 dr w/3rd row 6cyl
LP, SR, JY, AG, EJ, HD, TO,LF, EH, RL, FE
Z1 Did not find this on Edmunds
R7 Did not find this on Edmunds
It seems to me that the above is not the Limited but they tried to make it into one. One last thing about this quote - They did some work on another car and offered to reduce the bill from 800 to 400.
QUOTE 2 (diff dealer and through a buying group)
2005 Limited AWD 4 dr w/3rd row 6 cyl
Based on the photocopy they gave me:
Dealer 27158 with 2789 in options with dest. charge 565 + TDA (what is this) 450 + gas 6 + holdback 631 and whsl financial reserve 315 (what is this?) = 31914
In another column is a figure of 35554 but there is no heading for this.
Options include: FE, LA, HD, LL, TO, GY, VV and CF
On the worksheet they have 31914 - 200 - 800 = 30914
On the other side they wrote 35,554 and the bottom price 30414
Now, I cannot make sense of this but at the time it did make sense to me. The 30914 is the price I would pay.
One last question: If I graduated in May 2003 can I still use the 200 college credit? I read on the board it was good for 2 years and I am one month past the two year mark.
Thank you very much for your time and advice.
CathK
Secondly, the college grad program is VERY strict in its rules. If you're even 1month out of the 24 month period, you do not qualify. I've had multiple discussions with Toyota Financial Services over the years when I was a Financial Services Manager, and the explanation given to me is that if they make exceptions in any way/shape/form they open themselves up to audits/etc. from banking comissions in regards to discriminatory practices. It won't hurt for you to have the dealer inquire, but don't factor the rebate into your final figures. If you get it look at it as a gift, but don't even assume you will qualify.
Hope this helps.
Sorry I couldn't help with the other quote you have, but it is a bit confusing.
Toyota Ken
FE LL NV LA HD TO GY VV CF
Sticker was 37,554.
They offered Invoice less 200 internet coupon.
Transaction costs added were a TDA fee of $500 and $71.50 doc/admin/gas.
Paid $32,409.50 after an additional $370 negotiated discount and Toyota incentive of $750
I have previously posted my complete 8/04 experience in searching/buying (I live in Columbia, MD area). You can search for scottnrose to find this quickly. In summary, I would look at either Darcars or Koons Toyota Annapolis. I came very close to buying from Koons in Annapolis - they state that they will beat all other deals by $100. If you want to go that route, get an online quote from Darcars and take it to Koons. The advantage of Darcars is they have 3 sites and LOTS of vehicles. Therefore, you can more easily find the right color and included options.
Scott
If you are shopping price , don't fail to contact the Cleveland/Akron area Toyota dealers - they often will beat Columbus area prices readily. Check in the Plain Dealer weekend issues for prices/phones. Good luck.
We did very well with Toyata in Leesburg VA. What a world of difference.
Most of the prices I find on the board are for 6cyl.
Help?
Deborah
Had been told the resale on 4 cyl is less than 6 but may have to sacrifice resale for something that is more in our budget and gets good gas mileage
With your info, think the 4 will be sufficient for everyday driving in less mountainous terrain of NC.
If you don't mind, can you elaborate on pricing you got on your 4 when you purchased in April. Are dealers willing to negotiate on 4 cyl models?
Can you tell me where this dealership is?
Can you tell me what city exactly this dealer is?
IN April I bought through the internet dept. at a big dealer - very satisfactory. They had to trade for mine from another dealer since I wanted a moonroof, alloys, and mudguards and NO 3rd seat. Price was $100 over invoice less the then-current $1250 rebate. MSRP was $27.4, deal was 23.7. I'm happy.
Thanks for info and pricing.
BTW, I owned an Explorer from 1999 to 2002, it was terrible on gas so that is why I thought about the 4 cyl HL so as not to take a chance on the 6 cyl HL being a gas monster like the Explorer.
(STDEN-02) Engine: 3.3L V6 DOHC SMPI
(STDTN-01) Transmission: Electronic 5-Speed Automatic w/Overdrive
(STDTR-02) Tires: P225/65R17 AS BSW
(STDWL-02) Wheels: 17 in. x 6.5J Aluminum
(STDST-01) Front Bucket Seats
(LL-01) Limited Package
(STDAX-01) 3.478 Axle Ratio
(STDGV-01) Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: 5,360 lbs
(PAINT-01) Monotone Paint Application
(LA-01) Leather Seat Trim Package $1120
(GY-02) Driver and Passenger Curtain and Side Airbag System $559
(VV-01) Value Package 2 $504
(HD-03) Driver and Passenger Seat Heater $352
(NV-01) GPS Navigation System $1700
(TO-02) Towing Prep Package w/3500 Pounds Torque Converter $128
(FE-01) 50 State Emissions
(CF-01) Carpet Floor/Cargo Mat Set (5 or 6-Piece Set) $126
(208069-88) Customer Rebate Expires 08/01/05 ($1000) which was automatically taken off during delivery so no forms to fill out and submit.
Total with 8.75% Bay Area tax was $36259.40 which is really good price I think.
4x2 V6 HL with options FE AG TO PE CF. MSRP is 28100. The 3300 discount includes the 800 fananing discount for Toyota. So the price is 25,600+ttl+tax with 2.9APR or 24800+ttl+tax with cash. Is that still a good deal? Urgent, offer expire tomorrow. Thank you.
I am thinking about the following HL 2005, what's the reasonal price I may pay for?
6928 model, FE, AG, RL, JY, LF, EH, SR, PE, TO, CF, V5, SONORA GOLD PEARL COLOR.
Thanks!!
Still sounds like a very good deal for a V6 plus the options you listed (though never hurts to counter with a price ~ $1000 lower than what they proposed just to see what happens!); this offer still qualifies for landdriver's official "go for it!"
When I add the options from Edmunds invoice prices (without the Z1), I get $2,055 (FE=$0; EH=$48; LF=$88; AG=$480; TO=$128; RL=$32; SR=$720; JY=$559; Z1=??). I figure throw in another $250 for the Z1. So ... I get $2,305. The invoice price from Edmunds is: $24,553. Therefore, the invoice price is around: $26,858.
If my analysis is correct (let me know if it isn't), the quote seems awfully high - at least $2000 too high. Am I correct? I want a model w/ the extra safety (JY package - side curtain airbags) and the dealer told me that the lowest-configured model that includes that JY package is the one I specified (I don't care about a sun/moon roof - SR package; nor do I care about many of the other items). Does anyone know if other dealers offer lower configurations? Is the JY really needed?
Thanks
So it looks like you're getting a quote somewhere around $1000 over invoice which is pretty good. Not necesarily the best absolute deal (you honestly may be able to get another $100 or so more off) but that's about what they're going for here in western New York as well, So if you're otherwise happy with your salesperson and dealer, sounds like they're being upfront so far.
Ken
Thanks,
Bill
It may be easiest to ask the dealer you're working with to see the actual invoice and it will list all of them more specifically for you. It will also give you a starting point for your negotiations or at least a reference point for where the price you have is based off of.
Hope this helps.
Ken
When does the 2006 model come out and should I wait to buy a 2005 until then thinking the dealer will want to get rid of the 2005s?
Also can someone explain what a Dealer Holdback and a Factory to Dealer Cash is and how do I find out the amounts of those?
I'm in Central Texas and willing to travel to get a good deal. If anyone has any suggestions as to what dealership to try, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Jeff
Hope this helps.
Ken
In addition to the info that toyotaken provided, you might find these discussions helpful:
Dealer Holdback questions
Rebates, Incentives, APRs - Questions & Comments
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Also, would it be best to wait for the 2006 models?
Dealer quote: $29,500 (includes destination - tax, title, doc, etc. are not included). Edmunds' invoice and TMV (w/ Z1 added): $27,400; $28,700
Quote is well over invoice and TMV. Even w/ rebate, 2005 models don't seem attractive - when I can wait a couple of months & get a 2006.
Opinions?
I just found a dealership in Maryland. Try their website at darcars.com. They had some very interesting prices, I thought.
I spoke with someone today, who was extremely nice. Let me know what you think.
It didn't feel good
Here in Alabama for the last few months they've had rebates ranging anywhere from $1,000 to $1,500 for the model I'm looking at. So the potential prices have been pretty attractive. But we've had a hard time finding one with the options we want and I've been told by one dealer they'd have to place a special order for the specs we want and since it wouldn't get here until October it would be considered a 2006 model. Therefore they couldn't quote me a price since they wouldn't know if there would be any rebates/incentives. I wasn't sure if the rebates were something that just progressively ramped up toward the end of each model year or if they pretty much kept them going at roughly the same level year round in various areas.