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Edmunds articles and reviews and the buyer comments drove me (no pun intended)to this decision long ago, but I was just waiting for the right moment.
I drove away from my local dealer, who only had four 2002's left, with an EX model. It is two-tone midnight black and platnium silver. It has all of the gadgets minus leather (my wife did not prefer leather), so I opted for the ABS instead. It is running like a dream and I am excited to have made the best decision with very good information provided to me. Edmund's TMV enabled me to get it for just $100 over invoice.
I immediately waxed it, but did not want to take it out. I parked away from everyone at Church and was very afraid that a tree would fall on my garage when the storms/tornados blew through Northeast Ohio on Sunday night. Thankfully it is still in tack and no trees fell in my yard. Am I paranoid or what?
Anyway - thanks again and I hope to frequent the discussion group and hope to be much less winded (again, no pun intended).
Welcome aboard! Enjoy your new van. Yes, you're paranoid, but you're entitled. My wife won't even drive our Sedona in the rain!
stenson,
We bought our 02 EX about 6 weeks ago and everyone loves yet! Especially my wife (primary driver). No problems whatsoever. Much better fit, finish, ride, handling, performance, you name it - than our previous 2 Windstars. I found the steering to be precise and balanced, the brakes feel fine for such a heavy vehicle. But, then again, I'm comparing to a Windstar.
You may want to drive more than one to make sure you didn't drive one that had problems. We drove an LX and were impressed. Then drove an EX and were sold!
We don't worry about resale or reliability: the Sedona has a great record of both in other countries. We just enjoy the van and the money we saved.
I highly recommend the Sedona.
I would appreciate any feedback to find out the typical lease payment for this vehicle.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
signed,
MVFrank
This type of problem seems to be a tough one for dealers to solve. My guess is there's not much, if any, warranty reimbursement provided by manufacturers for such a fix, which is why dealers are reluctant to resolve this type of issue. We have the same situation with our other vehicle, a 1998 Isuzu Trooper. It bothered me for a while, but I learned to live with it.
One of these days I'll have a dealer look at the seat in our Sedona and see if they can do anything about it.
Anyone else had this problem or have advice regarding this problem?"
http://www.kia.com/clearance/index.shtml
This engine hesitation when cold has been discussed quite a bit on this board. For more info, search back through the old posts. Sorry I can't give you details, as our 2002 Sedona EX has not exhibited this problem.
I had to mention the airbag reprogram to my dealer twice, and the procedure was not done until the vehicle's 2nd service visit.
Please clue me into what the "airbag reprogram" is all about. I have not seen this discussion previously.
and EX3 - did you install that hitch yourself or have some else do it? I am searching for a good hitch to install on my 2002 EX Sedona. And what was the cost on your new one?
EX3 - also - did you do the wiring on that hitch? and if so what was the difficulty factor?
Both were very simple to install.
The hitch is easier if you have a second set of hands to assist. My 12 year old son and I installed it in less than 30 minutes. You will be amazed at how easy it is. On a scale of 1 to 5 I would give it a 1.
The wiring kit was fairly simple as well. You will connect to the tail light assemblies so you have to remove panels to access them. Again the instructions were good and it probably took 30 minutes. Rate this process as a 2 on the 1 to 5 scale.
By the way, a trailer retailer will charge you double what you will pay by installing it yourself and ordering through e-trailer.
Doesn't look like skiis could fit under the 2nd row of seats. Don't know if they could fit between seats with the captains chairs--they couldn't be angled in as much.
Thanks!
Bluedevils - the hitch we are discussing is the Class III draw-tite from etrailer.com. I also found similar ones at hitches-forless.com. They fit the Kia and appear to be fairly easy to install. etrailer even had pictures of the Sedona and the placement of the hitch and wiring - very helpful.
Does it lock?
http://www.thuleracks.com/thule/product.asp?dept_id=11&sku=669
R. J.
The lone person in the rearmost seat can still load and unload by moving the middle seat forward, folded.
Have fun!
Haven't seen much on what folks are paying for 2003 Sedona EX's. Dealer I've been negotiating with claims KBB, Edmunds and Carpoint are all incorrect for Invoice. Fairly common claim I suspect. Haven't bought a vehicle in awhile, but was the same song I got last time from the dealer.
Quoted from the dealer's e-mail: The actual invoice on the vehicle is $22,663 which is
$573 more than you beleive it to be. This is not unusal as none of the services have the correct invoice because Kia does not show the complete invoice cost on their site."
My calculations showed invoice @ $22090 as configured, Kelley Blue book, MSN and Edmunds.
This is the "deal" he is offering:
2003 Sedona EX Emerald Green over beige:
Installed Options
> > > AB 4-WHEEL ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM
> > > LE LEATHER PKG
> > > SR PWR GLASS SUNROOF
SALE PRICE $22,546.00
PRICE W/OPTIONS $22,546.00
DEALER LIC. & TAX $42.84
TITLE TAX $680.25
TAGS TITLE & PROC. $167.50
TOTAL DELIV. PRICE $23,436.59
Believe this to be about an "average" deal for sale price, based upon the previous postings here.
I offered his price above if he would include the front bug guard, moon roof shield and mudflaps.
This is the response I received:
"We want to do what ever we can to put this deal together. To do this we have to be on the same understanding regarding the figures. The actual invoice on the vehicle is $22,663 which is
$573 more than you beleive it to be. This is not unusal as none of the services have the correct invoice because Kia does not show the complete invoice cost on their site. In addition to this, $82.50 in additional costs are required to make the vehicle ready for sale.That is, the total dealer cost on the vehicle is $22,745.50. This does include the Virginia state inspection as this is a part of the $82.50 that the dealer is required to do.
Would appreciate anyone's thoughts on this deal.
I'd say that since the base cost of the van and its popularity went up slightly, this looks pretty reasonable. I think the easiest way to do better at this point is to find a dealer with the same car willing to go lower.
Good luck with it.
Closed the deal with PenceAuto in Midlothian, (suburb of Richmond) VA last night. Emerald Green 2003 EX with all options except hitch. Will add class III later. Relatively painless transaction with one minor exception...think they inflated the cost of the accessories. More later as this unfolds.
As we are a single income family, I will be trying to trade both cars (honda and hyundai) in for one new / used van or suv. After tradins, I will be driving my 87 s10 full time (has been a project truck till now).
Has anyone dealt with 2 tradins at a Kia dealer?
Also, I am a little concerned about full ecconmomy in the Sedona...What are some real world gas mileage numbers?
Thanks in Advance All!
Use 18mpg to calculate annual Sedona fuel cost.
Final thought: Need or want, need or want, need or...?
We NEED a van. I suspect I am upside down on the hyundai...the honda may be a wash or we may see just a little bit of cash.
I mention trading in both cars only because the last two times I tried to sell vehicles outright, I had little or no response although it may just have been the vehicles. Also, it is real easy to finance a new car where as to get a loan for a used car people seem to feel it is harder...
I know I would be better in both cases selling the cars directly and paying them off...
Does anyone have thoughts on 2003 sedona being offered for 0 percent 60 months as the 2002's are right now?
Looking to buy in January / Febuary unless you all think now is the best time to act.??
Thanks!
1) no reason to act now for a 2003 Sedona. Only reason to act fast would be if you are looking to find one of the last remaining 2002s and get a great deal.
2) If your Civic has been well maintained, and maybe even if it hasn't, and is in good cosmetic shape, you should have no problems selling it. As much as I like the Elantra, you are likely to have a much tougher time selling it. My preference is to sell privately. Why not list the cars, see how much attention they get, and trade them in only as a last resort?
P.S. getting close to 10k miles on my Sedona, love the van , no problems.. just wish the mileage was better, still glad I bought it.