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I have a couple different dealerships that I am negotiating with, but have yet to get them down near the TMV. I asked the one sales rep to send me the link to this 'internet disclaimer' her referred to about Edmunds pricing and he just ignored me.
I'm really getting frustrated with this process..I hate car shopping!
So when a Toyota dealer claims Invoice+X you have to add $675 to the invoice price you see on edmunds.
Toyota is the only manufacturer does that.
All other manufacturere's invoice price exactly matched between the invoice price on edmunds and the dealers tell you.
EJ (6-disc changer)
GY (side air bags)
RF (rear spoiler)
RL (daytime running lights)
SR (moonroof)
C7 (convenience package)
G4 (floor mats)
HP (hood protector)
Sticker (incl. dest charge): $47019
Invoice (incl. dest charge): $41845
Paid: $41845
Reading this board and Edmunds TMV was a great help in being able to buy with confidence and just in knowing how to approach the purchase with the dealer.
Our dealer didn't attempt to charge an advertising fee. She faxed us the invoice and it matched Edmunds exactly, except for the couple of dealer adds that Edmunds does not list any figures for--we checked those against vehicles at another dealer.
Please do post your purchase details for others to benefit from.
2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5
Desert Sand Mica
Options:
AC DUAL AIR CONDITIONING
CC FABRIC CAPTAINS CHAIRS W/POWER
CQ CONVENIENCE PACKAGE
DR ROOF RACK
EJ JBL PREMIUM 3-IN-1 COMBO 6 DISC CD + 10 SPEAKERS
HQ TOW HITCH/ HARNESS
LF FRONT FOG & DRIVING LAMP
PG PRIVACY GLASS
RL DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
A2 EXTRAMILE ALUMINUM WHEEL UPGRADE
* WHEEL LOCKS
* ROAD HAZARD-TIRE & WHEEL WARRANTY
DD REAR SPOILER
TOTAL BEFORE TTL (Sales Price) INCLUDING $2000 CASH BACK AND $500 MILITARY DISCOUNT =
$30,894.35 !
Why not build a Sequoia so you get exactly what you want? It takes about two months but I think it was well worth the wait. Mike
What dealership quoted you that price? I've requested information from Sterling and Fred Haas Toyota but was wondering if one has a better reputation than the other.
Thanks!
Can't seem to find any site that mentions these charges but dealers don't want to see to give them up.
Anyone in Alvin I should talk to?
Thanks!
Well, we think now we want a solid white, only to find that you can only get a solid color (other than silver) in a Limited. Do I really have to pay for a bunch of extras I don't want to get a solid white Sequoia? How stupid is that????
We are talking about $6,000 just so I can get a solid color car? Go figure. You would think it would cost less to get a solid color car.
I just really think the two-tone colors will date the car. I kept my last car for ten years and it still looks pretty good.
Is the extra money worth it? Are the Limited's that much better?
Thanks, DReau
Thanks.
It's funny, I agree with you about the sequoia not looking as good in 2-tone as the Ltd, but in the explorer, I really like the eddie bauer with the same 2-toned underside. Go figure.
Thanks for your input.
How do I find out who has the Sequoia now? I live in MS and e-mailed a dealer in Atlanta (we will be vacationing there and dealers here are not very helpful). He tells me the Sequoia I picked is in central Florida!! and he has one that I will be interested in. He does give me a decent price (I think) and says it has everything I want (solid white, moonroof and DVD) and not all the extras I don't want and don't want to pay for.
The one he has does have moonroof and is white but it does not have the DVD. He says they have a place they've used for years that can install a 7" for $1,599.
My question is this, I like the Sequoia I built on the web page and I have the vin # it shows, is there a way to find out where that specifid car is on the web page? If it says it will be available July 2nd, does that mean it may not even have arrived yet? Is this guy telling me straight, or just trying to get rid of what is on his lot?
Thanks for any help. DebR
Anyway, he seems to be giving me straightforward advice and gave me a selling price of $39,299 on a Sequoia with a MSRP of $43,420. Is this good?
Of course, then I would have to add the DVD for $l,599 for a 7"
What are your thoughts on this???
Thanks!
I saw a Sequoia (white LTD. 03) listed on a dealer web site for $45,010 available 6/21. It comes with side airbags, moonroof, mats, DVD and without any other added extras that I don't want. The internet salesman tells me that it is "on sale" for $41,000, plus $299.50 clerical fees.
What do you think about this price?
DebR
No, the Sequoia is not 4wd. It was listed on the dealer's site (not the cars on their lot but available in the area) as being available June 21st and now I don't know where it is. It was exactly what I wanted.
Asked if he could go any lower and he was going on vacation and I will not be ready to purchase for a week.
Will keep trying.
Thanks for the helpful info.
Deb
($41,166.00 + Tax & Tags). Loaded!!! (except the DVD player) Now I really am a HAPPY CAMPER! And I finally was able to use the 01 in the snow, I sure hope they got the A/C & brake problems fixed this time around.
BTW, are those extended car care programs any good. They offered a package that guaranteed the paint, leather and carpet for five years for $299. My only reservation is that the guarantee is not with Toyota but with the company that puts on the sealants. I did purchase an extended 100,000 mile seven year platinum warranty for $1,200.
So far the car is fine but I am somewhat dissapointed in the soft interior plastic that scratches too easy and I wish the car came with memory seat positioning for the drivers seat. The car should also have the option of second row side air bags and the distance sensor when in reverse. While I'm venting I might as well add the floor mats are a joke...they don't fit well and are flimsy. I have to hand it to the Expedition for having a much better option selection and lower pricing (about $4,000 to $5,000 less). I hope over the long haul the quality of Toyota will make up the difference.
We want to buy in the next few days, hopefully, the salesmen will cooperate. We live in a small town with one Toyota dealership. I have contacted two others that are within 1 1/2 hours drive.
I want white LTD with moonroof, DVD, airbags and mats. I don't want/need any of the package stuff.
So far I have two responses - one with a MSRP of $44,521 that will sell for $41,116 (with dealer fees that he did not disclose yet).
Another quote (an hour away) was what I want with Toyo Guard, daytime running lights and spoiler added. No MSRP given and price he'll sell for is $41,500, plus clerical of $299.
We need to buy very soon. Can I get some opinions please, my husband is leaving this all up to me, as it will be my truck.
Thanks, Deb
I have been quoted MSRP of $45,221 and they will sell to me for $41,205, with tax and title, etc. comes to $43,420. I'm told I'm saving $4,000. Well, how is that? Oh, they also tell me white is a hot color and kept trying to sell me what was on the lot which did not have everything I wanted. (DVD, moonroof, mats and airbags).
Thanks for any input. (Do wish I was closer and could take advantage of those CA prices. I will be in CA in July but do not want to drive it back. I am a CA girl trying to deal with the MS thing.) Deb
As for ordering (6-8 weeks is reasonable)--definitely the way to go if you can get your price. Many dealers are less willing to give a good price on an order. I've heard that many people change their mind and the dealer is stuck with what might be a less-marketable configuration. Late in the model year especially.
Another advantage to ordering--underappreciated I think--is 6 people haven't slammed the pedal to floor test driving the vehicle before the engine even has 100 miles on it.
Suggestion: Fax and e-mail all the dealers in your area stating you will only order and you are prepared to buy today. List the color, trim and option codes you desire (you can get the options codes from the Edmunds web site) so they have all the information they need to quote you a price.
If you get 2-3 responses you will get a feel for what the right price is (no more than Edmunds TMV for sure) and you can usually find someone who will beat the best initial offer you receive. Or maybe your present dealer will suddenly realize he can do better.
Order what you want if you can get it. If you buy off the lot right now you are doing the dealer huge favor. If the '03 is still sitting there at the end of August (it is July) when the 04's roll in he'll have to discount it at least $8000 off MSRP to sell it. Use that to your advantage.
Good luck
PS 6-8 weeks low side for "special order". I checked multiple dealers and the answer was 6-8 weeks (but could take up to 120 days) Ask them to show you how long some past orders took. I special ordered mine and it was 15 weeks. Orders go in twice a month 15th and 30th. If you order on the 16th it won't get submitted until 2 weeks later(my scenario). If the dealer can "change" an existing allocated vehicle it will be faster. IE everything you want is already being built but does not have DVD they can add that but can't change the blue to white.
Carson Toyota in CA has some good prices and large inventory check them on the WEB and send e-mail requesting info.
All a post like that does is prevent someone from making a well-informed decision on a Sequoia when they see a $4000 discount on a Sequoia.
JBL Upgrade:$200; Sunroof:$1000; Side Airbags:$500; Carpet Mats:$200; Rear Spoiler:$200, Glass Breakage System:$149; Alloy Wheel Locks:$59; Daytime Running Lights:$40. The options total $2,348. Summing the $2,348 in options with your base MSRP of $43,520 totals $45,868. Deducting my purchase price of $39,200 results in a savings of $6,668.
Is that what you were looking for?
Since I don't have the invoice, I guess I could take 20% off the sticker option costs and add that to your "net/net" invoice to see how much over the estimated "net/net" invoice price I paid. $2,348 x 80%=$1,878 + $37,209=$39,087, or about about $100 less than what I paid.
I hope this helps others make a well-informed decision.
I digress, the MSRP was $44,22l (I am told) and I paid $42,350.20 with tax, title, etc. out the door. This includes the $1,000 I got for my old Grand Marquis. Just want to get rid of it. He wouldn't budge on price and the only other dealers (2) are over an hour and a half away. Which wasn't that appealing, so I caved.
Well, he tells me six to eight weeks. Gave him a check for $500 today. Now, I am wondering when is the 04 coming out. Husband asked and now you bring it up. If they are coming out at the end of August - should I tell him to get me one of those instead? Are they changing at all?
I kept my last car for close to ten years and 150,000 so..... don't know if it will even matter. Just wondering.
Any thoughts? And please tell me they come in fairly close to schedule.
Thanks so much for the input, Deb
From the grapevine I've gathered only minor changes to the '04, like an option for a navigation system. The dealer probably won't switch your order to an '04 since it's technically a different vehicle but, hey, doesn't hurt to try.
As for the '03, just keep in mind you're taking a year of depreciation pretty much the minute you get it. If you're going to drive it 10 years that's no big deal. If you pay personal property taxes that are based on the vehicle value you might actually come out ahead since an '03 will be valued less than an '04 in the eyes of most taxing entities.
Let us know how you like it.
SR5 4WD Sticke Price: 43,585.00
OPTIONS:
AC (Dual Zone Automatic Air Conditioning) - 456.00
AG (Alloy Wheel Package #2) - 1,468.00
CC (Captain's Chairs) - 596.00
CQ (Convenience Package) - 204.00
DR (Roof Rack w/ Rails) - 176.00
EJ (JBL Premium 3-In-1 Combo w/ 6-Disc In-Dash CD Changer) - 536.00
GY (Side and Head Airbags for Driver and Front Passenger) - 430.00
KE (Remote Keyless Entry) - 196.00
L2 (Leather Upgrade) - 1,538.00
LF (Fog Lamps) - 88.00
M6 (Floor Mat) - 159.00
RL (Daytime Running Lights) - 32.00
SR (Power Sunroof w/ Tilt) - 800.00
T2 (Two - Tone Paint) - 579.00
W1 (Molded Dash Applique) - 295.00
Destination Charges: 510.00
Purchase Price 38,000.00
with the 1.9% financing from Toyota
The best offer so far is $1,500 down @ $652/month. Mileage is 12K per year. I am thinking this is a pretty solid offer - any opinions?
Thanks....gave list price only as a reference.........cap cost is 43K with a 21,100 resid and money factor of .00015....
MSRP was 47350 on a white LTD
I paid 41200 which included the $1000 customer cash which toyota is now offering.
AG
AC
GY
CQ
KE
DR
LF
RL
MSRP: $37,628
Invoice: $33,709
Incentive: $1,000
My Price after incentive: $32,077 + Fees as follows:
Tax: $2,598.24
Plates: $551.55
DOC: $289
Tire Tax: $5
Total Price out-the door: $35,520.79.
Please advise. & yes I know the 2004s are about to be released. I am just trying to get a feel if these figures sound decent. It appears to be under TMV. Thanks...
EJ - JBL Premium 3-in-1 Combo w/ 6 Disc CD
GY - Driver/Pass Curtain & Side Airbags
RF - Rear Spoiler
SR - Moonroof
HY - Rear Audio
QA - Rear Load Leveling
GN - Cargo Net
WL - Alloy Wheel Locks
CF - Floor Mats w/ Door Sill Protectors
MSRP including Destination Fee ($510) was $44276.
I paid $39450
Good deal or not?
IMHO, any time you pay >10% off of MSRP, you are doing well. I recently purchased one for 11% off + toyotas $1000 which made it 13% off. I was unable to beat this # across town or by driving 200 miles to the next town.
Agree?