The 201HP version that is in the Elantra sport. I drove one of hose briefly but did not notice that he tranny as an issue, but also did not spend time creeping along. Not that I usually do anyway!
I'm looking at the Elantra GT as an option to replace my sonata, and debating the base engine or the 1.6/DSG combo to go faster.
I'd recommend an extended test drive. I'm a DSG guy for life. I think the benefits far outweigh any negatives.
They are capable of making a 200 HP car seem very fast and more like a 250 HP car. They are capable of getting you really good fuel economy; especially if they give you 7 or more gears to work with. They shift lightning fast. If programmed correctly with a good exhaust, I enjoy the fast-shift "fart" sound of a good quick gear change under engine load.
And yet, I get why people like manuals and still insist on them, despite being slower to accelerate.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Living in Bellevue, I go into the city just a few times a year now. There's very little over there I need enough to want to make me brave the traffic or deal with transit times, as almost everything can be had in Bellevue now. Of course, Bellevue traffic is a zoo too just like Issaquah, but at least it is closer.
I despise driving into Seattle and take the bus when necessary. Issaquah traffic is out of control now!
Agreed - we are close enough to take the light rail down town on the weekends for movies and what not. The Cinerama is a pretty amazing theater - I guess that is one of Paul Allen's hobbies!
Back to cars a bit - neighbor just bought a Q5. A very lovely car, but I am not sold on high output turbo 4 cylinder engines, especially in luxury cars.
The SQ5 will get you a supercharged V6, or if you get the new models coming out now, the new turbocharged V6. Read some good things about the efficiency of these new turbo V6's from Audi, but have yet to see the EPA figures.
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The charts say this rig is putting out some serious horsepower. I wonder what boost pressures they are running?
I saw on TV the other day where Engine Masters juiced up a stock Chevy 305 with nitrous and got up to around 600 HP. But then it blew up.
With social media these days I would think a few blown engines (pre-maturely) would result in devastating results for a tuner/aftermarket part company.
Heck, I remember many years ago someone saying they were Stage 4 or 5; and they did have engine issues. Stage 3 ought to be tame in comparison
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I've not quite understood why you'd want to badge your car with the tune you've given it. Perhaps if they gave me the tune for free as a sponsor I'd allow the advertisement.
I'm pretty sure you were joking, but in case you were not, APR is a tuning and aftermarket modification/upgrade/go faster type of outfit.
I thought the APR was an option from TT for the car. Dr. Shiftright posted a link to the aftermarket company which included speed charts after I put it up. Annual Percentage Rate was the mnemonic that I used to remember the label until I got home.
I think I have said this before here, but my issue with the GTI DSG is that in Sport mode it is entirely too aggressive and in normal mode is slow to downshift and very quick to upshift for fuel economy. I've figured out how to play the transmission's game a bit to train it to be more aggressive in normal mode, but it is far from perfect.
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I think I have said this before here, but my issue with the GTI DSG is that in Sport mode it is entirely too aggressive and in normal mode is slow to downshift and very quick to upshift for fuel economy. I've figured out how to play the transmission's game a bit to train it to be more aggressive in normal mode, but it is far from perfect.
Sounds like you are in the "offer 3-modes for the DSG" comment card camp for VW.
They do it for the adjustable suspensions in the R, they should be able to do that for the transmission. Play with the throttle input until it learns what you want better.
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I thought tuner badges were a way to show off how much money you spent - which is a big part of why people buy these cars to begin with. No different from factory tuned cars with badges like M, AMG, RS.
I saw a RennTech tuned C63 for sale locally awhile back, very obvious badge on that one too.
I've not quite understood why you'd want to badge your car with the tune you've given it. Perhaps if they gave me the tune for free as a sponsor I'd allow the advertisement.
I'm pretty sure you were joking, but in case you were not, APR is a tuning and aftermarket modification/upgrade/go faster type of outfit.
I thought the APR was an option from TT for the car. Dr. Shiftright posted a link to the aftermarket company which included speed charts after I put it up. Annual Percentage Rate was the mnemonic that I used to remember the label until I got home.
Similar to GIAC, Unitronics, REVO, and AWE (although AWE is strictly parts, not software).
I haven't heard of any of those companies? Do they make parts for my Malibu 2.5 L?
Doesn't look like it, and I did a quick search for all but REVO. AWE offers parts for Ford's with Turbos (ST/RS Focus and Ecoboost Mustang). Other then that, they all just specialize in euro performance cars.
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I've not quite understood why you'd want to badge your car with the tune you've given it. Perhaps if they gave me the tune for free as a sponsor I'd allow the advertisement.
I'm pretty sure you were joking, but in case you were not, APR is a tuning and aftermarket modification/upgrade/go faster type of outfit.
I thought the APR was an option from TT for the car. Dr. Shiftright posted a link to the aftermarket company which included speed charts after I put it up. Annual Percentage Rate was the mnemonic that I used to remember the label until I got home.
Similar to GIAC, Unitronics, REVO, and AWE (although AWE is strictly parts, not software).
I haven't heard of any of those companies? Do they make parts for my Malibu 2.5 L?
For awhile years back Audi teamed with Stasis to offer new Audi's with GIAC tuning and still warrant them for 4 years and 50,000 miles. I think BMW did something similar with another company. Not too common, as they probably overcharge for the program. They don't give you a credit for removing brand new stock OEM parts with no miles on them!
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Other then that, they all just specialize in euro performance cars.
I have Euro spec Pennzoil Platinum synthetic oil in my Cobalt. Walmart doesn't stock the normal 10W-30 because of the close similarity. Maybe they can zip up my Cobalt 2.2L. LOL
I recall there was a company that supplied some parts for 3.8 L's in Bonnevilles and leSabres. That's the last I know about "tuning."
My new TV is light years better than the cutting edge TV I bought 6 or 7 years ago. Prices have dropped too. So much easier to stream Netflix and Hulu. Given that, I tend to buy mid range versions, use a sound bar and subwoofer and call it a day. But if it's a hobby and you enjoy it, why not? Same with laptops and IPads. Nothing lasts decades anymore because the technology keeps changing.
I'm sticking with my Kuro Elite until the prices drop a bit more on OLEDs with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Currently I have a Roku Streaming Stick plugged into my HTR and a Chromecast plugged into the TV. It all works pretty well.
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RB....loved those Pioneer Kuros. I still have one in an extra room. Still a beautiful picture and will probably outlast all the over TVs in my home.
That said, getting the LG OLED during a Black Friday sale last year has spoiled me. Really fantastic PQ. And, it supports both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I've yet to see them sell any cheaper since then, but I'm sure they will once OLED becomes more prevalent.
Skip if you saw similar posted in the Rental Car forum section:
There's an Autobahn Club of LA that is mostly exclusively for Euro cars (with a favoring towards Audi), but all cars are welcome. Did an Angeles Crest Highway (Highway 2) run yesterday. Was a lot of fun, started early by 8 AM..
Stretch of isolated 4-lane road where the professional photographer took what he called rollers (moving pictures at about 30 MPH side by side) pictures of people's cars from another also moving vehicle. Can't wait to see them.
One of the best helping hands was a guy on a large sporty Honda motorbike within the group that helped with traffic control for people that might not realize there were 20 cars behind them in the rear view mirror.
ADDED SPECIAL NOTES:
People were actually for the most part very courteous and realized faster traffic existed for a reason. Not the usual LA experience.
BONUS - JAY LENO sighting at Newcombs parking lot where I got a very good breakfast burrito!
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I thought tuner badges were a way to show off how much money you spent - which is a big part of why people buy these cars to begin with. No different from factory tuned cars with badges like M, AMG, RS.
I saw a RennTech tuned C63 for sale locally awhile back, very obvious badge on that one too.
Well, I suppose there is that element. However, aren't those the garage queens that never get driven like they are meant to be?
Then you have the people that de-badge completely, so you don't know if you might be up against a huge V8 or a puny 4-banger at that stoplight.
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I thought tuner badges were a way to show off how much money you spent - which is a big part of why people buy these cars to begin with. No different from factory tuned cars with badges like M, AMG, RS.
I saw a RennTech tuned C63 for sale locally awhile back, very obvious badge on that one too.
Well, I suppose there is that element. However, aren't those the garage queens that never get driven like they are meant to be?
Then you have the people that de-badge completely, so you don't know if you might be up against a huge V8 or a puny 4-banger at that stoplight.
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You younger folks won't remember this, of course, but I think the biggest development that improved the handling and driveability of cars happened back in the 1960's.
My folks bought me a brand new 1962 Comet, my sophomore year in college. For the times, it was a nice little car, but it would dip and dart all over the road. All cars did that back then, so you had to always be alert and careful. After a year or so the original bias ply tires were replaced with radial tires, which were new to the market. All the dipping and darting went away over night. The improvement was amazing.
Interesting. I know when we bought the 74 Charger I had the dealer swap out the OE bias plys for radials. As I recall that was a bold move for the time so I'm suprised radials were around that long.
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the link above is an government sight to look vical history reports for free! don't have to use car fax and pay anymore got it from the show that I lessen to every day that I post things from on this bord every day!
oh I love the new 2.0T motors. The BMW and Volvo units are great. tons of power, excellent MPG. Drive great.
I've been loving 2.0T motors since 2006. I suppose I dallied with a 3.0 Supercharged V6 for a bit. Nothing wrong with that either.
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
I know you're probably talking about Audis but my V8 got 34mpg on a steady highway drive last week.
Now that's impressive! I remember being shocked as a teenager at the highway mileage on a Corvette being better than I would have suspected.
34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
Yep. Even had the AC on.
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
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Fake paid off my truck today. Got an offer last month from one of my credit cards, pay 1% up front for a year to pay back at zero percent. I took the offer, already made a payment on it and should have my title soon. Kind of dangerous.
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That Gennie looks nice, but I really thought it was a new Infinity and I thought the name sounded like an Infinity G70.....guess it should be Q70 though.
oh I love the new 2.0T motors. The BMW and Volvo units are great. tons of power, excellent MPG. Drive great.
I've been loving 2.0T motors since 2006. I suppose I dallied with a 3.0 Supercharged V6 for a bit. Nothing wrong with that either.
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
I know you're probably talking about Audis but my V8 got 34mpg on a steady highway drive last week.
Now that's impressive! I remember being shocked as a teenager at the highway mileage on a Corvette being better than I would have suspected.
34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
Yep. Even had the AC on.
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
Oh, that poor car! We need legal ramifications for hurting nice cars with awful performance-hindering mods.
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we made last payment on the RDX last week I think (I forget which day it comes out). But mid September. Meaning we should be getting the title in the mail in a few weeks. Been a while since I had a title in the lock box, waiting to get signed!
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
How to you change a tire on one of those cars? There's no clearance. Does the suspension even have any travel room without the tire hitting the body panels?
Technically, most of these are garage queens, as they will never see anything near their potential.
I think debadging is more of a thing in Europe, where people want to disguise a base model. Not that it doesn't exist here, but it must be rarer. I think downbadging would be better - make an M3 a 320i, an M5 a 528i, etc,
oh I love the new 2.0T motors. The BMW and Volvo units are great. tons of power, excellent MPG. Drive great.
I've been loving 2.0T motors since 2006. I suppose I dallied with a 3.0 Supercharged V6 for a bit. Nothing wrong with that either.
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
I know you're probably talking about Audis but my V8 got 34mpg on a steady highway drive last week.
Now that's impressive! I remember being shocked as a teenager at the highway mileage on a Corvette being better than I would have suspected.
34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
Yep. Even had the AC on.
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
Oh, that poor car! We need legal ramifications for hurting nice cars with awful performance-hindering mods.
Don't worry that's just a photo off the internet. The ones I saw weren't all tarted up and still had their badges.
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we made last payment on the RDX last week I think (I forget which day it comes out). But mid September. Meaning we should be getting the title in the mail in a few weeks. Been a while since I had a title in the lock box, waiting to get signed!
That's funny, I have the title for my Ford even though I still owe about $15k. It does list the bank as a lien holder. When it's paid off you get a letter from the bank. You can then get a new title for 50 bucks but don't know why since car dealers and even DMV accepts the release letter as a clear title.
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I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
How to you change a tire on one of those cars? There's no clearance. Does the suspension even have any travel room without the tire hitting the body panels?
I've seen a few BMWs like that and wondered the same thing. Also the cambre on the wheels must wear the tires real fast. Does that do something for tracking?
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oh I love the new 2.0T motors. The BMW and Volvo units are great. tons of power, excellent MPG. Drive great.
I've been loving 2.0T motors since 2006. I suppose I dallied with a 3.0 Supercharged V6 for a bit. Nothing wrong with that either.
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
I know you're probably talking about Audis but my V8 got 34mpg on a steady highway drive last week.
Now that's impressive! I remember being shocked as a teenager at the highway mileage on a Corvette being better than I would have suspected.
34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
Yep. Even had the AC on.
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
Another case where the original car looks better than the customized model:
we made last payment on the RDX last week I think (I forget which day it comes out). But mid September. Meaning we should be getting the title in the mail in a few weeks. Been a while since I had a title in the lock box, waiting to get signed!
That's funny, I have the title for my Ford even though I still owe about $15k. It does list the bank as a lien holder. When it's paid off you get a letter from the bank. You can then get a new title for 50 bucks but don't know why since car dealers and even DMV accepts the release letter as a clear title.
Jersey works differently. The lender physically holds the title, then when paid off, stamps it "released" and sends it to you. Must be a hassle for dealers if you trade your car in with a loan O/S, since they have to wait to receive the title I think.
RB....loved those Pioneer Kuros. I still have one in an extra room. Still a beautiful picture and will probably outlast all the over TVs in my home.
That said, getting the LG OLED during a Black Friday sale last year has spoiled me. Really fantastic PQ. And, it supports both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I've yet to see them sell any cheaper since then, but I'm sure they will once OLED becomes more prevalent.
I'll probably go with an LG- I like having both HDR formats.
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The 370Z Nismo was on my short list until: 1. Car and Driver totalled one at VIR when the brakes went away 2. I learned that Nissan is one of those companies that advertises about how their hot models are "Track ready"- and then void the warranty if you take the car anywhere near a track.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The 370Z Nismo was on my short list until: 1. Car and Driver totalled one at VIR when the brakes went away 2. I learned that Nissan is one of those companies that advertises about how their hot models are "Track ready"- and then void the warranty if you take the car anywhere near a track.
Was that the Nismo? I remember C&D taking a 370z that was supose to be built to track and they burned the brakes out after a few runs.
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The 370Z Nismo was on my short list until: 1. Car and Driver totalled one at VIR when the brakes went away 2. I learned that Nissan is one of those companies that advertises about how their hot models are "Track ready"- and then void the warranty if you take the car anywhere near a track.
Was that the Nismo? I remember C&D taking a 370z that was supose to be built to track and they burned the brakes out after a few runs.
Yes- at the 2009 Lightning Lap. At the time C/D referred to the Nismo as "the least track-worthy car we’ve ever tested at Lightning Lap."
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
If it don't go, chrome it. Still happens, I guess. Poseurs are everywhere, and I'm sure that a profitable number of them bought the Nismo. Sad -- I've considered Nissan to be a decent badge for decades, but this is the sort of thing that gives one pause.
OTOH, it's hard to pass up the PT Barnum segment of the population.
oh I love the new 2.0T motors. The BMW and Volvo units are great. tons of power, excellent MPG. Drive great.
I've been loving 2.0T motors since 2006. I suppose I dallied with a 3.0 Supercharged V6 for a bit. Nothing wrong with that either.
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
I know you're probably talking about Audis but my V8 got 34mpg on a steady highway drive last week.
Now that's impressive! I remember being shocked as a teenager at the highway mileage on a Corvette being better than I would have suspected.
34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
Yep. Even had the AC on.
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
Oh, that poor car! We need legal ramifications for hurting nice cars with awful performance-hindering mods.
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They are capable of making a 200 HP car seem very fast and more like a 250 HP car. They are capable of getting you really good fuel economy; especially if they give you 7 or more gears to work with. They shift lightning fast.
If programmed correctly with a good exhaust, I enjoy the fast-shift "fart" sound of a good quick gear change under engine load.
And yet, I get why people like manuals and still insist on them, despite being slower to accelerate.
Heck, I remember many years ago someone saying they were Stage 4 or 5; and they did have engine issues. Stage 3 ought to be tame in comparison
One of these days I think I would like a V8 or even a V10, but the gas mileage isn't great!
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
They do it for the adjustable suspensions in the R, they should be able to do that for the transmission. Play with the throttle input until it learns what you want better.
I saw a RennTech tuned C63 for sale locally awhile back, very obvious badge on that one too.
I recall there was a company that supplied some parts for 3.8 L's in Bonnevilles and leSabres. That's the last I know about "tuning."
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That said, getting the LG OLED during a Black Friday sale last year has spoiled me. Really fantastic PQ. And, it supports both HDR10 and Dolby Vision. I've yet to see them sell any cheaper since then, but I'm sure they will once OLED becomes more prevalent.
Skip if you saw similar posted in the Rental Car forum section:
There's an Autobahn Club of LA that is mostly exclusively for Euro cars (with a favoring towards Audi), but all cars are welcome. Did an Angeles Crest Highway (Highway 2) run yesterday. Was a lot of fun, started early by 8 AM..
Stretch of isolated 4-lane road where the professional photographer took what he called rollers (moving pictures at about 30 MPH side by side) pictures of people's cars from another also moving vehicle. Can't wait to see them.
One of the best helping hands was a guy on a large sporty Honda motorbike within the group that helped with traffic control for people that might not realize there were 20 cars behind them in the rear view mirror.
ADDED SPECIAL NOTES:
People were actually for the most part very courteous and realized faster traffic existed for a reason. Not the usual LA experience.
BONUS - JAY LENO sighting at Newcombs parking lot where I got a very good breakfast burrito!
I'm sure those companies would be happy to sell you some stickers for your Malibu.
Then you have the people that de-badge completely, so you don't know if you might be up against a huge V8 or a puny 4-banger at that stoplight.
Then you have the people that de-badge completely, so you don't know if you might be up against a huge V8 or a puny 4-banger at that stoplight.
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34 MPG is fantastic, but were you following the speed limit?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-trucks/watch-this-ford-f-150-ecoboost-blow-the-doors-off-a-hellcat/ar-AAs4RSj?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=DELLDHP
Speaking of 6cyl. I saw not one but two Nissan 370z Nizmos today. Wonder if there was a club meeting. One was black the other copper colored.
I see the Nizmos puts out 350hp. Mitsu had a similar displacement V6, why couldn't they get similar output? If my Eclipse had that I never would have traded.
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I took the offer, already made a payment on it and should have my title soon.
Kind of dangerous.
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I think debadging is more of a thing in Europe, where people want to disguise a base model. Not that it doesn't exist here, but it must be rarer. I think downbadging would be better - make an M3 a 320i, an M5 a 528i, etc,
You can run a VIN check for theft or salvage for free here:
https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck
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Don't worry that's just a photo off the internet. The ones I saw weren't all tarted up and still had their badges.
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That's funny, I have the title for my Ford even though I still owe about $15k. It does list the bank as a lien holder. When it's paid off you get a letter from the bank. You can then get a new title for 50 bucks but don't know why since car dealers and even DMV accepts the release letter as a clear title.
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I've seen a few BMWs like that and wondered the same thing. Also the cambre on the wheels must wear the tires real fast. Does that do something for tracking?
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Why would you ruin a nice looking car?
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
1. Car and Driver totalled one at VIR when the brakes went away
2. I learned that Nissan is one of those companies that advertises about how their hot models are "Track ready"- and then void the warranty if you take the car anywhere near a track.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
OTOH, it's hard to pass up the PT Barnum segment of the population.
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That's hideous!
A kid up the street has his ATS all debadged (which, I guess isn't too bad) and all the chrome is dipped black. It was a really nice car...
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