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fintail

This appears to be the most expensive Seattle-area listing

A lot classier than some of the 5-15MM "mcmansion hell"-worthy monstrosities in the area. Those bootstrapping Horatio Alger types have some questionable taste.

If someone is going to keep a new car for 10 years or so, resale might not be a huge issue. I'd probably lean towards Honda too, although I am not a fan of the styling - not a fan of the styling of the competition either. I might go Optima over Sonata,

ab348

fintail said:

This appears to be the most expensive Seattle-area listing

A lot classier than some of the 5-15MM "mcmansion hell"-worthy monstrosities in the area. Those bootstrapping Horatio Alger types have some questionable taste.

Certainly a real old-money place. That view is fabulous. Gardens seem to have taken over a bit too much for my taste, but they are mostly well-kept at least. Trimming those hedges must be an expensive proposition. A shame there aren't any interior pics of the main house. Hope it isn't so dated that the owner has to use that little cabin as his living quarters.

28firefighter

Gorgeous property in an excellent location. 

snakeweasel

isellhondas said:

isellhondas said:

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To my eye the 2018 Sonata beats the 2018 Accord and the 2018 Camry in the styling and looks dept. Primarily due to the front end (grill, etc.) looks.

Looks are so subjective. In ten years the Sonata will be worth a whole lot less then the Accord or Camry if that's important. I'll say Hyundai has come a LONG, LONG way!

Yes in 10 years the Sonata will be worth a lot less than an Accord or a Camry but let's be honest brand new the Accord and the Camry cost a lot more. 

It doesn't make sense to buy a Camry over a Sonata simply because it will be worth a few thousand more in ten years if your paying 3 to 4 grand more for the Camry now. 

Actually the difference in price has really narrowed in recent years.

Well you better tell that to the dealership here as they have the Sonatas thousands less than either the Accords or Camrys. I can save a good 3 grand or more by getting the Sonata over the Accord. 

Well, assuming you can save three grand buying a Sonata and then losing that three grand (or more) later down the road, I guess it becomes a choice of buying the car that appeals the most to you. Although I REALLY like the new Sonatas I would still be biased toward the Accord. But, that's me!

If I save 3 thousand and I sell it for 3 thousand less 10 years down the road I would still be ahead as I wouldn't have had that 3 grand locked up in the car, not to mention interest paid if I financed. 

That being said I went to the Kelly Blue Book website and compaired my wifes 2011 Sonata to a comparably equiped Accord and the Accord was worth around 1,500 more. I would think that difference would shrink by 2021. 

Mr_Shiftright

imidazol97 said:

It's not the nails in the yard that are likely to get in the car tires. It's the nails from the shingles that are in the trailer into which they dump everything off the roof. The nails that are loose fall out through the cracks and other openings onto the road as the trailer is pulled down the street.

We drive a route that goes to the county site where bulk dumping is accepted and there are a lot of roofer trailers heading to that location. So far I got a small trim type nail in one rear tire. Slow leak before I found it. I'm sure I got it on I75 or the access street past the county "incinerator" location.

Those large flat-top nails are the worst. The tires kick them up and straighten them out--perfect for a puncture.

Mr_Shiftright

snakeweasel said:

stickguy said:

I spend a lot of time looking online. Pretty much all I need from the realtor is to open the lockbox and let me in (or bring someone to my house), and fill out some paperwork.

So do I but I look at houses that I will never be able to afford. Did you know that in Chicago there is a 50 million dollar house for sale?

I'd sell that for 3% commission.

fintail

Interesting place, as when it was built, there was no direct bridge to the eastside (there wouldn't be until 1940). It would have been a long trek around the south or north to get there back in the day. A lot more maintenance than I'd want to think about, but if I could afford it, I could also afford some full-time help to keep it going.

Sadly, there's more than zero chance that the house would get knocked down to build a mcmodern box or a neoclassic cliche, and maybe subdivide the lot. This area has a dearth of nice old housing stock, and very little in the way of historic preservation - especially in the eastside suburbs. One can hope the next owners keep the place up, looks like a nice brick tudor with materials that probably can't be replicated today.

That could probably be considered the "best" location, at least IMO.

ab348 said:

Certainly a real old-money place. That view is fabulous. Gardens seem to have taken over a bit too much for my taste, but they are mostly well-kept at least. Trimming those hedges must be an expensive proposition. A shame there aren't any interior pics of the main house. Hope it isn't so dated that the owner has to use that little cabin as his living quarters.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

You should become a bus driver. I can walk into any school district in the country and have a job in 5 minutes.

That job and septic tank pumper are always looking.

I have a friend who started a septic pumping service; one day he was at my house pumping out my tank and I had to take a call. I told my buddy I had to take the call because it involved an emergency child custody case. My friend said, "Man, I couldn't do your job!" I thought to myself, the feeling is mutual...

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

explorerx4 said:

@nyccarguy,
When I read ab348's post, I thought you would be the perfect one to reply.
Sorry I didn't notice it right away, I'm too busy watching the Yankees game.

GO YANKEES!

Sorry, I can't support those heartbreakers until they repay me my $1 allowance that I lost betting on them in the 1964 World Series.

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

Generally speaking, trying to influence people with gifts only got me business relationships with people who wanted more “gifts”. Did it work? Yeah! But, it worked with people I didn’t like doing business with.

However, overall my salary rose 20%-30% for each move to another company over what I would have made sticking with whatever company I happened to be working for at the time.

One friend of mine said my resume could easily be a novella as a result, though!

Now days HR people think it is a liability if you stay with one employer for too long - you aren't adventurous, you are prone to getting stale. Changing jobs is the new way to climb the ladder.

Offering a bribe, kind of says you are susceptible to a bribe too. It also means you don't think enough of the hiring person....you think they can be influenced by a bribe,

I once had to deal with a department store buyer who always liked to be taken out to fancy restaurants. Once she picked one that had valet service .......... very expensive. One day she got canned....a towel salesman complained when she gave him an order for expensive samples she wanted, in order to get his product into the stores. That was against company policy, as it should be.

Driver....points well taken. I know folks who are still at my old “copier company” (they prefer the term “document management” company these days). I never divulge my current compensation. But, they sometimes tell me “if you had stuck around, you’d be making $xxx,xxxx by now). I smile and nod, knowing their figure is well below what I currently make.

So, there’s truth to the belief if you move around a bit, you give yourself bigger raises.

I haven’t sent “thank you” gifts for a long, long time. Even when signing a big deal, I’d send the principals of the deals Monte Blanc pens. I don’t even do that anymore.

That said, I’ve been offered “bribes” to join companies. They call them signing bonuses.

The reason this has come to the forefront, for me at least, I’m being pursued by another company in the tech field to take over Americas Biz Dev and Marketing. We’re doing the “dance” right now, having some conversations about duties and responsibilities and touching just a little on compensation. They didn’t run away laughing hysterically when I told them what I would expect, so we’ll see where this goes.

I know many here have been in the job market recently. Following all of you and your experiences have proven valuable information as I re-connect in the current market.

Q....for what it’s worth, I don’t think recruiters are all that valuable any more. It’s relatively easy to find someone on line via the WEB.

All of the recruiters I used to know are now doing other things as their business dried up with LinkedIn and WEB sites of that ilk marking it a lot easier to find qualified people.

The good news, the job market is tight right now. So, I expect you to be able to find something relatively quickly, Q!

I was recently recruited to sell apples on the street corner and since I told my previous employer that is what I would rather do than work for him i took the job.

I also have a head hunter asking me to drive gelato to NYC which I'm considering. It's great to be in demand.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@nyccarguy, When I read ab348's post, I thought you would be the perfect one to reply. Sorry I didn't notice it right away, I'm too busy watching the Yankees game.

GO YANKEES!

Sorry, I can't support those heartbreakers until they repay me my $1 allowance that I lost betting on them in the 1964 World Series.

Adjusted for inflation that would be close to $8.00.  Or the price of a cup of coke at the ballpark. 

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

Generally speaking, trying to influence people with gifts only got me business relationships with people who wanted more “gifts”. Did it work? Yeah! But, it worked with people I didn’t like doing business with. However, overall my salary rose 20%-30% for each move to another company over what I would have made sticking with whatever company I happened to be working for at the time. One friend of mine said my resume could easily be a novella as a result, though!

Now days HR people think it is a liability if you stay with one employer for too long - you aren't adventurous, you are prone to getting stale. Changing jobs is the new way to climb the ladder. Offering a bribe, kind of says you are susceptible to a bribe too. It also means you don't think enough of the hiring person....you think they can be influenced by a bribe, I once had to deal with a department store buyer who always liked to be taken out to fancy restaurants. Once she picked one that had valet service .......... very expensive. One day she got canned....a towel salesman complained when she gave him an order for expensive samples she wanted, in order to get his product into the stores. That was against company policy, as it should be.

Driver....points well taken. I know folks who are still at my old “copier company” (they prefer the term “document management” company these days). I never divulge my current compensation. But, they sometimes tell me “if you had stuck around, you’d be making $xxx,xxxx by now). I smile and nod, knowing their figure is well below what I currently make. So, there’s truth to the belief if you move around a bit, you give yourself bigger raises. I haven’t sent “thank you” gifts for a long, long time. Even when signing a big deal, I’d send the principals of the deals Monte Blanc pens. I don’t even do that anymore. That said, I’ve been offered “bribes” to join companies. They call them signing bonuses. The reason this has come to the forefront, for me at least, I’m being pursued by another company in the tech field to take over Americas Biz Dev and Marketing. We’re doing the “dance” right now, having some conversations about duties and responsibilities and touching just a little on compensation. They didn’t run away laughing hysterically when I told them what I would expect, so we’ll see where this goes. I know many here have been in the job market recently. Following all of you and your experiences have proven valuable information as I re-connect in the current market. Q....for what it’s worth, I don’t think recruiters are all that valuable any more. It’s relatively easy to find someone on line via the WEB. All of the recruiters I used to know are now doing other things as their business dried up with LinkedIn and WEB sites of that ilk marking it a lot easier to find qualified people. The good news, the job market is tight right now. So, I expect you to be able to find something relatively quickly, Q!

I was recently recruited to sell apples on the street corner and since I told my previous employer that is what I would rather do than work for him i took the job. I also have a head hunter asking me to drive gelato to NYC which I'm considering. It's great to be in demand.

Would you consider a job standing on a corner yelling at traffic?

driver100

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

This one in Toronto is only $35 million....it is for pikers!

That's in worthless Canadian dollars, it's a real bargain at only $28 million USD.

The guy who owns it (shown in the article below) looks too young to have such a place. And where do you go from there? Hard to move up, but could you be happy downsizing?

https://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2017/08/30/inside-the-most-expensive-home-on-the-toronto-market.html

He doesn't look too old but I did find some biographical info; Springer, a lawyer and venture capitalist, together with his wife, a managing partner of a major international law firm, Plus there could be some old family money involved. Inheritances can be quite large these days.

jmonroe

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

explorerx4 said:

@nyccarguy,
When I read ab348's post, I thought you would be the perfect one to reply.
Sorry I didn't notice it right away, I'm too busy watching the Yankees game.

GO YANKEES!

Sorry, I can't support those heartbreakers until they repay me my $1 allowance that I lost betting on them in the 1964 World Series.

Adjusted for inflation that would be close to $8.00.  Or the price of a cup of coke at the ballpark. 

How about this:

If he bet on the '60 Yanks he'd have lost his allowance that year too. I wonder who they lost to that year ? But he'd have even more money today. Yeah, sometimes losers win.

I'll let you do the math and break it to him. I don't have the heart to do that to an old poster buddy.

jmonroe

ab348

I have 3 tire pressure gauges, two of them the old pencil-type (though neither of them are very old) and one dial type which I have had for years. I never had issues with any of them in the past and they all work fine on my Cutlass. But now, none of them seem to work right on the new ATS. It's weird - on any given tire, the 3 of them all give different readings, and one of them barely gets a reading of above 15psi on a couple of wheels. Even more strangely, even on tires where all 3 can get a reading, none of them match the numbers shown by the TPMS.

Has something changed with valves recently?

fintail

No doubt they are intelligent successful people, but probably some dynastic wealth involved, I agree. It's a big part of what's out there.

A few hundred grand invested in metro Toronto real estate 40 years ago would be a real fortune today, would help a lot to back those ventures.

driver100 said:

He doesn't look too old but I did find some biographical info; Springer, a lawyer and venture capitalist, together with his wife, a managing partner of a major international law firm, Plus there could be some old family money involved. Inheritances can be quite large these days.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

Generally speaking, trying to influence people with gifts only got me business relationships with people who wanted more “gifts”. Did it work? Yeah! But, it worked with people I didn’t like doing business with.

However, overall my salary rose 20%-30% for each move to another company over what I would have made sticking with whatever company I happened to be working for at the time.

One friend of mine said my resume could easily be a novella as a result, though!

Now days HR people think it is a liability if you stay with one employer for too long - you aren't adventurous, you are prone to getting stale. Changing jobs is the new way to climb the ladder.

Offering a bribe, kind of says you are susceptible to a bribe too. It also means you don't think enough of the hiring person....you think they can be influenced by a bribe,

I once had to deal with a department store buyer who always liked to be taken out to fancy restaurants. Once she picked one that had valet service .......... very expensive. One day she got canned....a towel salesman complained when she gave him an order for expensive samples she wanted, in order to get his product into the stores. That was against company policy, as it should be.

Driver....points well taken. I know folks who are still at my old “copier company” (they prefer the term “document management” company these days). I never divulge my current compensation. But, they sometimes tell me “if you had stuck around, you’d be making $xxx,xxxx by now). I smile and nod, knowing their figure is well below what I currently make.

So, there’s truth to the belief if you move around a bit, you give yourself bigger raises.

I haven’t sent “thank you” gifts for a long, long time. Even when signing a big deal, I’d send the principals of the deals Monte Blanc pens. I don’t even do that anymore.

That said, I’ve been offered “bribes” to join companies. They call them signing bonuses.

The reason this has come to the forefront, for me at least, I’m being pursued by another company in the tech field to take over Americas Biz Dev and Marketing. We’re doing the “dance” right now, having some conversations about duties and responsibilities and touching just a little on compensation. They didn’t run away laughing hysterically when I told them what I would expect, so we’ll see where this goes.

I know many here have been in the job market recently. Following all of you and your experiences have proven valuable information as I re-connect in the current market.

Q....for what it’s worth, I don’t think recruiters are all that valuable any more. It’s relatively easy to find someone on line via the WEB.

All of the recruiters I used to know are now doing other things as their business dried up with LinkedIn and WEB sites of that ilk marking it a lot easier to find qualified people.

The good news, the job market is tight right now. So, I expect you to be able to find something relatively quickly, Q!

I was recently recruited to sell apples on the street corner and since I told my previous employer that is what I would rather do than work for him i took the job.

I also have a head hunter asking me to drive gelato to NYC which I'm considering. It's great to be in demand.

Would you consider a job standing on a corner yelling at traffic?

I'd be a natural for that job as I have years of experience yelling at the TV. Just ask my wife. What street are you hiring for?

oldfarmer50

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases.

What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is?

https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

houdini1

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

ab348 said:

Hmmm. This is the most expensive one I can find here, a mere pittance by comparison. And only a 2-car garage!

https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Home-For-Sale/NS/Halifax/South-End-Halifax/6400-Oakland-Rd/37735583.html

Here is the one I was talking about. 

https://jamesonsir.com/wovaxproperty/1932-n-burling-street/

Annual taxes are 280K. 

Geez, I wouldn't want to have to do the vacuuming!

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

ab348 said:

Hmmm. This is the most expensive one I can find here, a mere pittance by comparison. And only a 2-car garage!

https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Home-For-Sale/NS/Halifax/South-End-Halifax/6400-Oakland-Rd/37735583.html

Here is the one I was talking about. 

https://jamesonsir.com/wovaxproperty/1932-n-burling-street/

Annual taxes are 280K. 

Geez, I wouldn't want to have to do the vacuuming!



Just clearing a draft?

jmonroe

ab348 said:

I have 3 tire pressure gauges, two of them the old pencil-type (though neither of them are very old) and one dial type which I have had for years. I never had issues with any of them in the past and they all work fine on my Cutlass. But now, none of them seem to work right on the new ATS. It's weird - on any given tire, the 3 of them all give different readings, and one of them barely gets a reading of above 15psi on a couple of wheels. Even more strangely, even on tires where all 3 can get a reading, none of them match the numbers shown by the TPMS.

Has something changed with valves recently?

I was out to dinner when I first saw this and I'm surprised none of your buddies have tried to answer this. Maybe most in here are dopes about things like this but not me.

As you said, your older tire measuring devices worked fine with your Cutlass but not now with your new ATS with the TPMS feature. It more than likely is because the new Schrader valve stems on your ATS are probably recessed a little more than the old Schrader style valve stems on your Cutlass. Since it is recessed, the stub on your devices can't make proper contact with the recessed TPMS stems. Therefore, you are not getting a good depression of the recessed stem on the TPMS Schrader valve which is causing an erroneous reading.

As for matching your TPMS readout, like I said, that is because of the bad contact with your ATS Schrader valve stems. I have not seen any tire pressure measuring devices that say they are made to work with a TPMS but maybe that is because all of them sold today are capable of that, and have been for many years, but you'd think manufactures would tout that feature.

Until you find a tire pressure device that can make good contact with your TPMS valve stems, I'd go by what your readout display shows.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

roadburner said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.



Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases.

What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is?

https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

Disclaimer: Stk#: T1635 MSRP: $42,895

*F-150 Lease Offer: With approved credit plus tax, title & MV fees. Price includes $750 RCL Renewal Rebate and $1,000 Bonus Cash. Ford rebates retained by dealer. Ttl pymt: $12,060. Purch opt: $25,308.05. Incl 10.5K mi/yr, $0.20 each add’l mi. Lessee resp for maint & excess wear & tear. . *Lease payment subject to primary lender approval. Must have a minimum Fico® credit score of 680 to qualify. Prices and incentives based on current manufacturer’s programs which are subject to change. See dealer for details. Photos for illustration purposes only. Offers cannot be combined. Expires 10/31/17

Probably "one at this price", also 10.5K miles per year, FICO over 680, subject to finance approval, blah blah.

ab348

jmonroe said:

As you said, your older tire measuring devices worked fine with your Cutlass but not now with your new ATS with the TPMS feature. It more than likely is because the new Schrader valve stems on your ATS are probably recessed a little more than the old Schrader style valve stems on your Cutlass. Since it is recessed, the stub on your devices can't make proper contact with the recessed TPMS stems. Therefore, you are not getting a good depression of the recessed stem on the TPMS Schrader valve which is causing an erroneous reading.

As for matching your TPMS readout, like I said, that is because of the bad contact with your ATS Schrader valve stems. I have not seen any tire pressure measuring devices that say they are made to work with a TPMS but maybe that is because all of them sold today are capable of that, and have been for many years, but you'd think manufactures would tout that feature.

Thanks, JM. That makes sense. I better shop for a new gauge.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

oldfarmer50 said:

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases.

What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is?

https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

Disclaimer: Stk#: T1635 MSRP: $42,895

*F-150 Lease Offer: With approved credit plus tax, title & MV fees. Price includes $750 RCL Renewal Rebate and $1,000 Bonus Cash. Ford rebates retained by dealer. Ttl pymt: $12,060. Purch opt: $25,308.05. Incl 10.5K mi/yr, $0.20 each add’l mi. Lessee resp for maint & excess wear & tear. . *Lease payment subject to primary lender approval. Must have a minimum Fico® credit score of 680 to qualify. Prices and incentives based on current manufacturer’s programs which are subject to change. See dealer for details. Photos for illustration purposes only. Offers cannot be combined. Expires 10/31/17

Probably "one at this price", also 10.5K miles per year, FICO over 680, subject to finance approval, blah blah.

I think it does work....total payments come to $12060. Buy back at end is $25308. MSRP is $42895. Toatal amount paid $37360, so car was discounted $5000. Skinny or probably no profit...haven't added in interest.
Like you said....only one available....probably purple, or fell off the truck at delivery.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.


Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

driver100

OF

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.

Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

stickguy

AB, or just use the TPMS display. I have found mine to be amazingly accurate. Only use the gauge when I actually have to put air in the tires.

fordfool

ab348 said:

Even more strangely, even on tires where all 3 can get a reading,
none of them match the numbers shown by the TPMS.

Has something changed with valves recently?

After rotating his tires my brother was going nuts looking for the problem
indicated by the TPMS. It was the spare tire.

oldfarmer50

Mr_Shiftright said:

oldfarmer50 said:

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases.

What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is?

https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

Disclaimer: Stk#: T1635 MSRP: $42,895

*F-150 Lease Offer: With approved credit plus tax, title & MV fees. Price includes $750 RCL Renewal Rebate and $1,000 Bonus Cash. Ford rebates retained by dealer. Ttl pymt: $12,060. Purch opt: $25,308.05. Incl 10.5K mi/yr, $0.20 each add’l mi. Lessee resp for maint & excess wear & tear. . *Lease payment subject to primary lender approval. Must have a minimum Fico® credit score of 680 to qualify. Prices and incentives based on current manufacturer’s programs which are subject to change. See dealer for details. Photos for illustration purposes only. Offers cannot be combined. Expires 10/31/17

Probably "one at this price", also 10.5K miles per year, FICO over 680, subject to finance approval, blah blah.

I saw those qualifiers including the one that they are considering a $1k bonus for a previous lease renewal or switch. The rest didn't seem too bad.

But you think this is a one off bait and switch? The MSRP is listed at $42k. Certainly they would have similar trucks for that price.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.


Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

They were driven by mom. Probably almost 1/4 mile because the driveway looped back and forth in graceful arcs. It was some sort of Land Rover if i remember. Nice kids.

sda

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

We proactively replaced a Bradford White 50 gal nat gas that was trouble free for 12 years. The plumber replaced it with an A O Smith of similar specs. No issues.

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

59 gallon, and it has to be electric, as we aren't able to connect to a gas line.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases. What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is? https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

Disclaimer: Stk#: T1635 MSRP: $42,895 *F-150 Lease Offer: With approved credit plus tax, title & MV fees. Price includes $750 RCL Renewal Rebate and $1,000 Bonus Cash. Ford rebates retained by dealer. Ttl pymt: $12,060. Purch opt: $25,308.05. Incl 10.5K mi/yr, $0.20 each add’l mi. Lessee resp for maint & excess wear & tear. . *Lease payment subject to primary lender approval. Must have a minimum Fico® credit score of 680 to qualify. Prices and incentives based on current manufacturer’s programs which are subject to change. See dealer for details. Photos for illustration purposes only. Offers cannot be combined. Expires 10/31/17 Probably "one at this price", also 10.5K miles per year, FICO over 680, subject to finance approval, blah blah.

I saw those qualifiers including the one that they are considering a $1k bonus for a previous lease renewal or switch. The rest didn't seem too bad. But you think this is a one off bait and switch? The MSRP is listed at $42k. Certainly they would have similar trucks for that price.

I would not consider it a screaming deal at just 10.5k miles a year. $5k discount is not very good. Actually 4250 after taking away the 750 renewal bonus. I'm not positive, but I think mine was more like $8k off. Granted, of course, this is a 2018 vs my 2017.

driver100

Don't forget, there is interest on the $37000 for 3 years to account for. Your $8000 discount looks like it would come out about the same....but, this particular truck is probably minimal, a.m. radio, manual, GPS is a compass, etc.

houdini1

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.

Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

They were driven by mom. Probably almost 1/4 mile because the driveway looped back and forth in graceful arcs. It was some sort of Land Rover if i remember. Nice kids.



Given their wealth, kind of surprising the kids went to public schools.

ab348

stickguy said:

AB, or just use the TPMS display. I have found mine to be amazingly accurate. Only use the gauge when I actually have to put air in the tires.

That's what I have been trying to do.

This started about a week ago when I noticed the LF tire was down from what it had been showing on the TPMS. I was worried it had developed a slow leak so I aired it up and tried using my gauge to see how accurate things were. That's when things went off the rails. Still not sure if it has a leak or not.

imidazol97

As to the tire gauges, I asked my quality tire store what they used to check. I thought they'd have a quality unit for checking air. Manager said they just buy the pencil gauges and keep replacing them--i.e., they keep buying replacements so none of them age meaning the elastic "rubber" innards have time to age. To check for accuracy of the ones they get, they just compare it against two others they already have.

I bought a metal shelled, round gauge and compared it with one of the tire store's gauges. Mine was 1 pound low. I then referenced it to my old gauge at home and opened the case and adjusted the dial so my new gauge read the same as the other two I had used as reference.

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

Generally speaking, trying to influence people with gifts only got me business relationships with people who wanted more “gifts”. Did it work? Yeah! But, it worked with people I didn’t like doing business with.

However, overall my salary rose 20%-30% for each move to another company over what I would have made sticking with whatever company I happened to be working for at the time.

One friend of mine said my resume could easily be a novella as a result, though!

Now days HR people think it is a liability if you stay with one employer for too long - you aren't adventurous, you are prone to getting stale. Changing jobs is the new way to climb the ladder.

Offering a bribe, kind of says you are susceptible to a bribe too. It also means you don't think enough of the hiring person....you think they can be influenced by a bribe,

I once had to deal with a department store buyer who always liked to be taken out to fancy restaurants. Once she picked one that had valet service .......... very expensive. One day she got canned....a towel salesman complained when she gave him an order for expensive samples she wanted, in order to get his product into the stores. That was against company policy, as it should be.

Driver....points well taken. I know folks who are still at my old “copier company” (they prefer the term “document management” company these days). I never divulge my current compensation. But, they sometimes tell me “if you had stuck around, you’d be making $xxx,xxxx by now). I smile and nod, knowing their figure is well below what I currently make.

So, there’s truth to the belief if you move around a bit, you give yourself bigger raises.

I haven’t sent “thank you” gifts for a long, long time. Even when signing a big deal, I’d send the principals of the deals Monte Blanc pens. I don’t even do that anymore.

That said, I’ve been offered “bribes” to join companies. They call them signing bonuses.

The reason this has come to the forefront, for me at least, I’m being pursued by another company in the tech field to take over Americas Biz Dev and Marketing. We’re doing the “dance” right now, having some conversations about duties and responsibilities and touching just a little on compensation. They didn’t run away laughing hysterically when I told them what I would expect, so we’ll see where this goes.

I know many here have been in the job market recently. Following all of you and your experiences have proven valuable information as I re-connect in the current market.

Q....for what it’s worth, I don’t think recruiters are all that valuable any more. It’s relatively easy to find someone on line via the WEB.

All of the recruiters I used to know are now doing other things as their business dried up with LinkedIn and WEB sites of that ilk marking it a lot easier to find qualified people.

The good news, the job market is tight right now. So, I expect you to be able to find something relatively quickly, Q!

I was recently recruited to sell apples on the street corner and since I told my previous employer that is what I would rather do than work for him i took the job.

I also have a head hunter asking me to drive gelato to NYC which I'm considering. It's great to be in demand.

I think the gelato gig would be good. I like chocolate, please!

driver100

Tire gauges. I like the digital ones these days.

driver100

houdini1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.

Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

They were driven by mom. Probably almost 1/4 mile because the driveway looped back and forth in graceful arcs. It was some sort of Land Rover if i remember. Nice kids.



Given their wealth, kind of surprising the kids went to public schools.

That is what parents do here a lot....drive the kids to the school bus........which is one or two blocks away!

I used to walk about 15 blocks to school, and that was when winters were really bad and we didn't have newer materials like Gortex and down filled coats, or Canada Goose and Storm Tech winterware.

ab348

driver100 said:

I used to walk about 15 blocks to school, and that was when winters were really bad and we didn't have newer materials like Gortex and down filled coats, or Canada Goose and Storm Tech winterware.

And uphill both ways of course.

Mr_Shiftright

imidazol97 said:

As to the tire gauges, I asked my quality tire store what they used to check. I thought they'd have a quality unit for checking air. Manager said they just buy the pencil gauges and keep replacing them--i.e., they keep buying replacements so none of them age meaning the elastic "rubber" innards have time to age. To check for accuracy of the ones they get, they just compare it against two others they already have.

I bought a metal shelled, round gauge and compared it with one of the tire store's gauges. Mine was 1 pound low. I then referenced it to my old gauge at home and opened the case and adjusted the dial so my new gauge read the same as the other two I had used as reference.

I just got one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y1P56VG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And I really like it. You clamp it on, (easy, no fiddling) and it gives you your TP; then you press the buttons to dial in the desired pressure, hit start and it'll pump away until your pressure is reached. I filled up four bicycle tires from 0, then re-adjusted all four car tires and put a few pounds in each, did the same with the truck, and still seem to have plenty of juice left.

Only "downside" is to add 5 lbs to a car tire takes a little time, and the hose will get hot. Runs off D batteries. I think it could fill an entire car tire on the road while you sip some coffee.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

On a more serious note I'd like those in the know to go through this lease offer by a local dealership. The triple zero down seems on the surface to be attractive but the devil is in the details with leases.

What other info would you need to decide how good an offer this is?

https://www.depaulaford.com/special-offer/3178/

Disclaimer: Stk#: T1635 MSRP: $42,895

*F-150 Lease Offer: With approved credit plus tax, title & MV fees. Price includes $750 RCL Renewal Rebate and $1,000 Bonus Cash. Ford rebates retained by dealer. Ttl pymt: $12,060. Purch opt: $25,308.05. Incl 10.5K mi/yr, $0.20 each add’l mi. Lessee resp for maint & excess wear & tear. . *Lease payment subject to primary lender approval. Must have a minimum Fico® credit score of 680 to qualify. Prices and incentives based on current manufacturer’s programs which are subject to change. See dealer for details. Photos for illustration purposes only. Offers cannot be combined. Expires 10/31/17

Probably "one at this price", also 10.5K miles per year, FICO over 680, subject to finance approval, blah blah.

I saw those qualifiers including the one that they are considering a $1k bonus for a previous lease renewal or switch. The rest didn't seem too bad.

But you think this is a one off bait and switch? The MSRP is listed at $42k. Certainly they would have similar trucks for that price.





I would not consider it a screaming deal at just 10.5k miles a year. $5k discount is not very good. Actually 4250 after taking away the 750 renewal bonus. I'm not positive, but I think mine was more like $8k off. Granted, of course, this is a 2018 vs my 2017.

This dealer had a $249 triple zero lease on a 2017 F-150 I think. I'd have to check. These seem reasonable rates and I was just looking for the scam. A nothing down lease at $335 isn't bad especially if they're discounting a brand new model$4-5k.

It just caught my eye because usually a good monthly rate requires a lòt of money up front.

oldfarmer50

houdini1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

nyccarguy said:

ab348 said:

Home preventative maintenance is on my mind too. Last Friday I had a knock at my back door from my 92 y-o neighbor, in a state of panic. Her basement was flooded after her electric hot water heater let go. While I was there with a couple of other neighbors helping her out, the plumber arrived to remove the faulty one and install a new one. She said it was only 7 years old - unfortunately the warranty was 6 years (another plumber had installed it). That got me to thinking that my electric hot water heater is 11 years old and that perhaps it might be on borrowed time. Seeing the damage done to her finished basement, I was thinking a preventative replacement might be in order.

I would replace that NOW if not sooner.  Make sure the plumber installs a "FLOODSTOP" so if it does blow, the water doesn't keep gushing out.  

What electric brands do you like? I think ours is like 15 years old...

I'm not a huge fan of electrics per say.  I don't stock water heaters.  That being said, I'd stick with either a Rheem or an AO Smith.  Go with a heater with a longer warranty (10 year vs. 6 year).

I'd suggest a tankless heater, but that might be too much of an expense.  

What size is the heater you have now?  40, 50, or 80 gallon?

Glad you mention AO Smith as that was what we got on our emergency repair.

In the expensive house contest I'd like to enter this little beauty from my area.


Reportedly cost $10 million to build in 1990 but it may have been jinxed. The builder went to jail, one owner was convicted of holding illegal aliens in slavery and another owner and his child died in a plane crash in the river. It sold recently for only $1.9 million.

I use to pick up the children on my bus run.

Did the kids have to walk all the way to the road....or did you drive in?

They were driven by mom. Probably almost 1/4 mile because the driveway looped back and forth in graceful arcs. It was some sort of Land Rover if i remember. Nice kids.



Given their wealth, kind of surprising the kids went to public schools.

They went to the local Catholic school. Private but not exclusive.

driver100

Are there any private schools in rural NY state?
It would seem a private school would have to be in a fairly heavily populated area.

iluvmysephia1

2018 Subaru Impreza sedan

Here's the sedan and latest favorite color I want for my Impreza. It's called Island Blue Pearl. The website to the place I would deal with says the car is still "in transit." I have been thinking about this and driving our 2011 Kia Soul 5-speed base and enjoying the car a lot. It's just over 90,000 miles now. I'm just thinking about the trade-in value being low, but that's not the main thing. I can drive fairly well in inclement weather, and the Mrs. will not like me making a deal on a 2017 Subaru Impreza. I don't even feel like we could have a conversation about it. And we're still paying on the Soul, too. So, I have put this car on the very top of my list if I do get a wild hair and want to buy. I need to head in to the Licensing Office in Chelan and get the Soul registered in Washington state on Monday. I was gonna just not do it and, if trading in for an Impreza, let the dealer deal with it not being registered in Washington state yet.

On a Subaru Impreza chatroom early buyers of the car love their purchase and some are modding them up, of course. I'm going to keep asking questions on there and keep learning about the car. This car, at a MSRP of $19,255 (includes destination) is a good deal, in my estimation. With symmetrical AWD fulltime and Android Auto and the cool Subaru information center on the top of the stack, I would love having this car. I'm not ditching the idea yet!

This car tracks well and is getting good reviews from test drive reviewers. No, it's not a speed demon, but that's not me and that's not what I want, either. It's body design is primo, the Subaru look is primo and I'm hooked. This love will continue, car fiends!

abacomike

Had nothing to do after my walk this morning so I decided to test drive the 2018 Cadillac CT6 Platinum with the 3.0 L Twin Turbo AWD.

I entered the dealership and was approached by a senior sales associate.  He must have been in his 60’s.  I explained I was there to look at and drive the CT6 w/the 3.0 Twin Turbo.  He brought one around and handed me the key.  I got into the driver’s seat and adjusted it to suit my comfort.  The seats were a bit stiff, but seemed to grab me in all the right places to make me feel very relaxed and nicely supported.

The salesman tried to show me all the gizmos and buttons and systems, but it was too confusing to me - not unlike my first test drive of the BMW 740i with all the options.  When in doubt in these technologically advanced cars, just press the voice recognition button on the steering wheel and tell the computer what you want to accomplish - and it did.  The technology on this car is outlandish - just as are the BMW’s, MB’s, Audi’s, etc.  You are hit immediately by a ton of information that startles you at first.  I especially liked the rear view camera set-up which is shown through the rear view mirror - an interesting and logical place for the camera image.

This is a very heavy riding car - just like all its competitors’ vehicles.  But this American built car is a winner in most respects.  It handled like a German engineered luxury vehicle, but the responsiveness of that 3.0 L Twin Turbo 400+ hp engine is phenomenal.  It roared off the traffic light and attained 50 mph in what seemed like a nano-second.

On the highway, this car performed flawlessly.  The only noticeable negative was the stiffness of the ride in the normal or comfort setting.  When I put it into SPORT, it got even stiffer.  My back started to bother me a little - but if it’s handling and responsiveness you are looking for, this car has it all.  It drove more like a sports car than a 4400 pound luxury car.

The finish and fit of the interior and exterior body was outstanding.  The plush interior and magnificent displays made my mouth water.  This is one heck of a car.

At $91,000+ MSRP, the pricing is right up there with the BMW 740i.  The one major aspect of building this car is that there were almost no options!  The car is built with every conceivable safety feature and luxury feature.  This is a car I would definitely put on the top of my list when I am in the market for a new car.  But I am not currently looking for one.

Cadillac has done what was needed in a luxury car - a German engineering feel to it with muscle!  I like it. 

stickguy

that car I bet won't come close to matching the BMW MPG. and at that sticker, I bet the initial depreciation will suck the life right out of your soul.

but sounds like a heck of a nice car,that probably sells in tiny numbers.