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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,494
    Power bills can be variable in this area. I think it is cheaper in the metro area than in some outlying regions. My mom lives no more than 2-3 hours outside the rat race, around here that means many go through a local "public utility district", these can be managed with inconsistent levels of competency. Hers has a ~$40/month fee before any power is even used. That combined with her old ~1500 sq ft house with an inefficient heating system and her desire for warmth means winter bills in the $150-200 region. I like to tease her that sometimes I can have two months worth of bills for one of her service fees.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    edited November 2018
    OK......I’m torqued!

    Been bragging on my LG appliances. Woke up this a.m. Head downstairs to the kitchen to be greeted by a flood on the floor coming from the fridge. All the lights on the front panel are on, meaning no faults were showmg. Temp readings on the front panel read the freezer at -1º. Fridge section at +37º. Open both....nothing even close to those temps inside. All freezer food thawed and warm. Food in fridge section is all warm.

    So, all this happened overnight, and given the fridge or the freezer were opened, even with a black out, the unit had to have heated up to defrost everything that quickly.

    It’s still under warranty through January, ‘19. Bought at Best Buy, so I go to the store I bought it from. Going to paraphrase....

    “Hey...have bought a lot of appliances and TVs from you guys. I’ve gotta fridge I bought from you that’s under warranty, and has ruined about $800 worth of food. Can you schedule a service guy to come out?”

    In brief....”NO”!
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    Back up a couple of months, the fridge was making some groaning sounds and I called BB for service. They sent a guy out who said everything checked out fine. So, they can service, if they choose to.

    Today I was reminded that unless I paid for Geek Squad warranty (which is in addition to LG’s), they won’t give you service. As I told the BB rep...”I see, if you want GOOD service from BB, it costs extra. Otherwise, you get terrible BB service.

    Next, called LG. They told me they didn’t have an authorized LG service rep in my area. Not sure what that means, but LG rep asked some questions and could not diagnose it over the phone.

    I asked where that leaves me? They were supposed to call me back by noon. It’s 5 and no call. I called them, again. They aren’t in the office until tomorrow according to their greeting.

    What a load!!!!!!!!
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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,082
    Oh boy. What a nightmare.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Ok we were recently discussing dash cams, well today I ordered a camera system for the bike. Two small cameras, one attached to the front and one to the back so it records what's in front and behind me. It records up to 5 hours of video and is hard wired to the bikes electrical system. It automatically turns on when the bike turns on and automatically shuts off after 2 minutes of non motion of the bike. It supposedly has a crash detection system where it automatically saves the two minutes prior to a crash detection.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    Different topic....good lemon law video.....

    https://youtu.be/5CMuolcneuM
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,254
    abacomike said:

    I woke up this morning and went through my usual regimen - put coffee filter into my 15 year old “Mr. Coffee” 5-cup coffeemaker and measure up 3 rounded tablespoons of ground coffee; go to fridge and fill coffeemaker pitcher with cold water from dispenser; pour water into coffeemaker and place pitcher on hot plate and close top!  So far so good.

    After about 5 minutes it became evident that my 15 year old coffeemaker had “big the dust”!  Not a peep or a sound from my trusty old $15.99 Mr. Coffee coffeemaker.  What to do?  I can’t sit on the pot doing my crossword puzzle without a large - no extra large - mug of coffee.

    So I take my pills and insulin and after brushing my teeth and washing my face, I get dressed and head out fo the nearest Walmart where I originally bought the deceased Mr. Coffee coffeemaker.  I go down to the small appliance aisle and discover another 5-cup Mr. Coffee coffeemaker - but this one had a clock and the ability to set a time when you want coffee brewed - in other words an upgrade.  Price was $16.00 + tax.  So after 15 years, you can get an even better coffeemaker for the same price paid in 2003.  Bet you can’t do that with very many appliances except for some HD TV’s now, if you are lucky.

    Made the first pot of coffee and it was terrific.  I’m livin’!  Thank you Mr. Coffee!  ;)

    Now to the bathroom to do the Sunday Crossword and have my extra large mug of coffee while letting nature take its course! 

    Don’t expect to get 15 years out of your new Mr. Coffee. They last me about a year if I’m lucky. Inexpensive usually means cheap.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,254
    edited November 2018
    bwia said:

    Longing for your Pontiac Aztek? well its back dressed in a Mitshubishi Eclipse Cross oufit. As they say the more things change the more they remain the same.



    Driver100 posted that observation several days ago.

    I’m thinking of buying up every Astek I can find and storing them away in a wearhouse until they become trendy at some future date. Just look up how much an old VW mini bus goes for these days. When new they were roundly laughed at.

    Those aren’t the only ones with split windows though.

    https://oppositelock.kinja.com/horizontally-split-rear-windows-on-non-hybrids-photo-h-1794783604



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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    I woke up this morning and went through my usual regimen - put coffee filter into my 15 year old “Mr. Coffee” 5-cup coffeemaker and measure up 3 rounded tablespoons of ground coffee; go to fridge and fill coffeemaker pitcher with cold water from dispenser; pour water into coffeemaker and place pitcher on hot plate and close top!  So far so good.

    After about 5 minutes it became evident that my 15 year old coffeemaker had “big the dust”!  Not a peep or a sound from my trusty old $15.99 Mr. Coffee coffeemaker.  What to do?  I can’t sit on the pot doing my crossword puzzle without a large - no extra large - mug of coffee.

    So I take my pills and insulin and after brushing my teeth and washing my face, I get dressed and head out fo the nearest Walmart where I originally bought the deceased Mr. Coffee coffeemaker.  I go down to the small appliance aisle and discover another 5-cup Mr. Coffee coffeemaker - but this one had a clock and the ability to set a time when you want coffee brewed - in other words an upgrade.  Price was $16.00 + tax.  So after 15 years, you can get an even better coffeemaker for the same price paid in 2003.  Bet you can’t do that with very many appliances except for some HD TV’s now, if you are lucky.

    Made the first pot of coffee and it was terrific.  I’m livin’!  Thank you Mr. Coffee!  ;)

    Now to the bathroom to do the Sunday Crossword and have my extra large mug of coffee while letting nature take its course! 
    Don’t expect to get 15 years out of your new Mr. Coffee. They last me about a year if I’m lucky. Inexpensive usually means cheap.
    I’ll keep you up to date if I have to replace it.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,254
    tjc78 said:

    I can't fathom these low electric bills! Mine is never lower than $150.00 and that's with everything gas except my downstairs dryer which is seldom used. Summertime with AC on 73 or cooler high 200s for June-Sept.

    I'm sure the ancient fridge downstairs doesn't help, but we try to conserve and all our bulbs are either LED or CFL.

    All depends on the energy source. For all it’s negatives, nuclear power is pretty cheap, at least on the front end. I think hydro is cheap too.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    tjc78 said:

    I can't fathom these low electric bills! Mine is never lower than $150.00 and that's with everything gas except my downstairs dryer which is seldom used. Summertime with AC on 73 or cooler high 200s for June-Sept.

    I'm sure the ancient fridge downstairs doesn't help, but we try to conserve and all our bulbs are either LED or CFL.

    All depends on the energy source. For all it’s negatives, nuclear power is pretty cheap, at least on the front end. I think hydro is cheap too.
    Isn't "Hydro" Canadian eh?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594



    I asked where that leaves me? They were supposed to call me back by noon. It’s 5 and no call. I called them, again. They aren’t in the office until tomorrow according to their greeting.

    What a load!!!!!!!!

    GG, that is terrible. I see LG and Samsung appliances and they look beautiful, seem to have all the right features, well priced, but I have heard horror stories. Many of the horror stories evolve around no service network, or slow to get parts. Most of the so called American brands are made in Japan or Korea so I don't really trust the Whirlpools, G.E.s, or Maytags that much either. I am not happy to hear that Best Buy won't help you out either.
    I hope nothing breaks down until I find out what a safe appliance to buy would be.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Ok we were recently discussing dash cams, well today I ordered a camera system for the bike. Two small cameras, one attached to the front and one to the back so it records what's in front and behind me. It records up to 5 hours of video and is hard wired to the bikes electrical system. It automatically turns on when the bike turns on and automatically shuts off after 2 minutes of non motion of the bike. It supposedly has a crash detection system where it automatically saves the two minutes prior to a crash detection.

    I can see a dash cam in a car, so that if you survive the accident you could show the other driver was at fault.
    A dash cam on a bike, in case of an accident, is only going to show us how you got killed.
    There ain't no protection on a bike! :@

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Different topic....good lemon law video.....

    https://youtu.be/5CMuolcneuM

    Thanks GG....I really enjoyed the video. The lawyer was excellent, didn't seem to think that buying a buy back car was a good idea, even if deeply discounted.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,467
    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:
    Ok we were recently discussing dash cams, well today I ordered a camera system for the bike. Two small cameras, one attached to the front and one to the back so it records what's in front and behind me. It records up to 5 hours of video and is hard wired to the bikes electrical system. It automatically turns on when the bike turns on and automatically shuts off after 2 minutes of non motion of the bike. It supposedly has a crash detection system where it automatically saves the two minutes prior to a crash detection.
    I can see a dash cam in a car, so that if you survive the accident you could show the other driver was at fault. A dash cam on a bike, in case of an accident, is only going to show us how you got killed. There ain't no protection on a bike! :@
    Not every accident on a bike results in a fatality, most don't. You tube is full of motorcycle accidents where the biker walked away. And there is protection on a bike if you want it. There are crash helmets, armored gloves, jackets and pants with armored plates. There are even some bikes with airbags.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,254
    driver100 said:

    tjc78 said:

    I can't fathom these low electric bills! Mine is never lower than $150.00 and that's with everything gas except my downstairs dryer which is seldom used. Summertime with AC on 73 or cooler high 200s for June-Sept.

    I'm sure the ancient fridge downstairs doesn't help, but we try to conserve and all our bulbs are either LED or CFL.

    All depends on the energy source. For all it’s negatives, nuclear power is pretty cheap, at least on the front end. I think hydro is cheap too.
    Isn't "Hydro" Canadian eh?
    We were slated to get a lot of really cheap power here in NY from Hydro Quebec in the early 90s but political pressure canceled the deal, cost a lot of jobs in Canada. My area went from one of the lowest energy costs to among the highest.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,341
    The reason Hydro Quebec has cheap power is due to a foolish sweetheart deal the Province of Newfoundland signed with Quebec in the ‘60s that sells hydro power to Quebec at rates that are now ridiculously low.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • DrivingfoolDrivingfool Member Posts: 227
    My kids new HE Whirlpool did a load in about 45 minutes the other day as I recall. My older Whirlpool with an agitator takes about 37 minutes to do a load. Have noticed that since I got the dryer vent cleaned out in mid October, the clothes and towels only take one load to dry so it was $ well spent. Now that we're back to be empty nesters again, our washer/dryer use should go down to maybe 4 loads/week with two of them being for towels/sheets depending also on how often the cleaning folks come in. Much less dirt/mess with just the two of us, so every month or so should be fine. When I left after the moving van took off Wednesday, noticed that the majority of the front living room was almost empty again. It had been a storage unit since the end of May for my oldest when her fiance broke off the engagement. And Karma came back to haunt him it seems but hey, that's another story. Since we didn't want her to waste $ on a storage facility, we had her & her friends bring it into our living room/dining room and make it fit which they did.
    So, I'll finally see how much extra room we've gained Wednesday afternoon when we drive back down to South Florida.

    The Sandman/Driving Fool :)B)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481


    driver100 said:

    Ok we were recently discussing dash cams, well today I ordered a camera system for the bike. Two small cameras, one attached to the front and one to the back so it records what's in front and behind me. It records up to 5 hours of video and is hard wired to the bikes electrical system. It automatically turns on when the bike turns on and automatically shuts off after 2 minutes of non motion of the bike. It supposedly has a crash detection system where it automatically saves the two minutes prior to a crash detection.

    I can see a dash cam in a car, so that if you survive the accident you could show the other driver was at fault.
    A dash cam on a bike, in case of an accident, is only going to show us how you got killed.
    There ain't no protection on a bike! :@

    Not every accident on a bike results in a fatality, most don't. You tube is full of motorcycle accidents where the biker walked away. And there is protection on a bike if you want it. There are crash helmets, armored gloves, jackets and pants with armored plates. There are even some bikes with airbags.

    That's true. My nephew recently got hit by a truck while on his Harley (I know, I know, where did I go wrong with this lad?) and the only thing that happened to him was lacerations to his left arm, 3 cracked ribs, his leathers totally destroyed, helmet cracked and $9,000 damage to his bike. Hardly worth mentioning. B) I wouldn't say he "walked away" but he did walk, sorta.

    Seriously, you don't ever wanna get hit while on a motorcycle because, unlike in a car, you start taking flying lessons---but not landing lessons.

    It was the CLASSIC motorcycle accident---waiting at a left turn signal, hidden behind a big SUV also making the same left turn. SUV goes, bike follows, but car in opposite direction does not see the motorcycle behind the SUV and proceeds through the intersection---hits the brakes a bit too late, clips the rear wheel of the bike, and.....airborne!
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited November 2018


    driver100 said:

    Ok we were recently discussing dash cams, well today I ordered a camera system for the bike. Two small cameras, one attached to the front and one to the back so it records what's in front and behind me. It records up to 5 hours of video and is hard wired to the bikes electrical system. It automatically turns on when the bike turns on and automatically shuts off after 2 minutes of non motion of the bike. It supposedly has a crash detection system where it automatically saves the two minutes prior to a crash detection.

    I can see a dash cam in a car, so that if you survive the accident you could show the other driver was at fault.
    A dash cam on a bike, in case of an accident, is only going to show us how you got killed.
    There ain't no protection on a bike! :@

    Not every accident on a bike results in a fatality, most don't. You tube is full of motorcycle accidents where the biker walked away. And there is protection on a bike if you want it. There are crash helmets, armored gloves, jackets and pants with armored plates. There are even some bikes with airbags
    .

    You won't get me on one unless I can wear cast iron underwear.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I have to say the leathers my nephew wore really did help a lot.

    I used to call the road "the belt sander of life".
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,753
    driver100 said:
    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles. My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well. Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more. The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.
    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........ What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil? Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use? If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?
    Depends on the form of agreement with the solar company. Only if the system is purchased outright (which very few people do) is there no further fees/costs.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    I have to say the leathers my nephew wore really did help a lot.

    I used to call the road "the belt sander of life".
    Seriously, you don't ever wanna get hit while on a motorcycle because, unlike in a car, you start taking flying lessons---but not landing lessons

    lol's Those are the kind of accidents I read about and see. I know my chances of driving in Florida accident free are slim, but, at least I have some METAL around me which might afford a bit of protection!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited November 2018
    qbrozen said:


    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?

    Depends on the form of agreement with the solar company. Only if the system is purchased outright (which very few people do) is there no further fees/costs.


    Oh man, I thought the whole idea was to get off the grid and be your own man!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    The reason Hydro Quebec has cheap power is due to a foolish sweetheart deal the Province of Newfoundland signed with Quebec in the ‘60s that sells hydro power to Quebec at rates that are now ridiculously low.

    Prices in Ontario are the highest of any where....and we have Niagara Falls. It is because we had a government that spent money like drunken sailors (sorry I offended drunken sailors by putting you in the same category as these morons). We can actually buy power from Quebec, and we do buy some from them, for less than we can produce it.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited November 2018
    qbrozen said:


    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?

    Depends on the form of agreement with the solar company. Only if the system is purchased outright (which very few people do) is there no further fees/costs.

    Our Electric Utility Company here in South Florida is Florida Power and Light, a subsidiary of a huge utility holding company. A majority of the electric power we use is generated from a combination of Nuclear, Solar and Natural Gas. FPL is one of the first large Power Companies to have built hundreds of thousands of solar panels in the southern part of the peninsula and is now capable of supplying power sourcing, if necessary, to the entire city and county of Miami/Dade (in other words, can provide all the necessary power for over 2 million people and businesses).

    My electric bills vary, as I indicated in a previous post, from $35 a month to $55 a month, depending upon the time of the year. Those are very low rates for a 2.5 ton AC unit during the summer months when the AC is on 24 hours a day. My Condo is 1350 square feet, but remember, I live alone.

    Additionally, I don’t use the electric oven/range very much since everything I eat that is hot comes out of the microwave oven.

    In an average year, Florida receives heavy doses of sunlight - after all we a
    Re the sunshine state. - 96% of the time the sun is shining.

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  • DrivingfoolDrivingfool Member Posts: 227
    My daughter has a new s s GE side by side with ice and H2O in the door. We'll see how well it does going forward. Dishwasher not working, as we just found out, after she cooked me dinner. She'll call first thing in the a m as now, I'm getting annoyed.
    Our new a/c unit is excellent, it stays usually at 79 because my wife is freezing! The air does come out very cold and it's a very efficient unit. Last month bill was about $120 but our October was very hot. Can't wait to see what it is come March when the weather is a bit cooler.
    But, have decided that moving up here is the right thing to do, sooner than later. And that I'm ready to stop working much sooner than later. These last few days have shown me that it is indeed time as I'm tired, plain tired most of the time and really, am so ready to stop!

    The Sandman/Driving Fool :)B)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,753
    driver100 said:
    driver100 said:
    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles. My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well. Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more. The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.
    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........ What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil? Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use? If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?
    Depends on the form of agreement with the solar company. Only if the system is purchased outright (which very few people do) is there no further fees/costs.
    Oh man, I thought the whole idea was to get off the grid and be your own man!
    Very difficult to do with just solar. What would you do if you get a week of rain, for instance? Disconnecting from the grid is not practical. My panels produce about 80% of what I use. 

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,486
    go for it Sandy. From what you have said about your accident pain issues, I can't imagine doing a job like yours if I didn't have to. You have been through a lot, so finally taking care of yourself seems like the way to go. You are also lucky to have an area that you want to be in, where the housing is a lot more affordable than where you currently are. Sometimes in life, choices almost get made for you when the solution hits you over the head!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,486
    We have an LG fridge, but I bought it at a local store that is also the service operation. So if something happens, I call them and their people come out (doing the warranty work as long as it is under warranty, after that, on my dime). They did include a 10 year compressor warranty too from the store. Hopefully I don't need it.

    at this point, once they are out of warranty, I consider all these appliances disposable. I don't have the patience to deal with chasing after repair people, or the desire to pay 1/2 the price of a new one for repairs, that may or may not give many more years of service.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,374


    Not every accident on a bike results in a fatality, most don't. You tube is full of motorcycle accidents where the biker walked away. And there is protection on a bike if you want it. There are crash helmets, armored gloves, jackets and pants with armored plates. There are even some bikes with airbags.

    Factor out the riders with no license or training, impaired riders, riders who don't believe in ATGATT, and riders exceeding their limits- then you see it's not as dangerous as many surmise.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,467
    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?
    Not chick fil a; we don't have the net worth for that.
    Not sure what you mean with your second question.
    Yes, we produce most of our own electricity with the solar; but, we lease the system, not own it outright, hence the monthly charge.

    I have a handy dandy app on my phone that shows how much energy I'm producing every 15 minutes for a day

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Michaell said:

    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?
    Not chick fil a; we don't have the net worth for that.
    Not sure what you mean with your second question.
    Yes, we produce most of our own electricity with the solar; but, we lease the system, not own it outright, hence the monthly charge.

    I have a handy dandy app on my phone that shows how much energy I'm producing every 15 minutes for a day
    Chic Fil A only requires $10000 down if you are approved. Only difference is you don't own it in the end.
    You mentioned buying a franchise and needing appliances...not sure what kind of franchise.
    Sometimes if you buy appliances for commercial use the regular warranty or extended warranty won't be honored. For example our Keurig coffee maker I believe says the warranty is good only if used in the home.
    I get it now with solar....didn't realize you leased the system.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,341
    Blockbuster news: Carlos Ghosn out at Nissan, and arrested by Japanese authorities:

    http://www.autonews.com/article/20181119/COPY01/311199981/ghosn-will-be-arrested-in-japan-on-suspected-financial-law-breach

    TOKYO – Nissan Motor Co. is preparing to fire Chairman Carlos Ghosn for allegedly under-reporting his income and using corporate assets for personal use, a company spokesman said.

    CEO Hiroto Saikawa, 65, will recommend to the automaker’s board of directors that Ghosn be dismissed, Nissan spokesman Nicholas Maxfield said Monday in Japan.

    The company is also planning to fire fellow board member Greg Kelly, 62, who rose through the executive ranks as a director of human resources.

    Ghosn is believed by Nissan to have under-reported his income over multiple years and misused corporate assets. Kelly was “deeply involved” in the scheme, Maxfield said.

    While Nissan did not immediately comment on the magnitude of the alleged income under-reporting, the Jiji news agency said Ghosn under-reported nearly 10 billion yen ($88.7 million) in compensation as nearly 5 billion yen. The Kyodo news agency said it took place over five years, from 2011 to the present.

    Media reports said Japanese prosecutors arrested Ghosn for alleged violations of the country’s financial laws. Ghosn voluntarily went with Tokyo prosecutors, the Asahi newspaper reported.

    Fall from grace

    Ghosn, 64, one of Japan’s highest-paid executives, is joint chairman of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance and one of the industry’s most storied leaders.

    This marks a stunning fall from grace for the man who pioneered Nissan’s comeback and has been credited for leading one of the auto industry’s few successful automotive partnerships, the long-running tie-up between Nissan and France’s Renault.

    Ghosn expanded the alliance to include Mitsubishi Motors Corp. in 2016, by engineering Nissan’s purchase of a controlling stake in the smaller Japanese rival. Mitsubishi had no immediate comment on its plan of action following the news, a spokesman said.

    Nissan did not say who would replace Ghosn as chairman nor when the board of directors would decide to remove him.

    Nissan was expected to hold a news conference about the allegations later Monday at its global headquarters in Yokohama, just south of Tokyo.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,753
    Wow. That's crazy.

    wonder what they mean about underreporting. To whom? The government? I guess they don't have W2s over there? 

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    qbrozen said:

    Wow. That's crazy.

    wonder what they mean about underreporting. To whom? The government? I guess they don't have W2s over there? 

    I think they do (not same name, of course) and the issue was they had a big scheme of paying him without showing they were paying him. Besides defrauding the government , it is also a securities fraud, as top executives in a publicly traded company need to have compensation fully disclosed.

    What blows me away is it seems it's never enough, regardless how much it is. Making million, wants two. Making ten, wants twenty. Hundred, billion, and so on. Executives in public companies are probably the worst kind of greed. They usually risk very little (unlike say people who invest their own real capital), but they take jackpot and they want it as fast as possible,as typically the top job doesn't last too long. Classic heads I win, tales you lose.

    Ghosn is a strange case - he's been around for quite long time, so one could think he would really have enough by now. But I guess that word is just not in their vocabulary.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690
    edited November 2018
    @graphicguy
    Oh my. I know that feeling from our Whirlpool's losing the blower motor/circuit board.

    I suggest A-Z Appliances, which has done our servicing. They are Cincinnati, Dayton, Springfield area company. They may not be LG authorized, but it sounds like no one else for LG is in area!
    https://atoz1.com/

    So the fridge showed temp of 37 deg but was warm? Strange that temperatures would be wrong. I'd suspect a compressor out. But the erroneous temp reading might indicate a computer went bad and isn't controlling things and isn't updating the readings.

    Frankly, I'd trust my Whirlpool, Maytag, Kitchenaid brands because at least I have authorized service folks who will get next day appointments if possible for diagnosis.

    I know A-Z does other brands because the guys have commented about trouble getting parts.

    I don't know what your level of frustration is on this deal. But I told my wife if I'd know I was going to have trouble getting a slow order part, we would just have bought a replacement refrigerator instead of thinking ours would be fixed. \If they make an equivalent style to the design for the handles on the microwave, double over stove, wishwasher, we could have had it installed the next day. Costly, but DONE. Would have been easier than buying a Walmart dorm fridge and then having to readjust for long term wait for part. BUT Lowes Warranty got the part problem FIXED.

    Two years and more on the warranty from Lowes of the 5-year warranty.

    The problem today is so many various parts on Whirlpools and various products, that trucks done carry most often replaced parts so they can replace them THAT day on the first visit. It's always order in or what my service techs prefer is order at Dayton Appliance Parts (large regional company) and have it at the store the next morning for pickup--if DAP doesn't already have that part in stock.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,341
    Since the former HR guy was "deeply involved" it sounds like a scheme where he received other compensation (perhaps not in the form of cash) that was not shown on statements of earnings. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Apparently the police surprised him upon arrival back in Japan at the airport so he had no idea this was coming. Otherwise I suspect he might not have returned and instead took refuge elsewhere.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,135
    edited November 2018
    @ab348 .....read that about Ghosn. Pretty crazy. Wonder what Renault will do?

    Fridge woes......of course, this is the week of Thanksgiving. Already cancelled family plans, which really steams me. Can’t cook anything if I can’t refrigerate anything.

    OF course, they won’t cover any food loss.

    It’s like the blind leading the stupid.

    Best Buy acts like they’ve never heard of me even though I spent $4K with them last year and am what they call an “Elite Plus” customer.

    LG acts like Alfred E Neumann....”What, me worry”?

    IN brief, LG has no local service center or agents. They don’t know when they can get one, or even if they can get one to come to my home. Best Buy feels customer service is something they will not provide unless you pay them extra for their “GEEK SQUAD” extended warranty.

    Understand, this unit is still under full parts an labor warranty.


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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    If these figures are accurate Ghosn was grossly underpaid for an international automotive CEO.

    "According to NHK and the Kyodo News Service, Ghosn made nearly 10 billion yen ($89 million) over five years through March 2015, including salary and other income from the company, but reported as if he only made 5 billion yen ($44 million), or half of what he had received.

    Nissan’s annual securities report shows Ghosn received annual remuneration exceeding 1 billion yen ($8.9 million) until fiscal 2016, when shareholders voted against his pay package. His annual pay dropped to 735 million yen ($6.5 million) in 2017, down more than 30 percent."
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,341
    Nissan released a statement:

    Based on a whistleblower report, Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. (Nissan) has been conducting an internal investigation over the past several months regarding misconduct involving the company’s Representative Director and Chairman Carlos Ghosn and Representative Director Greg Kelly.

    The investigation showed that over many years both Ghosn and Kelly have been reporting compensation amounts in the Tokyo Stock Exchange securities report that were less than the actual amount, in order to reduce the disclosed amount of Carlos Ghosn’s compensation.

    Also, in regards to Ghosn, numerous other significant acts of misconduct have been uncovered, such as personal use of company assets, and Kelly’s deep involvement has also been confirmed.

    Nissan has been providing information to the Japanese Public Prosecutors Office and has been fully cooperating with their investigation. We will continue to do so.

    As the misconduct uncovered through our internal investigation constitutes clear violations of the duty of care as directors, Nissan’s Chief Executive Officer Hiroto Saikawa will propose to the Nissan Board of Directors to promptly remove Ghosn from his positions as Chairman and Representative Director. Saikawa will also propose the removal of Greg Kelly from his position as Representative Director.

    Nissan deeply apologizes for causing great concern to our shareholders and stakeholders. We will continue our work to identify our governance and compliance issues, and to take appropriate measures.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,690


    Understand, this unit is still under full parts an labor warranty.

    We rented from a company that can provide refrigerator delivered in hours.
    Put it in garage. They will place it in kitchen if you want instead of bad refrig.

    I had to pay month in advance. Nonrefundable. They had a 40$/week Maytag French door stainless
    on the floor 32 inch. Later they had a smaller freezer on top in white at $28/week.

    The one I used was Rent a Center.


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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191


    Best Buy acts like they’ve never heard of me even though I spent $4K with them last year and am what they call an “Elite Plus” customer.

    LG acts like Alfred E Neumann....”What, me worry”?

    IN brief, LG has no local service center or agents. They don’t know when they can get one, or even if they can get one to come to my home. Best Buy feels customer service is something they will not provide unless you pay them extra for their “GEEK SQUAD” extended warranty.

    Understand, this unit is still under full parts an labor warranty.

    So it's my dishwasher story, but worse, because it's a fridge. I had Costco on my side making them finally pay the money back, but I'm sure you won't get that from BB, obviously. Ironic thing is, I still went with Bosch as a replacement, which is not available at Costco - I bought it through a local chain, called Famous Tate, part of Brand Source distribution. These are folks I bought my original appliances, nice people in general and more supportive in terms of post-sale treatment than general big-box retailers. Of course there are limits of their support, I'm sure. I didn't buy the ext. warranty, as my credit card picks up 2 extra years.

    As I mentioned, the issue with LG was not that it broke - this happens to any brand, although the statistics say it happens to LG more often than others. It's the horrendous lack of support in case you need them. No parts, in your case even no service. It's sad, their stuff is really pretty and clever, but with this kind of customer treatment, they lost me for next 10 years.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,467
    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    driver100 said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - ugh - so sorry to hear about your refrigerator troubles.

    My wife and I are in the process of opening up a franchise, and we'll need to create two complete kitchens (2 fridges, 2 electric ranges and 1 dishwasher) for the space. I know we'll be price sensitive, but I also think that it will be a good investment to pick up a comprehensive service plan, as well.

    Regarding energy costs, I've been averaging about $125/mo, combined, for our electricity and natural gas. Summer has been more expensive, due to the AC running, but we'll see what the bills look like in the dead of winter when we run the natural gas furnace more.

    The house is equipped with solar, so I have to pay the service company a fee every month, as well. Still, cheaper than our last house.

    Michaell....excuse my ignorance but a few questions please........
    What kind of franchise.....Chic A Fil?
    Will comprehensive service plan cover commercial use?
    If you have solar don't you produce your own electricity? What is the service charge for?
    Not chick fil a; we don't have the net worth for that.
    Not sure what you mean with your second question.
    Yes, we produce most of our own electricity with the solar; but, we lease the system, not own it outright, hence the monthly charge.

    I have a handy dandy app on my phone that shows how much energy I'm producing every 15 minutes for a day
    Chic Fil A only requires $10000 down if you are approved. Only difference is you don't own it in the end.
    You mentioned buying a franchise and needing appliances...not sure what kind of franchise.
    Sometimes if you buy appliances for commercial use the regular warranty or extended warranty won't be honored. For example our Keurig coffee maker I believe says the warranty is good only if used in the home.
    I get it now with solar....didn't realize you leased the system.
    We are looking to open a kids cooking studio.

    I'll have to look into the warranty issue; thanks for bringing it up.

    Wife's family has been involved in the restaurant business for years, and she wants nothing to do with it. The cooking studio is more like child care with some simple cooking attached to it. Birthday parties, camps in the summer, things like that.

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    Kid’s cooking studio sounds like a liability nightmare
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,467
    carnaught said:

    Kid’s cooking studio sounds like a liability nightmare

    Yes, we will be carrying the appropriate types of insurance.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,849
    @Michaell - that's really great! I have to say, Sam loves spending time in the kitchen with us watching us and helping us cook. I could see an activity like that being a big hit!
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,467

    @Michaell - that's really great! I have to say, Sam loves spending time in the kitchen with us watching us and helping us cook. I could see an activity like that being a big hit!

    Thanks! It's amazing all the stuff we've had to learn these last few months.

    And, we still haven't signed a lease on the location. Hoping that will happen soon, then we can build out and hopefully open in March (before spring break).

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