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PF_Flyer

Fernando Alonso on the LeMans winning team. Funniest thing at Indy this year. They REALLY expected him to get the McLaren into the field. They had his frequency programmed in the race radios, they had all sorts of hats, shirts, etc. ready to sell, and at 7AM, all of it was discounted 40-50%

tjc78

stickguy said:

A Colorado if you need a “real” truck, and a ridge line if you need an SUV with an open bed and moderate towing capability.

If you want to step up to a barge, the usual suspects.

I think the ranger looks nice but unfavorable reports on ride and handling.

Yes, seems like the Ranger really isn't loved much.

For what most people (homeowners) need a pickup truck for the Ridgeline is pretty solid.

stickguy

Guy in my ‘hood just replaced a 4 door ram work truck model (cheap looking trim) eco diesel with a new ridgeline. Never saw it do actual work, so probably a lot more Practical!

thebean

What I would like to see, and this is probably going to be unpopular, is a sedan raised up so I don’t have to stoop down to get into it. I like to have a lockable trunk, so I really don’t need a SUV. Anyone else want this as a more comfortable option as we get older? I guess most people will say just give me a SUV for the versatility.

stickguy

Yes. That’s s something I dislike about the new accord, and some other cars (my TLX to an extent also). Too low slung. The old Subaru Outback sedan was good, but not sure there is anything like that today.

sda

You see, the AMC Eagle sedan was ahead of its time! The VW Alltrak, based off the Golf, would probably fit the bill. Its more of a sedan wagon than a CUV/SUV.

tjc78

Sure was:



Bonus points for the movie (@fintail... too easy for you!)

28firefighter

tjc78 said:

Sure was:



Bonus points for the movie (@fintail... too easy for you!)

Clue: Photo taken Hill Valley, CA - 1985.

suydam

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

A Colorado if you need a “real” truck, and a ridge line if you need an SUV with an open bed and moderate towing capability.

If you want to step up to a barge, the usual suspects.

I think the ranger looks nice but unfavorable reports on ride and handling.

Yes, seems like the Ranger really isn't loved much.

For what most people (homeowners) need a pickup truck for the Ridgeline is pretty solid.

A friend just recently replaced a Silverado with a Ridgeline.

fintail

I look at those as predecessors of modern Subarus.

Jennifer!

28firefighter said:

tjc78 said:

Sure was:



Bonus points for the movie (@fintail... too easy for you!)

Clue: Photo taken Hill Valley, CA - 1985.

houdini2

Sometimes they will purposely under price a listing to generate a lot of interest and start a bidding war.

kyfdx

It happens all the time on Property Brothers.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

A Colorado if you need a “real” truck, and a ridge line if you need an SUV with an open bed and moderate towing capability.

If you want to step up to a barge, the usual suspects.

I think the ranger looks nice but unfavorable reports on ride and handling.

Yeah that's what I was thinking a Colorado. Edmund's seems to like them in their reviews.

oldfarmer50

“ok trying to get back on topic. Any suggestions for light to medium duty pick up trucks?”

If you want a real basic small truck try a Nissan Frontier. Start at about $20k for a stripper up to low 30s for an extra cab with options. Kind of outdated though. The Colorado is nice but I think you’re looking at a higher price.

driver100

thebean said:

What I would like to see, and this is probably going to be unpopular, is a sedan raised up so I don’t have to stoop down to get into it. I like to have a lockable trunk, so I really don’t need a SUV. Anyone else want this as a more comfortable option as we get older? I guess most people will say just give me a SUV for the versatility.

BMW X4 model;

Mercedes GLC AMG

or a 2010 to 2019 Honda Crosstour:


I know what you mean though Thebean, when I had my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee I thought this would make a great car........just make a car roof and put a trunk on it. You have to picture the roof ending after rear side window and a trunk;

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

tjc78 said:

Sure was:



Bonus points for the movie (@fintail... too easy for you!)

Clue: Photo taken Hill Valley, CA - 1985.

Well, I know Hill Valley 1985 is the setting of Back to the Future, but can’t claim to remember that specific car in it.

driver100

My Jeep idea would look something like this:
Oh oh, I can't get a picture from my picture file....too bad, maybe another day.

explorerx4

Early reviews of the Ranger were not that great, but does well in peer comparison tests.
The drivetrain is much better than the competition.
Bargain is the Frontier, although you might as well buy a used one, hasn't changed in a decade and a half.

tjc78

qbrozen said:

28firefighter said:

tjc78 said:

Sure was:



Bonus points for the movie (@fintail... too easy for you!)

Clue: Photo taken Hill Valley, CA - 1985.

Well, I know Hill Valley 1985 is the setting of Back to the Future, but can’t claim to remember that specific car in it.

Scene early on when Jennifer’s father picks her up after the lady waves the “Save the Clock Tower” flyer in their face.

Tons of great car spotting in this scene


https://youtu.be/jv0vo40VIWY

oldfarmer50

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• thebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,011
• 11:19AM
• What I would like to see, and this is probably going to be unpopular, is a sedan raised up so I don’t have to stoop down to get into it. I like to have a lockable trunk, so I really don’t need a SUV. Anyone else want this as a more comfortable option as we get older? I guess most people will say just give me a SUV for the versatility.”

I experience the same problem in my more sporty cars. You have to fall into them. That’s one reason I got this:

explorerx4

My sister is back from Germany, attempting to resolve the farm property we inherited over there.
The 'state' government is going to buy a portion of it to restore a water flow area to close to how it ran naturally.
At some point, it was decided to straighten in out from it's original 'meandering' flow, which resulted in a lot of erosion.
The local officials were somewhat trepidatious meeting my sister 'an american', guess they were expecting Leona Helmsley.
Once they realized her German was pretty good and she understood what they are trying to do(taught ecology subject courses at a PSU annex campus for about a decade), they relaxed and were happy we are on board with what they want to do.
I will get some financial benefit from it, but the best part for me is they are getting to design their own future after having no choice but to do what they were told to do for many decades.

oldfarmer50

Sent my son’s Sable down the road tonight. The final straw came when he went out to work and the AC compressor failed. Made no sense to put any more money into it so I threw a quick ad on CL and within a few hours a guy came and bought. Don’t know if he’ll fix it or turn right around and resell it but not my problem any more. He’ll be Ubering in the PT now. It’s only got 46k on it so I’m hoping he’ll get a few years out of it.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

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• thebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,011
• 11:19AM
• What I would like to see, and this is probably going to be unpopular, is a sedan raised up so I don’t have to stoop down to get into it. I like to have a lockable trunk, so I really don’t need a SUV. Anyone else want this as a more comfortable option as we get older? I guess most people will say just give me a SUV for the versatility.”

I experience the same problem in my more sporty cars. You have to fall into them. That’s one reason I got this:

Been there.....done that with my 2008 328 Cabriolet. To get in you swing your butt so it is over the seat and then you drop into the seat. To get out you grab a bit of the door frame and pull yourself out of the seat.

The Kia is a tall car and they were supposed to make the Corolla a bit taller for senior citizens, also Ford made the Focus taller a few years ago.

explorerx4

Ford did make the Focus a bit taller, it's called an Escape.

fintail

The trilogy has to be one of the best sequel/series ever. In my top 10 forever.

Not just the nice late run Eagle, Marty's eventual Toyota pickup, the red 2 door Cherokee, Datsun B210, etc are all cool. Everyday cars on the street in 1985 that are rare today.

The AMC is also seen in BTTF 3 in front of Jennifer's house:



And in BTTF 2 1985A (alternate timeline, with the bleak Biff-ruled future), a crashed Hornet does a stand-in:

tjc78 said:

Tons of great car spotting in this scene

28firefighter

I’ve loved the trilogy since I was a kid. Own the box set.

tjc78

Guys I am right there with you, such a well done series. I have the box set and even the soundtrack (on vinyl) from when I was a kid.

PF_Flyer

Saw this in the gym parking lot this morning. I GET it, but you really put the logo centered above the badge instead of the middle of the door?

driver100

PF_Flyer said:

Saw this in the gym parking lot this morning. I GET it, but you really put the logo centered above the badge instead of the middle of the door?

Is that the new Jeep Jurassic Park model?

Agree, the badge is in a goofy place.

stickguy

Like the color but the sign has to go.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

My sister is back from Germany, attempting to resolve the farm property we inherited over there.
The 'state' government is going to buy a portion of it to restore a water flow area to close to how it ran naturally.
At some point, it was decided to straighten in out from it's original 'meandering' flow, which resulted in a lot of erosion.
The local officials were somewhat trepidatious meeting my sister 'an american', guess they were expecting Leona Helmsley.
Once they realized her German was pretty good and she understood what they are trying to do(taught ecology subject courses at a PSU annex campus for about a decade), they relaxed and were happy we are on board with what they want to do.
I will get some financial benefit from it, but the best part for me is they are getting to design their own future after having no choice but to do what they were told to do for many decades.

So what car are you going to buy with your share?

snakeweasel

PF_Flyer said:

Saw this in the gym parking lot this morning. I GET it, but you really put the logo centered above the badge instead of the middle of the door?

I would also say use the right vehicle if your going to do that, but that's just me.

PF_Flyer

Yea, it's just... off

And the Spurs badge on the gas door doesn't add much either

fintail

Funny, I also have the soundtrack LP and the box set like you and @28firefighter .

Speaking of BTTF and cars,One of the ultimate pieces of memorabilia from the trilogy went to auction not long ago - well-bought IMO, would love to have it.

I was never into Jurassic Park, but this is the vehicle I think of with that one:



Or this:



Many fan tribute vehicles have been built of both.

tjc78 said:

Guys I am right there with you, such a well done series. I have the box set and even the soundtrack (on vinyl) from when I was a kid.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

PF_Flyer said:

Saw this in the gym parking lot this morning. I GET it, but you really put the logo centered above the badge instead of the middle of the door?

I would also say use the right vehicle if your going to do that, but that's just me.

We’ve seen some weird theme cars at various dealers and if you ask them what was someone thinking they usually say that those are the first to sell. Evidently there are many fan bois out there for every movie.

imidazol97

As a salesman on here said, "there's a butt for every seat."

thebean

driver100 said:

thebean said:

What I would like to see, and this is probably going to be unpopular, is a sedan raised up so I don’t have to stoop down to get into it. I like to have a lockable trunk, so I really don’t need a SUV. Anyone else want this as a more comfortable option as we get older? I guess most people will say just give me a SUV for the versatility.

BMW X4 model;

Mercedes GLC AMG

or a 2010 to 2019 Honda Crosstour:


I know what you mean though Thebean, when I had my 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee I thought this would make a great car........just make a car roof and put a trunk on it. You have to picture the roof ending after rear side window and a trunk;

@driver100, isn’t that MB and BMW both hatchbacks? Same with the Crosstour? I like trunks, plus I’m just not a luxury German car type of guy, as far as the first two go. But, thanks for the suggestions.

Michaell

Are you looking for something like this?

stickguy

That’s the outback sedan I mentioned earlier. Volvo did a similar S60CC recently too.

Michaell

stickguy said:

That’s the outback sedan I mentioned earlier. Volvo did a similar S60CC recently too.

Yep, the SUS - "Sport Utility Sedan"

ruking1

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

That’s the outback sedan I mentioned earlier. Volvo did a similar S60CC recently too.

Yep, the SUS - "Sport Utility Sedan"

The question is how well will/does it sell?

Being on the “I Hate SUVs, Why Don’t You?” Edmunds.com board for some years, IF there were any significant market shares, it would have manifested years ago. Folks (like me) that were saying the SUV platforms were very logical & market shares would grow substantially in #’s & %’s were almost totally trashed & vilified. History has been, is, remains obviously on the SUV/CUV side. There is almost no brand that does not have SUV/CUV products.

When I bought a 1987 Toyota Landcruiser, a scant 32 years ago, SUV’s were app 1% of the PVF. I have read that app 2000 of the 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser were imported into the country. Fast forward to 2019, the sedan market is EVER shrinking.

Right now, no brand has pioneered that “SUS” niche.

stickguy

They stopped making that car a while back. It didn’t sell.

Michaell

stickguy said:

They stopped making that car a while back. It didn’t sell.

I had a co-worker who owned one, in that exact color from the picture. I saw quite a few of them here in Colorado.

murphydog

stickguy said:

They stopped making that car a while back. It didn’t sell.

stickguy said:

They stopped making that car a while back. It didn’t sell.

Very true - Dealers were reporting that potential older customers liked everything about the Outback, except it was a wagon instead of a sedan.

IMHO the Outback Wagon looks good, the sedan...not so much...

kyfdx

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

They stopped making that car a while back. It didn’t sell.

I had a co-worker who owned one, in that exact color from the picture. I saw quite a few of them here in Colorado.

Saw one on Saturday, pulling out of the cemetery.

thebean

@Michaell, that’s a good representation of something I would like. Too bad they are no longer made.

Michaell

thebean said:

@Michaell, that’s a good representation of something I would like. Too bad they are no longer made.

As @stickguy noted, Volvo offered a similar concept with the S60. Not sure if it's still available, but you might be able to pick up one that is a year or two old for a reasonable price.

stickguy

Has to be used. Didn’t carry it over to the new design S60 I don’t think.

ruking1

It would seem that the product that makes the most amount of sense, in lieu of the so called “SUS” is really the tried and true minivan.👀 It’s not an SUV/CUV. It’s easy to get in and out of, holds 6, 7 to 8 passengers.

Indeed, because the EV engine is perceived as less pollutive than the ICE, (it’s actually MORE pollutive) the trend to bigger vehicles with higher passenger capacities will continue. I’m guessing that EV power packs will need to be interchangeable.

ruking1

https://www3.forbes.com/business/vehicles-with-the-best-resale-values/30/

The markets say...