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Sandman6472

We have a lot of Hyundai customers renting from the office I was at all summer. Most days, I'd make over a dozen trips back and forth there. A lot of the folks were getting new engines due to this recall and most were the 2011 Sonatas. Obviously, Hyundai is doing the right thing here and fixing them correctly. Much business for Hertz also!

Sandman6472

OF, applied for a Enterprise driving gig right up the street here in Coconut Creek where Enterprise has a big office building. Not sure if it's their southern district office. The ad said something about washing vehicles but that sounds crazy. Have never done that at Hertz yet...and do not plan to. Only reason I'm applying in the first place as it would cut out my longish commute even though the hourly wage is a bit less. Doubt anything will come of it as I didn't take the job a couple of years ago as it didn't help my commuting issues one bit, in fact, made it worse. So I just declined the position, politely though. This new gig would be within 5 or so miles of the casa. No tolls involved either!!
So we'll see where this leads. Nice to have options.

venture

imidazol97 said:

Cute.

Also beautiful is when a mother is leading her following group of goslings across a road and keeps glaring toward the car that's waiting for her trail of little ones to find their way behind her. This happens on a campus road at Wright State U that we use to get to a favorite restaurant.

This is the road that goes past my house. The same thing happens, except they are ducks, at about the same spot in the spring. There are Duck Crossing signs beside the road in both directions.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

Cute.

Also beautiful is when a mother is leading her following group of goslings across a road and keeps glaring toward the car that's waiting for her trail of little ones to find their way behind her. This happens on a campus road at Wright State U that we use to get to a favorite restaurant.

Might be cute, but what's really annoying around here are those darn geese that just stand around in the road doing nothing. You have to drive slowly into them to get them to move.

ab348

tjc78 said:

ab348 said:

A friend bought what must have been one of the last tube Trinitrons just before they went to flat screens - I think it was either a 28” or maybe even bigger if they made something that large, a floor model to boot. That thing weighed a ton. When he finally moved I think he left it behind.

Sony actually made a 40” tube TV. It was a total beast and got great reviews at the time.

I looked it up and what my friend had was the 32" model from what I can tell. Moving it was like moving a safe or a piano.

tjc78

Yeah, my stepdad had the 36" version. Not fun

I have a 65" Sony XBR LCD projection in my basement that has a glass front. I hope I never have to move that thing...ever

fintail

My grandma had good foresight. Maybe around 2010-11 or so she was itching to get a flat panel TV and ditch her large (at least 32", maybe 35-36") CRT, as she said "you won't be able to give these away". At the time, donation companies still took them. Well-played. Thing probably weighed as much as a small car.

jwm40517

Hey sb55, here is a completely different idea. Take Rt 33, 4 lanes after Bellefontaine to Columbus and US 23 all the way from Columbus to Ashville. 4 lanes all the way.

bwia

A $60,000 Ford Escape? Not quite. But rather this is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair, a baby Aviator, not quite but close. It looks good inside and out and a strong competitor to the GLC, RDX, BMW X3 and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6Eur1RUzE

houdini2

jmonroe1 said:

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imidazol97 said:

Had trouble with Samsung TV year old. The box for the channels stayed on screen. Did factory reset. No joy. Still showed channel box.

Chatted with Samsung support. At first he told me it ws the setup box for the cable connection. But I'm not on cable.

Then he said they don't support the in home antenna. I explained this is rabbit ear antenna. That doesn't push any kind of setting into the TV.

Then he seemed to understand what I was saying... English?

He told me to do a power reset. Just pull plug while set is turned on. Leave off for 60 seconds. Plug back in.
Never saw that mentioned in my hours worth of reseraching this problem on internet.

Voila. The channel info box now disappears after after a few seconds.

Tech guy said pulling the plug resets cache and some other things...

I don't love my Samsung TV, but the tech support was great.

I just got a 32 inch Samsung HD 1080 for the master bedroom. Great picture. Now if I can just get someone to take my 28" Sony Trinitron out of my condo, I would be so grateful. It's an antique but it still works perfectly. It is huge compared to these new flat screen TV's. Since I only watch the new TV when I go back to the computer in the master bedroom, it won't get much use.

Good luck. No one wants those big heavy things. Is there electronic recycling near you?

No way I could lift that Trinitron. Must weigh close to 70 lbs

Sorry @Mike, I wouldn't touch that beast even if you sent me airfare.

jmonroe

Well Mike, I won't turn you down out of hand like jmonroe did. Just send me the round trip airfare sometime in Jan. 2020, and I will come down and assess the situation personally for a week or two before I turn you down.

tjc78

bwia said:

A $60,000 Ford Escape? Not quite. But rather this is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair, a baby Aviator, not quite but close. It looks good inside and out and a strong competitor to the GLC, RDX, BMW X3 and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6Eur1RUzE

I’m sure it will be very nice ... but when the heck will the fascination with SUVs end ?

Are sedans dead forever?

houdini2

bwia said:

A $60,000 Ford Escape? Not quite. But rather this is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair, a baby Aviator, not quite but close. It looks good inside and out and a strong competitor to the GLC, RDX, BMW X3 and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6Eur1RUzE

I don't like the price, but I do like the simple clean lines on the front end and the grill. Do you hear me Lexus?

pensfan83

tjc78 said:

bwia said:

A $60,000 Ford Escape? Not quite. But rather this is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair, a baby Aviator, not quite but close. It looks good inside and out and a strong competitor to the GLC, RDX, BMW X3 and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6Eur1RUzE

I’m sure it will be very nice ... but when the heck will the fascination with SUVs end ?

Are sedans dead forever?

I honestly don't know how the market isn't oversaturated already.

stickguy

It probably is. I don’t mind, and it makes sense to me. A CUV is a lot more practical for many people, especially if only have 1 car. Back in the old days, wagons were the popular family car, and these are just tall station wagons.

There is nothing magical about a 3 box sedan either. And modern CUVs pretty much drive like cars, just with a better view of the road, and easier access. Sedan sales likely aren’t helped by ever lowering rooflines and hip points. My wife hated the Elantra because she found it uncomfortably low.

driver100

houdini2 said:

bwia said:

A $60,000 Ford Escape? Not quite. But rather this is a 2020 Lincoln Corsair, a baby Aviator, not quite but close. It looks good inside and out and a strong competitor to the GLC, RDX, BMW X3 and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6Eur1RUzE

I don't like the price, but I do like the simple clean lines on the front end and the grill. Do you hear me Lexus?

They said FWD started at $37k and AWD was $40k....top model $56k. If it is as good as it sounds it sounds like a winner. It sounds like a lot of nice car for the price......and beautiful inside and out.

driver100

cdnpinhead said:

But you’re right, driver100 would have to beat the heck out of it to get failure by 2021.

A.Yeah, he'd actually have to drive somewhere. What a concept.

B. Plus which, no one is going to kiss the hem of his garment driving such a plebian sled.

A. I put 7500 miles on my at home car, in 7 months and 5500 mileson the the Florida car in 5 months = 13000 miles, a little more than average.

B. No one has kissed the hem of my garment in almost a year now......not sure what that is about.

qbrozen

Sorry, but I smell a flop. Yes, it IS an upscale Escape. I fail to understand how they think it commands such a premium over an Escape. I mean ... better engine, maybe $2k? better interior, $5k. more sound deadening, $1k. By my math, that means it should start at $31,885.

BTW, the 2020 Escape is pretty good looking.

tjc78

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

laurasdada

Sandman6472 said:

OF, applied for a Enterprise driving gig right up the street here in Coconut Creek where Enterprise has a big office building. Not sure if it's their southern district office. The ad said something about washing vehicles but that sounds crazy. Have never done that at Hertz yet...and do not plan to. Only reason I'm applying in the first place as it would cut out my longish commute even though the hourly wage is a bit less. Doubt anything will come of it as I didn't take the job a couple of years ago as it didn't help my commuting issues one bit, in fact, made it worse. So I just declined the position, politely though. This new gig would be within 5 or so miles of the casa. No tolls involved either!!
So we'll see where this leads. Nice to have options.

Rented an Hyundai Elantra from Enterprise in Miami. Although the Hertz counter was in my hotel lobby, with Enterprise just down the hall, Enterprise was $10 cheaper for the day; Hertz seemed to tack on a lot of charges that Ent didn't. My guess is the extra charges went directly to Sandy's salary!

Just needed the car for a day trip to Boca, lunch with my 92 yo aunt and 66 yo cousin at Seasons 52. Showed the GF the old haunts of Boca, namely Mizner Park and parents former condo, Tierra del Mar. Very nice afternoon, inoffensive ride (but a bit noisy). Followed by a fab cruise on the Symphony of the Seas. Food, glorious food! What more could you ask for!

tjc78

So.. how was the largest passenger ship in the world?

stickguy

Escape is good looking. Wonder what my wife will think about it?

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

cdnpinhead said:

But you’re right, driver100 would have to beat the heck out of it to get failure by 2021.

A.Yeah, he'd actually have to drive somewhere. What a concept.

B. Plus which, no one is going to kiss the hem of his garment driving such a plebian sled.

A. I put 7500 miles on my at home car, in 7 months and 5500 mileson the the Florida car in 5 months = 13000 miles, a little more than average.

B. No one has kissed the hem of my garment in almost a year now......not sure what that is about.

As for "B" have you considered washing the darn thing?

houdini2

qbrozen said:

Sorry, but I smell a flop. Yes, it IS an upscale Escape. I fail to understand how they think it commands such a premium over an Escape. I mean ... better engine, maybe $2k? better interior, $5k. more sound deadening, $1k. By my math, that means it should start at $31,885.

BTW, the 2020 Escape is pretty good looking.

Well, the Mustang was a gigantic success when Ford put its body on a Ford Falcon, or maybe Pinto, so why not give it a try!

houdini2

houdini2 said:

qbrozen said:

Sorry, but I smell a flop. Yes, it IS an upscale Escape. I fail to understand how they think it commands such a premium over an Escape. I mean ... better engine, maybe $2k? better interior, $5k. more sound deadening, $1k. By my math, that means it should start at $31,885.

BTW, the 2020 Escape is pretty good looking.

ab348

tjc78 said:

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform, an update of the Epsilon platform, also used by the Malibu and Opel Insignia/Buick Regal. The Equinox/Terrain along with the Buick Envision and the outgoing Cruze and Volt use the GM D2XX platform.

Incentives are pretty much equal between Cadillac and Lincoln once hot initial demand cools, especially at model year end. The new Lincoln Corsair is nice and doesn't look too much like an Escape which was a problem for them in the past. Unfortunate that they named it after an Edsel model.

imidazol97

ab348 said:

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform, an update of the Epsilon platform, also used by the Malibu and Opel Insignia/Buick Regal. The Equinox/Terrain along with the Buick Envision and the outgoing Cruze and Volt use the GM D2XX platform

Spot on. Thanks for pointing that out.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

tjc78 said:

ab348 said:

A friend bought what must have been one of the last tube Trinitrons just before they went to flat screens - I think it was either a 28” or maybe even bigger if they made something that large, a floor model to boot. That thing weighed a ton. When he finally moved I think he left it behind.

Sony actually made a 40” tube TV. It was a total beast and got great reviews at the time.

I looked it up and what my friend had was the 32" model from what I can tell. Moving it was like moving a safe or a piano.

When I got my first wide screen TV in 2005 it was a Sony 50 inch job that Son #1 got for me when he worked for Sony at their New Stanton PA plant. I helped him get it out of his van and set it up in the first floor family room. I think it was Sony's first generation LCD TV that replaced their out-going rear projection TV line. It was pretty heavy but not as heavy as the 36 inch Toshiba CRT job it was replacing that still worked. He helped me carry that beast to the office on the second floor. When that thing finally died in 2010 (I think. Got it in 1994 while living in SC) I wrestled that thing onto the floor placed it face down and slid it down two sets of carpeted steps to the basement. From there I put it on my dolly and wheeled to the curb. Thankfully they still took TV's away back then.

I guess you can say, "where there is a will there is a way". If that were today, I'd have to call my Son's to come get it and take it to a recycling center.

jmonroe

tjc78

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform,

HMM...I didn't realize that. The XT4 must be a little bigger then as that is considered the Mid Size platform.

At any rate, it still is derived from more mainstream vehicles and trimmed according to it's price which is what I was alluding to.

Everyone does it, and the manufacturers couldn't survive without platform sharing.

ab348

I see the 2020 Escape has also been caught up in the Ford recall that originally snagged the 2020 Explorer.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-explorer-escape-super-duty-recall/

The Aviator is also caught up in this and I would suspect the Corsair may be as well if it is already in production.
Ford's continuing problems with new model launches would make me particularly wary of jumping in to be the first on the block with one of their new models. They just cannot seem to get it right out of the box.

Sandman6472

Think the Escape looks better than the Corsair to be honest but not a Ford lover here. Did like the C-Max and was pricing one out a few years back.
Trust me, my salary at Hertz isn't much to sneeze at to be honest, just over $9/hour. Driving around Miami is a dangerous proposition and should command at least $10. But get a small raise in January, so we'll see. Trust me, not there for the money!

Michaell

Sandman6472 said:

Think the Escape looks better than the Corsair to be honest but not a Ford lover here. Did like the C-Max and was pricing one out a few years back.
Trust me, my salary at Hertz isn't much to sneeze at to be honest, just over $9/hour. Driving around Miami is a dangerous proposition and should command at least $10. But get a small raise in January, so we'll see. Trust me, not there for the money!

Wow --- minimum wage here in CO is $11.10 for 2019. Most of the fast food places are paying $13/hr and up for entry level workers.

stickguy

I ain’t leaving the house for that much. Jersey has gone up. $10 now, $11 on 1/1/20, and up a buck every Jan 1 until hits $15.

28firefighter

$15/hr here in Seattle....

driver100

laurasdada said:

Sandman6472 said:

OF, applied for a Enterprise driving gig right up the street here in Coconut Creek where Enterprise has a big office building. Not sure if it's their southern district office. The ad said something about washing vehicles but that sounds crazy. Have never done that at Hertz yet...and do not plan to. Only reason I'm applying in the first place as it would cut out my longish commute even though the hourly wage is a bit less. Doubt anything will come of it as I didn't take the job a couple of years ago as it didn't help my commuting issues one bit, in fact, made it worse. So I just declined the position, politely though. This new gig would be within 5 or so miles of the casa. No tolls involved either!!
So we'll see where this leads. Nice to have options.

Rented an Hyundai Elantra from Enterprise in Miami. Although the Hertz counter was in my hotel lobby, with Enterprise just down the hall, Enterprise was $10 cheaper for the day; Hertz seemed to tack on a lot of charges that Ent didn't. My guess is the extra charges went directly to Sandy's salary!

Just needed the car for a day trip to Boca, lunch with my 92 yo aunt and 66 yo cousin at Seasons 52. Showed the GF the old haunts of Boca, namely Mizner Park and parents former condo, Tierra del Mar. Very nice afternoon, inoffensive ride (but a bit noisy). Followed by a fab cruise on the Symphony of the Seas. Food, glorious food! What more could you ask for!

Nice, but how did you like driving the Elantra?

driver100

ab348 said:

tjc78 said:

Lincoln typically offers some pretty heavy incentives. It's price is inline with it's competitors. The XT4 gets pricey really quickly and is an Equinox underneath.

I bet it does pretty well. I can see some people thinking of it as a baby Navigator.

Unfortunate that they named it after an Edsel model.

Not too many are going to remember that!

I was wondering what car it was on...thanks for the reminder.

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform,

HMM...I didn't realize that. The XT4 must be a little bigger then as that is considered the Mid Size platform.

At any rate, it still is derived from more mainstream vehicles and trimmed according to it's price which is what I was alluding to.

Everyone does it, and the manufacturers couldn't survive without platform sharing.

Platform sharing is different when it comes to the luxo brands. BMW/Benz/Caddy/Lexus are largely RWD-based platforms that aren’t found in econo models. When they do use a FWD platform, it is typically reflected in the price.

Besides, I wasn’t complaining that it IS the same underneath, just that they are charging more than I think they should for the added content.

Maybe I’m being too harsh. I mean, Honda charges about a $9k premium to go from the Accord to the TLX, and that does not seem to bother anybody. Lincoln is trumping that by $2k, though. Time will tell.

driver100

On January 1, 2019, Florida’s minimum wage is set to increase from $8.25 to $8.46. With this change, tipped workers must be paid $5.44 per hour and earn at least $3.02 in tip credits.

Florida’s Department of Economic Opportunity (DEO) announced that the minimum wage in Florida would increase from $8.25 to $8.45, effective January 1, 2019

I don't know why the first sentence says going up to $8.46 and in the next paragraph it says $8.45......looks like they lowered it at the last moment.....that could be a loss of 40 cents a week!

driver100

qbrozen said:

tjc78 said:

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform,

HMM...I didn't realize that. The XT4 must be a little bigger then as that is considered the Mid Size platform.

At any rate, it still is derived from more mainstream vehicles and trimmed according to it's price which is what I was alluding to.

Everyone does it, and the manufacturers couldn't survive without platform sharing.

Maybe I’m being too harsh. I mean, Honda charges about a $9k premium to go from the Accord to the TLX, and that does not seem to bother anybody. Lincoln is trumping that by $2k, though. Time will tell.

Besides, the more you pay the more people admire you!

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

cdnpinhead said:

But you’re right, driver100 would have to beat the heck out of it to get failure by 2021.

A.Yeah, he'd actually have to drive somewhere. What a concept.

B. Plus which, no one is going to kiss the hem of his garment driving such a plebian sled.

A. I put 7500 miles on my at home car, in 7 months and 5500 mileson the the Florida car in 5 months = 13000 miles, a little more than average.

B. No one has kissed the hem of my garment in almost a year now......not sure what that is about.

As for "B" have you considered washing the darn thing?

I didn't think of that, I am putting it in the wash with some 20 Mule Team Borax tonight!

tjc78

qbrozen said:

tjc78 said:

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform,

HMM...I didn't realize that. The XT4 must be a little bigger then as that is considered the Mid Size platform.

At any rate, it still is derived from more mainstream vehicles and trimmed according to it's price which is what I was alluding to.

Everyone does it, and the manufacturers couldn't survive without platform sharing.

Platform sharing is different when it comes to the luxo brands. BMW/Benz/Caddy/Lexus are largely RWD-based platforms that aren’t found in econo models. When they do use a FWD platform, it is typically reflected in the price.

Besides, I wasn’t complaining that it IS the same underneath, just that they are charging more than I think they should for the added content.

Maybe I’m being too harsh. I mean, Honda charges about a $9k premium to go from the Accord to the TLX, and that does not seem to bother anybody. Lincoln is trumping that by $2k, though. Time will tell.

Agreed. It is a hefty premium, but too early to tell what the actual transaction prices will be. I suspect there will be heavier discounts on the Lincoln.

Lexus seems to keep the delta fairly low. The Avalon starts at $35,800 while the ES starts at $39750.

berri

If it is too expensive for what it offers the deprecation rate down the road will reflect it. A lot of lux buyers lease, so I think the manufacturer can sometimes hide at least part of that in a lease.

qbrozen

houdini2 said:

Well, the Mustang was a gigantic success when Ford put its body on a Ford Falcon, or maybe Pinto, so why not give it a try!

I know you were being facetious, but let's look at that anyway. The Futura 2-door hardtop was $2226, while the Mustang squareback was $2427 and base Falcon was $1996.

So, even compared to the Falcon, the Stang had 21.9% markup. Vs the Futura, it was only 9%. At $24,995 for the Escape vs $35,945 on the Corsair, that's a whopping 43.8% premium! The aforementioned TLX is 39.1% more expensive than the Accord; the ES350 is only 11% more than the Avalon; and the Q3 is 35.6% more than the Tiguan. Those are just a few I looked up for the heck of it.

berri

All this gotta have the status in everything is going to hurt more than a few whenever the next recession hits.

explorerx4

A Corsair is going to be my wife's next vehicle in about 3 years.
60k is crazy, but she'll get a nice one, not totally loaded.
For example the one she has now has dubs with 255 width Pirelli's.
Can't get those on an Escape.

driver100

tjc78 said:

qbrozen said:

tjc78 said:

To be clear, the XT4 uses the E2 platform,

HMM...I didn't realize that. The XT4 must be a little bigger then as that is considered the Mid Size platform.

At any rate, it still is derived from more mainstream vehicles and trimmed according to it's price which is what I was alluding to.

Everyone does it, and the manufacturers couldn't survive without platform sharing.

Platform sharing is different when it comes to the luxo brands. BMW/Benz/Caddy/Lexus are largely RWD-based platforms that aren’t found in econo models. When they do use a FWD platform, it is typically reflected in the price.

Besides, I wasn’t complaining that it IS the same underneath, just that they are charging more than I think they should for the added content.

Maybe I’m being too harsh. I mean, Honda charges about a $9k premium to go from the Accord to the TLX, and that does not seem to bother anybody. Lincoln is trumping that by $2k, though. Time will tell.

Agreed. It is a hefty premium, but too early to tell what the actual transaction prices will be. I suspect there will be heavier discounts on the Lincoln.

Lexus seems to keep the delta fairly low. The Avalon starts at $35,800 while the ES starts at $39750.

And, can't you get a top of the line Camry for about $5000 less than an Avalon.....and you would never notice a difference according to the article I read?

stickguy

I don't think the TLX is really $9K more, if you compare model to model. Accord EXl is $30K, and base TLX is $33k. Tech package is ~$36,700. About the same as an Accord Touring.

andres3

snakeweasel said:

stickguy said:

snakeweasel said:

More car news, the Hyundai died as the wife was driving it yesterday. The engine just stopped and died. Couldn't get it going again. Had it towed to the dealership and should hear something today.

That’s not good. Hopefully something minor. At least you have a spare car now!

Nope not minor, the engine is toast completely lost. Now only good for as a very large, heavy, oily and greasy paperweight.

And I just changed the oil a week before hand.

No longer will it spring to life to sip the sweet nectar of dead dinosaur juice.

No longer will the 4 cylinders sing the 4 cycle symphony.

No longer will the 198 ponies propel my car from 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds (or is it 8.2 seconds? I forget which).

Good news is the car is still in warranty (barely) and the issue was caused by a recall issue so the service manager said Hyundai will be giving us a new motor. All the service manager is waiting for is the final ok.

How many miles on that 8 year old blown motor?

Isn't the 0-60 currently infinity absent a long downhill gravity induced fall?

198 ponies down to zero.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

We have a lot of Hyundai customers renting from the office I was at all summer. Most days, I'd make over a dozen trips back and forth there. A lot of the folks were getting new engines due to this recall and most were the 2011 Sonatas. Obviously, Hyundai is doing the right thing here and fixing them correctly. Much business for Hertz also!

An article I read said only about 2% of those engines were defective but that might just be company spin.

ab348

qbrozen said:

At $24,995 for the Escape vs $35,945 on the Corsair, that's a whopping 43.8% premium! The aforementioned TLX is 39.1% more expensive than the Accord; the ES350 is only 11% more than the Avalon; and the Q3 is 35.6% more than the Tiguan. Those are just a few I looked up for the heck of it.

I built a 2020 Escape Titanium with the 2.0 Ecoboost and a sunroof on Ford’s USA site and it came in a hair under $40K, so the difference isn’t so great. Even at that the interior isn’t as nice as that in the Corsair.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

OF, applied for a Enterprise driving gig right up the street here in Coconut Creek where Enterprise has a big office building. Not sure if it's their southern district office. The ad said something about washing vehicles but that sounds crazy. Have never done that at Hertz yet...and do not plan to. Only reason I'm applying in the first place as it would cut out my longish commute even though the hourly wage is a bit less. Doubt anything will come of it as I didn't take the job a couple of years ago as it didn't help my commuting issues one bit, in fact, made it worse. So I just declined the position, politely though. This new gig would be within 5 or so miles of the casa. No tolls involved either!!
So we'll see where this leads. Nice to have options.

When I applied for the job I recall the ad said something about washing cars but that turned out to be a position in the individual branch offices. That worker picks up customers and cleans cars between pick ups. As least here in NY that’s a different job than Transporter who works moving cars to offices, from offices and to dealers after sale. Transporters don’t deal directly with customers and don’t work for any one branch.

The hiring people initially thought I was applying for the branch office job and I had to tell them I only wanted to drive cars not clean them. Sometimes the big shots have no idea what the little people do.