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omarman

tjc78 said:

A good friend of mine always said Beauty is a light switch away

"Beauty is in the eye of the bee-holder"

stickguy

bad timing on that GIF. MaryAnn died today (or yesterday) from Covid.

ab348

Got my car insurance renewal in the mail today. Was already discontented with my insurer and that went through the roof when my premium for next year did the same. I paid $1300 for this year which I thought was too much given how little I drive. Imagine my reaction when the renewal stated they want $1800 for next year. This is a company I’ve been with for 23 years and never once made a claim.

I’ve asked them for an explanation of the increase and options to reduce the premium. I have a contending company offering a quote of around $1200/yr. I can see a change in my future.

sda

stickguy said:

bad timing on that GIF. MaryAnn died today (or yesterday) from Covid.

Sad, I just read that as well. She was my favorite.

stickguy

speaking of tires, the princess called this afternoon to report that a light and message came on in her VW, and she wanted to know what it meant. It was the TPMS warning , of course right after she had gotten on to I95. Car was driving ok and she was not going to be on long, so she got off the next exit as scheduled and parked. And got a quick lesson on checking her tire pressure (I made sure there was always a good quality digital gauge in every car). Turned out that all the tires were within a pound of each other. Possibly a bit higher than expected but they were hot. After she looked in the owners manual seems that it may have been just from not being reset after recent tire rotation. Either that or the one tire was above the preset range. In any case, light is gone and tires fine.

And better than getting a call from the side of the road with a shredded tire!

stickguy

speaking of gas, stopped at an Exxon today and they had about the weirdest spread I have seen. Regular was 2.39, plus 2.49 (so abnormally low jump), but PUG was 3.29 (an absurd jump). But really illogical since mid grade is just 1/2 and 1/2 RUG and PUG.

explorerx4

I took that GIF to be a tribute.
RUG to PUG is about an 80 cent differential locally.

roadburner

sda said:

stickguy said:

bad timing on that GIF. MaryAnn died today (or yesterday) from Covid.

Sad, I just read that as well. She was my favorite.

Mine too.

driver100

stickguy said:

bad timing on that GIF. MaryAnn died today (or yesterday) from Covid.

I am sad!

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

omarman

Was really sad this morning to read about the passing of Dawn Wells. I still had a gif of the female cast of Gilligan's Island performing as the Honeybees. It's a scene from my favorite episode called "Don't Bug the Mosquitoes." The Mosquitoes are played by a folk group called The Wellingtons who sang the Gilligan's Island theme song in the first season.

Tina Louise and Natalie Schafer did their own singing for the song "You Need Us." Dawn Wells part was dubbed in by none other than Jackie DeShannon, "What the World Needs Now Is Love."

When I look at this video from that episode I am focused on Mary Ann at the 1:23 mark. Dawn Wells looks delighted as she watches 64 y/o Natalie doing her solo and dancing around like one of the "kids."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ

venture

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Got my car insurance renewal in the mail today. Was already discontented with my insurer and that went through the roof when my premium for next year did the same. I paid $1300 for this year which I thought was too much given how little I drive. Imagine my reaction when the renewal stated they want $1800 for next year. This is a company I’ve been with for 23 years and never once made a claim.

I’ve asked them for an explanation of the increase and options to reduce the premium. I have a contending company offering a quote of around $1200/yr. I can see a change in my future.

That reminds me, I need to modify my farm insurance policy into a homeowner’s now that I’m retired from farming.

graphicguy

That reminds me...it’s about time to get some quotes to see if my current policy is cost effective. I do so every couple of years to keep the insurance companies honest.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

There is a new breed who could merge onto the higher sooner, but they like to get as far as they can on the on ramp, and leave you with no option but to let them squeeze in.

kyfdx

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

There is a new breed who could merge onto the higher sooner, but they like to get as far as they can on the on ramp, and leave you with no option but to let them squeeze in.

Sounds like you are trying to keep them from merging, unless they want to get behind you..

imidazol97

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

There is a new breed who could merge onto the higher sooner, but they like to get as far as they can on the on ramp, and leave you with no option but to let them squeeze in.

This post implies that the merging driver actually takes a look behind to see the speeds of and distances between upcoming cars for a merge. Here in my area, more than 50% don't even look: they just expected folks in the right hand lane to provide for their merge, even where the spacing is wrong and/or the speeds are wrong.

That was one thing I enjoyed when I had my 1961 Chevy driving around Greater Cincinnati. No one bullied me because it was a tank and they perceived that the driver was fearless with nothing to loose in a 20 year old car. Imagine the matron in her almost new MB merging and trying to bluff a country blue 1961 Chev back in the 70s and 80s.

coldinohio

Dawn wells: there are/were several Mizzou alumni on this board... She went to college at Stephens for a while, and often came back to Columbia for fundraising esp theatrical... My Grandmother worked at Stephens and I met her in the mid 1960s--- so I was a big Maryann fan...

mjfloyd1

Remember the 90's Budweiser commercial where a guy asks "Ginger or Maryann". A girl pipes in "Ginger was a bimbo" and then the two guys say "Maryann"??

imidazol97

Heat pump repaired. I still want to check into options after 5 years are up. Parts are warrantied. All 10 years. All parts as I was told by The Guy. Labor is not after 5 years.

The HVAC guy really gets into his work.

imidazol97

stickguy said:

speaking of gas, stopped at an Exxon today and they had about the weirdest spread I have seen. Regular was 2.39, plus 2.49 (so abnormally low jump), but PUG was 3.29 (an absurd jump). But really illogical since mid grade is just 1/2 and 1/2 RUG and PUG.

In the old days, the gas pumps had visible odometer like readouts: one for reg and one for premium. When filling Plus, the regular changed 2 gallons for 1 gallon change from the premium tank. That mix apparently gave the 89 octane rating for the middle pump. So after that I just occasionally put in premium and other times put in regular to get a 50/50 mix. Cheaper.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

snakeweasel

venture said:

Somehow I got this eerie feeling that sometime in 2021 we will be longing for the good ole days of 2020. I can only see things getting worse.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

Poor drivers not the lack of HP.

snakeweasel

mjfloyd1 said:

Remember the 90's Budweiser commercial where a guy asks "Ginger or Maryann". A girl pipes in "Ginger was a bimbo" and then the two guys say "Maryann"??

We always had the opinion that Ginger was the girl you dated but Mary Ann was the girl you brought home to meet mom.

roadburner

stickguy said:

speaking of tires, the princess called this afternoon to report that a light and message came on in her VW, and she wanted to know what it meant. It was the TPMS warning , of course right after she had gotten on to I95. Car was driving ok and she was not going to be on long, so she got off the next exit as scheduled and parked. And got a quick lesson on checking her tire pressure (I made sure there was always a good quality digital gauge in every car). Turned out that all the tires were within a pound of each other. Possibly a bit higher than expected but they were hot. After she looked in the owners manual seems that it may have been just from not being reset after recent tire rotation. Either that or the one tire was above the preset range. In any case, light is gone and tires fine.

And better than getting a call from the side of the road with a shredded tire!

A friend of mine who’s been ill had the TPMS light in his wife’s Corolla come on last week. She has no mechanical aptitude so I drove over and set the air pressures and reset the TPMS. As I thought, a cold snap had caused the TPMS to trigger.

roadburner

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

fintail

Heck, even in the fintail, merging isn't an issue. Ramps here usually have plenty of room to wind it up to the (often underposted) limit, not that traffic is moving that fast anyway, even if volumes are low. Spending a few days last week back in the Seattle metro, I got to re-experience the fraidy cats who go 50 at most in a wide open 60 where at least half the cars are going 65 or more. The issue there is people who merge at 43 mph and then make a beeline for the left lane, because freedumb.

I think it's the winding up of a lower powered car that gets to people. A powerful engine barely idling at 65 feels different than hitting 5K rpm to get there quickly. I could even feel it in my rental 430i last week - I had to push it a lot more than the wagon to move it along, but once pushed, it responded without incident.

roadburner said:

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

driver100

kyfdx said:

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I’m not sure of that after witnessing the number of cars who speed up only enough to pace you on the ramp and then fling themselves into your lane at the end without looking. :@

There is a new breed who could merge onto the higher sooner, but they like to get as far as they can on the on ramp, and leave you with no option but to let them squeeze in.

Sounds like you are trying to keep them from merging, unless they want to get behind you..

No, If I am merging I get on where there is an opening....I don't stay in the merge lane at full speed and then force my way in just when I run out of road. These guys could merge sooner where there is an opening, but they use the merge lane as a way to get a few extra cars ahead. I'm not going to cut them off because it isn't worth colliding with them......and they know that.

driver100

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

No it's not go slow and pick your spot, It's pick your spot as soon as you can, get there and match traffic speed and merge. You are not slowing down the guy behind you if s/he is merging properly. It's not gun it and get in front of as many people as possible. If you are going significantly faster than the flow of traffic on the highway you're doing it wrong.

mjfloyd1

Link that has a cool Ford ad about Covid in it

https://www.newser.com/story/300715/ford-replaces-f-150-ads-with-finish-strong-campaign.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

No it's not go slow and pick your spot, It's pick your spot as soon as you can, get there and match traffic speed and merge. You are not slowing down the guy behind you if s/he is merging properly. It's not gun it and get in front of as many people as possible. If you are going significantly faster than the flow of traffic on the highway you're doing it wrong.

If I am entering a highway and I see that a big transport truck is doing 70 and we are going to be at the critical enter point at the same time I would rather get ahead of him - it might save him from trying to go one lane over, and it will open up the space behind him so the car behind me might have a chance to enter.
Same as the guy in the underpowered car at the advanced green light....the car is so slow only he gets through, if he could go faster 3 cars could get through.
The rules are made so traffic should move as efficiently as possible, if you have to slow down to make a maneuver that you could have made more easily and safely going faster than I would go faster....within the speed limits - horsepower allows you to do that. This is a case where the poky guy can be more of a hazard than the guy who uses speed wisely. Going slow on an entry ramp is one step better than coming to a stop on the ramp....which is a real hazard.

roadburner

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

Probably not- since you are likely taking the curve on the entrance ramp at 10 mph under the posted advisory speed and simultaneously dragging your brakes.- which is why you "need" the extra horsepower to merge.

roadburner

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

No it's not go slow and pick your spot, It's pick your spot as soon as you can, get there and match traffic speed and merge. You are not slowing down the guy behind you if s/he is merging properly. It's not gun it and get in front of as many people as possible. If you are going significantly faster than the flow of traffic on the highway you're doing it wrong.

Horsepower is often utilized to compensate for a lot of driving ineptitude- I see it on the road as well as on the track.

stickguy

Same as the guy in the underpowered car at the advanced green light....the car is so slow only he gets through, if he could go faster 3 cars could get through.

well, unless he is driving a 1965 Beetle with a bad clutch and down 2 cylinders, that is not happening. I think you are confusing inattention and staring at your phone with a lack of HP.

and I fully believe that nearly everyone out on the road never actually uses all their HP

driver100

roadburner said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

Probably not- since you are likely taking the curve on the entrance ramp at 10 mph under the posted advisory speed and simultaneously dragging your brakes.- which is why you "need" the extra horsepower to merge.

How do you know what speed I take the curve at? The speed limit on the curve is usually a yellow cautionary sign, made for the lowest common denominator....a car or more likely a truck that doesn't take curves very well. One reason I like a nice handling car is so it will take corners well, and I don't have to go unnecessarily slow.

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

Link that has a cool Ford ad about Covid in it

https://www.newser.com/story/300715/ford-replaces-f-150-ads-with-finish-strong-campaign.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

If anyone needs a car commercial to take proper precautions to stay healthy at this point they probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive in public.

Speaking of Ford F-150s, I took a King Ranch to the Auction today. Much too luxurious to be a truck. I think it was the 3.5L ecoboost and at 20 psi it was a rocket.Amazing how they can get a heavy vehicle like that to move out so well.

nyccarguy

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

No it's not go slow and pick your spot, It's pick your spot as soon as you can, get there and match traffic speed and merge. You are not slowing down the guy behind you if s/he is merging properly. It's not gun it and get in front of as many people as possible. If you are going significantly faster than the flow of traffic on the highway you're doing it wrong.

Horsepower is often utilized to compensate for a lot of driving ineptitude- I see it on the road as well as on the track.

I remember watching racing a long time ago. Every time a 911 would come screaming into a corner, I’d watch a Viper cut right in front of him. The 911 would have to downshift and get the engine boiling again while the Viper just mashed the gas and let it’s torque do all the work.

explorerx4

Hoovie's latest video is pretty great.
Amazing how many views and comments only a few hours after posting it.

stickguy

the Lambos? watched that. He was agog the entire time. Even the Weezard looked like a little kid on Christmas morning.

explorerx4

I knew is guy that had a Countach like that one. Knew him as a bar owner, but he went away for dealing.
Too dumb to figure out how he went from a Chevy pickup to one of those.

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

What\s the point in having all that hp if you can't use it to accelerate onto a highway?

Just about any car on the market can get up to highway speeds on the vast majority of highway on ramps with moderate accelerator use. They only real exceptions are onramps where due to geography and/or congestion on ramps are short, but that is a minorly of on ramps.

I have to get onto a pretty heavily traveled highway 2 to 6 times a week, and 80% of the time I am thankful for having 340 hp......it can mean the difference between speeding ahead of oncoming traffic or having to watch and carefully thread my way in. And by speeding ahead I don't have to get in front of a transport truck barreling down on me, or get caught in a huge mass of cars.

I am not sure what you mean by "pretty heavily traveled" but for me when traffic is pretty heavy its going under the speed limit. And heavy traffic means you are always going to be getting in front or trapped behind something.

What I am saying is that any car sold today has enough power to get up to highway speed on the vast majority of highway on ramps. Unless you are in a dense urban environment or someplace like the mountains your on ramps tend to be long enough to easily get up to highway speeds. On the Sebring with only 170 or so HP I easily matched or exceeded the flow of traffic on entering interstate highways, the only exceptions was when there was a timid driver ahead of me slowing me down. And believe me that Sebring was no race car.

I agree 100%. I have no problem merging into traffic with my glacially slow Clubman. If you “need” over 200 hp to safely merge into interstate traffic I suspect what you really need is to sell your car and buy a huge box of bus tokens.

Yeh, go slow, pick your spot, and put the guy behind you who would also like to enter the highway in jeopardy.
I have had slow....the 2013 Passat, and although you can get on I-75 you don't have the same options you do if you can speed up to get on. If I am behind your Clubman I could have very limited options for getting on....I also consider the guys behind me.

No it's not go slow and pick your spot, It's pick your spot as soon as you can, get there and match traffic speed and merge. You are not slowing down the guy behind you if s/he is merging properly. It's not gun it and get in front of as many people as possible. If you are going significantly faster than the flow of traffic on the highway you're doing it wrong.

Horsepower is often utilized to compensate for a lot of driving ineptitude- I see it on the road as well as on the track.

I remember watching racing a long time ago. Every time a 911 would come screaming into a corner, I’d watch a Viper cut right in front of him. The 911 would have to downshift and get the engine boiling again while the Viper just mashed the gas and let it’s torque do all the work.

My Club Sport actually made me a better driver as there's not enough horsepower to cover up mistakes such as over-braking or just flat blowing a corner. Horsepower can cover up a multitude of sins, and it's harder for a student to "get it" when his first HPDE car has a lot of power and grip.
I once had a B student who-driving a mildly modified E46 325i-lapped an E46 M3, E92 M3, EVO VIII, and 993 in her run group. More than once. Talk about a humbling experience.

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Link that has a cool Ford ad about Covid in it

https://www.newser.com/story/300715/ford-replaces-f-150-ads-with-finish-strong-campaign.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

If anyone needs a car commercial to take proper precautions to stay healthy at this point they probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive in public.

Speaking of Ford F-150s, I took a King Ranch to the Auction today. Much too luxurious to be a truck. I think it was the 3.5L ecoboost and at 20 psi it was a rocket.Amazing how they can get a heavy vehicle like that to move out so well.

I don't need a big business to tell me how to think on things not related to Fords. I understand science.

stickguy

explorerx4 said:

I knew is guy that had a Countach like that one. Knew him as a bar owner, but he went away for dealing.
Too dumb to figure out how he went from a Chevy pickup to one of those.

I love how he referred to the color combo as cocaine white over (darn, can't remember the joke) red.

explorerx4

The color perfectly fit Hoovie's cmment.

mjfloyd1

imidazol97 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Link that has a cool Ford ad about Covid in it

https://www.newser.com/story/300715/ford-replaces-f-150-ads-with-finish-strong-campaign.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

If anyone needs a car commercial to take proper precautions to stay healthy at this point they probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive in public.

Speaking of Ford F-150s, I took a King Ranch to the Auction today. Much too luxurious to be a truck. I think it was the 3.5L ecoboost and at 20 psi it was a rocket.Amazing how they can get a heavy vehicle like that to move out so well.

I don't need a big business to tell me how to think on things not related to Fords. I understand science.

Many don’t understand science

driver100

stickguy said:

well, unless he is driving a 1965 Beetle with a bad clutch and down 2 cylinders, that is not happening. I think you are confusing inattention and staring at your phone with a lack of HP.

and I fully believe that nearly everyone out on the road never actually uses all their HP

Usually it is inattention or sleeping at the wheel, but I have seen underpowered cars move slowly through an advanced light.....might be the type of driver who drives the car but the car might be a factor. I know I have the horses to get around the corner fast enough to allow the maximum number of cars to clear the light, if the cars behind me move too.

driver100