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driver100

jipster said:

We actually at a sports bar this very moment. He's throwing them down pretty fast.

Maybe if you let him go into a stupor he'll forget about the deal.

oldfarmer50

jipster said:

Anybody ever go into a auto repair facility, for an oil change, and come out with a work order for over $2,000? Goodyear Auto Center says my Milan has a seized caliper on rear passenger side. So, that's 2 rebuilt calipers, 2 new rotors with pads and brake lines. Also, they wouldn't repair a slow leak on front tires. They said there wasn't enough tread on the edges. So gave me an estimate for 4 new tires. Even though back tires are good. A buddy and myself, mostly the buddy, are going to try to fix the brakes tomorrow. Hopefully just seized pins.

The car is originally from northern Indiana, so a bit of rust on underside. Buddy and I replaced rear pads and rotors, cleaned slide pins about 2 years ago. So guessing brake line fittings may be rusted and leaking fluid. Cross fingers the ole Jipster doesn't have to spend too much money on this.

Those tire centers are notorious for using scare tactics to inflate the bill. If you feel capable, do the work yourself and save on the inflated estimate.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

jipster said:

@Michaell said:

Given how hard you worked him this afternoon, are you surprised he's worked up a thirst?

Think we're both fairly thirsty. He said he's ordering 200 wings since I'm buying. He's joking, I think, but o.k with me.

With how the price of wings have shot up lately that’s at least 200 bucks right there.

I hope that chicken farmer in Ohio gets it figured out. His first attempt created a chicken with 3 wings, which was what he wanted to do. The down side was that the chicken only had 1 leg.

jmonroe

Someone needs to make chickens with 4 legs and 4 wings....oldfarmer, where are you?

Nota bad idea, I understand that most wing joints these days have removed the price of wings from the menu and now state “market price”. Does this mean that there will be ADMs on chicken wings?

tjc78

Wings have gotten pricey!

kyfdx

Wings that were $13.95 at my favorite place are now $17.50. (and, yes.. they show "market price" on the menu, though they've only raised them one time to that price).

Hasn't stopped me from getting them.

bwia

2023 Nissan Ariya Prices Range from $47,125 to $60,125. Bait and switch or is demand that strong for the Ariya?

Reservations are now open for the electric crossover with a claimed range of up to 300 miles, but deliveries won't start until fall 2022.

Deliveries of the new 2023 Nissan Ariya are still a ways off, but Nissan is opening reservations, releasing pricing, and sharing a few more specs for this new electric crossover model. The Ariya starts at $47,125 for its base front-wheel-drive Venture+ version with a claimed 300 miles of range, while the loaded all-wheel-drive model with a claimed 265 miles of range costs $60,125.

Other than the base trim, the other Ariya models available for reservations include Evolve+ ($50,125), Premiere ($54,625), and Platinum+ ($60,125). Venture+, Evolve+, and Premiere models have a single-motor front-wheel-drive setup with 238 horsepower and 221 pound-feet of torque, while the Platinum+ has a dual-motor all-wheel-drive setup with 389 horsepower and 442 pound-feet of torque. Nissan claims a 60 mph time of 7.2 seconds for the FWD model and 4.9 seconds for the AWD model.

bwia

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

andres3

When a chain shop says your Camry needs work, you know they are full of it.

sda

Uh oh! A troublesome Corolla per CR: " The Corolla Hatchback stood out in our tests for its excellent fuel economy but lost its CR recommendation after a drop in reliability to below average this year, making it the least-reliable Toyota. This drop is primarily due to transmission issues with the continuously variable transmission (CVT). Members reported problems ranging from rough shifting to a rebuild or replacement of the transmission.

When reached for comment, a Toyota spokesman told CR: “We are aware of issues relating to the transmission found in some Corolla Hatchbacks, and they have been remedied. There was a recall issued in December 2018 for (certain) Corolla Hatchbacks with the CVT.”

qbrozen

Rough shifting in a CVT is quite a feat.

qbrozen

bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

Ugh, and I didn't get so much as a card.

oldfarmer50

bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

Personally or nationally?

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

Rough shifting in a CVT is quite a feat.

Yep, I thought the same thing but I had no one to argue with. Now, if they said it had no umpf that’s another thing but slipping? Who writes this stuff anyway?

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

@bwia said:
Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

I’ve had two. The first one was a 50% success!

bwia

oldfarmer50 said:

bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

Personally and nationally. Vets and farmers with who bag 100 ousters in one year are awarded the vas deferens trophy.

bwia

Now, that's an ugly EV SUV; except for the rear end that is especially attractive. This Vietnamese company's ambitious plans include two electric SUVs with up to 422 miles of range and styling by Pininfarina.

Vietnamese automaker VinFast plans to expand to North America with two new electric SUVs. The compact VF e35 and VF e36 look attractive with styling by Pininfarina. Claimed electric range for the smaller e35 is as high as 310 miles per charge while the larger e36 is supposedly good for up to 422 miles.

driver100

I saw a KIA k5 today in a flat light gray, I think it is Wolf Gray. It looks smart....really looks like an expensive furrin car....well it is furrin but you know what I mean....

And, it actually has a beautiful front end too.

driver100

They did a nice job on the interior too!

stickguy

It does look upscale. Too bad I won’t step foot in the Kia deal down here.

qbrozen

bwia said:

I'm pretty shocked any auto designer thought "hey, I'll steal the nose from a Citroen!"

ab348

Stories like this one about Kia Canada keep popping up and end up throwing cold water on any desires I might have for one.

https://twitter.com/sharronmatthews/status/1461820784469553157?s=21

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Stories like this one about Kia Canada keep popping up and end up throwing cold water on any desires I might have for one.

https://twitter.com/sharronmatthews/status/1461820784469553157?s=21

She did everything except check the oil. Either there WAS an engine defect or the service department screwed up the oil change.

Nevertheless, I’ll be checking my own oil first thing tomorrow. I wonder which engine she had.

jipster

@driver100 said:
Maybe if you let him go into a stupor he'll forget about the deal.

He was drinking the high octane bẻer... West Sixth. I was drinking the lightweight stuff...Michelob Ultra. I ended up in the stupor though. Good time.

Odd sight when I went to pick up those calipers from AutoZone. Someone had stolen all the wheels from their work truck. It was in their parking lot sitting on nothing but its rotors.

fintail

Interesting vaporware, and good quality CGI. I want to see the C-pillar of the big one in person.

bwia said:

Now, that's an ugly EV SUV; except for the rear end that is especially attractive. This Vietnamese company's ambitious plans include two electric SUVs with up to 422 miles of range and styling by Pininfarina.

Vietnamese automaker VinFast plans to expand to North America with two new electric SUVs. The compact VF e35 and VF e36 look attractive with styling by Pininfarina. Claimed electric range for the smaller e35 is as high as 310 miles per charge while the larger e36 is supposedly good for up to 422 miles.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

I’ve had two. The first one was a 50% success!

Does that mean when you didn’t need it, it worked fine?

jmonroe

driver100

@mjfloyd1 I’ve had two. The first one was a 50% success!

Does that mean when you didn’t need it, it worked fine?

jmonroe

jmonroe1 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

I’ve had two. The first one was a 50% success!

Does that mean when you didn’t need it, it worked fine?

jmonroe

Does it mean he had half a kid?

mjfloyd1

Four halves

bwia

A Hot Rod Before Its Time: Ford’s Model A, With a Boost

This car was built almost exclusively with 1930s mechanical components, but it has been driven as fast as 70 m.p.h.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/business/ford-model-a-hot-rod.html

jmonroe1

bwia said:

A Hot Rod Before Its Time: Ford’s Model A, With a Boost

This car was built almost exclusively with 1930s mechanical components, but it has been driven as fast as 70 m.p.h.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/business/ford-model-a-hot-rod.html

That’s what a tune will do for you.

jmonroe

roadburner

stickguy said:

It does look upscale. Too bad I won’t step foot in the Kia deal down here.

Plus it's a big sedan with FWD- and my local dealers are light years beyond inept.

driver100

ab348 said:

Stories like this one about Kia Canada keep popping up and end up throwing cold water on any desires I might have for one.

That is a terrible experience, however, there are lots of happy KIA and Hyundai owners as well. It is hard to know what actually happened though, she says the warning light didn't come on but someone may have told her to say that after the fact. Hard to believe a car goes empty on oil and a simple warning light didn't go on. Some people who aren't knowledgeable think that is just an annoying warning light, and you can still drive around for a while before getting it checked.
I do know that when we sold my brothers Accent to the dealer they were a sleazy bunch who would say anything to sell a car or in his case give him bottom dollar for his car.
The reviews are good for KIA/Hyundai and I would consider one........I would say every make has cars that are troublesome, and few car makers will take the high road.

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

snakeweasel said:

andres3 said:

snakeweasel said:

andres3 said:

This is just the tip of the iceberg, the main purpose of AB 43 is to gut the use of the objective subjective 85th percentile in favor of arbitrary and subjective lower speed limits for various loophole reasons now included, which will of course maximize traffic tickets and revenue generation.

There fixed it for you.

The 85th percentile is in no way subjective. It is measurable and repeatable. The very definition of science. You are just wrong here, as usual and/or almost always.

There is a mountain of evidence for the 85th as opposed to the 80th, or 75th, and again, it's from that pesky thing called repeatable results. The goal posts don't have to move; the results are what they are.

Most explanations of the 85th percentile state that it is an assumption that 85% of the people and that it is a "rule of thumb". Both of those refute it as being objective. It isn't measurable as there are plenty of examples were more than 15% of individuals were doing unsafe activities. it isn't repeatable as many studies show that the 85th percentile doesn't work in urbanized areas. because of that in 2018 a UCLA study recommended that California should end its practice of setting speed limits based on the 85th percentile speed and shift the authority for setting speed limits to local jurisdictions.

The "rule of thumb" seems to only be yours, the IIHS's, and other Vision Zero proponents position.

Go figure, the Engineers at:

1) US Dept. of Transportation
2) Federal Highway Administration
3) Members of the ITE (Institute of Transportation Engineers)

All see it differently than you do and your so-called uncited UCLA study.

They sure do use the term "engineering" a lot when writing about the 85th percentile method. Sorry to burst your fake news bubbles.

Based on this analysis, I recommend that California end the practice of mandating the 85th percentile method as the only method for setting speed limits, particularly in urban areas. While the operating speed on a roadway is an important characteristic that should be surveyed and documented, it is not the only metric, or even the most important one, to consider when setting a speed limit to produce safe outcomes.

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6np549qf

Cited. Sorry to bust your fake news.

Here is another that supports what I say.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020/7/24/understanding-the-85th-percentile-speed

Both state that in more built up areas roads do give drivers a false sense of safety than do many rural roads and that makes use of the 85th percentile resulting in to high of a speed limit. However they do come to different conclusions. The UCLA study suggests allowing those who set speed limits to use other metrics to set speed limits and the other suggest redesigning roads to slow traffic down.

Also please note that I do work for a government agency that runs builds and maintains highways and I do talk to the traffic engineers and we have discussed this so I'm not ignorant on this.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

tjc78 said:

Holy crap … the Nest cameras are like 4x the price of other brands.

"But they're the Tesla of cameras!"

You mean you can only use them for a period of time then you have to wait an hour or so to charge them up?

snakeweasel

tjc78 said:

@ab348 said:

"But they're the Tesla of cameras!"

Well.. I’m too cheap to buy a Tesla so it makes sense I am too cheap to buy Nest cameras!

I was in Home Depot and got sticker shock from the thermostat! At least that was a freebie!

Whenever I see those I think of this;

qbrozen

Every time speed limits are argued, an angel loses its wings. Fact.

snakeweasel

explorerx4 said:

I have gas heat, hot water heater and dryer. My monthly NG bill averages less $100 a month.
When I go to bed, I turn the thermostat down and turn it back up when I go downstairs in the morning.

I have an inexpensive programable thermostat that's set to go down just before we go to bed and work and to turn up just before we wake and get home. The only problem was that over the last week I have been getting up a lot earlier so I could get to work at 6 AM so I could work later in the day to catch up on some crap so I was waking up in a cold house.

snakeweasel

qbrozen said:

I trust the CIA to know precisely what temp I like my bedroom at night.

Why? Are you expecting to mysteriously disappear one night and you want your holding cell to be a comfortable temp?

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

My new rule is, don't by refurbished or rebuilt products.
Mrs D100 bought a $200 vacuum from Amazon - they don't call it refurbished anymore, it is "Renewed".
I just watched on Marketplace (Cdn consumer show) how Best Buy sells refurbished computers tablets etc and when the experts tested them they didn't perform as well as the new ones....some functions weren't even set up.
So the vacuum arrives, MrsD sets it up, and the motor hardly has any power.
We pack it up, and go to the computer to return it to Amazon.
A little resistance but when I said we were returning this one but would be buying a new one they said they would issue a full credit, which they did immediately. I am sure they check to see how much you buy, and how much you return before taking stuff back - check your past history.
They also said, don't bother sending this one back to them, give it to charity or toss it out. Well, we can save some of the parts.
Now I have to cut up the box it came in.
A few lessons, I'd steer away from "refurbished" etc., and I still like buying from Amazon.

Before you give it to a charity check to be sure the original owner did leave their cat stuck in there.

jmonroe

Schrodingers vacuum cleaner?

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

Back in the '80s when we had maybe a dozen TV channels to watch even with cable, I got into the habit of watching Motorweek on PBS every Sunday. I did that for years but as time went on I got away from it and haven't watched it in years until today, when I turned on the TV a bit early to watch the F1 pre-race show and saw it was running over on PBS. I was surprised that the host John Davis still looked and sounded pretty much the same after 41 years. Their tech guy Pat Goss seems to be running on fumes, sadly. I didn't recognize any of the other cast from the old days. What an incredible run.

Lucky you, back in the 80's I was in Kodiak and I was lucky to get one TV station and 3 radio stations. Then just before I left we got cable and we got a whopping 6 stations.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

fintail said:

I bought a "refurbished" Dyson vacuum on ebay last year. I think it was really a way they were disposing of unsold stock - the machine was still in all original wrapping and obviously untouched. It has had zero issues.

driver100 said:

My new rule is, don't by refurbished or rebuilt products.
Mrs D100 bought a $200 vacuum from Amazon - they don't call it refurbished anymore, it is "Renewed".
I just watched on Marketplace (Cdn consumer show) how Best Buy sells refurbished computers tablets etc and when the experts tested them they didn't perform as well as the new ones....some functions weren't even set up.
So the vacuum arrives, MrsD sets it up, and the motor hardly has any power.
We pack it up, and go to the computer to return it to Amazon.
A little resistance but when I said we were returning this one but would be buying a new one they said they would issue a full credit, which they did immediately. I am sure they check to see how much you buy, and how much you return before taking stuff back - check your past history.
They also said, don't bother sending this one back to them, give it to charity or toss it out. Well, we can save some of the parts.
Now I have to cut up the box it came in.
A few lessons, I'd steer away from "refurbished" etc., and I still like buying from Amazon.

We had a refurbished Dyson before this too, and it worked for a few years. Some items are refurbished by the company and those are probably up to standard. Now it seems companies don't want to bother, they'd rather get rid of the item and let someone else deal with it, and a lot of these guys aren't that good at fixing the problem it had. The cost of a refurbished isn't that different, in fact I think this one was about $40 more for the new one, on a $250 item.

Companies may sell off new items as refurbished when new models come out...they don't want to upset people who paid the full price.

It could have also been an open box return. Sometimes they go through the same process as a refurbished as they want to make sure everything is there.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

that bugs me too. the part of the dial that really matters is all jammed together, and not enough room for numbers to tell you where you are at. I think it only shows 20, 40, 60, 80 listed out. I would be happier to have it stop a lot lower but spread the dial out.

actually, cars with digital speedos take care of that problem. I have never had one though. Though the Maverick has both a normal speedo and a digital readout in the center screen.

Personally I prefer an analog speedo. Mainly because it does give me a reference point to other speeds. That being said the BMW has an analog speedo but has a digital on as an HUD and the bike only has digital (which I can switch between metric and freedom units).

snakeweasel

qbrozen said:

I prefer to use The Force.

Yeah everyone uses the Force, but only us cool kids use The Schwartz.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

I bought a "refurbished" Dyson vacuum on ebay last year. I think it was really a way they were disposing of unsold stock - the machine was still in all original wrapping and obviously untouched. It has had zero issues.

driver100 said:

My new rule is, don't by refurbished or rebuilt products.
Mrs D100 bought a $200 vacuum from Amazon - they don't call it refurbished anymore, it is "Renewed".
I just watched on Marketplace (Cdn consumer show) how Best Buy sells refurbished computers tablets etc and when the experts tested them they didn't perform as well as the new ones....some functions weren't even set up.
So the vacuum arrives, MrsD sets it up, and the motor hardly has any power.
We pack it up, and go to the computer to return it to Amazon.
A little resistance but when I said we were returning this one but would be buying a new one they said they would issue a full credit, which they did immediately. I am sure they check to see how much you buy, and how much you return before taking stuff back - check your past history.
They also said, don't bother sending this one back to them, give it to charity or toss it out. Well, we can save some of the parts.
Now I have to cut up the box it came in.
A few lessons, I'd steer away from "refurbished" etc., and I still like buying from Amazon.

We had a refurbished Dyson before this too, and it worked for a few years. Some items are refurbished by the company and those are probably up to standard. Now it seems companies don't want to bother, they'd rather get rid of the item and let someone else deal with it, and a lot of these guys aren't that good at fixing the problem it had. The cost of a refurbished isn't that different, in fact I think this one was about $40 more for the new one, on a $250 item.

Companies may sell off new items as refurbished when new models come out...they don't want to upset people who paid the full price.

It could have also been an open box return. Sometimes they go through the same process as a refurbished as they want to make sure everything is there.

Either way it's like gambling $200, when you know you will get a good one for $50 more. Not only that, but the new one came nicely packaged and it had many more attachments, very useful ones.
The bad news is I now have four large cartons to cut up and put in the recycled trash containers instead of just 2 cartons

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

Every time somebody crashes (or is crashed into usually) an Audi S4 on Facebook I'm like a vulture asking how many miles on the engine.

Amazingly social media exposes you to just how common car crashes are for your everyday driver.

Well with nearly 300,000,000 registered vehicles on the road then even with an extremely low chance of getting into an accident then you should see a lot each day.

bwia

I have not seen one up close and personal but why is the Kia 2022 K5 GT-Line so cheap? At under $30K, in a tight auto market, it seems like a steal or the ultimate auto bargain. Throw in an EV propulsion system and viola, you have a $50k car.

snakeweasel

jipster said:

Anybody ever go into a auto repair facility, for an oil change, and come out with a work order for over $2,000? Goodyear Auto Center says my Milan has a seized caliper on rear passenger side. So, that's 2 rebuilt calipers, 2 new rotors with pads and brake lines. Also, they wouldn't repair a slow leak on front tires. They said there wasn't enough tread on the edges. So gave me an estimate for 4 new tires. Even though back tires are good. A buddy and myself, mostly the buddy, are going to try to fix the brakes tomorrow. Hopefully just seized pins.

The car is originally from northern Indiana, so a bit of rust on underside. Buddy and I replaced rear pads and rotors, cleaned slide pins about 2 years ago. So guessing brake line fittings may be rusted and leaking fluid. Cross fingers the ole Jipster doesn't have to spend too much money on this.

One time I went to get my brakes done and they gave me a around a $2K work order for a lot of stuff that needed to be done. This was back in the mid 80's so $2K was some real moola then. Took the car (a 80 Mustang) to another mechanic and who told me all I needed were new pads and rotors, nothing else was wrong with the car. Guess who I kept going back to?

snakeweasel

explorerx4 said:

Probably the nicest day for the rest of the year.
Blew the leaves for the last time and mowed the lawn, trying use up the gas in the mower.
Cleaned and winterized the mower and brought the snowblower up from the shed.

Speaking of snow blowers for the first time in my life I have one. Me and my wife had a big discussion at the Home Depot about if we should spend the hundreds of $'s to get a snow blower or $15 to get a new snow shovel. In the end she won out and we bought the blower. You all know what that means, no snow this year.

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@bwia said:

Today Is Vasectomy day. Congratulations!

I’ve had two. The first one was a 50% success!

Does that mean when you didn’t need it, it worked fine?

jmonroe

I think it means they didn't have twins.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

I bought a "refurbished" Dyson vacuum on ebay last year. I think it was really a way they were disposing of unsold stock - the machine was still in all original wrapping and obviously untouched. It has had zero issues.

driver100 said:

My new rule is, don't by refurbished or rebuilt products.
Mrs D100 bought a $200 vacuum from Amazon - they don't call it refurbished anymore, it is "Renewed".
I just watched on Marketplace (Cdn consumer show) how Best Buy sells refurbished computers tablets etc and when the experts tested them they didn't perform as well as the new ones....some functions weren't even set up.
So the vacuum arrives, MrsD sets it up, and the motor hardly has any power.
We pack it up, and go to the computer to return it to Amazon.
A little resistance but when I said we were returning this one but would be buying a new one they said they would issue a full credit, which they did immediately. I am sure they check to see how much you buy, and how much you return before taking stuff back - check your past history.
They also said, don't bother sending this one back to them, give it to charity or toss it out. Well, we can save some of the parts.
Now I have to cut up the box it came in.
A few lessons, I'd steer away from "refurbished" etc., and I still like buying from Amazon.

We had a refurbished Dyson before this too, and it worked for a few years. Some items are refurbished by the company and those are probably up to standard. Now it seems companies don't want to bother, they'd rather get rid of the item and let someone else deal with it, and a lot of these guys aren't that good at fixing the problem it had. The cost of a refurbished isn't that different, in fact I think this one was about $40 more for the new one, on a $250 item.

Companies may sell off new items as refurbished when new models come out...they don't want to upset people who paid the full price.

It could have also been an open box return. Sometimes they go through the same process as a refurbished as they want to make sure everything is there.

Either way it's like gambling $200, when you know you will get a good one for $50 more. Not only that, but the new one came nicely packaged and it had many more attachments, very useful ones.
The bad news is I now have four large cartons to cut up and put in the recycled trash containers instead of just 2 cartons

Oh I do agree that getting refurbished is a bit of a gamble and I do avoid them. Also I like getting things in large cardboard boxes. I keep them and use them by laying them on the garage floor and putting the motorcycle on them when I clean and oil the chain. Keeps the garage floor nice and clean.

sda

snakeweasel said:

explorerx4 said:

Probably the nicest day for the rest of the year.
Blew the leaves for the last time and mowed the lawn, trying use up the gas in the mower.
Cleaned and winterized the mower and brought the snowblower up from the shed.

Speaking of snow blowers for the first time in my life I have one. Me and my wife had a big discussion at the Home Depot about if we should spend the hundreds of $'s to get a snow blower or $15 to get a new snow shovel. In the end she won out and we bought the blower. You all know what that means, no snow this year.

That might be a better investment than you think..no snow.