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tjc78

@Michaell said:
@explorerx4 - awesome! I sent my sister the link.

She wants to keep the car, not to put it up for sale

Well my comment was pretty useless then. That’s what happens when you don’t think about what you’re writing.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

@Michaell said:
@explorerx4 - awesome! I sent my sister the link.

She wants to keep the car, not to put it up for sale

Well my comment was pretty useless then. That’s what happens when you don’t think about what you’re writing.

I didn’t mean to bury the lede

qbrozen

@Michaell , I was thinking $4k before seeing the example for sale. Obviously, that seller would likely take close to $4k as well. So seems like a fair number for family.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

@Michaell , I was thinking $4k before seeing the example for sale. Obviously, that seller would likely take close to $4k as well. So seems like a fair number for family.

So, the main question is: How well do you like your sister?

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

@Michaell said:
@explorerx4 - awesome! I sent my sister the link.

She wants to keep the car, not to put it up for sale

Well my comment was pretty useless then. That’s what happens when you don’t think about what you’re writing.

If we all start thinking before writing this would become a pretty dull board.😀

Michaell

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

@Michaell , I was thinking $4k before seeing the example for sale. Obviously, that seller would likely take close to $4k as well. So seems like a fair number for family.

So, the main question is: How well do you like your sister?

I asked for $2500 for my share, and added a emoji to my text.

She knows I'm still looking for a job, so I doubt this will get acrimonious.

28firefighter

Posted over on CCBA. We drove our Tesla about 388 miles down to Bend OR. Unfortunately as everyone here suspected, we got 30 miles from home and suddenly we’re unable to go further because of charging infrastructure.

Kidding. We got 300 miles per charge and spent under $30 on supercharging. Our longest charge took 17 minutes. Zero wait for a stall. It was absolutely horrendous.

imidazol97

@driver 100
Is your FL home going to be hard hit by hurricane Idalia?

driver100

imidazol97 said:

@driver 100

Is your FL home going to be hard hit by hurricane Idalia?

Thanks for asking @imidazol97,
I think we should be OK. It looks like Indalia is heading into the Panhandle area. Areas near the coast around Tampa will probably get a pretty big surge.
We are about 15 miles inland, and by total accident we are about 35 feet above sea level, so as long as the structure holds up and the water on the grass doesn't puddle too high, we should be OK. Our nice neighbors are keeping a watch on our place.

driver100

28firefighter said:

Posted over on CCBA. We drove our Tesla about 388 miles down to Bend OR. Unfortunately as everyone here suspected, we got 30 miles from home and suddenly we’re unable to go further because of charging infrastructure.

Kidding. We got 300 miles per charge and spent under $30 on supercharging. Our longest charge took 17 minutes. Zero wait for a stall. It was absolutely horrendous.

Glad it worked out fine.
The story of my friend was too long so people missed it. Here's the short version.

Driving home from a long trip, it is almost midnight, he has 5% charge left.
Decides to turn off the radio and heat, and try to make it home, as it's a pain to get over to the charge station at the mall at midnight.
He loses his charge when he is a few blocks from home. Asks a home owner if he can plug into his electricity.
Doesn't work. You have to charge the engine and the instruments.....two batteries apparently.
Walks home, goes back the next day. Calls the garage.
They can't get it in neutral to load onto the truck....it needs a charge for the instruments to work.
Charge it up enough to get it into neutral and load it on the truck.
Since he tried to charge it when empty it blew a transformer or something....$2000 repair.
Not covered by warranty if the charge gets below 5%
I am just telling his story.....don't shoot the messenger. Reporting it as a learning experience.

pensfan83

In a recent Motor Trend article they deliberately ran their Rivian down to 0% as a real life use case to see what happens. By their own account the vehicle did everything it could to prevent a total and complete shutdown and only happened because they forced the truck to 0%. Similar difficulties and expenses in remediating the issue were encountered there too.

Sounds like it could be user error, poor planning, or a combination of both to me.

28firefighter

@pensfan83 said:
In a recent Motor Trend article they deliberately ran their Rivian down to 0% as a real life use case to see what happens. By their own account the vehicle did everything it could to prevent a total and complete shutdown and only happened because they forced the truck to 0%. Similar difficulties and expenses in remediating the issue were encountered there too.

Sounds like it could be user error, poor planning, or a combination of both to me.

Big +1

Sounds like someone who was used to the one to two gallons of cushion left when your ICE vehicle is on E. Doesn’t exist here but the car will be so obnoxious that to ignore the warnings would almost certainly be user error.

driver100

This guy is fairly easy going and he thought he could make it home and plug it in, when at 5%
Something else we talked about....his Tesla is supposed to be able to go 300 miles on a charge.
But, you should only fill it to 80% because overcharging can degrade the battery...that makes it realistically 240 miles.
Then you can't use the last 5% so that eliminates 15 miles. and brings it down to 225 miles.
And then there is the a/c, radio, wiper blades etc......the real range for a 300 mile charge is more like 200 miles.
He also said finding chargers is more difficult in large cities. They have more chargers but getting through the traffic can be time consuming and aggravating.
He also got off the highway to get a free charge only to find the free charge was in a parking garage that required $10 to get inside.

tjc78

@driver100
Do you leave your AC on at your FL residence all summer?

We leave our primary most of the summer and I run it at 79 while we are gone. Have smart thermostats to know all is ok.

abacomike

We’re experiencing severe thunderstorms and 30+ mph winds as outer bands from the hurricane, which is about 150 miles west of us, pass through. Luckily, we are being spared what northern Floridians will be experiencing.

roadburner

pensfan83 said:

In a recent Motor Trend article they deliberately ran their Rivian down to 0% as a real life use case to see what happens. By their own account the vehicle did everything it could to prevent a total and complete shutdown and only happened because they forced the truck to 0%. Similar difficulties and expenses in remediating the issue were encountered there too.

Sounds like it could be user error, poor planning, or a combination of both to me.

Call it "An idiot in the machine."

jmonroe1

@abacomike said:
We’re experiencing severe thunderstorms and 30+ mph winds as outer bands from the hurricane, which is about 150 miles west of us, pass through. Luckily, we are being spared what northern Floridians will be experiencing.

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It sounds like South Florida dodged a bullet this time. Stay safe Mike.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

@roadburner said:
Call it "An idiot in the machine."

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In addition to ignoring the warnings that the car was sending the driver, which makes this guy more than a little short of much intelligence, he’s also cheap. Choosing not to pay the parking lot fee of $10 to charge his battery, which would have gotten him home safely, he cost himself many times that amount. I’d say on a color coded intelligence chart this guy registers in the red area.

jmonroe

driver100

tjc78 said:

@driver100

Do you leave your AC on at your FL residence all summer?

We leave our primary most of the summer and I run it at 79 while we are gone. Have smart thermostats to know all is ok.

Yes, the thermostat is kept at 84. The place would get mold without a/c, some people do it but they pay for it eventually. We used to empty the fridge and turn it off, but we haven't done that for a decade, easier to keep it going. The electric bill is only about $30 to $40 in the summer. Our neighbor has a generator and they said they would run a line to our place if the electricity is off for any length of time.

tjc78

Thanks was curious… I leave ours on for the same reason.

qbrozen

@28firefighter said:
Posted over on CCBA. We drove our Tesla about 388 miles down to Bend OR. Unfortunately as everyone here suspected, we got 30 miles from home and suddenly we’re unable to go further because of charging infrastructure.

Kidding. We got 300 miles per charge and spent under $30 on supercharging. Our longest charge took 17 minutes. Zero wait for a stall. It was absolutely horrendous.

$30 on supercharging? Huh. So 736 miles… I’m going to just take a wild guess at some numbers. I’m thinking like $10 to fully charge at home. Were you nearing empty when you reached home? If so, that’s $10 at start of trip, $30 during, and $10 after. A Prius could have also done the trip for ~$50, and only stopped once for 5 mins for refueling. Of course, it is a Prius. Just making an observation, that’s all.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

@28firefighter said:

Posted over on CCBA. We drove our Tesla about 388 miles down to Bend OR. Unfortunately as everyone here suspected, we got 30 miles from home and suddenly we’re unable to go further because of charging infrastructure.

Kidding. We got 300 miles per charge and spent under $30 on supercharging. Our longest charge took 17 minutes. Zero wait for a stall. It was absolutely horrendous.

$30 on supercharging? Huh. So 736 miles… I’m going to just take a wild guess at some numbers. I’m thinking like $10 to fully charge at home. Were you nearing empty when you reached home? If so, that’s $10 at start of trip, $30 during, and $10 after. A Prius could have also done the trip for ~$50, and only stopped once for 5 mins for refueling. Of course, it is a Prius. Just making an observation, that’s all.

That's only $40... Measure from full to full, or empty to empty.

28firefighter

Sure. But then I’d be driving a Prius..

No doubt a vehicle could have done it as efficiently. I’m mostly observing that the act of supercharging is not as overpriced or inconvenient as some here would believe.

Also we’re still on the trip. I haven’t done the return ride yet which is different elevation changes.

qbrozen

@kyfdx said:
That's only $40... Measure from full to full, or empty to empty.

True

andres3

Since Mr. Ticket has been Mr. Too Close to Useless for some previous tickets/citations as my traffic lawyer, I've called up the "Guy." This new lawyer group calls themselves "My Traffic Guys"

They charge $1 more than Mr. Ticket; money well spent most likely. Of course, I'm giving them a tough case, against the CHP on an absolute law.

Even worse, I forgot to demand the County Seat which would have given us the assured upper hand.

sda

Not a result of Idalia, we have had bad weather and wind the past few days and it has taken a toll on some Bradford pear trees. We had to cut ours down about two years ago because they had blight.

explorerx4

Read the Ohio had 11 tornado's and 3 earthquakes over the weekend.
Not a fan of Bradford Pear trees.

oldfarmer50

sda said:

Not a result of Idalia, we have had bad weather and wind the past few days and it has taken a toll on some Bradford pear trees. We had to cut ours down about two years ago because they had blight.

Ah, the ubiquitous Bradford Pear. Pretty in the spring and fast growing which made them the landscaper’s delight but brittle and disease prone as they age.

sda

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Not a result of Idalia, we have had bad weather and wind the past few days and it has taken a toll on some Bradford pear trees. We had to cut ours down about two years ago because they had blight.

Ah, the ubiquitous Bradford Pear. Pretty in the spring and fast growing which made them the landscaper’s delight but brittle and disease prone as they age.

Amen, and a curse. The developer of our neighborhood blessed each yard with two trees in the front yard. Now that the neighborhood is 20 years old, the trees have met their life expectancy, most have blight and time to go at great expense.

explorerx4

If you don't get the roots, the BPs grow back.

jmonroe1

sda said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Not a result of Idalia, we have had bad weather and wind the past few days and it has taken a toll on some Bradford pear trees. We had to cut ours down about two years ago because they had blight.

Ah, the ubiquitous Bradford Pear. Pretty in the spring and fast growing which made them the landscaper’s delight but brittle and disease prone as they age.

Amen, and a curse. The developer of our neighborhood blessed each yard with two trees in the front yard. Now that the neighborhood is 20 years old, the trees have met their life expectancy, most have blight and time to go at great expense.

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It could be that the builders BIL was the landscaper and the BIL’s brother is a tree surgeon.

jmonroe

kyfdx

Very few are actually Bradford, any more. Plenty of other varieties like Aristocrat, etc. Everyone still calls them Bradfords, though.

Actually, it’s a non-native, invasive plant. And, I have a nearly 30 yr old example in my backyard. Living on borrowed time.

driver100

kyfdx said:

qbrozen said:

@28firefighter said:

Posted over on CCBA. We drove our Tesla about 388 miles down to Bend OR. Unfortunately as everyone here suspected, we got 30 miles from home and suddenly we’re unable to go further because of charging infrastructure.

Kidding. We got 300 miles per charge and spent under $30 on supercharging. Our longest charge took 17 minutes. Zero wait for a stall. It was absolutely horrendous.

$30 on supercharging? Huh. So 736 miles… I’m going to just take a wild guess at some numbers. I’m thinking like $10 to fully charge at home. Were you nearing empty when you reached home? If so, that’s $10 at start of trip, $30 during, and $10 after. A Prius could have also done the trip for ~$50, and only stopped once for 5 mins for refueling. Of course, it is a Prius. Just making an observation, that’s all.

@ kyfdx That's only $40... Measure from full to full, or empty to empty.

Unless it's my friends new Tesla........went to 0 juice, tried to charge it, and blew a generator or transformer....cost $2000 to fix.

roadburner

I don't care what you call them- they suck.

Sandman6472

Our city is very strict about landscaping, almost to the point of being a bit over the top. Each house must have three trees in the front yard, more if desired, but at least three. When a hurricane took one of ours out years back, got a letter from the city informing me I had a certain amount of time to replace the downed tree from a list of "approved" trees! The part about "approved" really gave me a laugh at first but really would rather be the one to pick whatever I wanted. Wife decided just best to pick one from the list so she & one of our girls had it done...all I had to do was write the check!
I get that the city has certain standards they want everyone to live by & our city does look very nice but they sometimes do go a little overboard. Next up is having our barrel tile roof cleaned before I get the dreaded letter from the city. We have to have this done like every four or five years and that time has come again. As I told the kids, home ownership isn't for the faint of heart as one is always shelling out money for this or that. But that's the price we all pay for owning our property and living in a nice area I guess. And besides having the threat of hurricanes every year and the brutal heat for too many months, it really is a nice place to live, so I pay the price to do this.

stickguy

Watching all the bad weather elsewhere in the country, being up here in moderate snow land is starting to look pretty good! 71 today, 77 tomorrow, sunny and not humid!

Sandman6472

Trust me Stick, that kind of weather is looking quite appealing right about now. By the end of August, many of us have had enough of the 90 degree weather & we still have another couple of months of it to go. Even October can be quite warm down here, and there's still another couple of months of hurricane season. Just wish I could move to a more temperate climate to be honest. But prefer to not be too far from the girls at this point as sometimes my health gets a bit challenging. Think I'd love moving to Chicago where our son & his wife live but think the winters would just be too cold. And not sure the finances would afford two places to live, I'm guessing.

Sandman6472

Took a "mental health" day on Tuesday so I'd have three days of quiet. Learned one thing, one important thing. As much as I do love my Enterprise gig, I'd be just as happy to stay home full time going forward! I've been doing things around the house that I've put off & I'm making some progress. Cleaned my office on Tuesday while the guy was working on the driveway. Yesterday, tackled the closet in my office & found a couple of things I've been looking for. Also started going through my sock/underwear drawers and sorting things out. Since I've been home today, threw another load of wash in as my hamper was pretty full. Tried on my stack of shorts & put aside the ones that no longer fit. Either they've shrunk or...I've gained a few extra pounds. I'm going with the former here, but think it's really the latter. But did learn one thing...I've just got too much clothing! Shorts, shirts & slacks...just too many. Filled up the donate bucket with shirts yesterday & now have about half a dozen shorts to add to the pile.
I actually waited till the house was empty to start doing this stuff as I need to do this myself, with no "help" from the others. Obviously I've got to donate more stuff & it's starting to get done. But it feels good to start this long overdue process, I just had to be ready to start doing it, at my own pace.

tjc78

@stickguy said:
Watching all the bad weather elsewhere in the country, being up here in moderate snow land is starting to look pretty good! 71 today, 77 tomorrow, sunny and not humid!

That is why I love Jersey. We really rarely ever get extremes. Living at the shore all summer I barely know what 90 is anymore.

stickguy

Same up here. Little snowier and cooler in winter, but not terrible. More moderate in summer, and fewer nor’easters.

laurasdada

Yup, I love New England weather. If you don't like it, wait a minute...

Michaell

laurasdada said:

Yup, I love New England weather. If you don't like it, wait a minute...

Nope, that's what we say here in Colorado.

I have personally witnessed a 40 degree drop in the ambient temperature in 30 minutes.

kyfdx

Michaell said:

laurasdada said:

Yup, I love New England weather. If you don't like it, wait a minute...

Nope, that's what we say here in Colorado.

I have personally witnessed a 40 degree drop in the ambient temperature in 30 minutes.

I'll clue you guys in... they say that everywhere...

Michaell

kyfdx said:

Michaell said:

laurasdada said:

Yup, I love New England weather. If you don't like it, wait a minute...

Nope, that's what we say here in Colorado.

I have personally witnessed a 40 degree drop in the ambient temperature in 30 minutes.

I'll clue you guys in... they say that everywhere...

Nah, we never said it in Southern California, because the weather was between 65 and 85 about 90% of the time.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Our city is very strict about landscaping, almost to the point of being a bit over the top. Each house must have three trees in the front yard, more if desired, but at least three. When a hurricane took one of ours out years back, got a letter from the city informing me I had a certain amount of time to replace the downed tree from a list of "approved" trees! The part about "approved" really gave me a laugh at first but really would rather be the one to pick whatever I wanted. Wife decided just best to pick one from the list so she & one of our girls had it done...all I had to do was write the check!
I get that the city has certain standards they want everyone to live by & our city does look very nice but they sometimes do go a little overboard. Next up is having our barrel tile roof cleaned before I get the dreaded letter from the city. We have to have this done like every four or five years and that time has come again. As I told the kids, home ownership isn't for the faint of heart as one is always shelling out money for this or that. But that's the price we all pay for owning our property and living in a nice area I guess. And besides having the threat of hurricanes every year and the brutal heat for too many months, it really is a nice place to live, so I pay the price to do this.

I think my town requires developers to put two trees per house but has no standards about caring for them or replacing them. Certainly my place wasn’t a development so they didn’t care. I planted a number of trees from my own “approved” list. Supposedly, you have to get permission to cut down existing trees but I never bothered with that either. I guess if you have enough acreage they leave you alone.

As to the roof, I don’t think they even care if you have one.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Watching all the bad weather elsewhere in the country, being up here in moderate snow land is starting to look pretty good! 71 today, 77 tomorrow, sunny and not humid!

Wait until Monday and you’ll think you’re in Sandy’s neighborhood.😅

stickguy

looking forward to it. tired of being cold! At least it will be warmer Sunday when we are going to my BILs house for a pool party.

Michaell

We get a newsletter from our HOA each month; recently, they announced that they would be reviewing all the houses in the development (around 1000, I think) to make sure each house has the requisite number of trees in the front yard.

When the houses were built, the developer put a tree in the front yard, another one on the small strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street, and a third in the river rock on the other side of the driveway from the front lawn.

When we moved in (2 years after they were built), the tree in the rocks was dead, so we had it pulled and replaced with 3 willow "trushes" (not tall like a tree, more like a big bush). The one in the front yard died shortly thereafter, and we put in a red Japanese Maple. The tree in the strip of grass is thriving, though I can't remember what type it is (its name is "Felicia", according to my daughter).

I'll get pictures of them in the morning.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

We get a newsletter from our HOA each month; recently, they announced that they would be reviewing all the houses in the development (around 1000, I think) to make sure each house has the requisite number of trees in the front yard.

When the houses were built, the developer put a tree in the front yard, another one on the small strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street, and a third in the river rock on the other side of the driveway from the front lawn.

When we moved in (2 years after they were built), the tree in the rocks was dead, so we had it pulled and replaced with 3 willow "trushes" (not tall like a tree, more like a big bush). The one in the front yard died shortly thereafter, and we put in a red Japanese Maple. The tree in the strip of grass is thriving, though I can't remember what type it is (its name is "Felicia", according to my daughter).

I'll get pictures of them in the morning.

I don’t think I could live where a HOA was meddling in my business.

imidazol97

I lived in an HOA near Cincy back in the late 70s for 2 years or so. I said
I'd never live in one again and I haven't. Most corrupt thing I'd seen, at least until recently.