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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388

    jmonroe said:
    According to the specs on the BMW 740i, the 0-60 time is 5.3 seconds.  That is by no means slouchy.  Can't wait to break the car in so I can try out the 0-60 capabilities
    All you have to do is to pull up to a light and have a dope that thinks he has a fast car pull up next to you in the fast lane...
    JM, there is no way I would push this huge car through its paces until I had at least 3000 miles on the odometer.  At that rate, this wouldn't happen until next summer with my average yearly driving miles on my cars being 7000-8000 miles.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989

    So this morning some part of my brain decides that this might be a good time to launder the Mini's remote key fob. I also dried it thoroughly on "high".

    Needless to say the little guy didn't like that very much. So I took it part, blew it out with a compressed air can, and found *most* of the little buttons except the lock button. So I cut off a piece of pencil eraser, stuck it in there and ran a small piece of tape over it.

    Remarkably, the fob works perfectly, and actually a little better :p

    I hate to think what Mini might have charged me for a new one.

    I hate to admit this and maybe I even told this tale before:

    I bought my '09 Genny in March of '09 and when I went on vacation in the Summer of '09, like a dope, I went into the ocean with the FOB in my bathing suit pocket. I was only in the water about 5 minutes before I realized my blunder. I raced out of the ocean to the pool deck, opened the FOB and then used the fresh water from a spigot that I saw to flush away the salt water. I then let it cook (opened up) in the Sun for about and hour.

    That did it. I never had a problem with that FOB and it still worked when I traded it for the '15 Genny in June of '15.

    I attribute this fix to my speed getting out of the ocean and to the spigot. I guess I still had some of that back then. I still remember Mrs. j saying she never saw me move so fast.

    It's true...when there is a need there is a way.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,205


    Same to you LD. Liking your brand, Jaguar, more and more. I just need a good dealer.

    Fisherman's Wharf area gets a wee bit chilly this time of year. But, that drive down to Carmel is beautiful. Love going to Sonoma too, favorite U.S. Winery there, San Supre (why am I all of a sudden so focused on spirits?).

    Was in Los Gatos a month or so ago. If I had unlimited Silicon Valley tech start up funds, that's where I'd live.


    Yes, a bit chilly in SF a couple of weeks ago. But, as Mark Twain said (paraphrase, probably), "The coldest winter I ever spent was summer in San Francisco!" I'm still not a city guy, but I did note that many of the row houses had garages. Still like living in New England.

    Other than my first "free" one year service, I've not been back to the dealer (So, I guess I bought the exception to the rule, a reliable Jag!). A shame in that they upgraded the showroom, including many free treats for the customer! Interesting suburban block, next to the Jag/LR dealer is the Bentley/Lamborghini/RR/Maserati dealer with BMW a couple of hundred yards down the road.

    Ladyfriend wants a new car, usual suspects: 3/A/C. I've also pointed out the XE and TLX, now on her radar. But, I think she's predisposed to want a 3.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    LD...show the lady a sticker on a well equipped 3, then look at the same on a C, then an A.

    Unless my pricing radar has gone askew, I'm thinking the price in the 3 might shock her. Get her behind the wheel of an XE 3.0T. See how she likes one of those.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,205
    She told me she had $40k to spend, I let her down easy: 320xi, base stripper A, probably forget the C.... She wants AWD, she wants to start skiing again. So, we'll likely look at CPO 328xi. The XE 2.0t is only RWD, she'd need winter tires, not on her desirable list. We'll see, TLX might be a winner for her, too.

    My XF is turning 3 at the end of the year. Still a handsome,comfortable, playful and reliable devil! Where to go next, though? If I was an SUV kind of a guy, easy, F-Pace! Rumor of an XE coupe, where would I put my skis in an AWD F-Type? But, reality looms large, 4.5 years of tuition to go (not to mention child support. Ugh.)

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    suydam said:

    stickguy said:

    new thing with Fobs (I think from Volvo?) is to eliminate the fob, and let your smart phone take over. so basically an app becomes your key fob. If nothing else, not more fobs to lose!

    As long as you don't forget your phone!
    One time with my Caddy, I started the car with my phone, walked out of the gym with my phone in my bag, popped the trunk with the fob, put my bag in the trunk, concurrently dropping the fob accidentally on the floor of the trunk, then closed it. Yup, all locked up and running and both sources for opening the car were in the trunk.

    Cars have been around for quite some time now that prevent you from locking the car with a fob in the cockpit, you'd think they could do that with the trunk, too.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464

    She told me she had $40k to spend, I let her down easy: 320xi, base stripper A, probably forget the C.... She wants AWD, she wants to start skiing again. So, we'll likely look at CPO 328xi. The XE 2.0t is only RWD, she'd need winter tires, not on her desirable list. We'll see, TLX might be a winner for her, too.

    Look at the A3 too. Get a lot more car for the money than in an A4. with discounts, 40K will get a nicely loaded one. Not that much smaller than a 3 series.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330

    She told me she had $40k to spend, I let her down easy: 320xi, base stripper A, probably forget the C.... She wants AWD, she wants to start skiing again. So, we'll likely look at CPO 328xi. The XE 2.0t is only RWD, she'd need winter tires, not on her desirable list. We'll see, TLX might be a winner for her, too.

    My XF is turning 3 at the end of the year. Still a handsome,comfortable, playful and reliable devil! Where to go next, though? If I was an SUV kind of a guy, easy, F-Pace! Rumor of an XE coupe, where would I put my skis in an AWD F-Type? But, reality looms large, 4.5 years of tuition to go (not to mention child support. Ugh.)

    Hi LD, nice to see you again.

    Does the lady friend need a back seat very much? If not, maybe have her look at a Caddy ATS. I love mine, and it is AWD, with the 2.0T engine it is quick too. I suspect the deals may be very good right now.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,078
    qbrozen said:

    suydam said:

    stickguy said:

    new thing with Fobs (I think from Volvo?) is to eliminate the fob, and let your smart phone take over. so basically an app becomes your key fob. If nothing else, not more fobs to lose!

    As long as you don't forget your phone!
    One time with my Caddy, I started the car with my phone, walked out of the gym with my phone in my bag, popped the trunk with the fob, put my bag in the trunk, concurrently dropping the fob accidentally on the floor of the trunk, then closed it. Yup, all locked up and running and both sources for opening the car were in the trunk.

    Cars have been around for quite some time now that prevent you from locking the car with a fob in the cockpit, you'd think they could do that with the trunk, too.
    My '13 Accord had that feature. How do I know? I also threw a bag in the trunk forgetting my key was in it. The trunk wouldn't close!! I couldn't figure out what was wrong for awhile, then remembered the key fob in the bag.
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Michaell said:

    Again, thanks for the feedback. I'm taking it all in.

    This is as much a career advancement opportunity for me as it is helping out my boss by getting some of his responsibilities of his plate. He already has a senior management team of about 5 people (myself included).

    I had a preliminary conversation about this about 6 weeks ago, but the talk yesterday was a more formal presentation of the opportunity.

    I, too, am surprised I've been considered for this after so short a time with them.

    I will absolutely find out if the management duties are in addition to my current role - I suspect that it is.

    @Michaell, You got some pretty good advice from the guys in here and all I can add is, "listen to your gut too". The gut is usually ahead of the brain because of the emotions that the brain tries to figure out. Somehow, the gut is ahead of that.

    Good luck.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,772
    You'd think they would want that 'trunk won't lock with fob in trunk' just in case the owner still had it in their pocket. Especially those Goodfellas Caddies. :)
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351

    OldFarmer....glad you're getting out while the getting is good. Micro-managers, fear mongers, etc have no place in any corporate structure. Either be professional about your work, or save everyone else the pettiness, and let people do the jobs they were hired to do.

    I've quit jobs over working for fear mongers and micro-managers. That was early in my career, though...when I was fairly certain I could find something as good or better right around the corner. It just wasn't worth the misery I went through, and in turn, put others around me through.

    Those types of people usually flit from position to position because someone in the chain of command eventually gets tired of putting up with their s@#$!

    All the really bad managers I have known eventually got fired. Some lasted too long, but eventually they got the ax. The wheels of justice....

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351

    I suppose we'll all have chips embedded in our skulls soon enough.

    You don't have one yet? Probably why you washed your key fob !

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    abacomike said:



    jmonroe said:

    abacomike said:

    According to the specs on the BMW 740i, the 0-60 time is 5.3 seconds.  That is by no means slouchy.  Can't wait to break the car in so I can try out the 0-60 capabilities

    All you have to do is to pull up to a light and have a dope that thinks he has a fast car pull up next to you in the fast lane...

    JM, there is no way I would push this huge car through its paces until I had at least 3000 miles on the odometer.  At that rate, this wouldn't happen until next summer with my average yearly driving miles on my cars being 7000-8000 miles.

    The manual probably states you can go gangbusters at 500, 750, or 1,000 miles.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,938
    stickguy said:

    She told me she had $40k to spend, I let her down easy: 320xi, base stripper A, probably forget the C.... She wants AWD, she wants to start skiing again. So, we'll likely look at CPO 328xi. The XE 2.0t is only RWD, she'd need winter tires, not on her desirable list. We'll see, TLX might be a winner for her, too.

    Look at the A3 too. Get a lot more car for the money than in an A4. with discounts, 40K will get a nicely loaded one. Not that much smaller than a 3 series.

    You mean more gadgets for your money. I'll take an A4 over the A3 all day long all other things being equal. The A3 is smaller and lighter though.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    abacomike said:



    jmonroe said:

    abacomike said:

    According to the specs on the BMW 740i, the 0-60 time is 5.3 seconds.  That is by no means slouchy.  Can't wait to break the car in so I can try out the 0-60 capabilities

    All you have to do is to pull up to a light and have a dope that thinks he has a fast car pull up next to you in the fast lane...

    JM, there is no way I would push this huge car through its paces until I had at least 3000 miles on the odometer.  At that rate, this wouldn't happen until next summer with my average yearly driving miles on my cars being 7000-8000 miles.

    And you'll probably be feeling a LOT chipper by the time Summer rolls around too.

    All I can say is, "don't disappoint us".

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited December 2016
    qbrozen said:

    suydam said:

    stickguy said:

    new thing with Fobs (I think from Volvo?) is to eliminate the fob, and let your smart phone take over. so basically an app becomes your key fob. If nothing else, not more fobs to lose!

    As long as you don't forget your phone!
    One time with my Caddy, I started the car with my phone, walked out of the gym with my phone in my bag, popped the trunk with the fob, put my bag in the trunk, concurrently dropping the fob accidentally on the floor of the trunk, then closed it. Yup, all locked up and running and both sources for opening the car were in the trunk.

    Cars have been around for quite some time now that prevent you from locking the car with a fob in the cockpit, you'd think they could do that with the trunk, too.
    My 2010 LS will start squaking and won't let the trunk close if the fob is in the trunk. You all know how I know.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,367
    edited December 2016

    She told me she had $40k to spend, I let her down easy: 320xi, base stripper A, probably forget the C.... She wants AWD, she wants to start skiing again. So, we'll likely look at CPO 328xi. The XE 2.0t is only RWD, she'd need winter tires, not on her desirable list. We'll see, TLX might be a winner for her, too.

    My XF is turning 3 at the end of the year. Still a handsome,comfortable, playful and reliable devil! Where to go next, though? If I was an SUV kind of a guy, easy, F-Pace! Rumor of an XE coupe, where would I put my skis in an AWD F-Type? But, reality looms large, 4.5 years of tuition to go (not to mention child support. Ugh.)

    What about a CPO 2 Series? A loaded CPO 2 Series xDrive shouldn't run much over 37k.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    driver100 said:

    qbrozen said:

    So, there was a recall on the CTS....something about the wiring harness on some cars being too close to another component and that might cause the wires to "chafe". That meant there would be a possibility that the insulation on the wires would get worn away from the "chafing".

    Although I noticed no ill effects, mine indeed had the insulation wearing away, pretty dramatically in the ~18 mos I've had it.

    As they always do, they put me in a loaner, this time an XT5. I know these SUVs aren't quite my cup of tea, but I see an awful lot of them on the roads, some someone likes them.

    Not a bad ride at all. It doesn't handle like the CTS, but it's not a numb floating SUV that I've ridden/driven in the past.

    It's a '17 and they've made another leap in performance with CUE (even faster than in the CTS, which in '16 got a major performance bump. Steering wheel is nice and fat, just like I like them. The "beer tap" electronic shifter is an answer to a question that was never asked. Not sure how they work in BMWs, but in the XT5, you pull it rearward for Driver (not real intuitive as I would expect pulling rearward means reverse). Pushing forward and to the left is for Reverse (why two steps?). But, hitting the P for park is a one button operation.

    Not sure how many engineering man hours Cadillac spent on the shifter, but they solved nothing and made things more complex. On the flip side, shifts are quick and smooth. It's quick to shift down for more "playful" driving.

    I like staying in "Sport" mode, but the car defaults to "Touring" upon every restart.

    In "touring", steering is a bit too light for my tastes, and there seems to be a fair amount of understeer. "Sport" mode tightens everything up and the ride firms up also. The ride is never harsh, however. And, it's clear Caddy did a lot of work on the suspension tuning, as it's impressive the way it straddles ride vs handling. I couldn't upset the suspension driving some pretty significant broken pavement yesterday.

    That said, it's relatively quick. It handles confidently. At least the one I'm driving has all the safety and convenience options you could want. I tried the "auto park" feature last night. Pretty nifty.

    Really comfortable seats with high quality leather. Aluminum and a (real) light wood interior with dash stitching throughout.

    I think I've mentioned before, I won't buy another car without Android Auto or Apple Car Play. The XT5 has both. Again voice recognition from Apple is worlds better than in any other car I've ever tried.

    Caddy has done a really nice job

    Not sure what these sell for, but I would consider it if I were looking for a lux SUV from the Germans or the likes of Lexus/Infiniti/Acura.

    How is the seat? The only thing that stopped me from buying the SRX was the seat. They tried to pull off the BMW sport seat thigh extension, but unsuccessfully
    Q....I liked the seats, a lot. They remind me of the seats in my Acura TLs, and I liked those a lot, too. XT5 seats probably aren't bolstered as much as the TLs. But, they were certainly quite comfy and allowed for spirited driving while holding you in the seat. Not sure if there's a thigh extension as I only did some quick trips in it. But, will test them out more as the Caddy dealer said the part is on backorder for my CTS, and they don't want me to drive it with the prospect of the wiring being exposed.

    Prognosis is the XT5 will be staying with me through Christmas, maybe until the New Year.

    Need to get all of my hauling duties done while I have it.

    PS....it only had 10 miles on it when they put me in it. So, it's brand new.

    Are cars like that the "demos" they sell one or two years later?
    I think they are. Our C250 started out as a service vehicle, then was leased for 2 years. After 3 years it had 12800 miles on it and seems like a new car.

    About work...I am surprised so many people aren't happy at their jobs. I loved one job out of about 8 that I had. I loved the one job most of the time, except when I had an idiot manager. That seems to be one of the big things about working......it depends a lot on the person you report to, and usually, they should never be in the position they are in.
    You are right about who you work for. That has a LOT, if not everything to do, with how you go about doing your everyday work. I was very lucky and can honestly say I only had one a-hole as a boss (lasted about 6 months. Gee I wonder why?) in the almost 45 years I worked at my company both as an employee and as a consultant. I was offered a GREAT "package" when I was 55, due to cut backs, so I took it. I didn't have to take it because my job was not in jeopardy, at the time, but it was too good to pass up because it was not going to be offered again, if my job was to be in jeopardy later. I ain't a total dope.

    Then the fun started.

    I was asked to come back as a consultant immediately after I retired. Then a few times after that. Life was much better as a consultant than as a regular grunt employee both as a floor grunt and a manager grunt. For whatever reason, companies seen to respect you more after you are off the payroll permanently. Then when I thought I was finally DONE in 2006 I got another call in mid 2007 to come back and I refused. I told my old boss I was really DONE. Got another call about 3 weeks later and the pot was sweetened even more but I refused again. I wasn't holding out for more money because I was DONE, or so I thought.

    Then my old boss pulled a dirty trick on me and had one of my best friends call to talk me into coming back again and I told him the same thing, "I was enjoying myself so why should I came back"? His answer was to keep him alive so that he could retire in about 5 years. Now that is DIRTY pool. I still refused and was sure that did it. Wrong again jmonroe. My old boss called back and upped the ante again. Now I had to get some specifics about what was expected and how long the invite would last. I was getting Social Security so a 3 or 4 month assignment was out of the question. My old boss said there was no specific time period and was almost afraid to tell me how long but I had to know. He said fearfully, "let's just say indefinite". OK, to me that meant about a year, two at the most. Wrong again, again jmonroe, it lasted almost 8 years before I had to get off the company candy while the getting was still good. As I told my fellow employees a few times, as this marathon was going on, "the last thing I wanted was for one of them, or the guard, to find me slumped over my keyboard one night". I had to finally remind myself, 'who in their right mind still works when they are a little over 70, even when they are having fun'.

    Being this is the Christmas season, if it was in my power, I would grant that you working stiffs in here have as much fun doing your jobs as I had doing mine. Just don't do it as long as I did.

    But, do what I did, buy yourself a new car as a retirement gift to yourself because your wife probably won't do that.

    Merry Christmas.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    jmonroe said:

    abacomike said:



    jmonroe said:

    abacomike said:

    According to the specs on the BMW 740i, the 0-60 time is 5.3 seconds.  That is by no means slouchy.  Can't wait to break the car in so I can try out the 0-60 capabilities

    All you have to do is to pull up to a light and have a dope that thinks he has a fast car pull up next to you in the fast lane...

    JM, there is no way I would push this huge car through its paces until I had at least 3000 miles on the odometer.  At that rate, this wouldn't happen until next summer with my average yearly driving miles on my cars being 7000-8000 miles.
    And you'll probably be feeling a LOT chipper by the time Summer rolls around too.

    All I can say is, "don't disappoint us".

    jmonroe

    I definitely get your message, JM. I do hope I am still around to push this car to its limits. Saw the doctor this morning - he looked at me and said that most people who have what I had don't survive the surgery. He further stated that I looked better than most people who aren't sick at all. I then said, "...but doc, I still have sharp, shooting pains in my right abdomen...! He responded, "...just thank God you can "feel anything"!" Interesting comments from my doc of 18 years. Now he tells me, after all that I went through.

    I'm still kicking, JM! B)

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Karen_CM said:

    Just stopping in to wish everyone a joyous holiday and hopes that the New Year brings you a bounty of happiness, health, and prosperity. Thanks to all of you for your continued support and participation!

    Good to hear from you Karen. Wishing the best to you and yours, too.
    +1

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2016
    My mom worked until she was 74 and didn't really want to stop then. That trait was a generation skipping thing for her kids, lol.

    About fobs, there's a sticker stuck on the rental I'm driving this week to the effect that the average key fob costs $200. Naturally Enterprise has both fobs attached to the same key ring, making it easy to lose both of them at one go (quickly remedied and fobs divvied up).

    For dunked fobs (or cameras, phones, etc.), shake out as much water out as you can, even dismantling the gizmo as much as possible, especially any accessible batteries, and then stick it in a Zip-Lock full of rice for a few days.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    JMonroe...I loved working and having my own company.

    I had a chance to give it up and I did it, mainly because my wife wanted to enjoy some retirement time.

    I was sorry for a little while, but now I realize it was the best thing that could have happened.

    Now I play tennis or pickleball most days, read the paper, meet friends, go on day trips, see movies...it is like camp for adults. I have no idea how I used to find time to actually do work. And best of all, when it is over I can say I had a great time and did things I wanted to do....I won't say I devoted my life to a company.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,528
    All this Jaguar talk. A friend of my best friend recently had to close his high end art framing business. The guy is an automotive encyclopedia & a serious car enthusiast. He's got a gorgeous, modified, C6 Corvette. He landed himself a job selling at the Jaguar/LR dealer in Larchmont.

    There's an incident where a very high end RR (president's edition?) fell off a lift and landed on its side. The dealership's insurance company wants to fix it. The people don't want it back. They are insisting on a new one.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    nyccarguy said:

    All this Jaguar talk. A friend of my best friend recently had to close his high end art framing business. The guy is an automotive encyclopedia & a serious car enthusiast. He's got a gorgeous, modified, C6 Corvette. He landed himself a job selling at the Jaguar/LR dealer in Larchmont.

    There's an incident where a very high end RR (president's edition?) fell off a lift and landed on its side. The dealership's insurance company wants to fix it. The people don't want it back. They are insisting on a new one.

    That must have been rather a dramatic day in the service department.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    nyccarguy said:

    All this Jaguar talk. A friend of my best friend recently had to close his high end art framing business. The guy is an automotive encyclopedia & a serious car enthusiast. He's got a gorgeous, modified, C6 Corvette. He landed himself a job selling at the Jaguar/LR dealer in Larchmont.

    There's an incident where a very high end RR (president's edition?) fell off a lift and landed on its side. The dealership's insurance company wants to fix it. The people don't want it back. They are insisting on a new one.

    I don't blame the owners, I'd be furious.

    I guess it doesn't matter how much you pay for a car. A dope for grease monkey will get you every time.

    That owner might as well have bought a low end Chevy.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,464
    I wouldn't want it back either, but I don't think you really have a choice if the dealer refuses.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,684
    stickguy said:

    I wouldn't want it back either, but I don't think you really have a choice if the dealer refuses.

    I would think someone who wants to spend money on an RR would have brains enough not to accept the dealership's repairing it and also could afford a really good set of attorneys to litigate. As I understand, it's the dealership's responsibility: if their insurance company doesn't want to fully make the damaged parties whole, the dealership can pony up the extra to replace the vehicle. The car owners don't have to accept or be limited by what the insurance company wants to do.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited December 2016
    How about this scenario. The dealer sides with his customer and puts pressure on his ins.company to total the car, citing loss of value and any other things he can think of. Dealer acquires the salvage, fixes it up, sells it, or has a nice personal car to drive. Or, Mr. Rich guy uses his pull and gets his insurance to handle the claim, total the car, then his ins. company goes after the dealer.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @nyccarguy:

    As regards this fiasco of a Rolls Royce falling off a lift at a dealership's service department, there are many variables that need to be investigated:

    *What is the replacement value of the Rolls and the wholesale value?

    *Can the Rolls be repaired and put into a condition that Rolls Royce would approve and sign off on?

    *The dealership is obviously at fault and also negligent by improperly securing the vehicle on the lift.  There may even be compensatory damages awarded if a lawsuit should ensue.  I wonder if there is fine print on the service repair order requiring arbitration and hold harmless clauses agreed to by the owner's signature on the work order.

    *I, personally would not accept the car back unless Rolls Royce signs off on it that it was put into a almost new car condition.  

    *Is the Rolls still under warranty?  If so, that has a bearing on whether Rolls Royce will honor the warranty due to the damage incurred on this vehicle.

    *How long would it take to repair?  The dealer may have to provide a Rolls Royce to the customer while the car is being repaired?  Are parts and original paint available?

    *What has to be replaced and repaired?

    There is a myriad of other variables - but if the car is less than 5-7 years old, it should be replaced.  If older, then an acceptable, professional repair and refinish should be undertaken.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,528
    It is a Range Rover, not a Rolls Royce. The SUV is a 2015 or 2016.

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    But those with key blanks still need to be cut.

    A couple of years back, I found a guy on Ebay who would not only sell me a Cadillac key (programmable) but also cut the key for me after I sent him a picture of the existing key. Worked like a charm.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    stickguy said:

    Michael, nice feather in your cap at least being considered so soon. And your comment reminds me how stale I've gotten. I really need to get off my duff and look for a new job, before it's too late!

    In about 6 months you can have my job. You even get to toot the horn. :D
    He can have my job right now.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    Had my "talk" with my boss today.

    Was able to artfully address the issue of compensation - the new duties are in addition to everything I'm doing now, so I pointed out that I'm now doing the work of 1.x people, and should be compensated accordingly.

    Since the person I talked with is not my actual manager, I had to share with him my current salary. He understood my point and would look into some sort of raise, and that we'll talk after the holidays.

    Excited about the opportunity and the chance to contribute more to the success of my group, and my company.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    stickguy said:

    Michael, nice feather in your cap at least being considered so soon. And your comment reminds me how stale I've gotten. I really need to get off my duff and look for a new job, before it's too late!

    In about 6 months you can have my job. You even get to toot the horn. :D
    He can have my job right now.
    But do you have a horn he can toot?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Michaell said:

    Had my "talk" with my boss today.

    Was able to artfully address the issue of compensation - the new duties are in addition to everything I'm doing now, so I pointed out that I'm now doing the work of 1.x people, and should be compensated accordingly.

    Since the person I talked with is not my actual manager, I had to share with him my current salary. He understood my point and would look into some sort of raise, and that we'll talk after the holidays.

    Excited about the opportunity and the chance to contribute more to the success of my group, and my company.

    You approached the pay raise issue very skillfully since it must have seemed logical to the person you were talking to. Good thing it was mentioned because it sounds like they were trying to get away without an increase.

    It is exciting and challenging and is a remarkable accomplishment to be asked to fill this position at this time!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    nyccarguy said:

    It is a Range Rover, not a Rolls Royce. The SUV is a 2015 or 2016.

    If it was a Rolls Royce it should be replaced, if it is a Range Rover it should be fixed. :p

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    nyccarguy said:

    All this Jaguar talk. A friend of my best friend recently had to close his high end art framing business. The guy is an automotive encyclopedia & a serious car enthusiast. He's got a gorgeous, modified, C6 Corvette. He landed himself a job selling at the Jaguar/LR dealer in Larchmont.

    There's an incident where a very high end RR (president's edition?) fell off a lift and landed on its side. The dealership's insurance company wants to fix it. The people don't want it back. They are insisting on a new one.

    I don't know if the RR falling off a lift is any different than a big waste removal truck hitting your car in the rear end. Both are negligent actions....we have insurance to cover the damage (which isn't always fair because a repaired car isn't worth as much as a car that was never damaged). I think, unfortunately, the insurance company will have the car repaired unless the damage is substantial and the cost of repair exceeds the value of the car.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    Michael, nice feather in your cap at least being considered so soon. And your comment reminds me how stale I've gotten. I really need to get off my duff and look for a new job, before it's too late!

    In about 6 months you can have my job. You even get to toot the horn. :D
    He can have my job right now.
    But do you have a horn he can toot?
    I'll throw in this;


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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited December 2016
    nyccarguy said:
    It is a Range Rover, not a Rolls Royce. The SUV is a 2015 or 2016.
    I guess my long absence from the forums has affected my eyes and what they read - or it could be my brain from all the anesthesia.  But many of the variables still are appropriate to a Range Rover - ya think?  :o

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    abacomike said:


    nyccarguy said:

    It is a Range Rover, not a Rolls Royce. The SUV is a 2015 or 2016.

    I guess my long absence from the forums has affected my eyes and what they read - or it could be my brain from all the anesthesia.  But many of the variables still are appropriate to a Range Rover - ya think?  :o

    Excellent point. The (relatively) new car fell off the lift, and was the fault of the dealership. I'd be hard pressed to accept anything other than a new car in return, regardless of brand. The only difference on this particular one, it's tied to a vehicle that happens to cost as much as a small house.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,330
    I think most car people would equate use of the "RR" acronym with that of Rolls Royce.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,528
    edited December 2016
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    edited December 2016

    The only difference on this particular one, it's tied to a vehicle that happens to cost as much as a small house.

    Or a double-wide if you live in NJ

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    ab348 said:
    I think most car people would equate use of the "RR" acronym with that of Rolls Royce.
    Then my eyes and brain saw what others saw - I'm OK!  What a relief!  :D

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,250
    qbrozen said:

    The only difference on this particular one, it's tied to a vehicle that happens to cost as much as a small house.

    Or a double-wide if you live in NJ
    Or a dirt lot in the Bay Area.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @nyccarguy:

    That "RR" is a mess.  No, it cannot be repaired and repainted adequately to meet most standards.  The front end must be replaced; the engine must have sustained damage; steering and suspension will never be the same!

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Doesn't look so bad to me, but what do I know. Be interesting to hear what the adjuster says.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,684
    That'll buff right out.

    The car only shows impact damage above the left front wheel. Even the headlight is not cracked or forced out of position on the usually fragile brackets that hold it in place. The left front wheel looks straight and true, so I suspect all the force went into the top fender and the edge of the hood when that part hit something as it twisted sideways. The doors and rear panels along with the upper glass panels don't show any damage.

    Couple days in the body shop will have it back to it's original quality.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,749
    dropping a car off a lift baffles me. I can't understand how that happens.

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