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jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Are you trying to make my point? I said I wanted to survive long enough to see the rear plate as the car drove off. If I'm knocked unconscious at any time during the body strike, I don't know that I survived.

jmonroe

driver100

fintail said:

According to this, OH is #4 - of course, one can debate the methodology. No doubt the state highways in southern states are speed trap bonanzas, every little podunk intersection masquerading as a town will have enforcement at times.

imidazol97 said:

I don't agree that Ohio has reputation for small town speedtraps if you mean more so than many Southern towns and even sheriff and highway patrols. I recall my first drives into the South for vacations I noti raised the limit on most interstates rural to 70 cars and 70 trucks. Not good.

Thanks for including the list fin. I thought Florida would be number 48 because people speed all the time and it seems there is never a cop around to stop them. I thought Tennessee would be number one.........police cars lined up on the median about a mile apart for 20 miles catching snowbirds on I-75....but, I guess that is just in season.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

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Mr_Shiftright said:

fintail said:

I like the out of state ticket revenue theory about front plates, at least in places like the south where speed traps are a real revenue stream.

Front plates have been mandatory in WA since the dawn of time, but I see endless high end vehicles on the eastside suburbs of Seattle without them. Exotics and especially Teslas seem to be the most frequent sightings - I suspect as some element of the enforcement of such laws is based on the wealth of the offender, if you can lay down the money for a Model X (which I seldom see with a front plate), you are immune. In the 21st century socio-economic reality, this makes sense.

In Berkeley, they will ticket you even when you are parked without a front plate. Ask me how I know

I vowed after that to never spend another dime in Berkeley, and so far, three years later, I've made good on that.

That's how I drove KMart into bankruptcy.

Ah, the sheer **POWER** of boycott. I fully expect Berkeley to fall into financial chaos and social disorder shortly, thanks to me. They can send me that $36 bucks and make this right, or they can suffer the consequences.

sda

I'm surprised Virginia wasn't listed any higher. It seems when ever I drive in that state there are speed traps everywhere.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

fintail said:

According to this, OH is #4 - of course, one can debate the methodology. No doubt the state highways in southern states are speed trap bonanzas, every little podunk intersection masquerading as a town will have enforcement at times.

imidazol97 said:

I don't agree that Ohio has reputation for small town speedtraps if you mean more so than many Southern towns and even sheriff and highway patrols. I recall my first drives into the South for vacations I noti raised the limit on most interstates rural to 70 cars and 70 trucks. Not good.

Thanks for including the list fin. I thought Florida would be number 48 because people speed all the time and it seems there is never a cop around to stop them. I thought Tennessee would be number one.........police cars lined up on the median about a mile apart for 20 miles catching snowbirds on I-75....but, I guess that is just in season.

When you plug your trip into WAZE in California, it literally lights up with police warnings. And they are usually accurate, too. TGFW.

jmonroe

PF_Flyer said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Front plates for more info on any possible identification for sure, which brings to mind one of my bugaboos. There are so may different PA plates now (as in other states as well) that knowing what state a vehicle is from at a glance is almost impossible. Might be boring, but the state plate being the state plate seems to make sense to me.

"I didn't catch the number, but it was definitely a PA plate..."

Yeah, I know what you mean. I can almost hear the conversation with the trooper by the guy that was hit:

"I'm pretty sure it was a PA plate. It was one of those non-standard plates but I'm not sure which one like; Don't use drugs, animal lover, military hero, the guy attended some university (not sure if he graduated), antique car or maybe it was a classic car or maybe it was a vintage car. I guess this isn't helping you too much but I'm going to sue him when you find him. Look what he did to my head".

jmonroe

abacomike

driver100 said:

Thanks for including the list fin. I thought Florida would be number 48 because people speed all the time and it seems there is never a cop around to stop them. I thought Tennessee would be number one.........police cars lined up on the median about a mile apart for 20 miles catching snowbirds on I-75....but, I guess that is just in season.

Coming up here to Boca Raton about an hour ago, there was a speed trap on the Turnpike just below the overpass to the Sawgrass Expressway.  I counted 10 State Trooper Dodge Chargers - each had a car or SUV stopped giving out tickets.  That is a well known speed trap which I have mentioned before.  In a couple of hours, they can hand out overt 100 $250-350 fines. All in a day's work for the State Troopers! 

graphicguy

OH plates...it's been so long since I've used a front plate it was probably sometime in the '90s. Last time I was pulled over was 2004, when I first ought my RX8. I was speeding. Didn't try to talk my way out of it. The cop who pulled me over just wanted to see the car (which at the time was pretty radical looking). I apologized for speeding and for not having a front plate

He gave me a warning about speeding (not even written, it was verbal). But, said he didn't blame me for the front plate as it would mess up the looks of the car.

Speed traps....I can only comment on soutwest OH, as that's where I live. On I75 going through town, construction has been pretty much constant for the last decade. So, hard to speed. Even if you did, there's no place on either side of the interstate to pull you over....at least not safely.

I275 and I71 are two different animals, though. Plenty of places to get on the big pedal. Moreover, not a lot of places for the cops to hide. If you've driven around Cincinnati often enough, you know where they hide.

Using WAZE on your smart phone pretty much tells you when and where the cops are, too.

Getting rich on speeding tix around here is a tough row to hoe.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

I caught a mistake in the novel I am reading. It is a first time book called The Professor. The Law Professor is helping a young lady student carry her books across the parking lot to help he load them into her car....which the author says is a white Mustang hatchback. She puts her purse down, and he takes out her key, and opens the back door and puts the books into the car.

What is wrong with this scene?

A Mustang doesn't have a back door!

Maybe he meant the trunk.

isellhondas

Mr_Shiftright said:

fintail said:

I like the out of state ticket revenue theory about front plates, at least in places like the south where speed traps are a real revenue stream.

Front plates have been mandatory in WA since the dawn of time, but I see endless high end vehicles on the eastside suburbs of Seattle without them. Exotics and especially Teslas seem to be the most frequent sightings - I suspect as some element of the enforcement of such laws is based on the wealth of the offender, if you can lay down the money for a Model X (which I seldom see with a front plate), you are immune. In the 21st century socio-economic reality, this makes sense.

In Berkeley, they will ticket you even when you are parked without a front plate. Ask me how I know

I vowed after that to never spend another dime in Berkeley, and so far, three years later, I've made good on that.

Berkeley is HORRIBLE and they constantly harassed my tool guy! If the meter expired ten seconds before they knew up and they would ride up on their little scooters. Usually they gave us a break even when double parking on Van Ness in The City. The City was absolutely the WORST but the cops were much nicer and looked the other way most of the time.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

Sorry, I mistakenly gave you an lol for that when I meant quote...at least it wasn't a flag

If you go back and click again on the LOL, it will remove it. Please don't click on the abuse flag! LOL

abacomike

oldfarmer50 said:

I caught a mistake in the novel I am reading. It is a first time book called The Professor. The Law Professor is helping a young lady student carry her books across the parking lot to help he load them into her car....which the author says is a white Mustang hatchback. She puts her purse down, and he takes out her key, and opens the back door and puts the books into the car. What is wrong with this scene? A Mustang doesn't have a back door!

Maybe he meant the trunk.

Ditto!

PF_Flyer

There is no flag on the play. Please reset the play clock to 8:00

imidazol97

@abacomike
Maybe this is why the Geek Squad is so friendly and helpful--they're hoping to score a $500 paycheck if they find something porno on your computer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/10163236419/fbi-is-apparently-paying-geek-squad-members-to-dig-around-computers-evidence-criminal-activity.shtml
"Not necessarily a problem, considering companies performing computer/electronic device repair are legally required to report discovered child porn to law enforcement. The difference here is the paycheck. This Geek Squad member had been paid $500 for digging around in customers' computers and reporting his findings to the FBI. That changes the motivation from legal obligation to a chance to earn extra cash by digging around in files not essential to the repair work at hand."

The GeekMan says:
"So while we're here, sir, I'll just do a search for .jpg and .mp4 files on your computer while I'm working on it and maybe I can find something to earn me that bonus from the FBI."

abacomike

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike
Maybe this is why the Geek Squad is so friendly and helpful--they're hoping to score a $500 paycheck if they find something porno on your computer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/10163236419/fbi-is-apparently-paying-geek-squad-members-to-dig-around-computers-evidence-criminal-activity.shtml
"Not necessarily a problem, considering companies performing computer/electronic device repair are legally required to report discovered child porn to law enforcement. The difference here is the paycheck. This Geek Squad member had been paid $500 for digging around in customers' computers and reporting his findings to the FBI. That changes the motivation from legal obligation to a chance to earn extra cash by digging around in files not essential to the repair work at hand."

The GeekMan says:
"So while we're here, sir, I'll just do a search for .jpg and .mp4 files on your computer while I'm working on it and maybe I can find something to earn me that bonus from the FBI."

That's just what I need - an arm of the Feds searching my stashes!

Actually, I wouldn't even require a subpoena from them - they are welcome to my computer and files at any time but they have to promise they will share whatever they find.

abacomike

Had a new graphic image pop up on my instrument cluster this morning while driving through a "PrePaid" toll booth. A chime sounded and a graphic of a person popped up. I looked it up and it said that it was the Pedestrian Warning Device on my BMW 740i. I guess the Bimmer thought there was a toll collector sticking his/her hand out for my 52 cent toll. Whatever the reason it popped up, something new and exciting happens in that car every single day. One sure couldn't get bored with this car, that's for sure!

henryn

The fact that the incriminating file was found in "unallocated space" is very informative. The Geek Squad member did not, could not, have found the file by accident, he was LOOKING deliberately in hopes of finding something incriminating.

suydam

Solution: don't stash child porn on your computer.

PF_Flyer

Cadillac Introduces New 'Book' Subscription Car Service

Interesting concept. Has sort of an Uber feel to me, but to ask a Seinfeld-coffee-shop type of question...Is this a way to charge for extended test drives?

Mr_Shiftright

Doesn't say much about how it works. Do you switch frequently, or ....???

If I were that rich and lived in NYC, I wouldn't even own a jacket...I'd just jump into my car and have my driver leave me in front of wherever I'm going and then wait for me to come out. I could wear a t-shirt and shorts the entire year.

henryn

suydam said:

Solution: don't stash child porn on your computer.

That's easy to say, and you do NOT want to hear what I would do to a child pornographer.

The problem is, the FBI is diligently looking for other things, many of which are not nearly as egregious. And once you open that door (allowing the FBI to pay computer technicians to spy on you), sooner or later they will be looking for something that you don't want them looking for.

jpp75

PF_Flyer said:

Cadillac Introduces New 'Book' Subscription Car Service

Interesting concept. Has sort of an Uber feel to me, but to ask a Seinfeld-coffee-shop type of question...Is this a way to charge for extended test drives?

There are plenty of other services that offer a car exchange program similar to this. Pay us a monthly fee, we cover everything and swap cars within our fleet anytime you want.

The programs I've looked at have lower rates and allow you to swap among brands. It doesn't appear that's the case with Cadillac's program.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

I caught a mistake in the novel I am reading. It is a first time book called The Professor. The Law Professor is helping a young lady student carry her books across the parking lot to help he load them into her car....which the author says is a white Mustang hatchback. She puts her purse down, and he takes out her key, and opens the back door and puts the books into the car.

What is wrong with this scene?

A Mustang doesn't have a back door!

Maybe he meant the trunk.

I think he meant he opened the one and only door, but put the books on the back floor. But, I suppose some people might think of the hatch as the back door....but, the author is a big Alabama football fan, but, I don't think he is a car guy.

Interesting book - a legal thriller - for a 1st time author, The Professor by Robert Bailey. It has to do with a car accident and a trucking company covering up how many hours their drivers are driving - car related!

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Are you trying to make my point? I said I wanted to survive long enough to see the rear plate as the car drove off. If I'm knocked unconscious at any time during the body strike, I don't know that I survived.

jmonroe

Lots of people are knocked unconscious but still survive. In this case you you would see the front plate, get knocked out, the car driver drives off, and they get the plate number by hypnotizing you. Simple !

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

Sorry, I mistakenly gave you an lol for that when I meant quote...at least it wasn't a flag

If you go back and click again on the LOL, it will remove it. Please don't click on the abuse flag! LOL

Thanks, maybe I can remove all JMonroes LOLs

driver100

abacomike said:

Had a new graphic image pop up on my instrument cluster this morning while driving through a "PrePaid" toll booth. A chime sounded and a graphic of a person popped up. I looked it up and it said that it was the Pedestrian Warning Device on my BMW 740i. I guess the Bimmer thought there was a toll collector sticking his/her hand out for my 52 cent toll. Whatever the reason it popped up, something new and exciting happens in that car every single day. One sure couldn't get bored with this car, that's for sure!

I am enjoying the simplicity of the C250. Not even a back up camera, I have to use my good old driving ability. No sudden messages, no lights coming on, no extra buzzers, just pure driving fun...and the little turbo 4 can really move if need be.

driver100

henryn said:

suydam said:

Solution: don't stash child porn on your computer.

That's easy to say, and you do NOT want to hear what I would do to a child pornographer.

The problem is, the FBI is diligently looking for other things, many of which are not nearly as egregious. And once you open that door (allowing the FBI to pay computer technicians to spy on you), sooner or later they will be looking for something that you don't want them looking for.

I know civil rights are very important, but if they can catch a child pornographer isn't it worth them checking if they suspect?

explorerx4

@driver100,
The more you lower the bar, the happier you're going to be.

jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Are you trying to make my point? I said I wanted to survive long enough to see the rear plate as the car drove off. If I'm knocked unconscious at any time during the body strike, I don't know that I survived.

jmonroe

Lots of people are knocked unconscious but still survive. In this case you you would see the front plate, get knocked out, the car driver drives off, and they get the plate number by hypnotizing you. Simple !

Only for you.

jmonroe

fintail

Not saying that child exploitation isn't a horrible thing and needs to be fought with every penny possible, but I would also worry about the GS worker planting data on a machine to collect the money. I wouldn't trust the person who actually sends a computer to GS to be able to defend themselves, nor the justice system to be able to find truth.

henryn said:

That's easy to say, and you do NOT want to hear what I would do to a child pornographer.

The problem is, the FBI is diligently looking for other things, many of which are not nearly as egregious. And once you open that door (allowing the FBI to pay computer technicians to spy on you), sooner or later they will be looking for something that you don't want them looking for.

tjc78

If you are viewing/distributing that kind of stuff, you would not only be a sick F*** but also a total and complete moron to give your computer to anyone.

The twisted individuals who do this type of thing go to many lengths to make sure their "browsing" is well hidden from others.

driver100

abacomike said:

Had a new graphic image pop up on my instrument cluster this morning while driving through a "PrePaid" toll booth. A chime sounded and a graphic of a person popped up. I looked it up and it said that it was the Pedestrian Warning Device on my BMW 740i. I guess the Bimmer thought there was a toll collector sticking his/her hand out for my 52 cent toll. Whatever the reason it popped up, something new and exciting happens in that car every single day. One sure couldn't get bored with this car, that's for sure!

I hope your 740 doesn't think someone is going to walk in front of it and it comes to a screeching stop....on the highway!

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike
Maybe this is why the Geek Squad is so friendly and helpful--they're hoping to score a $500 paycheck if they find something porno on your computer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/10163236419/fbi-is-apparently-paying-geek-squad-members-to-dig-around-computers-evidence-criminal-activity.shtml
"Not necessarily a problem, considering companies performing computer/electronic device repair are legally required to report discovered child porn to law enforcement. The difference here is the paycheck. This Geek Squad member had been paid $500 for digging around in customers' computers and reporting his findings to the FBI. That changes the motivation from legal obligation to a chance to earn extra cash by digging around in files not essential to the repair work at hand."

The GeekMan says:
"So while we're here, sir, I'll just do a search for .jpg and .mp4 files on your computer while I'm working on it and maybe I can find something to earn me that bonus from the FBI."

The problem comes in when a hacker has invaded your computer and turns it into a "zombie" wherein said hacker can store child porn on your computer without your knowledge. When the malware starts glitching your operating system you take it to the geek squad and they discover the files loaded by a remote operator.

You do 20 in a federal pen while a monster goes free to abuse kids. Unless you have hundreds of thousands to hire experts to go through your hard drive line by line you could have your life ruined.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Are you trying to make my point? I said I wanted to survive long enough to see the rear plate as the car drove off. If I'm knocked unconscious at any time during the body strike, I don't know that I survived.

jmonroe

Lots of people are knocked unconscious but still survive. In this case you you would see the front plate, get knocked out, the car driver drives off, and they get the plate number by hypnotizing you. Simple !

Frequently, being knocked unconscious causes memory loss of events preceding the accident. You might see both plates and lose the memory. Getting knocked unconscious results in at least some brain damage. It's not like the 'Rockford Files' where you get knocked out and wake up ready to go again.

abacomike

driver100 said:

Had a new graphic image pop up on my instrument cluster this morning while driving through a "PrePaid" toll booth. A chime sounded and a graphic of a person popped up. I looked it up and it said that it was the Pedestrian Warning Device on my BMW 740i. I guess the Bimmer thought there was a toll collector sticking his/her hand out for my 52 cent toll. Whatever the reason it popped up, something new and exciting happens in that car every single day. One sure couldn't get bored with this car, that's for sure!

I hope your 740 doesn't think someone is going to walk in front of it and it comes to a screeching stop....on the highway!

Actually, it will stop itself if a pedestrian crosses the street in front of the car.  Also when backing up it will stop itself if a pedestrian is picked up by the sensors.

It also steers itself - amazing technology!

suydam

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike
Maybe this is why the Geek Squad is so friendly and helpful--they're hoping to score a $500 paycheck if they find something porno on your computer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/10163236419/fbi-is-apparently-paying-geek-squad-members-to-dig-around-computers-evidence-criminal-activity.shtml
"Not necessarily a problem, considering companies performing computer/electronic device repair are legally required to report discovered child porn to law enforcement. The difference here is the paycheck. This Geek Squad member had been paid $500 for digging around in customers' computers and reporting his findings to the FBI. That changes the motivation from legal obligation to a chance to earn extra cash by digging around in files not essential to the repair work at hand."

The GeekMan says:
"So while we're here, sir, I'll just do a search for .jpg and .mp4 files on your computer while I'm working on it and maybe I can find something to earn me that bonus from the FBI."

The problem comes in when a hacker has invaded your computer and turns it into a "zombie" wherein said hacker can store child porn on your computer without your knowledge. When the malware starts glitching your operating system you take it to the geek squad and they discover the files loaded by a remote operator.

You do 20 in a federal pen while a monster goes free to abuse kids. Unless you have hundreds of thousands to hire experts to go through your hard drive line by line you could have your life ruined.

That seems just a tad paranoid. The Geek Squad guys who have come to my house to help with my TV interface and internet have been really nice.

berri

Looking at pictures from the Detroit auto show. A few personal thoughts. The 2018 Camry roofline looks like it took its cue from Mercedes. The 2018 GMC Terrain is just even more bizarre in the back quarter than a Murano. The 2018 Odyssey, well it no longer looks like the back end was tacked on from a different vehicle. Instead the middle looks like it melted.

graphicguy

If a pornographer is so stupid to leave porn on their computers, they should be locked up because they're stupid, too.

For different reasons (mainly because I have tax records stored on my computers), I wipe the HD/SSDs. Sometimes, if I have an external drive, I drill holes in the players so they're irretrievable.

roadburner

tjc78 said:

If you are viewing/distributing that kind of stuff, you would not only be a sick F*** but also a total and complete moron to give your computer to anyone.

The twisted individuals who do this type of thing go to many lengths to make sure their "browsing" is well hidden from others.

Back in the late '80s we had an idiot teacher at a local school who was talking teenage girls into posing nude for him(no, they weren't too sharp either). Anyway, a detective from the Sheriff's Office begins to investigate the guy and goes to his house to ask permission to search it; the teacher refuses. At that point the detective didn't have enough evidence to obtain a search warrant. Two days later the detective finally gets a warrant and searches the teacher's residence. He finds hundreds of nude photos of students going back several years and involving a couple of other schools. If the guy had destroyed the pictures the detective would never have been able to make the case.

murphydog

stickguy said:

I get stuck behind people on on ramps all the time that don't break 10 secs 0-60. Heck, might not break 15.

Of course, the cars can do well better. Just the drivers can't, or won't.

stickguy said:

I get stuck behind people on on ramps all the time that don't break 10 secs 0-60. Heck, might not break 15.

Of course, the cars can do well better. Just the drivers can't, or won't.

I can't stand that. Typical on ramp speed here in the Seattle area is about 40 mph, especially when the freeway is moving along at 60ish mph... can't stand being behind them

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

imidazol97 said:

@abacomike
Maybe this is why the Geek Squad is so friendly and helpful--they're hoping to score a $500 paycheck if they find something porno on your computer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170106/10163236419/fbi-is-apparently-paying-geek-squad-members-to-dig-around-computers-evidence-criminal-activity.shtml
"Not necessarily a problem, considering companies performing computer/electronic device repair are legally required to report discovered child porn to law enforcement. The difference here is the paycheck. This Geek Squad member had been paid $500 for digging around in customers' computers and reporting his findings to the FBI. That changes the motivation from legal obligation to a chance to earn extra cash by digging around in files not essential to the repair work at hand."

The GeekMan says:
"So while we're here, sir, I'll just do a search for .jpg and .mp4 files on your computer while I'm working on it and maybe I can find something to earn me that bonus from the FBI."

The problem comes in when a hacker has invaded your computer and turns it into a "zombie" wherein said hacker can store child porn on your computer without your knowledge. When the malware starts glitching your operating system you take it to the geek squad and they discover the files loaded by a remote operator.

You do 20 in a federal pen while a monster goes free to abuse kids. Unless you have hundreds of thousands to hire experts to go through your hard drive line by line you could have your life ruined.

I haven't heard of that happening.....someone storing their pornography on someone else's computer. It seems to be like most thieves, they store the stuff believing they aren't going to get caught.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

I don't get why they allow NO front plates on cars.

If someone is going to run me over I at least want to get a chance of trying to see his plate.

All kinds of opinions here but I really don't understand wanting to see who is running you over via a front plate. I'd rather get the plate number via the rear plate, at least that proves that I survived the hit a little longer.

FWIW, PA only has a rear plate which figures...we don't have a lot to offer around here.

jmonroe

But what if you see the front plate, and then are knocked unconscious when the bumper hits your head?

Are you trying to make my point? I said I wanted to survive long enough to see the rear plate as the car drove off. If I'm knocked unconscious at any time during the body strike, I don't know that I survived.

jmonroe

Lots of people are knocked unconscious but still survive. In this case you you would see the front plate, get knocked out, the car driver drives off, and they get the plate number by hypnotizing you. Simple !

Frequently, being knocked unconscious causes memory loss of events preceding the accident. You might see both plates and lose the memory. Getting knocked unconscious results in at least some brain damage. It's not like the 'Rockford Files' where you get knocked out and wake up ready to go again.

Could be a mild concussion.....see the car coming, glimpse the front plate, get hit, mild concussion, don't see the rear plate, but either recall or hypnotized to remember the front plate.

Sometimes people do illegal things and a witness or cop only get a front view of the car. A front plate doesn't have to be ugly......usually they are built into the bumper.

One of the ugly front license plate holders was on the Edsel...it seems someone forgot to incorporate it into the horse collar grill;

tjc78

The license plate location is the least of that car's problems.

driver100

berri said:

Looking at pictures from the Detroit auto show. A few personal thoughts. The 2018 Camry roofline looks like it took its cue from Mercedes. The 2018 GMC Terrain is just even more bizarre in the back quarter than a Murano. The 2018 Odyssey, well it no longer looks like the back end was tacked on from a different vehicle. Instead the middle looks like it melted.

Melted in the middle...perfect description;


That's the best design they could come up with?

driver100

Agree too, the Terrain roofline looks like a copy of the Nissan SUV. Front looks like they got a bargain deal from Alcoa

dino001

Did you guys hear the FBI arrested and charged former VW's chief of compliance? The charge is conspiracy to commit fraud against the USA. I like it. Hope the guy will talk and more heads will roll. BTW, VW's CEO cancelled his appearance in Detroit. Geee, wonder why.

VW already showed middle finger to EU officials on consumer compensation and prosecutions. US law has much better teeth, as an emission defeat device is expressly illegal under criminal penalty of law and seems the FBI is making good on it. I applaud that. I may like VW vehicles (as an idea), but anybody who will think to go to such extent to defraud the public should now know they can be reached. Whether the standards are reasonable, or not (I think they are not), it's a completely different discussion. But I like the American way - once you have a law, you observe it - no buts or ifs. The law proves unreasonable - change it.

Europeans were ratcheting up their emission standards every ten years, but it proved to be purely theoretical and ineffective. The officials chose to look the other way on the enforcement (mostly due political pressures from the industry and its influence on economy and jobs) and probably would have continued if not for the Americans. Smog in their largest cities is as big, if not bigger than it was 10-15 years ago, even though they only allow latest emission standard vehicles in downtown areas. Now we know why. I'm absolutely convinced that everybody is cheating out there in their small (i.e. cheap) vehicle market (all mfrs. have diesel models Jetta's size or even smaller), perhaps also in bigger ones, too, but only VW dared to bring that "cheater tech" here. So let them have it.

imidazol97

Hacking into computers has been occuring for quite a while. The people doing it know how to leave no traces and know how to leave fake traces--fake news, e.g.. The importance of this to me is the computers in my car and how susceptible they are to intrusion. We all noticed the examples of Jeeps, IIRC, being taken over by a computer elsewhere.

Home computers are easy to hack and servers that aren't properly secured such as person or for a political business that's a party are easy to hack. The computer in our topic had the porn in a section of the computer which 99% of folks could not access because that section on the hard drive was not assigned to one of the drive letters, C:, D;, used by the operating system. Only someone with software tools that can look at the entire drive could do that and the Geek Squad guy had come prepared to snoop. Odd he would think to do that.

Sharyl Attkisson's computer was hacked including her work computer at CBS because they were checking to see what he sources were for news stories she was investigating.

One of my laptops came from friends in SC because she fell for the fake phone call from Microsoft and allowed Microsoft techs to access her computer remotely and who knows what they planted on the computer. They wanted money to repair it. Nothing was wrong. She was advised to not let the computer connect to the internet so the perps couldn't access anything or load anything more onto the computer than they already had. She bought a new laptop and I inherited the old one, which I checked and restored to factory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharyl_Attkisson

I regularly clean my computer because I get so much junk now that many pages don't allow blockers such as adblock plus. If you don't unblock their site, they won't let you browse pages on theirs. Who knows what malware they load onto my computer(s) in the background.

abacomike

dino001 said:

BTW, did you guys hear the FBI arrested and charged former VW's chief of compliance? The charge is conspiracy to commit fraud against the USA. I like it. Hope the guy will talk and more heads will roll. BTW, VW's CEO cancelled his appearance in Detroit. Geee, wonder why.

Yep - read it in today's paper.  Here in So. FL, we are always one day late with news - sometimes months!  Wasn't the Titanic sinking awful - another current event!!!

graphicguy

Had a friend text me a couple of years ago to tell me she had Microsoft fixing her computer. Huh? Microsoft is at your home fixing your computer?

She said no.....she got a call stating her computer had issues and "Microsoft" was going to fix it over the phone.

I told her immediately, shut down your computer. It was hardwired to her modem, so I told her to disconntect it.

She said it wouldn't be fixed if she did. "It's a scam". She couldn't grasp she was so gullible and did not do any of what I told her. Result? CCs, bank accounts, personal info...all of it was absconded. The charges on her CCs started in less than an hour of the incident.

To this day, she swears it was a coincidence because she wouldn't be so stupid to let someone steal her info.

Her CCs were protected by the banks. It took a year to fix the rest of it.

The vast majority of people are smarter than that, though. Then you have criminals who try these scams, and gullible people who will fall for it. Same goes for those who prey on the innocent.

fintail

The baddies being smart enough to hide their vile material makes the GS stuff even more questionable. Are the sickos that dumb? As so few get caught, I hate to say, they aren't.

Re: VW - didn't Harley cheat just like VW? They were able to pay a fine and move on, because Murka. Laws definitely aren't applied consistently in this burgeoning oligocracy. I think in the VW case, some egoistic regulator types were personally insulted by VW being able to fool the tests. Hell hath no fury like an untouchable Fed scorned.

Smog in some Euro cities is due to commercial vehicles, which just like in the US, are held to a lesser standard in order to be "business friendly" (kind of a branch of trickle down BS that has failed in every application). Temperature inversions also play a role. You'll get smog in Paris or Athens as long as people live there - population density overrides all self-loathing greenie ideals.