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ab348

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

As you just said, "Everything is a conspiracy theory lately".

I posted this a while ago but here is the info:

http://gm.oemdtc.com/6969/33530-service-update-engine-ground-cable-in-contact-with-half-shaft-2016-cadillac-ats-cts

abacomike

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

As you just said, "Everything is a conspiracy theory lately".

I posted this a while ago but here is the info:

http://gm.oemdtc.com/6969/33530-service-update-engine-ground-cable-in-contact-with-half-shaft-2016-cadillac-ats-cts

What I am still baffled about is the fact that I have no idea why GG's CTS is still sitting at the dealership's service department. I know he picked up his CTS from the dealership after they "supposedly" completed the recall servicing for the harness and that they had to remove the engine in order to properly repair the vehicle. But then he picked it up after it was finished and had serious problems with the car and had to return it to the dealership where it still sits. I just have absolutely no idea whey the car is still there - what was wrong with it? Did they ever find the problems?

Very frustrating to GG, but I am a bit frustrated over the details of this now.

carnaught

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

Michaell

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

jmonroe

driver100 said:

Yeh isell....we don't really care if you are isell1, 4 or 348.

Change to isoldhondas and make your password 1234.

Don't give up without trying...no one is sabotaging you, there are more important issues going on.

Such as?

I'm gettin good at short posts, huh?

jmonroe

driver100

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

As you just said, "Everything is a conspiracy theory lately".

I posted this a while ago but here is the info:

http://gm.oemdtc.com/6969/33530-service-update-engine-ground-cable-in-contact-with-half-shaft-2016-cadillac-ats-cts

lol....thanks....I think I recall reading it.

Is GGs an AWD model....they didn't seem to recall RWD models? Also, this looked a little odd;

This bulletin will expire at the end of the involved vehicle’s New Vehicle Limited Warranty period.

You mean, if it catches on fire after the warranty is up you are on your own?

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Yeh isell....we don't really care if you are isell1, 4 or 348.

Change to isoldhondas and make your password 1234.

Don't give up without trying...no one is sabotaging you, there are more important issues going on.

Such as?

I'm gettin good at short posts, huh?

jmonroe

YES!

driver100

abacomike said:

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

As you just said, "Everything is a conspiracy theory lately".

I posted this a while ago but here is the info:

http://gm.oemdtc.com/6969/33530-service-update-engine-ground-cable-in-contact-with-half-shaft-2016-cadillac-ats-cts

What I am still baffled about is the fact that I have no idea why GG's CTS is still sitting at the dealership's service department. I know he picked up his CTS from the dealership after they "supposedly" completed the recall servicing for the harness and that they had to remove the engine in order to properly repair the vehicle. But then he picked it up after it was finished and had serious problems with the car and had to return it to the dealership where it still sits. I just have absolutely no idea whey the car is still there - what was wrong with it? Did they ever find the problems?

Very frustrating to GG, but I am a bit frustrated over the details of this now.

Mike, if I remember correctly, GG went to pick up his car which was supposed to be "repaired". When he took it out it made strange noises and I believe it was hesitating. They seem to think the mechanic did a poor job of fixing, and checking it out....as in maybe doing a test drive. So, the car went back to the shop but no one knows why it was acting up when the harness was supposedly fixed.

That is to the best of my recollection and bad memory.

driver100

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

abacomike

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that. If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up; CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

As you just said, "Everything is a conspiracy theory lately". I posted this a while ago but here is the info: http://gm.oemdtc.com/6969/33530-service-update-engine-ground-cable-in-contact-with-half-shaft-2016-cadillac-ats-cts

What I am still baffled about is the fact that I have no idea why GG's CTS is still sitting at the dealership's service department. I know he picked up his CTS from the dealership after they "supposedly" completed the recall servicing for the harness and that they had to remove the engine in order to properly repair the vehicle. But then he picked it up after it was finished and had serious problems with the car and had to return it to the dealership where it still sits. I just have absolutely no idea whey the car is still there - what was wrong with it? Did they ever find the problems? Very frustrating to GG, but I am a bit frustrated over the details of this now.

Mike, if I remember correctly, GG went to pick up his car which was supposed to be "repaired". When he took it out it made strange noises and I believe it was hesitating. They seem to think the mechanic did a poor job of fixing, and checking it out....as in maybe doing a test drive. So, the car went back to the shop but no one knows why it was acting up when the harness was supposedly fixed. That is to the best of my recollection and bad memory.

Thanks!

jmonroe

abacomike said:

isellhondas4 said:

Good bye.

Once again, and for the last time, Edmunds has seen fit to forget who I am. My auto fill that has worked for nearly 20 years no longer works and when I click on "Forgot Password" it remembers me as isellhondas4.

I suspect that I have angered one of the Moderators and this is their way of discouraging me from being a member. No problem. I understand.

I will miss this forum where I feel many of you have become "friends" over they years.

I do appreciate the banter over the years and I feel that I have learned much from many of you.

A special appreciation to Mr. Shiftright who has been here from the beginning and is a major asset to the Edmunds organization.

With many regrets..I am gone.

Craig

Craig, you know it has nothing to do with the moderators.  It's their website managers and technical subcontractors.  Just let Shifty know and I am sure they will have it fixed.  No need to get frazzled - it is not personal. 

I'm not so sure about that.

I think this isellhondas 4 character is trying to horn in on the real @isellhondas and the Mods are wise to him and are making it difficult for him to post.

For all we know this new guy could be some snot nosed kid trying to get the real @isellhondas benefits.

jmonroe

jmonroe

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

abacomike said:

isellhondas4 said:

Good bye.

Once again, and for the last time, Edmunds has seen fit to forget who I am. My auto fill that has worked for nearly 20 years no longer works and when I click on "Forgot Password" it remembers me as isellhondas4.

I suspect that I have angered one of the Moderators and this is their way of discouraging me from being a member. No problem. I understand.

I will miss this forum where I feel many of you have become "friends" over they years.

I do appreciate the banter over the years and I feel that I have learned much from many of you.

A special appreciation to Mr. Shiftright who has been here from the beginning and is a major asset to the Edmunds organization.

With many regrets..I am gone.

Craig

Craig, you know it has nothing to do with the moderators.  It's their website managers and technical subcontractors.  Just let Shifty know and I am sure they will have it fixed.  No need to get frazzled - it is not personal. 

I was just about to ask where you have been!

I monitor the forum but sometimes, I have nothing to say or contribute.

Never stopped you before.

Damn, this is fun. I just short posted again.

jmonroe

jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Yeh isell....we don't really care if you are isell1, 4 or 348.

Change to isoldhondas and make your password 1234.

Don't give up without trying...no one is sabotaging you, there are more important issues going on.

Such as?

I'm gettin good at short posts, huh?

jmonroe

YES!

Not a sufficient answer.

With all the grief I got for lengthy posts, I should have been told why.

I deserved a lot better than being blown off like that. :@

jmonroe

andres3

I posted a link to a Forbes article on their picks for the 13 cars to avoid in 2016/17 in the chronic car buyer's forum. Probably would have been more appropriate here, so I'll copy it here:

http://www2.forbes.com/business/13-new-cars-to-avoid-for-2016/

WARNING - some of you may be offended by their choices and selections.

jmonroe

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

ab348

The straight dope is hard to come by sometimes. It's almost as bad as that FAKE NEWS Forbes article.

Mr_Shiftright

A moderator would never do that to you. If there was some issue, you'd be contacted personally. I agree, I think it's some protocol glitch somewhere in the link from us to you.

jmonroe

You know, I think I'm a victim of my retired from profession. Kinda is the reason somewhat for my lengthy posts.

This story probably explains it. It's about a kid in the 5th grade that wanted some help with his homework so he went to his mother. Maybe you have heard it before, if so, scroll:

Kid: Hey Mom, can you help me with my homework?

Mom: Sure sweety what subject?

Kid: Math.

Mom: I can probably help you but since your father is an engineer, don't you think he could help you better than me?

Kid (pleadingly): Ah, c'mon Mom, this will only take a couple minutes.

Mom: OK sweety go ahead.

Kid: This farmer has an old pickup truck that can only go about 35 MPH. How long will it take...

Mom cuts the kid short.

Mom: WHOA, WHOA, that's a word problem. You gotta go to your father for help with that.

The kid leaves out a deep sigh.

Kid: Mom, I didn't want to learn all that much about the problem. I just wanted to get it done so that I could go watch TV.

I told you, it ain't all my fault. I'm a victim of my past profession. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

jmonroe

suydam

ab348 said:

The straight dope is hard to come by sometimes. It's almost as bad as that FAKE NEWS Forbes article.

I know you're only joking but could you please knock off the fake news riffs? You live in Canada. You're not in a country where our president just barred legitimate news outlets from a press conference. It's a pretty serious situation.

fintail

Don't worry, it'll come to Canadia when O'Leary wins the next election. They just lag a cycle. Harper = Bush. Trudeau = Obama. Oleary = you know.

Besides, "fake news" and "alternative facts" have become punchlines.

jmonroe

fintail said:

Don't worry, it'll come to Canadia when O'Leary wins the next election. They just lag a cycle. Harper = Bush. Trudeau = Obama. Oleary = you know.

Besides, "fake news" and "alternative facts" have become punchlines.

There is nothing FAKE about the stock market.

Although it can't continue at this pace I am, however, getting a kick out of listening to all the folks that will be sleeping under their beds for a few years.

Don't worry, maybe people will vote 2 times in the next election.

This is too political so I'm done before I have an @isellhondas problem.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Yeh isell....we don't really care if you are isell1, 4 or 348.

Change to isoldhondas and make your password 1234.

Don't give up without trying...no one is sabotaging you, there are more important issues going on.

Such as?

I'm gettin good at short posts, huh?

jmonroe

YES!

Not a sufficient answer.

With all the grief I got for lengthy posts, I should have been told why.

I deserved a lot better than being blown off like that. :@

jmonroe

I am trying to practice what I preach.....

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

I am proud of you....brief, concise, informative!

jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

I am proud of you....brief, concise, informative!

You got that right !!

That post was deserving of an A ++.

jmonroe

driver100

fintail said:

Don't worry, it'll come to Canadia when O'Leary wins the next election. They just lag a cycle. Harper = Bush. Trudeau = Obama. Oleary = you know.

lol...you could be on to something there!

graphicguy

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

Y'all are correct. Dealer said car is fixed, bring back the loaner. This, after GM told me the parts would not be available until end of this month, or even next month (maybe longer). I took the loaner back, picked up the CTS. It drove terribly, darting from lane to lane, and the steering feeling like it had bushings that were 150K miles old. Lots of play in the steering, to the point it felt dangerous. Transmission shifted hard....all-in-all it was clear something was wrong. Took it back. They gave me another loaner, and that's the way it's been ever since. It's still at the dealership service dept, either unfixable, or awaiting more parts, which are again hard to come by.

Not sure what is still wrong, and no one has told me (and yes, I've called the dealer's service dept to find out). This has now stretched out to two months.....and counting that the CTS has been undriveable.

I had been test driving different cars in anticipation that regardless of what Cadillac did, it wasn't going to be in my garage any more.

Found it interesting that they did not have any recall listed when I looked it up, either. AB348 found the reference to it, which was the same as they wrote on my service ticket. That is (paraphrased) wiring and harness was routed to close to the ½ shaft and exhaust. This would cause chafing, and or melting of the wiring insulation and associated pieces to secure the harness and the wiring. This would cause the wiring to arc, resulting in fire.

Here's the vin#....1G6AX5SX7G0107602.

Looking at the notice, it's not actually called a recall (although that's what the dealership called it). GM calls it a Field Action Service Update. That number is....N162033530

To those of you who have access, would like to hear what's going on with the car, as the information I'm getting is either incorrect, or an attempt to delay.

fintail

Unfortunately, the majority of market gains are owned by a small minority of the population, and indeed, it can't continue at this pace. I suppose it helps when one inherits a rising tide.

Indeed, people will act different in the next election. The Simpsons predicted this, and I suspect their prediction of the aftermath will be accurate as well. I know the hosts frown on anything remotely political, so that's it for me too

jmonroe said:

There is nothing FAKE about the stock market.

Although it can't continue at this pace I am, however, getting a kick out of listening to all the folks that will be sleeping under their beds for a few years.

Don't worry, maybe people will vote 2 times in the next election.

This is too political so I'm done before I have an @isellhondas problem.

jmonroe

fintail

I know some non-urban Canadians, and how they vote. We live in interesting times.

At least the cars are good!

driver100 said:

lol...you could be on to something there!

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

I am proud of you....brief, concise, informative!

You got that right !!

That post was deserving of an A ++.

jmonroe

jmonroe

fintail said:

Unfortunately, the majority of market gains are owned by a small minority of the population, and indeed, it can't continue at this pace. I suppose it helps when one inherits a rising tide.

Indeed, people will act different in the next election. The Simpsons predicted this, and I suspect their prediction of the aftermath will be accurate as well. I know the hosts frown on anything remotely political, so that's it for me too

jmonroe said:

There is nothing FAKE about the stock market.

Although it can't continue at this pace I am, however, getting a kick out of listening to all the folks that will be sleeping under their beds for a few years.

Don't worry, maybe people will vote 2 times in the next election.

This is too political so I'm done before I have an @isellhondas problem.

jmonroe

On the not political part.

It's nice to know that my 401K's must be with some of the "minority of the population" investors". Don't get me wrong, those big boys are making a killing, but I'm satisfied with the collateral runoff.

If I had any you know whats, I'd be jumping in deeper but I'm a chicken. I'll just do it the way I have been doing it. It got me this far and I never had a sleepless night (clarification: this comment was not on the political part)

jmonroe

isellhondas4

OK, I'm going to try something I am going to type @isellhondas to see what happens. Then I'll exit and come back here and click on that link to see if I reappear as my old self.

driver100

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

Y'all are correct. Dealer said car is fixed, bring back the loaner. This, after GM told me the parts would not be available until end of this month, or even next month (maybe longer). I took the loaner back, picked up the CTS. It drove terribly, darting from lane to lane, and the steering feeling like it had bushings that were 150K miles old. Lots of play in the steering, to the point it felt dangerous. Transmission shifted hard....all-in-all it was clear something was wrong. Took it back. They gave me another loaner, and that's the way it's been ever since. It's still at the dealership service dept, either unfixable, or awaiting more parts, which are again hard to come by.

Not sure what is still wrong, and no one has told me (and yes, I've called the dealer's service dept to find out). This has now stretched out to two months.....and counting that the CTS has been undriveable.

I had been test driving different cars in anticipation that regardless of what Cadillac did, it wasn't going to be in my garage any more.

Found it interesting that they did not have any recall listed when I looked it up, either. AB348 found the reference to it, which was the same as they wrote on my service ticket. That is (paraphrased) wiring and harness was routed to close to the ½ shaft and exhaust. This would cause chafing, and or melting of the wiring insulation and associated pieces to secure the harness and the wiring. This would cause the wiring to arc, resulting in fire.

Here's the vin#....1G6AX5SX7G0107602.

Looking at the notice, it's not actually called a recall (although that's what the dealership called it). GM calls it a Field Action Service Update. That number is....N162033530

To those of you who have access, would like to hear what's going on with the car, as the information I'm getting is either incorrect, or an attempt to delay.

GG, Can't get the Field Action Report....probably an internal document. I did use your VIN and got this message;

Currently, there are no recalls or programs associated with your 2016 Cadillac CTS A
VIN: 1G6AX5SX7G0107602
Results last updated: Feb 24, 2017

So, when is a recall not a recall....when you can't find it on their own web site?

jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

I am proud of you....brief, concise, informative!

You got that right !!

That post was deserving of an A ++.

jmonroe

Thanks, I'll cherish this for evermore.

Might even get an 11 x 14 glossy for my office.

Now don't go handing this out to others. That would just cheapen it and then I'll have to use it as a dart board. :@ .

jmonroe

driver100

isellhondas4 said:

OK, I'm going to try something I am going to type @isellhondas to see what happens. Then I'll exit and come back here and click on that link to see if I reappear as my old self.

But, we all like Isellhondas4 better, he has a better sense of humor

ab348

suydam said:

I know you're only joking but could you please knock off the fake news riffs? You live in Canada. You're not in a country where our president just barred legitimate news outlets from a press conference. It's a pretty serious situation.

We have a pretty serious situation up here too, just in reverse. And our media is just as bad. They need to go back to their former ways of reporting news and not taking such an obvious slant (in either direction).

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Michaell said:

carnaught said:

@graphicguy, btw, curious. With getting the new Infiniti, are you planning on keeping the CT6 loaner as long as they still have your Caddy?

I believe the dealer asked for the loaner back. That may have been what spurred the shopping for, and ultimate purchase of, the Q50.

I don't think the dealer did ask for the loaner back....since his car is in for a recall and GM has to provide him with a car while it is recalled. They may leave him with the loaner until the warranty period is up, then give him back his car.

WHOA...I might have to resort to my old ways. Hang on for just a little while:

IIRC, @graphicguy got a call to bring his loaner back. When he got to the dealership they informed him his car was repaired and sent him on his way. Not to far from the dealerships lot the car acted up. He took it back and was given a different loaner. I don't remember him saying they wanted that one back. So, I'm thinking he still has it.

A lot of info in a streamlined post.

jmonroe

I am proud of you....brief, concise, informative!

You got that right !!

That post was deserving of an A ++.

jmonroe

Thanks, I'll cherish this for evermore.

Might even get an 11 x 14 glossy for my office.

Now don't go handing this out to others. That would just cheapen it and then I'll have to use it as a dart board. :@ .

jmonroe

Don't worry, I won't give it to anyone else (I am sure they will be staying up at night trying to find a way to get one. But, it is only for you....I promise)

driver100

ab348 said:

suydam said:

I know you're only joking but could you please knock off the fake news riffs? You live in Canada. You're not in a country where our president just barred legitimate news outlets from a press conference. It's a pretty serious situation.

We have a pretty serious situation up here too, just in reverse. And our media is just as bad. They need to go back to their former ways of reporting news and not taking such an obvious slant (in either direction).

I agree 100%. I get lots of news from both countries and I don't believe it unless it is verifiable or adds up. Every news source and reporter has an agenda these days. And, if they work for a particular network or chain or indie, they have to tow the line. Read carefully, weigh it all, come to your own conclusions.

abacomike

driver100 said:

OK, I'm going to try something I am going to type @isellhondas to see what happens. Then I'll exit and come back here and click on that link to see if I reappear as my old self.

But, we all like Isellhondas4 better, he has a better sense of humor

Driver, I know you are trying to make light of the frustration isellhondas is experiencing, however I know that if he is really upset about his "handle" becoming unavailable to him once again, your efforts might not be construed as being laughable, smiley face or not. We should all be empathetic with his situation, don't you agree?

ab348

Mike, I am guilty of that too by making light of the "imposter" posting through @isellhondas4 (though not today because Craig was obviously very frustrated and unhappy based upon his post). I think we are all empathetic for his situation and hope it can somehow get resolved. I only wish I had an answer for him.

driver100

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

isellhondas4 said:

OK, I'm going to try something I am going to type @isellhondas to see what happens. Then I'll exit and come back here and click on that link to see if I reappear as my old self.

But, we all like Isellhondas4 better, he has a better sense of humor

Driver, I know you are trying to make light of the frustration isellhondas is experiencing, however I know that if he is really upset about his "handle" becoming unavailable to him once again, your efforts might not be construed as being laughable, smiley face or not.

We should all be empathetic with his situation, don't you agree?

IMHO I can't get too excited about a computer glitch these days. Sure it is frustrating, but, if I gave up every time I had a technological problem I would have hung myself by now.

Try being on the phone with Vizio customer service for 4 hours and not getting a straight answer....that is frustrating.

Not that I am not sympathetic, I understand he is frustrated, but, unless lols or likes are that important....just use a new handle.

I learned a lot about life through tennis and picklenball. Pickleball is a better example. A game takes about 15 minutes to play. You go out and play and you win or lose. Then you sit out or go back on the court with 3 other people. No one likes to lose, but one team will lose....but so what, you have fun playing, you make some good plays that make you feel good, and you get to start all over again....not the end of the world!

btw, I probably just jinxed myself...look for Driver3287 next week!

abacomike

ab348 said:

Mike, I am guilty of that too by making light of the "imposter" posting through @isellhondas4 (though not today because Craig was obviously very frustrated and unhappy based upon his post). I think we are all empathetic for his situation and hope it can somehow get resolved. I only wish I had an answer for him.

Me, too, ab!

cdnpinhead

Between the scolds (you know who you are) and the cranky old men (likewise), there's a lot of scrolling going on these days in my world.

Can't we all just get along? Been awhile since that thing was coined.

qbrozen

andres3 said:

I posted a link to a Forbes article on their picks for the 13 cars to avoid in 2016/17 in the chronic car buyer's forum. Probably would have been more appropriate here, so I'll copy it here: http://www2.forbes.com/business/13-new-cars-to-avoid-for-2016/ WARNING - some of you may be offended by their choices and selections.

Good to know what I shouldn't buy last year. :b

graphicguy

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

Y'all are correct. Dealer said car is fixed, bring back the loaner. This, after GM told me the parts would not be available until end of this month, or even next month (maybe longer). I took the loaner back, picked up the CTS. It drove terribly, darting from lane to lane, and the steering feeling like it had bushings that were 150K miles old. Lots of play in the steering, to the point it felt dangerous. Transmission shifted hard....all-in-all it was clear something was wrong. Took it back. They gave me another loaner, and that's the way it's been ever since. It's still at the dealership service dept, either unfixable, or awaiting more parts, which are again hard to come by.

Not sure what is still wrong, and no one has told me (and yes, I've called the dealer's service dept to find out). This has now stretched out to two months.....and counting that the CTS has been undriveable.

I had been test driving different cars in anticipation that regardless of what Cadillac did, it wasn't going to be in my garage any more.

Found it interesting that they did not have any recall listed when I looked it up, either. AB348 found the reference to it, which was the same as they wrote on my service ticket. That is (paraphrased) wiring and harness was routed to close to the ½ shaft and exhaust. This would cause chafing, and or melting of the wiring insulation and associated pieces to secure the harness and the wiring. This would cause the wiring to arc, resulting in fire.

Here's the vin#....1G6AX5SX7G0107602.

Looking at the notice, it's not actually called a recall (although that's what the dealership called it). GM calls it a Field Action Service Update. That number is....N162033530

To those of you who have access, would like to hear what's going on with the car, as the information I'm getting is either incorrect, or an attempt to delay.

GG, Can't get the Field Action Report....probably an internal document. I did use your VIN and got this message;

Currently, there are no recalls or programs associated with your 2016 Cadillac CTS A
VIN: 1G6AX5SX7G0107602
Results last updated: Feb 24, 2017

So, when is a recall not a recall....when you can't find it on their own web site?

Somebody, somewhere, ain't being honest about the (many) problems with the CTS.

ab348

graphicguy said:

Somebody, somewhere, ain't being honest about the (many) problems with the CTS.

Yes, I agree.

driver100

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

Y'all are correct. Dealer said car is fixed, bring back the loaner. This, after GM told me the parts would not be available until end of this month, or even next month (maybe longer). I took the loaner back, picked up the CTS. It drove terribly, darting from lane to lane, and the steering feeling like it had bushings that were 150K miles old. Lots of play in the steering, to the point it felt dangerous. Transmission shifted hard....all-in-all it was clear something was wrong. Took it back. They gave me another loaner, and that's the way it's been ever since. It's still at the dealership service dept, either unfixable, or awaiting more parts, which are again hard to come by.

Not sure what is still wrong, and no one has told me (and yes, I've called the dealer's service dept to find out). This has now stretched out to two months.....and counting that the CTS has been undriveable.

I had been test driving different cars in anticipation that regardless of what Cadillac did, it wasn't going to be in my garage any more.

Found it interesting that they did not have any recall listed when I looked it up, either. AB348 found the reference to it, which was the same as they wrote on my service ticket. That is (paraphrased) wiring and harness was routed to close to the ½ shaft and exhaust. This would cause chafing, and or melting of the wiring insulation and associated pieces to secure the harness and the wiring. This would cause the wiring to arc, resulting in fire.

Here's the vin#....1G6AX5SX7G0107602.

Looking at the notice, it's not actually called a recall (although that's what the dealership called it). GM calls it a Field Action Service Update. That number is....N162033530

To those of you who have access, would like to hear what's going on with the car, as the information I'm getting is either incorrect, or an attempt to delay.

GG, Can't get the Field Action Report....probably an internal document. I did use your VIN and got this message;

Currently, there are no recalls or programs associated with your 2016 Cadillac CTS A
VIN: 1G6AX5SX7G0107602
Results last updated: Feb 24, 2017

So, when is a recall not a recall....when you can't find it on their own web site?

Somebody, somewhere, ain't being honest about the (many) problems with the CTS.

GG, if you get a chance check out this site with 2016 CTS transmission problems. They talk about a clunking transmission in colder weather. See if it is the same as you experienced.

2016 Cadillac CTS transmission problems

driver100

ab348 said:

graphicguy said:

Somebody, somewhere, ain't being honest about the (many) problems with the CTS.

Yes, I agree.

Ab, what do you think is going on?

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Unfortunately, the majority of market gains are owned by a small minority of the population, and indeed, it can't continue at this pace. I suppose it helps when one inherits a rising tide.

Indeed, people will act different in the next election. The Simpsons predicted this, and I suspect their prediction of the aftermath will be accurate as well. I know the hosts frown on anything remotely political, so that's it for me too

jmonroe said:

There is nothing FAKE about the stock market.

Although it can't continue at this pace I am, however, getting a kick out of listening to all the folks that will be sleeping under their beds for a few years.

Don't worry, maybe people will vote 2 times in the next election.

This is too political so I'm done before I have an @isellhondas problem.

jmonroe

I'd vote Liza Simpson for first woman president.

Too lazy to look it up. Does the Caddy CTS4 have that feature where the engine turns off-on at stop lights? I was next to one and heard the engine start when the light turned green.

I'd hate that.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

GG, I was wondering about something. I have tried looking up recall notices for a 2016 Cadillac CTS, and I can't find any that mention a gas line harness or anything like that.

If I check the Cadillac site I can check by VIN number. I don't have your VIN so I can't check, but it might be interesting for you to see if it comes up;
CADILLAC RECALL NOTICES

Maybe your car was recalled, or maybe they just call it a recall because they get dinged less for a recall than a major fault.

Y'all are correct. Dealer said car is fixed, bring back the loaner. This, after GM told me the parts would not be available until end of this month, or even next month (maybe longer). I took the loaner back, picked up the CTS. It drove terribly, darting from lane to lane, and the steering feeling like it had bushings that were 150K miles old. Lots of play in the steering, to the point it felt dangerous. Transmission shifted hard....all-in-all it was clear something was wrong. Took it back. They gave me another loaner, and that's the way it's been ever since. It's still at the dealership service dept, either unfixable, or awaiting more parts, which are again hard to come by.

Not sure what is still wrong, and no one has told me (and yes, I've called the dealer's service dept to find out). This has now stretched out to two months.....and counting that the CTS has been undriveable.

I had been test driving different cars in anticipation that regardless of what Cadillac did, it wasn't going to be in my garage any more.

Found it interesting that they did not have any recall listed when I looked it up, either. AB348 found the reference to it, which was the same as they wrote on my service ticket. That is (paraphrased) wiring and harness was routed to close to the ½ shaft and exhaust. This would cause chafing, and or melting of the wiring insulation and associated pieces to secure the harness and the wiring. This would cause the wiring to arc, resulting in fire.

Here's the vin#....1G6AX5SX7G0107602.

Looking at the notice, it's not actually called a recall (although that's what the dealership called it). GM calls it a Field Action Service Update. That number is....N162033530

To those of you who have access, would like to hear what's going on with the car, as the information I'm getting is either incorrect, or an attempt to delay.

GG, Can't get the Field Action Report....probably an internal document. I did use your VIN and got this message;

Currently, there are no recalls or programs associated with your 2016 Cadillac CTS A
VIN: 1G6AX5SX7G0107602
Results last updated: Feb 24, 2017

So, when is a recall not a recall....when you can't find it on their own web site?

Wow, that would be a nice mess GG's car ends up on some buy here pay here lot and someone checks for recalls and finds none, buys it and has the wheels fall off on the way home.

tjc78

Every car manufacturer has many different levels of service related documentation.   In GG's (extremely unfortunate) case someone identified a very small amount of cars with a serious problem.   It was communicated to the owners to avoid fires, injury, etc   It obviously is not a full blown recall that affects tens of thousands of cars, just a small sampling.  

Do you have any idea the amount of TSBs each auto maker issues every year?  

Caddy's handling of GGs situation is beyond deplorable.  At some point in time a decision has to be realized that the parts to fix said vehicle are taking too long to come in and restitution must be made.   A new equivalent vehicle should have been provided.   To make matters worse, at the tail end (when Caddy corporate was pushing I'm sure) the dealer rushed the job and gave him back a car that wasn't put back together properly.   

I went through a very similar situation with my 98 Olds 88.  Bought it brand new off the showroom floor and in the 11 months I owned it that car was in the shop for at least 3 months.  At one point I went to the dealer to check on it and the entire (read: Entire) interior was torn out looking for the water leak.   I about lost my mind.   To make a long story short, I said stop everything you are doing... put it back together and I want it back by EOD tomorrow.   They did just that and I traded it in on a rainy day with wet floors.  I took an absolute beating.   

The car hadn't been right for months.  The interior rattled, the electronics worked when they want to.  GM didn't givr a crap, they just said "our only obligation is to keep repairing under warranty".

I was too young at the time to fully fight them and just cut my losses. 

@graphicguy I feel your pain. Good luck with arbitration and getting your money back.