2015 Mercedes C Class Lease Questions

Michaell

help125 said:

Michaell said:

help125 said:

I'm trying to decide between two offers and I am leaning to just walking. I've negotiated 13% off MSRP of $47,340 which equals $41,185 at one dealer with a base MF of 0.00118 and 13.9% off MSRP of $47,890 which equals $41,225 at another dealer with base MF of but am thinking about walking.

Both dealers are pushing an acquisition fee of $1,095 vs. MBF fee of $795. The additional fees are doc $168 doc fee, $101 plates, $95 for title, and $25 for electronic filing. There are no other fees.

A few questions, when thinking about this should I roll the acquisition fee into the cap cost that way if the car gets totaled I don't lose that money?

Additionally, one dealer is trying to roll the sales tax into the net cap cost while keeping the use tax outside of the cap cost (I am in Chicago where there is a 9.5% sales tax and an additional 9% use tax), is this correct?

13% off is pretty strong; dealer is making up for the large discount by marking up the acquisition fee.

You can add the acquisition fee to the cap cost if you want.

I wasn't aware of two separate taxes for leases in Chicago .. I thought only the sales tax applied.

help125 said:

Also, is there a MSD program with MBF? Thanks.

There is, but it only applies to leases where the standard MF is being used, not a subvented one like you have.

I wish only the sales tax applied. The city of Chicago has an additional use tax.

Question, with the MSD. I just want to clarify that if the car is totaled I will get the MSDs back. If that is the case, I will push for a base MF.

Yes, the MSD monies would be returned to you.

help125

Ok, last question(s). I have a dealer giving me 15% off MSRP. They are pushing back though and essentially telling me that the acquisition fee is $1095 (not willing to discount it anymore) and the base MF is 0.00139 on the C300 4MATIC. They are indicating that the C300 is 0.0018 but the C300 4Matic is 0.00139. They are also allowing me to do MSD's which was indicated was only available on base MF earlier. This would also indicate that they aren't lying to me since I plan to use the MSD and they modeled out a payment with me using MSDs. Can you please confirm the following...

What is the base MF on 2015 c300 4Matic?
Are MBF acquisition fees different regionally?
Are base MF different regionally?

Also, they are putting the state, county, and city tax into the cap cost? Is this usual? There are a couple of dealers doing that in this area. Then they apply the use tax to the entire payment.

btw, did I mention I really dislike leasing in IL and going back and forth with these guys. Almost there.

kyfdx

help125 said:

Ok, last question(s). I have a dealer giving me 15% off MSRP. They are pushing back though and essentially telling me that the acquisition fee is $1095 (not willing to discount it anymore) and the base MF is 0.00139 on the C300 4MATIC. They are indicating that the C300 is 0.0018 but the C300 4Matic is 0.00139. They are also allowing me to do MSD's which was indicated was only available on base MF earlier. This would also indicate that they aren't lying to me since I plan to use the MSD and they modeled out a payment with me using MSDs. Can you please confirm the following...

What is the base MF on 2015 c300 4Matic?
Are MBF acquisition fees different regionally?
Are base MF different regionally?

Also, they are putting the state, county, and city tax into the cap cost? Is this usual? There are a couple of dealers doing that in this area. Then they apply the use tax to the entire payment.

btw, did I mention I really dislike leasing in IL and going back and forth with these guys. Almost there.

1) Base MF is .00119 for C300 AWD, everywhere.. they are marking up the rate (but, not a lot)
2) Base acquisition fee is $795, everywhere. They are marking it up the max allowed ($300)
3) If you can use MSDs on the subvented rates, that's great.. MBFS seems to be all over the map on restrictions, and seems to allow things willy-nilly.

Can't really speak for Illinois taxes.. if it makes you feel any better, they are a lot less than they used to be, but if you register the car in Chicago, you really get pounded.

You have to balance the markups against a great price, and being able to use MSDs.

What kind of payment are they coming up with?

help125

kyfdx said:

help125 said:

Ok, last question(s). I have a dealer giving me 15% off MSRP. They are pushing back though and essentially telling me that the acquisition fee is $1095 (not willing to discount it anymore) and the base MF is 0.00139 on the C300 4MATIC. They are indicating that the C300 is 0.0018 but the C300 4Matic is 0.00139. They are also allowing me to do MSD's which was indicated was only available on base MF earlier. This would also indicate that they aren't lying to me since I plan to use the MSD and they modeled out a payment with me using MSDs. Can you please confirm the following...

What is the base MF on 2015 c300 4Matic?
Are MBF acquisition fees different regionally?
Are base MF different regionally?

Also, they are putting the state, county, and city tax into the cap cost? Is this usual? There are a couple of dealers doing that in this area. Then they apply the use tax to the entire payment.

btw, did I mention I really dislike leasing in IL and going back and forth with these guys. Almost there.

1) Base MF is .00119 for C300 AWD, everywhere.. they are marking up the rate (but, not a lot)
2) Base acquisition fee is $795, everywhere. They are marking it up the max allowed ($300)
3) If you can use MSDs on the subvented rates, that's great.. MBFS seems to be all over the map on restrictions, and seems to allow things willy-nilly.

Can't really speak for Illinois taxes.. if it makes you feel any better, they are a lot less than they used to be, but if you register the car in Chicago, you really get pounded.

You have to balance the markups against a great price, and being able to use MSDs.

What kind of payment are they coming up with?

Thanks. I could have probably pushed it and walked away again but I had walked away twice already (which allowed me to get to the 15% MSRP) and the extra few dollars wasn't as big of a deal for me b/c I used the MSD program. I also was sick of dealing with dealers and needed to get back to work. I just didn't like that I knew the guy was lying to me as I had other dealers walk me through leasing terms and they were lower on the base rate. If you're not willing to budge on the terms due to MSRP just say that. Importantly, this was the closest dealer to me and they were the only one within 100 miles that had the exact exterior/interior color combination my wife and I wanted. For the extra few bucks, we just went with it. The details worked out to

Lease Terms: 36/10
MSRP: 46,370
Negotiated Price: 39,414
Acquisition Fee: 1095
Sales Tax: 1,348 (which is bundled into the cap cost. 9.5% rate)
Net Cap Cost: 43,097.37 (includes additional $850 for 2 year maint and $398 in title, license, registration, doc fees, etc)
MF: .00059 which includes the 10 MSD payments and autopay discount
Chicago Use Tax: 9% (use this like a regular tax rate)
Monthly Payment: $466.85 (Without the maint it was $453 I believe)

Thanks for all the help everyone and also to you kyfdx for the time you spend moderating the board. I appreciate it and it helped tremendously. We now have the car in our possession and are happy.

kyfdx

help125 said:

kyfdx said:

help125 said:

Ok, last question(s). I have a dealer giving me 15% off MSRP. They are pushing back though and essentially telling me that the acquisition fee is $1095 (not willing to discount it anymore) and the base MF is 0.00139 on the C300 4MATIC. They are indicating that the C300 is 0.0018 but the C300 4Matic is 0.00139. They are also allowing me to do MSD's which was indicated was only available on base MF earlier. This would also indicate that they aren't lying to me since I plan to use the MSD and they modeled out a payment with me using MSDs. Can you please confirm the following...

What is the base MF on 2015 c300 4Matic?
Are MBF acquisition fees different regionally?
Are base MF different regionally?

Also, they are putting the state, county, and city tax into the cap cost? Is this usual? There are a couple of dealers doing that in this area. Then they apply the use tax to the entire payment.

btw, did I mention I really dislike leasing in IL and going back and forth with these guys. Almost there.

1) Base MF is .00119 for C300 AWD, everywhere.. they are marking up the rate (but, not a lot)
2) Base acquisition fee is $795, everywhere. They are marking it up the max allowed ($300)
3) If you can use MSDs on the subvented rates, that's great.. MBFS seems to be all over the map on restrictions, and seems to allow things willy-nilly.

Can't really speak for Illinois taxes.. if it makes you feel any better, they are a lot less than they used to be, but if you register the car in Chicago, you really get pounded.

You have to balance the markups against a great price, and being able to use MSDs.

What kind of payment are they coming up with?

Thanks. I could have probably pushed it and walked away again but I had walked away twice already (which allowed me to get to the 15% MSRP) and the extra few dollars wasn't as big of a deal for me b/c I used the MSD program. I also was sick of dealing with dealers and needed to get back to work. I just didn't like that I knew the guy was lying to me as I had other dealers walk me through leasing terms and they were lower on the base rate. If you're not willing to budge on the terms due to MSRP just say that. Importantly, this was the closest dealer to me and they were the only one within 100 miles that had the exact exterior/interior color combination my wife and I wanted. For the extra few bucks, we just went with it. The details worked out to

Lease Terms: 36/10
MSRP: 46,370
Negotiated Price: 39,414
Acquisition Fee: 1095
Sales Tax: 1,348 (which is bundled into the cap cost. 9.5% rate)
Net Cap Cost: 43,097.37 (includes additional $850 for 2 year maint and $398 in title, license, registration, doc fees, etc)
MF: .00059 which includes the 10 MSD payments and autopay discount
Chicago Use Tax: 9% (use this like a regular tax rate)
Monthly Payment: $466.85 (Without the maint it was $453 I believe)

Thanks for all the help everyone and also to you kyfdx for the time you spend moderating the board. I appreciate it and it helped tremendously. We now have the car in our possession and are happy.

With the extra 9% tax in Chicago, that's a great deal..

help125

kyfdx said:

help125 said:

kyfdx said:

help125 said:

Ok, last question(s). I have a dealer giving me 15% off MSRP. They are pushing back though and essentially telling me that the acquisition fee is $1095 (not willing to discount it anymore) and the base MF is 0.00139 on the C300 4MATIC. They are indicating that the C300 is 0.0018 but the C300 4Matic is 0.00139. They are also allowing me to do MSD's which was indicated was only available on base MF earlier. This would also indicate that they aren't lying to me since I plan to use the MSD and they modeled out a payment with me using MSDs. Can you please confirm the following...

What is the base MF on 2015 c300 4Matic?
Are MBF acquisition fees different regionally?
Are base MF different regionally?

Also, they are putting the state, county, and city tax into the cap cost? Is this usual? There are a couple of dealers doing that in this area. Then they apply the use tax to the entire payment.

btw, did I mention I really dislike leasing in IL and going back and forth with these guys. Almost there.

1) Base MF is .00119 for C300 AWD, everywhere.. they are marking up the rate (but, not a lot)
2) Base acquisition fee is $795, everywhere. They are marking it up the max allowed ($300)
3) If you can use MSDs on the subvented rates, that's great.. MBFS seems to be all over the map on restrictions, and seems to allow things willy-nilly.

Can't really speak for Illinois taxes.. if it makes you feel any better, they are a lot less than they used to be, but if you register the car in Chicago, you really get pounded.

You have to balance the markups against a great price, and being able to use MSDs.

What kind of payment are they coming up with?

Thanks. I could have probably pushed it and walked away again but I had walked away twice already (which allowed me to get to the 15% MSRP) and the extra few dollars wasn't as big of a deal for me b/c I used the MSD program. I also was sick of dealing with dealers and needed to get back to work. I just didn't like that I knew the guy was lying to me as I had other dealers walk me through leasing terms and they were lower on the base rate. If you're not willing to budge on the terms due to MSRP just say that. Importantly, this was the closest dealer to me and they were the only one within 100 miles that had the exact exterior/interior color combination my wife and I wanted. For the extra few bucks, we just went with it. The details worked out to

Lease Terms: 36/10
MSRP: 46,370
Negotiated Price: 39,414
Acquisition Fee: 1095
Sales Tax: 1,348 (which is bundled into the cap cost. 9.5% rate)
Net Cap Cost: 43,097.37 (includes additional $850 for 2 year maint and $398 in title, license, registration, doc fees, etc)
MF: .00059 which includes the 10 MSD payments and autopay discount
Chicago Use Tax: 9% (use this like a regular tax rate)
Monthly Payment: $466.85 (Without the maint it was $453 I believe)

Thanks for all the help everyone and also to you kyfdx for the time you spend moderating the board. I appreciate it and it helped tremendously. We now have the car in our possession and are happy.

With the extra 9% tax in Chicago, that's a great deal..

Thanks. I forgot to mention I was also able to utilize my cash back credit card (without any fees) for the MSD and first payment so I will get 2% cash back on that.

waynem3

Can you please provide us with the dealer you got your lease deal through ?

yashj

Hi,

I am planning to lease Benz 2015 c300w4 and I live in VA.

Car details –
Exterior – White
Interior – Red

Sports, Multimedia, interior package,Illuminated star, rear deck spoiler,blind spot, parktronic, panarama roof, head up display, sport suspension, LED head lamps, 19” wheels

Dealer offer

MSRP – 55000
OTD – 50000


Lease – 547 with $2000 down for 3 years/12K miles which includes all tax and other charges

What should be my MF and Residual.

Is 547 a good deal given I am paying 2000 down.

kyfdx

yashj said:

Hi,

I am planning to lease Benz 2015 c300w4 and I live in VA.

Car details –
Exterior – White
Interior – Red

Sports, Multimedia, interior package,Illuminated star, rear deck spoiler,blind spot, parktronic, panarama roof, head up display, sport suspension, LED head lamps, 19” wheels

Dealer offer

MSRP – 55000
OTD – 50000


Lease – 547 with $2000 down for 3 years/12K miles which includes all tax and other charges

What should be my MF and Residual.

Is 547 a good deal given I am paying 2000 down.

.00119 MF and 61% residual

Just using your MSRP and selling price, I get $556/mo.

OTD might be their term or your term, but that doesn't mean that's everything. Your $2000 due at signing probably includes 1st payment, $795 acq.fee ($1095 if it's marked up) and some sort of dealer/document fee.. That doesn't leave much left for a CAP reduction.

Ask the dealer for the net or adjusted CAP cost, and see how that differs from the $50K, then ask how your $2000 is being applied.

(your deal looks decent, if it includes VA tax)

ken_florida

Thanks to this site I think we got a pretty good deal on a 2015 C300 in South Florida:

MSRP $43,820
36 Months 10,000 miles
$0 down w/ 35 payments remaining
$452 per month w/ tax, which includes two scheduled maintenance's (oil changes, tire rotation, filters....)
Was $442 without the maintenance plan

Thanks for providing the residual and money factor numbers that helped us to get this deal. This site is amazing!

Michaell

ken104 said:

Thanks to this site I think we got a pretty good deal on a 2015 C300 in South Florida:

MSRP $43,820
36 Months 10,000 miles
$0 down w/ 35 payments remaining
$452 per month w/ tax, which includes two scheduled maintenance's (oil changes, tire rotation, filters....)
Was $442 without the maintenance plan

Thanks for providing the residual and money factor numbers that helped us to get this deal. This site is amazing!

Congrats, and enjoy your new MB!

datbenzboy

Even guys,


whats the programs for the c63 (s and non-s) for 36 months or 48 months 12k miles. thank you!

Michaell

datbenzboy said:

Even guys,


whats the programs for the c63 (s and non-s) for 36 months or 48 months 12k miles. thank you!

Standard MF (.00180-.00220) and 51% (36/12) or 39% (48/12)

sam2428

Hi, i am new to the forum and had some questions. Looks like many dealers ad discounting 2015 C Class Sedans up to $6000-8000 for lease deals. Would the same apply for financing? I.E. would I be able to negotiate down the selling price the same amount for buying?

I typically like to purchase my cars CPO, but with discounts this high...there really isn't much of a difference between new and CPO vehicles in the Houston, TX area.

kyfdx

sam2428 said:

Hi, i am new to the forum and had some questions. Looks like many dealers ad discounting 2015 C Class Sedans up to $6000-8000 for lease deals. Would the same apply for financing? I.E. would I be able to negotiate down the selling price the same amount for buying?

I typically like to purchase my cars CPO, but with discounts this high...there really isn't much of a difference between new and CPO vehicles in the Houston, TX area.

We aren't familiar with the incentives on this vehicle, so it's hard to say. Except for a few exceptions, incentives for purchase are usually as much or greater than a lease.

natedog07v

Any word on residual and MF info for the new C450 AMG Sport ? Word has it the numbers should be released today... I'm specifically interested in 36/10 numbers but folks would probably be interested in all of them if you happen to have them. Thanks !

kyfdx

natedog07v said:

Any word on residual and MF info for the new C450 AMG Sport ? Word has it the numbers should be released today... I'm specifically interested in 36/10 numbers but folks would probably be interested in all of them if you happen to have them. Thanks !

Standard MF and 59% residual for 36/10.

None of the shorter terms can compete.

willy39

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

natedog07v

kyfdx said:

natedog07v said:

Any word on residual and MF info for the new C450 AMG Sport ? Word has it the numbers should be released today... I'm specifically interested in 36/10 numbers but folks would probably be interested in all of them if you happen to have them. Thanks !

Standard MF and 59% residual for 36/10.

None of the shorter terms can compete.

Thanks ! I found the remaining numbers for the C450 in case anyone else looks this up:
Money factor is .00240 which is the standard rate which may fluctuate to
.00210 in standard form.
Residuals are:

15,000 miles=56%
12,000 miles=58%
10,000 miles=59%
7500 miles=60%

These are all for 36 months which is their standard lease.
30 months would be 2 points higher across the board and 24 months would be 5
points higher.

Michaell

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Michaell

natedog07v said:

kyfdx said:

natedog07v said:

Any word on residual and MF info for the new C450 AMG Sport ? Word has it the numbers should be released today... I'm specifically interested in 36/10 numbers but folks would probably be interested in all of them if you happen to have them. Thanks !

Standard MF and 59% residual for 36/10.

None of the shorter terms can compete.

Thanks ! I found the remaining numbers for the C450 in case anyone else looks this up:
Money factor is .00240 which is the standard rate which may fluctuate to
.00210 in standard form.
Residuals are:

15,000 miles=56%
12,000 miles=58%
10,000 miles=59%
7500 miles=60%

These are all for 36 months which is their standard lease.
30 months would be 2 points higher across the board and 24 months would be 5
points higher.

Thanks for the information ... I confirm the residual amounts, but the standard MF has always been a bit of a mystery. We've heard it fluctuates between .00180 and .00220, but that could be old information.

willy39

Michaell said:

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Thanks! I visited the dealer this afternoon and he only had 2016 models available with my preferred configuration. Are MF and residuals (36/10 and 24/10) available for the 2016 C300 4matic sport yet?

Michaell

willy39 said:

Michaell said:

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Thanks! I visited the dealer this afternoon and he only had 2016 models available with my preferred configuration. Are MF and residuals (36/10 and 24/10) available for the 2016 C300 4matic sport yet?

24/12 residual - 68%
36/12 residual - 62%

.00152 MF

Add 1% for 10K miles

phxdave

Michaell said:

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Michaell,
any change on the numbers for RWD version ?

Michaell

phxdave said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF 24/12 residual - 67% 36/12 residual - 61% Add 1% for 10K

Michaell, any change on the numbers for RWD version ?

 Same residual. .00118 is the RWD money factor 

phxdave

Michaell said:

phxdave said:

Michaell said:

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Michaell,
any change on the numbers for RWD version ?

 Same residual 0.00118 is the RWD money factor 

It's possible a MB thing but I don't like the MF offered when I look on the interest charge over 36% months ($2400). It is corresponding to 2.83%. Hyundai Genesis has MF 0.00022, equal 0.5%. What are the strategies with MB to lower the MF? I have an excellent credit. I offered a security deposit and for $400, the broker lowered it to 0.00111. Would offering more deposits (2-3 more) lower it further ? Also here I read that an autopay would help ?
What would be the lowest MF attainable ?

My current offer I am still not happy with is for a base C300 with a blind spot assist and rear camera ($1,010), MSRP $40,660 total, $390/month and $1600 upfront cost. Good enough ?

Michaell

phxdave said:

Michaell said:

phxdave said:

Michaell said:

willy39 said:

Any info on September numbers yet? More specifically looking for MF and residual on a 2015 C300 4matic sport - 24/10, 24/12, 36/10, 36/12. Thanks in advance.

.00119 MF

24/12 residual - 67%
36/12 residual - 61%

Add 1% for 10K

Michaell,
any change on the numbers for RWD version ?

 Same residual 0.00118 is the RWD money factor 

It's possible a MB thing but I don't like the MF offered when I look on the interest charge over 36% months ($2400). It is corresponding to 2.83%. Hyundai Genesis has MF 0.00022, equal 0.5%. What are the strategies with MB to lower the MF? I have an excellent credit. I offered a security deposit and for $400, the broker lowered it to 0.00111. Would offering more deposits (2-3 more) lower it further ? Also here I read that an autopay would help ?
What would be the lowest MF attainable ?

My current offer I am still not happy with is for a base C300 with a blind spot assist and rear camera ($1,010), MSRP $40,660 total, $390/month and $1600 upfront cost. Good enough ?

The base MF is as low as you can get with top tier credit without using multiple security deposits. We've been getting inconsistent information as to whether MBFS allows MSD on subvented MF (ie, not standard).

Yes, autopay will reduce the MF by .00010

thutko

Here it is
48950 MSRP
43950 Cap cost
.00119 MF
524.85 plus tax 554.24
795 Acquisition due at signing
1576 total due includes your first payment and maintenance

Hows this look? 36/15

thutko

What should the pricing be at 36/12 Please?

OR 24/12 ?

Thanks for the input!

Michaell

thutko said:

Here it is
48950 MSRP
43950 Cap cost
.00119 MF
524.85 plus tax 554.24
795 Acquisition due at signing
1576 total due includes your first payment and maintenance

Hows this look? 36/15

I get $505.27 + tax with those numbers .. somewhere there is an extra $700 buried in this deal.

thutko said:

What should the pricing be at 36/12 Please?

OR 24/12 ?

Thanks for the input!

$479.24/mo + tax for 36/12

$555.06/mo + tax for 24/12

kosteffektive

Hi, Can you provide resid & MF for 2015 C400 4matic, 24mo lease, 7500 & 10k miles please...I'm in California in case that matter...thank you v much!

Michaell

kosteffektive said:

Hi, Can you provide resid & MF for 2015 C400 4matic, 24mo lease, 7500 & 10k miles please...I'm in California in case that matter...thank you v much!

65% and 66% with standard MF of around .00200

caljc

I have been using this site for several years and the information is invaluable. Thanks to the moderators for all they do. I just wanted to share my experience with everyone. I started looking for a C400 about a month ago. I wasn't finding many new cars, but I did find several loaner cars with a few thousand miles. I went back and forth between a few dealers, playing them off each other and I finally got the car I wanted at a great price. My suggestion is to ask the dealers about these loaner cars. They seem to have a lot more wiggle room with them. You might not get exactly the color you want, but you can save hundreds a month. My final deal for a C400 with an MSRP of $54,235 was $450 a month with zero down for 3 years. All taxes, fees etc. were in that payment. It was a sign and drive lease. My advice is that if you have the time and patience take a look at this option.

Michaell

caljc said:

I have been using this site for several years and the information is invaluable. Thanks to the moderators for all they do. I just wanted to share my experience with everyone. I started looking for a C400 about a month ago. I wasn't finding many new cars, but I did find several loaner cars with a few thousand miles. I went back and forth between a few dealers, playing them off each other and I finally got the car I wanted at a great price. My suggestion is to ask the dealers about these loaner cars. They seem to have a lot more wiggle room with them. You might not get exactly the color you want, but you can save hundreds a month. My final deal for a C400 with an MSRP of $54,235 was $450 a month with zero down for 3 years. All taxes, fees etc. were in that payment. It was a sign and drive lease. My advice is that if you have the time and patience take a look at this option.

Wow - that is a good deal. Enjoy your new MB, and thanks for sharing your experience with us here.

thutko

I have a c300 MSRP 50k with 9,000 miles on it (loaner car)


12k off MSRP
24/12
2k down plus taxes and Main. $311 per month

zero down 397 a month plus taxes and Main.

Is that really good?

Please let me know asap! I'll pick it up tonight!

Michaell

thutko said:

I have a c300 MSRP 50k with 9,000 miles on it (loaner car)


12k off MSRP
24/12
2k down plus taxes and Main. $311 per month

zero down 397 a month plus taxes and Main.

Is that really good?

Please let me know asap! I'll pick it up tonight!

What are the MSRP and selling prices?

We don't recommend making a down payment on a lease - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

thutko

MSRP is $50,110

Cap cost $38,000
Dealer/State Fee's $533

Total Price $38,533

Net Residual $32,183

zero down would be 397, I pay taxes and Main. for the 2 years

Yours thoughts?

Negotiate lower?

kyfdx

$397 is really cheap..

thutko

Im sorry, the darn thing went over 10k today and they cant lease it...

benzfiend

How does this look everyone?

2015 C300 Sport Package
MSRP:44355
Sell Price: 38525.53
Sale Tax: 3090.76 (estimate)
Weight Fee: 24
Tax/Regs: 321 (estimate)
County Fee: 10
E Filing Fee: 29
Smog Abatement: 20
Doc Fee: 80

Balance Due: 44120.29 (estimate)

1k Down
36 months
12k miles

Monthly $477 tax incl.

I've shopped around and this seems competitive. Orange County, CA

benzfiend

thutko said:

MSRP is $50,110

Cap cost $38,000
Dealer/State Fee's $533

Total Price $38,533

Net Residual $32,183

zero down would be 397, I pay taxes and Main. for the 2 years

Yours thoughts?

Negotiate lower?

Super cheap...Where is this? But also, how many miles & lease term?

Michaell

benzfiend said:

How does this look everyone?

2015 C300 Sport Package
MSRP:44355
Sell Price: 38525.53
Sale Tax: 3090.76 (estimate)
Weight Fee: 24
Tax/Regs: 321 (estimate)
County Fee: 10
E Filing Fee: 29
Smog Abatement: 20
Doc Fee: 80

Balance Due: 44120.29 (estimate)

1k Down
36 months
12k miles

Monthly $477 tax incl.

I've shopped around and this seems competitive. Orange County, CA

First off, only the monthly payment is taxed on leases in CA, not the entire selling price. If I adjust the cap cost to exclude the sales tax ($39,009), and use 61% residual and .00118 MF, I get a pre-tax payment of $394/mo. If the tax rate is 9% in OC, the payment goes to $429/mo.

I'd confirm that the dealer is using the base MF and aren't inflating it on you.

thutko

benzfiend said:

thutko said:

MSRP is $50,110

Cap cost $38,000
Dealer/State Fee's $533

Total Price $38,533

Net Residual $32,183

zero down would be 397, I pay taxes and Main. for the 2 years

Yours thoughts?

Negotiate lower?

Super cheap...Where is this? But also, how many miles & lease term?

WI, 9950 miles, it went over 10k yesterday and they cant lease it now.

benzfiend

How does this look everyone?

2015 C300 Sport Package
MSRP:44355
Sell Price: 38525.53
Sale Tax: 3090.76 (estimate)
Weight Fee: 24
Tax/Regs: 321 (estimate)
County Fee: 10
E Filing Fee: 29
Smog Abatement: 20
Doc Fee: 80

Balance Due: 44120.29 (estimate)

1k Down
36 months
12k miles

Monthly $477 tax incl.

I've shopped around and this seems competitive. Orange County, CA (8% Tax Rate)

Michaell said:

benzfiend said:

How does this look everyone?

2015 C300 Sport Package
MSRP:44355
Sell Price: 38525.53
Sale Tax: 3090.76 (estimate)
Weight Fee: 24
Tax/Regs: 321 (estimate)
County Fee: 10
E Filing Fee: 29
Smog Abatement: 20
Doc Fee: 80

Balance Due: 44120.29 (estimate)

1k Down
36 months
12k miles

Monthly $477 tax incl.

I've shopped around and this seems competitive. Orange County, CA

First off, only the monthly payment is taxed on leases in CA, not the entire selling price. If I adjust the cap cost to exclude the sales tax ($39,009), and use 61% residual and .00118 MF, I get a pre-tax payment of $394/mo. If the tax rate is 9% in OC, the payment goes to $429/mo.

I'd confirm that the dealer is using the base MF and aren't inflating it on you.

Confirming as we speak...I believe there is an inflated MF as well as another dealership provided

MSRP: 43,655 (only a $700 difference in MSRP from above car)

Driveoff $799.20
12,000 mile lease
36 month term
$388.38 plus tax totaling $419.45

Same car...at 8% tax rate (OC, California)

Does that seem better?

phazer33

what is the discount the dealer is offering on the 43,655? seems they are padding something because monthly looks a little too high

benzfiend

phazer33 said:

what is the discount the dealer is offering on the 43,655? seems they are padding something because monthly looks a little too high

Sales Price is $36920.00

benzfiend

Revised Information for Pending Deal:

2015 C300 Sport Package
1k Down
36 months
12k miles


MSRP $44335

Cap Cost $35973
Residual 61%
Money Factor .00118


Payment $486

carqbuy

What are the MF & RV for the 2015 & 2016 c300 & c400 @ 12,000 for 36 months. 

kyfdx

carqbuy said:

What are the MF & RV for the 2015 & 2016 c300 & c400 @ 12,000 for 36 months. 

2015 C300: .00118 MF and 61% residual
2015 C400: Std. MF and 60% residual

2016 C300: .00152 MF and 62% residual
2016 C450: Std MF and 58% residual

fsunolescars

benzfiend said:

Revised Information for Pending Deal:

2015 C300 Sport Package
1k Down
36 months
12k miles


MSRP $44335

Cap Cost $35973
Residual 61%
Money Factor .00118


Payment $486

Is $486 a typo? Based on a $36K cap cost, the payment should be much lower with a 61% residual and .00118 MF.