2015 Mercedes C Class Lease Questions

benzfiend

fsunolescars said:

benzfiend said:

Revised Information for Pending Deal:

2015 C300 Sport Package
1k Down
36 months
12k miles


MSRP $44335

Cap Cost $35973
Residual 61%
Money Factor .00118


Payment $486

Is $486 a typo? Based on a $36K cap cost, the payment should be much lower with a 61% residual and .00118 MF.

It was not a typo. Needless to say I passed on that car and dealership.

I received the following from a different dealership and already signed:

2015 C300
Sport Pkg
Sunroof
Navigation
12k miles
36 months

MSRP 43,655
Cap Cost 38859
MF: .00118
Residual 61%

$500 Down
$446/month

Michaell

benzfiend said:

fsunolescars said:

benzfiend said:

Revised Information for Pending Deal:

2015 C300 Sport Package
1k Down
36 months
12k miles

MSRP $44335

Cap Cost $35973
Residual 61%
Money Factor .00118
Payment $486

Is $486 a typo? Based on a $36K cap cost, the payment should be much lower with a 61% residual and .00118 MF.

It was not a typo. Needless to say I passed on that car and dealership.

I received the following from a different dealership and already signed:

2015 C300
Sport Pkg
Sunroof
Navigation
12k miles
36 months

MSRP 43,655
Cap Cost 38859
MF: .00118
Residual 61%

$500 Down
$446/month

I get $417/mo + tax, so your quote of $446 looks to be in the ballpark.

benzfiend

Michaell said:

Revised Information for Pending Deal: 2015 C300 Sport Package 1k Down 36 months 12k miles MSRP $44335 Cap Cost $35973 Residual 61% Money Factor .00118 Payment $486

Is $486 a typo? Based on a $36K cap cost, the payment should be much lower with a 61% residual and .00118 MF.

It was not a typo. Needless to say I passed on that car and dealership. I received the following from a different dealership and already signed: 2015 C300 Sport Pkg Sunroof Navigation 12k miles 36 months MSRP 43,655 Cap Cost 38859 MF: .00118 Residual 61% $500 Down $446/month

I get $417/mo + tax, so your quote of $446 looks to be in the ballpark.

Yes, I am  very pleased with the outcome. I lovey new car and this forum got me a great deal! I really appreciate all of your guys' knowledge, insights, and advice

dan325is

Just signed this deal in LA (tax=9%). How did I do?

2015 C300 Sedan
Iridium Silver
Linden Wood
Rearview Camera
Blind Spot Assist
MSRP $41380

Sales Price $35010.68
Acquisition Fee $1095
2 yr Prepaid Maint $750
Cap Cost $36855.68
7.5k Miles
36 Months
Money Factor .00118
Residual 64%

$0 Drive away
$393.56/month, including tax.

kyfdx

dan325is said:

Just signed this deal in LA (tax=9%). How did I do?

2015 C300 Sedan
Iridium Silver
Linden Wood
Rearview Camera
Blind Spot Assist
MSRP $41380

Sales Price $35010.68
Acquisition Fee $1095
2 yr Prepaid Maint $750
Cap Cost $36855.68
7.5k Miles
36 Months
Money Factor .00118
Residual 64%

$0 Drive away
$393.56/month, including tax.

They marked up the acquisition fee by $300, but that's the base MF. Looks like you did pretty well, especially with maintenance included.

phazer33

Just got the following deal in OC.

C300 + Premium 1 + Rearcam + Panorama

3years / 10k miles
MSRP: ~$45k
Cap: ~38k

~$400 per month including 2 year maint
~$1600 down includes first month payment, $795 acq, dmv, fees etc

kyfdx

phazer33 said:

Just got the following deal in OC.

C300 + Premium 1 + Rearcam + Panorama

3years / 10k miles
MSRP: ~$45k
Cap: ~38k

~$400 per month including 2 year maint
~$1600 down includes first month payment, $795 acq, dmv, fees etc

Looks good.. Congrats!

mb_noob728

2015 C400 4 Matic - MTEX with most options
Selling price: 43,063.11
Tax: 3,014.42
doc fee: 389
mvp:6.60
Registration: 401
Tire fee: 7.50
Remaining Balance: 46,881.63
Residual: 32,376.00

2,000 down
560 mo x 36mo - 12k miles
Tier 1 credit

I feel like im getting gipped here. I havent been told what my money factor is but what is a competitive rate I should be expecting or negotiate towards?
Please help!

Michaell

mb_noob728 said:

2015 C400 4 Matic - MTEX with most options
Selling price: 43,063.11
Tax: 3,014.42
doc fee: 389
mvp:6.60
Registration: 401
Tire fee: 7.50
Remaining Balance: 46,881.63
Residual: 32,376.00

2,000 down
560 mo x 36mo - 12k miles
Tier 1 credit

I feel like im getting gipped here. I havent been told what my money factor is but what is a competitive rate I should be expecting or negotiate towards?
Please help!

2015 C400 4Matic 36/12 - standard MF (around .00200) and 59%.

What state is this? Only a few charge sales tax against the entire selling price.

Also, what is the MSRP?

mb_noob728

Michaell said:

mb_noob728 said:

2015 C400 4 Matic - MTEX with most options
Selling price: 43,063.11
Tax: 3,014.42
doc fee: 389
mvp:6.60
Registration: 401
Tire fee: 7.50
Remaining Balance: 46,881.63
Residual: 32,376.00

2,000 down
560 mo x 36mo - 12k miles
Tier 1 credit

I feel like im getting gipped here. I havent been told what my money factor is but what is a competitive rate I should be expecting or negotiate towards?
Please help!

2015 C400 4Matic 36/12 - standard MF (around .00200) and 59%.

What state is this? Only a few charge sales tax against the entire selling price.

Also, what is the MSRP?

Its in NJ. Also the MSRP is $54,955.00 with almost 6k miles on it. It was a loaner car

Michaell

mb_noob728 said:

Michaell said:

mb_noob728 said:

2015 C400 4 Matic - MTEX with most options
Selling price: 43,063.11
Tax: 3,014.42
doc fee: 389
mvp:6.60
Registration: 401
Tire fee: 7.50
Remaining Balance: 46,881.63
Residual: 32,376.00

2,000 down
560 mo x 36mo - 12k miles
Tier 1 credit

I feel like im getting gipped here. I havent been told what my money factor is but what is a competitive rate I should be expecting or negotiate towards?
Please help!

2015 C400 4Matic 36/12 - standard MF (around .00200) and 59%.

What state is this? Only a few charge sales tax against the entire selling price.

Also, what is the MSRP?

Its in NJ. Also the MSRP is $54,955.00 with almost 6k miles on it. It was a loaner car

NJ taxes the sum of the payments - can be paid up front or added to the cap cost.

With 6000 miles, you should be able to negotiate a pretty hefty discount from sticker - but, the residual value will be manually adjusted for those miles, as well. Probably at .10-.25 per mile.

Ask for the specific MF used in their quote - the dealer is allowed to mark it up for extra profit.

One last question - what is the breakdown of the $2000 up front cash?

phazer33

kyfdx said:

phazer33 said:

Just got the following deal in OC.

C300 + Premium 1 + Rearcam + Panorama

3years / 10k miles
MSRP: ~$45k
Cap: ~38k

~$400 per month including 2 year maint
~$1600 down includes first month payment, $795 acq, dmv, fees etc

Looks good.. Congrats!

Thanks it was fairly easy to get 7K off MSRP from most dealers. The trick is to reduce cap cost don't say anything about wanting a lease. Then once they agree to that you can start running the numbers and say you wont do deals that aren't base MF.

kpxzzang

Hi there,

Could I get an opinion on how this deal sounds?

2015 C300 4MATIC - Premium Package, Multimedia Package, Panoramic Sunroof, 18" 5-Spoke Wheels, Blind Spot Assist, Heated Front Seats, Open-Pore Black Ash Trim, Rear Trunk Lid Spoiler, Wheel Locks.
MSRP $50,060
Selling price $41,550
No sales tax (Oregon)
12,000 miles/year
DMV fees $348
Acquisition fee $795
Residual $30,537

$1,000 down (includes first months payments and fees) and $400/month for 36 months.

kyfdx

kpxzzang said:

Hi there,

Could I get an opinion on how this deal sounds?

2015 C300 4MATIC - Premium Package, Multimedia Package, Panoramic Sunroof, 18" 5-Spoke Wheels, Blind Spot Assist, Heated Front Seats, Open-Pore Black Ash Trim, Rear Trunk Lid Spoiler, Wheel Locks.
MSRP $50,060
Selling price $41,550
No sales tax (Oregon)
12,000 miles/year
DMV fees $348
Acquisition fee $795
Residual $30,537

$1,000 down (includes first months payments and fees) and $400/month for 36 months.

.00119 MF and 61% residual (assuming 36 months).

Adding the acquisition fee to the selling price, I get $415/mo. Looks like a little bit of that $1000 must be going to a CAP cost reduction.

Very good deal.

edmundsft86

What is the MF and residual for:

1) 2015 C300 4Matic Sport
2) 2016 C300 4Matic Sport
3) 2016 C450 AMG

10K and 12K miles 24 to 36 months for September and if known October please? Thanks!

kyfdx

edmundsft86 said:

What is the MF and residual for:

1) 2015 C300 4Matic Sport
2) 2016 C300 4Matic Sport
3) 2016 C450 AMG

10K and 12K miles 24 to 36 months for September and if known October please? Thanks!

1) .00119 MF and 67%/62% residual.
2) .00152 MF and 68%/62% residual
3) Standard MF and 63%/58% residual

Add 1% to any number for 10K/yr

hyeteck

Is this deal any good?

2015 C300
MSRP: $48,060
36 months
7,500 miles/yr
0.00118 money factor
63% residual
$0 drive off (nothing due at signing)
$375/mo plus tax

Location: Southern California

kyfdx

hyeteck said:

Is this deal any good?

2015 C300
MSRP: $48,060
36 months
7,500 miles/yr
0.00118 money factor
63% residual
$0 drive off (nothing due at signing)
$375/mo plus tax

Location: Southern California

That's the base money factor. The payment is very low. Do you know the selling price or CAP cost?

hyeteck

kyfdx said:

hyeteck said:

Is this deal any good?

2015 C300
MSRP: $48,060
36 months
7,500 miles/yr
0.00118 money factor
63% residual
$0 drive off (nothing due at signing)
$375/mo plus tax

Location: Southern California

That's the base money factor. The payment is very low. Do you know the selling price or CAP cost?

Don't remember the exact selling price of the vehicle. I believe it was just around $39,800 range. The percentage discount off MSRP was about 17%. Residual was $30,277.

Initially they wanted about $880 drive off and said it was impossible to do it with $0 drive off at any Mercedes dealership but in the end they came around and agreed to the $0 drive off. The car was for a friend of mine, I just went along to help him understand the lease numbers and make sure he was getting the base MF.

sweeneytodd

Hi,
I wonder if you guys have the numbers for 2016 C63 and C63S?
MF, Residual, for minimum mileage for 3 years.

kyfdx

sweeneytodd said:

Hi,
I wonder if you guys have the numbers for 2016 C63 and C63S?
MF, Residual, for minimum mileage for 3 years.

Standard money factor and 54%/51% residual for 36 months, 7.5K/yr

padoo

Guys I am very thank full for this forum as I get great in formation from here.

This is the deal I got today C300 in thousand oaks CA

C300 + premium package

MSRP : $44,210
Discount $7815
SP: 36,394.73
Cap Cost: $39,584
MF: .00118
Residual 62%
O drive off , 35 payments of $400.09

I paid 1 single balloon Payment so $ 12,140.67 so comes out to be $337 payment per month for 36 months.

padoo

They are offering me 3 yrs maintenance for $530 and Lease protection for $749 , which covers for ding and window chip at lease return. Should I buy these?

Michaell

padoo said:

Guys I am very thank full for this forum as I get great in formation from here.

This is the deal I got today C300 in thousand oaks CA

C300 + premium package

MSRP : $44,210
Discount $7815
SP: 36,394.73
Cap Cost: $39,584
MF: .00118
Residual 62%
O drive off , 35 payments of $400.09

I paid 1 single balloon Payment so $ 12,140.67 so comes out to be $337 payment per month for 36 months.

Nice solid deal - enjoy the MB!

padoo said:

They are offering me 3 yrs maintenance for $530 and Lease protection for $749 , which covers for ding and window chip at lease return. Should I buy these?

The maintenance deal is probably not a bad idea, but the lease protection is a better deal for the dealer than for you.

dl_amg

Thanks for everyone's price input.  Just helped my friend pickup C300 with MSRP $48,330 in SoCal.  Here is the deal: 
- 36mo/10k mi per yr
- 3yr service pkg
- $1k at sign and drive off
- $460 incl SoCal 9% tax

cheers!

brunoventura

@padoo
Looks like you got a great deal. Is for 10k or 12k miles?

brunoventura

The 2016 models are slowing rolling in. What are the MF's/residuals for a C300 base for October?
2015 36/12k
2016 36/12k

Location: Greater Los Angeles

Thanks so much.

padoo

I got it at 36/10K

kymera

I had such a great experience with the people helping me get a JGC a couple months ago. I got it for a great price and now my friend asked me to help her get an MB lease

She found the following
MB C300 Sport MSRP: $52540
Selling Price: $45000
Term: 36/15k
MF: 0.00119
Residual: 59% (I think she'll go for 12k mi/year not the 15k this was written for)

Now, the are asking for a $2k drive-off
1st month payment: 543.06
Acquisition fee: 795
Fees/Insurance: 588.50
Upfront tax: 191.40

Is that right? This is much more than the drive-away cost I paid on my Jeep, more expensive car notwithstanding.

Thanks for your insight.

kyfdx

brunoventura said:

The 2016 models are slowing rolling in. What are the MF's/residuals for a C300 base for October?
2015 36/12k
2016 36/12k

Location: Greater Los Angeles

Thanks so much.

2015: .00118 MF and 61% residual
2016: .00152 MF and 62% residual

kyfdx

kymera said:

I had such a great experience with the people helping me get a JGC a couple months ago. I got it for a great price and now my friend asked me to help her get an MB lease

She found the following
MB C300 Sport MSRP: $52540
Selling Price: $45000
Term: 36/15k
MF: 0.00119
Residual: 59% (I think she'll go for 12k mi/year not the 15k this was written for)

Now, the are asking for a $2k drive-off
1st month payment: 543.06
Acquisition fee: 795
Fees/Insurance: 588.50
Upfront tax: 191.40

Is that right? This is much more than the drive-away cost I paid on my Jeep, more expensive car notwithstanding.

Thanks for your insight.

I get $480/mo.+tax with those numbers.

Your drive-off is up to you... you can roll in the acquisition fee.. but, of course, the payment will go up.

kymera

kyfdx said:

kymera said:

I had such a great experience with the people helping me get a JGC a couple months ago. I got it for a great price and now my friend asked me to help her get an MB lease

She found the following
MB C300 Sport MSRP: $52540
Selling Price: $45000
Term: 36/15k
MF: 0.00119
Residual: 59% (I think she'll go for 12k mi/year not the 15k this was written for)

Now, the are asking for a $2k drive-off
1st month payment: 543.06
Acquisition fee: 795
Fees/Insurance: 588.50
Upfront tax: 191.40

Is that right? This is much more than the drive-away cost I paid on my Jeep, more expensive car notwithstanding.

Thanks for your insight.

I get $480/mo.+tax with those numbers.

Your drive-off is up to you... you can roll in the acquisition fee.. but, of course, the payment will go up.

Thanks for your input. I think she may have added the 3 year maintenance and wheel/tire protection or something to account for the increased monthly payment. I didn't see that in the leasing paperwork that was photographed and sent.

kymera

The dealer called up and gave numbers on a 36/12k lease.
MSRP: 52,540
Selling: 45,000
Residual: 61%
MF: 0.00119

Payment: 509.97

How is that deal?

Michaell

kymera said:

The dealer called up and gave numbers on a 36/12k lease.
MSRP: 52,540
Selling: 45,000
Residual: 61%
MF: 0.00119

Payment: 509.97

How is that deal?

I get $451/mo before tax with those numbers.

Any money down? What is the net cap cost? If higher than the selling price, find out what's been added.

kymera

Michaell said:

kymera said:

The dealer called up and gave numbers on a 36/12k lease.
MSRP: 52,540
Selling: 45,000
Residual: 61%
MF: 0.00119

Payment: 509.97

How is that deal?

I get $451/mo before tax with those numbers.

Any money down? What is the net cap cost? If higher than the selling price, find out what's been added.

No cap cost reduction. Nothing is being rolled into the lease. I'm thinking that they jacked up the MF and are only saying it is 0.00119.

I will have to ask her to ask him to provide the math he is using to arrive at those numbers.

Michaell

kymera said:

Michaell said:

kymera said:

The dealer called up and gave numbers on a 36/12k lease.
MSRP: 52,540
Selling: 45,000
Residual: 61%
MF: 0.00119

Payment: 509.97

How is that deal?

I get $451/mo before tax with those numbers.

Any money down? What is the net cap cost? If higher than the selling price, find out what's been added.

No cap cost reduction. Nothing is being rolled into the lease. I'm thinking that they jacked up the MF and are only saying it is 0.00119.

I will have to ask her to ask him to provide the math he is using to arrive at those numbers.

That should reveal where the differences are.

bww2000

How are people getting 15% off MSRP ($52k vs $45k)?  Is there big lease $ out there?  Thanks. 

kymera

bww2000 said:

How are people getting 15% off MSRP ($52k vs $45k)?  Is there big lease $ out there?  Thanks. 

Hi bww, this wasn't for me but a friendof mine who knew I just got a good deal on a JGC. My understanding of her deal is that this was a 2015 and she went at the end of the month when they were desperate to meet their numbers. A little haggling and she got to $45k. I think she could have got a little lower, but you're basically arguing over a couple of dollars/month at that point. Better to save the goodwill for any other negotiations that may show up.

I did discover that the increased MF was due to her credit rating. Not quite 700+ so that was the discrepancy.

bww2000

Thanks kymera

john1126

New here, but looking at the C class. Dealer has a number of 2015, all less than 8000 miles, some around 3000 - 4000 miles and prices are low. I am assuming these were courtesy cars. Does MB have lease deals on these types of vehicles. Can't find the answer.

neptune000

New Member---Looking to lease c300 sport, 2015 or 2016, 3yr 12k, valued @54k with options. Live on Long Island, New York. Turning in my 2013 c300. Could use all help I can get! Need numbers, want put put $2500 down and drive away, that's how my first lease was.

Michaell

john1126 said:

New here, but looking at the C class. Dealer has a number of 2015, all less than 8000 miles, some around 3000 - 4000 miles and prices are low. I am assuming these were courtesy cars. Does MB have lease deals on these types of vehicles. Can't find the answer.

If they haven't been titled, they are eligible for the standard MB lease program.

Can get a deal on the selling price, but the residual is also adjusted downward to account for the miles - at .20/mile or so. So, subtract $800 from the calculated residual for a car with 4000 miles on it.

What model, lease term and miles per year are you looking for?

Michaell

neptune000 said:

New Member---Looking to lease c300 sport, 2015 or 2016, 3yr 12k, valued @54k with options. Live on Long Island, New York. Turning in my 2013 c300. Could use all help I can get! Need numbers, want put put $2500 down and drive away, that's how my first lease was.

36/12 numbers:

2015 C300 4Matic - .00119 and 61%
2016 C300 4Matic - .00152 and 62%

neptune000

I don't really understand these, looking for cost of lease, price of car after dealer reduction from MSRP. I would like to know what I should pay after I give dealer 2500 and drive away, includes 1st payment. Thank you, sorry for not understanding all that goes into a lease

Michaell

neptune000 said:

I don't really understand these, looking for cost of lease, price of car after dealer reduction from MSRP. I would like to know what I should pay after I give dealer 2500 and drive away, includes 1st payment. Thank you, sorry for not understanding all that goes into a lease

I can't help you with pricing ... use the tools at the top of the page (make / model / year) to get Edmunds TMV, which is a target you should try to beat.

I would recommend you look at some of the articles here, to get you started:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/

rbirns1

Are there any lease offers for very low miles, like 5k per year?

Michaell

rbirns1 said:

Are there any lease offers for very low miles, like 5k per year?

7500 miles is the lowest allowance available for MB.

bchoiny

First time car buying(+leasing) experience at dealership in my life. After browsing this forum, I am relieved that I told them I would think about the deal at home and walked away today. Seems like they were trying to rip me off?

2015 4matic c300 sedan (location: MA)

diamond white, premium pack 1, front heat, blind assist...
MSRP: 47,895
Discount: 4380
Adjusted Sale Price: 43515

Tax: 2741.5
Tag and Title fee: 163
Documentation fee: 349

Total: 46768.5 (they added tax based on whole price, but I just learned MA doesn't tax whole price!!)

3500 down, 7.5k miles, 36 months: 470.82 monthly
Residual: 30173.85

Didn't get numbers for MF (I have 700-720 credit score)

I was hesitating because it was much higher than I expected. The guy asked for my company name and after few mins he bsed about company discount and brought down price to 439/mo 36mo terms 3500 down. I still didn't like it and wanted copy of quote and 1 week to think about the deal. I was about to leave then his manager came to me. He showed me other c300s that were on demo and offered me 396 /mo for same term. It wasn't in the color (white or dia white) so I declined. he said he could do 420 for the dia white one. I still walked away because I wanted to do research on the price. Glad I did. Also they were requiring $1000 deposit down before they check the real rates. I didn't like that either.

I called other dealership near boston and they said they do 12% off MSRP and $1250 off after that. Based on my calculations I was getting approximately $400 mo with 0 down and $300 mo with 3500 down based on numbers and assumptions from this forum (thanks Michaell and others in here). Is $300 mo (3500 down) or $400 with 0 down possible or is it too theoretical and not practical numbers? Should I aim for these or bit higher for 2015 C300s that has MSRP of ~47000-48000? Clearly, I am not going back to dealership who quote me 420~470 with $3500 down.

(Edit: My last calculation seems to be off or too optimistic. Maybe I should aim for $350 to $360 mo with $3500 down for cars with MSRP 48000?)

nightowl310

Hi. can you give me the October MF and residual for a 2015 and 2016 C300. 24 month and 36 month/7500 miles. Thank you.

kyfdx

nightowl310 said:

Hi. can you give me the October MF and residual for a 2015 and 2016 C300. 24 month and 36 month/7500 miles. Thank you.

2015: .00118 MF and 69%/63% residual
2016: .00152 MF and 70%/64% residual