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--2015 c300 Sport
--2015 c400 4Matic
--2016 c300 Sport
Thanks!
36/10 numbers:
2015 C300 RWD - .00118 and 61%
2015 C400 - standard MF and 60%
2016 C300 RWD - 00152 and 63%
Add 1% for 7500 miles per year.
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2016: .00154 MF and 61%/63% residual
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2016 C300, MSRP $54,995, 36/10
$591+tax=$638, $1176 drive away
they say:
63% residual, 6k discount, 00192 MF
I'm in California
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Net Cap Cost: $51,051
Customer Cash: $1301
Residual: 63%
MF: 00152
MSRP: $55,370 (incl transportation and handling)
payment: $626 incl tax
selling price seems high now. Should I push down? What would be a good price?
thanks for the help!!!!!
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Money Factor & Residual
C300
10k/24
10k/36
12k/24
12k/36
Is there any incentives as well? Since most lots right now are trying to push those 2015s out should I expect a loser deal? Looking to get a 0 out of pocket at $350/month
Many Thanks!
To get to $350/mo, you'll definitely have to go 36 months, and get a big discount on an low-optioned model. Even then, you might not get that low.
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2015 C300 - MSRP $49735
Money factor - 0.00118
Downpayment - $6k and monthly $429 including tax (Ca) for 12K miles
$6k is too much to start a lease - any down payment is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled.
Not a great deal.
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The down payment is basically trade in value of my old car .
Thanks.
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Just from a deal with perspective -
msrp - 49735
cap cost - 45636
residual - 29841
money factor .00118
is this a good price for the car ?
Thanks for the help.
And, use the 'make / model / year' pull downs at the top of the page to link to the Edmunds pricing tools.
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Can you please post the latest lease rates on the c63 S and c63? 10k year / 36 months
Thanks !
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/38171/mercedes-benz/c-class/2016-mercedes-c-class-lease-questions#latest
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C300 15k miles, Custom order
$55690
$48121
no maintenance (ripoff) 2/3 price at my mechanic
$488 plus fees @ 1373
Tax, MF, and base are in monthly.
thank you for your time and help.
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Either .00152 and 60% (RWD) or .00154 and 61% (4Matic)
Deduct .10-.20 per mile from the residual for the extra miles.
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He offered three courtesy vehicles, all 2015 models, all under 5000 miles. One of them is RWD, the other two are 4Matics.
Asking price for the RWD is $30k, the 4Matics are $35k.
Are 2015's still available for lease? I know that demo/courtesy cars do fall under the new category, so that shouldnt be an issue.
What is the MF and Residual for RWD and 4Matics? I think the 4Matics are .00119 MF and $60% (36/12), not sure of the numbers for RWD. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2015 AWD: .00119 MF and 60% residual
Residual will be reduced to account for the current mileage.
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Looks like I should "Deduct .10-.20 per mile from the residual for the extra miles."
And do I need to know the MSRP?
So a car that has 5000 miles would have the residual lowered by $1000.
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They also mentioned that the current miles would not count against me, and that I could bring the car back with 36k + whatever the mileage was at the time of sale without additional mileage fees. I disagreed, but they said that it would be in writing.
Here was the result (for FL):
MSRP: $46800
Sales Price: $34603
Mileage: 4300
MF: .00164 (sales manager told me he marked it up from .00119)
Residual: 60%
Doc: $300
Lic+Reg: $400
Aquisition: $750
My total came to $340/month with taxes included. Drive off around $1100 (first month, other upfront fees).
Using the exact same numbers in their system, they had $379/month.
I did not move forward with the lease because there was, what I felt, something fishy going on...Can anyone give me an idea why the $40 difference per month between my numbers and theirs? Am I doing something wrong or are they fudging the numbers somewhere and not telling me?
If I add $795 acquisition fee to the selling price, and reduce the 60% residual by $0.20/mile, and use their marked up money factor, I get $329/mo.+tax.
You don't say which state, but if I assume 7% tax, that gives me about $352/mo. That's still quite a bit off, from their number. But, I'm guessing that the residual reduction is $0.20/mile. If it's more or less than that, then that changes the calculation.
But, it's easy to clear up. Tell them you want to know all the numbers and to please send a screen shot of the computer, so you can see the exact adjusted CAP cost and the exact residual.
Another thing to consider. Don't step over dollars to pick up dimes. Yes, they are marking up the money factor, but they are also massively discounting the vehicle. You have to look at the total cost. $1100 upfront and $379/mo. is dirt cheap to lease a $47K MSRP vehicle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't seek clarity, or even to bargain a little lower, if possible, but don't let a really good deal get away.
Be ready to answer, if they ask the question, "What will it take to make a deal". You might save another $10-$15 per month, and get the car you want.
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So they are adding around $2000 in fees on top of the sales price? I'll need to ask/see what that is. Am I able to get this removed or are those fees sometimes non-negotiable?
You can ask for whatever you want. No matter how you run the numbers, they may feel that another buyer will give them what they are asking for the vehicle. (and, they are probably right).
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I think it ended up being a pretty good deal (even though I let the dealer pocket some extra money)
If the dealer didn't make any money they wouldn't be open.
Enjoy the new C-class
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2015 CLA 250 FWD and AWD
2016 CLA 250 4MATIC
2015 C300 4MATIC
I am considering demo/loaners to keep a low payment, so besides the adjusted residual, I wasn't sure if the MF also changed for Mercedes.
Thank you
CLA questions can be posted here:
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/37562/mercedes-benz/cla-class/2016-mercedes-benz-cla-class-lease-questions#latest
http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/32229/mercedes-benz/cla-class/2015-mercedes-benz-cla-class-lease-questions#latest
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Thank you!
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