2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

beatlefred

One dealership in the New York City area gave me this quote on a brand new '05 Accord, EX with leather, 4 dr, 4 cyl, automatic, desert mist metallic color, no other options, no extended warranty. I would be buying, not leasing (and paying in full at time of purchase).

Price is $400 invoice which comes out to $23,096 (no freight charge). Tax is: $1992.03 DMV fees are: $45 Doc fee, $10 Inspection, $12.50 tire tax, and about $25 to register with plates from
my old car.

Grand Total: ~ $25, 155.53

Can anyone please help me out with their opinion on this offer, should I take it, or is there better?

odyssey1

I think there has got to be better. I think carsdirect has a better price. I'm looking at the same car, but with NAVI for $23,824 +TTL. This took a lot of negotiating with different dealers, but NAVI should be about $2000 more.

Everyone, please keep posting their prices, it helps so much!!

richards38

There might be better deals, but not by much. I got $238 over invoice last year when I bought an early 2004 EX-L AT sedan (no nav).

That was in San Francisco which is another very expensive place to buy just about everything.

If the dealer is well regarded and convenient, you should probably take that deal if it seems that the dealer really won't go lower.

It's a fair price for a great car and if it's the model and color that you want, why split hairs for what will likely be a very small dollar amount?.....Richard

wellhall

Martin Honda in Manhattan deals straight, but not with lowest prices. You might want to check Honda of New Rochelle, where I got a decent price. The dealer in Greenwich, CT, was willing to match the HofNR price, but why go the extra distance? The dealer in Tarrytown seemed very nice, too, though I didn't discuss price with him since he didn't have what I wanted. I personally was disimpressed with the Honda dealers in the Bronx and Queens, and I didn't think Brooklyn would be much better, though I didn't actually go there, so that part's not based on actual dealings.
   But I think that if you know exactly what you want, have a realistic idea of a good price to pay and are willing to go someplace else if they won't meet your price, then start walking out the door with no intention of coming back when they say they can't go that low, you'll find that they'll call you back with a lower price. If three dealers in a row let you go, you'll know the price you want is probably a bit too low.
   I wonder about the effect of color on price. Silver and beige are the two most popular colors, I was told, so there may be less incentive to reduce prices on those, as there are lots of folks willing to buy them. Green, blue and red are less in demand (somewhere around 5 to 7% of all Accords sold, I heard -- anyone know if that's true?), so a dealer may be more willing to cut a price on one of those. Not sure where the grey and black fit in.

beatlefred

I live in Queens, so the nearest Honda dealers to me are Paragon in Woodside, and the place in Jamaica. There are also places on Long Island such as PS Honda in Manhasset.

Are the '05 Accords actually on the lots?, I ask because I havent seen any '05's advertised in the paper yet.

As for color, Its been difficult for me to choose. I think its best to pick the one that you feel you'd like the most in the long run (as opposed to a color that you might initially find appealing, but will later grow tired of). I think the dilemna is: you have to choose not just the exterior color, but also which interior color you like- for example, the black leather looks very nice in the Accord brochure, but its only available if you buy the silver exterior. Silver is alright, but I think in the long run, beige (desert mist, is the most pleasant choice)- but if you choose that, you then must accept the ivory color interior. I was considering Black as my other choice, which also comes in only ivory interior.

Well...., I'll see how things go. Ive never owned a brand new car, so I dont have any experience dealing with dealerships, and I just find it hard to trust them, when the impression seems to be that they are out to squeeze every last dollar from you.

I have an '87 Accord DX that Ive been driving for the past 9 years, and I am very fond of the car. Quite honestly, I think the 3rd gen 86-89 Accords look pretty cool with the flip-up headlights, and they certainly were built to last (Mine has 210k miles). When I see the new Accords, I dunno.....- soemtimes I think they look good, and other times that bubble shape turns me off.

The only drawback to my '87 Accord is that since its a DX, it has a carburetor, and last winter, the carb gave me some problems- going into fast idle mode, stalling out etc...- and Ive learned that most car mechanics nowadays just dont want to deal with trying to fix carburetor issues- apparently adjusting a Honda carburetor and the float valve is like doing delicate brain surgery.

I'll see how my '87 behaves when the weather gets colder, if it holds up ok, I suppose I can just keep it for a while longer - Ive noticed there are alot less of them seen out on the road now- and in a way I like it - not to have the same car that everyone else drives- like those '98-'02 Accords which are eyeseores.

My only reason for getting the EX is the desire for leather seats. I was wondering- what are the drawbacks to leather seats? Is it worth spending the extra $on, compared to an LX?

rperrom

Hi,

Where did you get that price for the car? (23,824).This is my first time buying a car and I was interesting in the Honda ex-l with navi. I was thinking of getting the 2004 version but I would definitely spring for the 2005 at that price.
Thanks for your help.

viet

4678 of 5609 Re: The bidding war begins [danwashdc #4427] by boxlaxman May 25, 2004 (6:56 am)

That looks like a great price. I just signed for the following in Northern VA:

Accord EX V6 w/NAV=$24,991.85
Destination=$490.00
Processing fee=$289.00
Taxes=$824.67
Tags=$39.50
TOTAL=$26,635.02

Look like you beat me by a bit as there is a $2000 retail difference on the Nav vs. non-Nav. I shopped big time to get this but I guess the Navs are getting harder to get as there was about a 10:1 ratio of non-Navs to Navs on the lot.

Congrats

Hi Boxlaxman,

You got a great deal. It is cheap. BTW, is it a 2005 EX V6?

BobsGT235

I am interested in an 05 Coupe EX V6 with the navigation system. I know both models msrp for the same price but does anyone know if dealers are charging more for the 6 speed manual trans. cars since Honda doesn't produce many of them?
I have one dealer down to $26825 on an auto trans. car with the nav.

mb-s65

The difference is clear, the extra $1300 or so is well worth it

tonyb

hi all,just wondering if i got a great deal or what ....2005 v6 ,no extra , 24,653+ ttl ,,drive out price 26,682 + lifetime oil and tire change,,,does that sound right,,,lifetime tire,, are they crazy are its just me misunderstanding,,that what he wrote...any comment is helpful...its 25 dollar over invoice....thinking of buying it this week

richards38

With the EX-L you get more than leather alone.

There's also the 8 way electric driver's seat, XM radio, dual zone automatic temperature control, and heated front seats.

The EX-L is a "near luxury" car--until you buy gasoline--then it's an economy car ;-).....Richard

murray53

Good luck with your new Accord. Like you I have found that the Accord does not feel isolated from the road like the Camry. It's amazing how dealers can offer you a low price and try to screw you by charging exorbitant registration fees and using other scams such as ADM and advertising fees to cheat you out of your money. I wish that NY would get with it and outlaw all that garbage so that we can walk into a car dealership with reasonable confidence that we won't be cheated. I haven't driven the current generation Accord but I agree that for most normal uses the 4-cyl is adequate and can be a lot less expensive to run (better mpg, only one exhaust system to replace, less weight, etc). I would only buy the V6 if I regularly used the car with a full load of passengers with the A/C on.

kyfdx

That is a good price for the car...

Take the whole lifetime oil change and tire replacement with a grain of salt... It is just a marketing tool for the dealer, and if it works out...great.. but, the "rules" you have to follow will generally not be worth complying with to obtain the "free" services.

The free oil changes are usually fairly easy to take advantage of... The tire thing.. usually not.

regards,
kyfdx

zzvelik

2004 Accord DX w/Auto & factory A/C for $15.5k plus tax/license/docs in LA County. A 2004 LX would've cost an extra $1.8k which isn't worth it IMO since I was able to get factory air and can easily add rear speakers myself.

richards38

The Accord DX is an excellent car but I question whether it has "factory air"--yes it's a Honda unit but I think the dealer installs it in the DX. The LX and EX Accords have A/C standard from the factory.

Another difference is that the DX does not have a rear stabilizer bar, so the car probably handles somewhat differently from the LX and EX Accords. How much this matters I really don't know.

In any event, you do have a very good car--drive it in good health.....Richard

kwong

Finally, I think I got a good deal on 04 Accord LX w/Auto, I got to choose the color that I want. I chose the color graphite with grey int. The buying experience is very easy and no hassle going back and forth, All I have to do is make a phone call. I called the dealership up and told them that I got a price from another dealership can sell for $17100 incl. destination charge. If you guys can match it or better. I will come down to buy it. They asked for my contact numbers and will call me back in 10 minutes. I got a call within 5 minutes. They able to sell it for $17090. Wow! I got to choose the color too.

Paid- $ 18259.50

Purchase price- $17090 incl. Dest charge.
Mass. Tax 5%- $854.50
Registration Fee- $86
Document Fee - $229
Total $18259.50

I hope this can help some 04 bargain hunters out there.

Kirstie_H

Congratulations!!
If you can share the name of the dealership (no salespeople's names), that would help other shoppers in the Boston area.

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

zzvelik

According to the dealer's web site, this is the air conditioning which was installed in the DX:

Air Conditioner
Reduces interior allergens. Capable of filtering virtually all particulate matter eight microns (pollen size) and above.

It looks and operates in the same manner as in the other models. In regards to the stabilizer bar, I believe the mounting holes are available to mount the stabilizer bars (which can be picked up from a junk yard for a nominal amount). In any case, I don't plan on testing the car's limits.

Thanks for the reminder about the stabilizer bars.

mbedono

How many miles on this car's odometer? Same question for zzvelik..how many miles on this '04 DX?

zzvelik

Roughly 20 miles on the odometer.

tjtj

Just left a dealership where they offered this in writing. Worth doing??
2004 EX auto in green; no added options. 290 miles on it.
After a $3000+ "discount":
sales price=19894
fees, plates, and sales taxes run it up to
$21353.69 "drive out price"
Texas
quick advice needed please!!!

mike_e

I just leased a new 2005 Honda Accord EX V6 (automatic, no navigation) from a dealership in Maryland. Below is what I paid:

$2000 downpayment.
$355 per month for 36 months.

This comes to a total of $14,780.00 for a 3 year lease. Can anybody tell me if this is a good deal or not.

Thanks for replying.
Mike_E

zzvelik

FYI: The basic DX with a MT and no A/C is now going for $13,433 at a well known auto web site. Not a bad price for a roomy reliable car for those who don't need A/C and can drive a stick.

mike_e

Well being a novice, I thought new cars have fixed prices, but that is absolutely not the case. I went to 3 Honda dealerships and they all had widely varying prices for the same car. One said $525 a month, the other said $400 a month while the third said $355 a month and I leased from the third.

If you or anybody has reson to believe that this is not a good deal, just say it. I have seen several instances in this board where people state what they paid for their new cars. It will give other readers an idea of what to expect.

I don't know how to challenge your theory of "low self esteem" because it sounds so Freudian. As you know Pyschologists of the Freudian extraction are hard to pin down primarily because they ascribe every cause to the sub-conscious.

bd21

Since you are a novice, here is some advice. Don't post the same thing numerous times (you have posted the exact post 3 times on two different boards). This will usually result in people ignoring your post. The best way to get good responses is to state your deal clearly, which you did. Then ask if anyone has been successful at leasing one for less. Asking if you could have gotten a better deal after the fact, merely sets you up for all the feedback that will just confirm your leading question. Try asking before, so you can gage your deal. People will always have better deals, so just enjoy the car. I enjoyed your Freudian comment. It shows you have a good since of humor. Now if we could just work on that low self esteem thing .

kwong

Brought it from:

Honda North
Danvers, Ma

kwong

The odometer read at 11 miles.

mike_e

Well I had to re-post my question when I felt I posted it in the wrong section. By the way it was posted twice not three times.

Despite your assertion that "people will always have better deals", there must be a minimum below which no car dealer will sell. If you know it let the world know. I'm beginning to suspect that you are a car dealer or something of that nature. In that case you may not want future buyers to know the absolute minimum price of the car in question. Curiosly, your two replies ignored the central issue which was stated in my original question.

edscissors172

Wow, great deal you got, I just purchased my 2005 Accord EX-L 4 cylinder for 22,696 including registration fees and destination and handling. With sales tax(here in NYC it's 8.62%)everything came out to $24,653. I love the car though, here in NYC it's hard to negotiate any more, I might not have gotten the best deal available but I am very happy with my purchase, even if I paid a few extra dollars.

mcgirl0730

I see a lot of EX's on the road and a lot of people on this board have one. I am just wondering...do all EX models have leather interior? I guess a lot of people prefer the EX over the LX.

kyfdx

EX-V6 models have leather standard..

EX 4-cylinder models have cloth standard.. You have to get the EX-L model for leather in the 4-cylinder..

EX also has moonroof and alloy wheels, which the LX does not.

mcgirl0730

I don't like leather (too hot in the summer) and moonroof, but I like alloy wheels. So I will have to get an LX V6 and have after market rims installed.

kyfdx

I always say.. get what you want.. but, resale will be pretty crappy on an LX-V6.. Most people aren't like you.. they want all the goodies, especially if they are paying extra for the V-6. Nothing wrong with buying an LX-V6, but you should know going in.. If you keep the car a long time, it won't matter much, but if you turn them over quickly, you will take a hit on re-sale..

regards,
kyfdx

dude248

Hi Forum,

  I got a quote for '05 Accord EX V6 w/o Nav -
  Price $26,300 Drive out (Houston),
  Is this a good price, please suggest so that i
  can go for it...

Thanks

mbedono

If you bought an Accord V6 and you don't live in the Rocky Mts. or someplace out west where you can regularly open up the throttle to 80 mph and above. I'm afraid you're just another consumer who has fallen prey to the fallacy that more is 'better'. The Accord 4 cylinder has way more than enough power available for any conceivable driving situation. In addition, any mechanic with more than a few years in the business will tell you that 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder engines are inherently more prone to failure and malfunctions.

kyfdx

I guess it depends on how much you enjoy driving.. We've had three different 4-cylinder Accords and they were fine for us.. But, I would have enjoyed a six-cylinder that much more..

And 80MPH has nothing to do with it.. The 4-cylinder will easily do over 100 MPH.. It is the getting from 0-60, where the V-6 will shine..

And Honda V-6s? Bulletproof.

You might as well say that a sunroof is a waste of money... after all, you can always roll down the window...

CD player? What was wrong with 8-tracks? That is all you will ever need.

Porsche 911? What is the point when you can drive an Echo and still get there on time?

Different strokes for different folks.

mbedono

'And 80MPH has nothing to do with it.. The 4-cylinder will easily do over 100 MPH.. It is the getting from 0-60, where the V-6 will shine..'

 The 4 cyl will definitely do 100+but who in their right minds would regulalrly push the 4 to those limits? As for getting to 0-60, it's a 2 or 2.5 second advantage for the 6. Very important if you're regularly employed as a get-a-way driver for bankrobbers.

'And Honda V-6s? Bulletproof.'

You need to read the literature. The V6's are prone to consistent malfunctions at a much higher rate than the 4's. If Porsche made a 4 cylinder model, many people would buy one. The point is Honda already makes the best 4 cylinder in the business.

kyfdx

I don't have to read the literature.. I've owned eight Honda/Acuras... 4 and 6 cylinder models and a Porsche...

Not one of Honda's V-6 engines has ever had "consistent malfunctions".

Porsche has made many 4-cylinder models..
912, 914, 924, 944, 968.. They quit making every one of them because the market demanded six-cylinders.

Honda does make the best 4-cylinders in the business.... but, that doesn't mean everybody should drive one... or never aspire to anything more enjoyable. There is a reason the car magazines publish the 0-60 times.. (hint: it isn't for bank robbers).

I can get all my protein from a can of tuna.. but, sometimes, I like to have a big ribeye on the grill.

regards,
kyfdx

edscissors172

What is the recommended time that the manufacturer says about having your first oil change? I know that the standard is every 3,000 miles or 3 months which ever is first. But I looked at my manual and it says 10,000 miles, am I making a mistake? I just purchased my 05 Accord EX-L 4 cylinder yesterday and would like to know what honda recommends, because my dealer said 3,000 miles, but I don't know how knowledgeable the sales person is.

ailmar

I'm in the south Florida area and September was a terrible month for car dealers - had 2 major hurricanes that pretty muched wiped out car sales for 2 complete weekends so all the dealers are sale-happy especially with the 2004 models....

I purchased a new 2004 V6-EX (no navi) and had a rear spoiler included for a final out the door price of $25,000...don't know if that's the best deal possible but I assure you, much haggling took place at a few different dealers as well as internet quotes and this was the lowest of the lows.

For those who say the 4-cylinder is good enough...the drive of the 6-cyl is MUCH nicer.
Granted, I've test driven better 6-cyl's but for a MUCH higher price.
My past cars have been Audi's ('96 A4, '02 A4 - both 4cyl with turbo) and Acura ('04 TSX - 4cyl) and this Accord has a really good drive plus all the bells/whistles of the other cars for a much more affordable price...and the reliability can't be beat!

kyfdx

Honda recommends 10K for "normal" service and 5K for "severe" service.. Those definitions are available in your manual.. Your dealer recommends 3K, because he makes more money that way, and people are conditioned to change their oil that often.

Personally, I do oil changes every 5K, but stick with the 10K service interval for everything else.

regards,
kyfdx

ailmar

I know of several mechanics that say you shouldn't wait till 10,000 miles (no matter what kind of engine you have). One Acura mechanic says he works on the cars when they come in for their 10K-mile oil change and the engines are SUPER dirty!!!!
On average every 3.5K to 5K-mile maximum on newer cars is fine for most drivers, unless you drive under extreme conditions then they say every 3K miles will be safer.
I dunno, not a mechanic but I figure it can't hurt if you do it more often vs waiting 10,000 miles!

Kirstie_H

If you do a quick search on the key word "oil," you'll find several topics in which the interval question is being discussed. Let's reserve this topic for pricing/purchasing questions and answers. Thanks!

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

kyfdx

Extra oil changes can't hurt..

But, things change.. BMWs have 15K or one year between scheduled oil changes.. Of course, that won't keep Jiffy Lube in business...

Car manufacturers, Honda included, have been recommending 7500 mile intervals for 20 years or more... I doubt they would recommend something that would harm their product. What reasoning would cause them to increase this to 10K miles, if it were unsafe or inadvisable?

regards,
kyfdx

Oops.. sorry!!.. I'm a slow typer.

mbedono

I don't have to read the literature.. I've owned eight Honda/Acuras... 4 and 6 cylinder models and a Porsche...'

  Read the literature, the 6 cylinder Honda engines have suffered from a much higher incidence of problems than the 4's. This is common knowledge. The recent transmission recalls of '03's and '04's are just the latest in a whole string of problems affecting the v6. In 01 and 02 there were widespread ignition failures.

richards38

Just to make you feel good, your price was almost exactly the same as what I paid for an '04 Accord EX-L (no nav) in late August, 2003, just after the '04s were available.

I did my homework (with the help of this website) and it was a very good deal at that time--especially in costly San Francisco.

You bought a superb car at a very favorable price. If/when you see better deals, they won't be significantly better, and you'd probably have to go to an inconvenient dealer to save just a few dollars.

Note also if you continue viewing this site that other deals will seem to be better as the months roll on; however, someone buying an '05 in Feb. or March, '06 will pay perhaps $600 to $800 less as should be expected for a car that will be new for only 6 months. You'll have a full model year before your car is one model year old.

Enjoy your deal and your car....Richard

kyfdx

Transmissions and ignition failures have nothing to do with engines...

The '01 4-cyl Accords also had transmission problems.. They gave them extended warranties and the one I had needed a new transmission at 18K miles.. Still.. no engine problems.

Exactly what literature shows Honda V-6 engine problems?

Kirstie_H

Guys, the off-topic posts really aren't appropriate in the pricing discussion. Move elsewhere.

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

mcgirl0730

Well, all I can do now is gripe about not getting an Accord. I got so fixated on the Camry and didn't do a research on the Accord. I just realized that I could have bought an Accord for the same price and with more power. Oh well...lesson learned.

bavenda

I am interested in an 05 LX because I want the curtain (not side) air bags. I was offered a car at invoice. Is that fair? What is the target price for a 05 LX? (Edmunds does not list an 05 yet)