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Absolutely! As I posted a few days ago, 'Unless you're employed as a get-a-way driver for a gang of bank robbers' the 4 is way more than adequate for every driving scenario. But a heck of a lot of people would be thrown out of work if the 'sucker' product was not available.
Seriously, the "prices paid" are sometimes...well...a bit over the top.
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
___PZEV stands for “Partial Zero Emission”, not hybrid. Not only does it have a SULEV emission rating (Super Ultra Low Emissions), it has vapor sealing and recovery technology built in making it one of the cleanest cars you can buy today other then a BEV run entirely off renewables or maybe a CNG based automobile. PZEV’s are available in California, New York, Vermont, Maine, or Massachusetts as well as some states bordering those listed. The Accord I4 can be purchased in PZEV format for just $135.00 more over and above the std. LEV-II rated Accord I4 IIRC and it is worth far more then this pittance by any measure.
___As for the V6 vs. I4, the I4 is not only powerful enough, it can return far superior mileage vs. the V6. Std. Civic’s (especially older ones) are not fast cars in the least with many pushing > 11 seconds to 60. The 03 - 05 Accord I4 is quite a huge step up in performance if you haven’t driven one for yourself.
___I also spend quite a bit of time in the car (194 miles/day) and my own daily commuter has a 67 HP ICE! It does pretty good on the mileage front if I do say so myself ;-)
PS: I am a Kerry supporter even though I think his Foreign Policy is out to lunch as well :-(
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___2000 Honda Insight 5-speed #203 - 92.5 lmpg
___No mistake but it was not for an 05. There are no rebates on the 05’s and the invoice price was increased more then just a few hundred on top of the 04’s. The $22,500 deal for a brand new 04 EX-L sedan w/ Auto and NAVI including the $1,000 factory to dealer rebate as posted a few pages back. I was offered this below invoice deal just 3 weeks ago at Rosen Honda in Gurnee, IL.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___2000 Honda Insight 5-speed #203 - 92.5 lmpg
for a 2005?
(so far the lowest I got for a 2005 Accord EX AT V-6 is 24,338) I want to buy this w/e!!
That price is about $700 over invoice list.
___A Boston area Honda dealership “Herb Chambers Honda” has (1) new 04 Accord sedan I4 EX-L w/ NAVI in PZEV format for $22,600 for those still looking Black w/ Black interior. The Internet salesperson was the contact who I spoke with today.
___Good Luck
___Wayne R. Gerdes
___2000 Honda Insight 5-speed #203 - 92.5 lmpg
An '04 EX might have them (unlikely, though), and the '04 LX definitely does NOT have side curtains.
So if you decide to buy an LX, get an '05 because all 2005 Accords have side curtains standard.......Richard
People who drive both the 4 and the V6 and choose the V6 are doing what they should do to be happy.
People who assume that the 4 is inadequate without test driving it are making a mistake in my opinion......Richard
"People who assume that the 4 is inadequate without test driving it are making a mistake in my opinion."
With a single adult passenger sitting on the passenger side, I notice that my 4-cylinder Accord 03 LX MT struggles. This Accord is heavy and weak that even an old Dogde Neon can outrun it from a stop light.
ramida
Are you sure this is a sedan and not a coupe?. Black sedans only come with ivory interior.
"With a single adult passenger sitting on the passenger side, I notice that my 4-cylinder Accord 03 LX MT struggles. This Accord is heavy and weak that even an old Dogde Neon can outrun it from a stop light."
I love my 5-speed manual 04 EX-L. It still has plenty of power with myself, my son, and my husband in it. Same thing goes with the 03 EX-L coupe I had and the 2004 EX-L sedan automatic that we had. The only Dodge Neon I can see that would outrun the Accord 5-speed manual (if someone with experience was driving it) would be a SRT4 with 200+ HP.
is the 24338 with or w/o NAV? That's about invoice price with NAV
This is the first time I have EVER heard this from anyone.
If it is really "struggling", something is either wrong with your car or you to change your driving habits or shift points!
inv. price is 24,539 b4 destination
consumer rpts. wholesale is 24,253-
we ended up paying 24, 238-
Ralph
Coleen, what state? That was a good deal!!
I just purchased a 2005 Accord LX automatic for $18600 including destination. The TTL is all extra. I am located in Massachusetts. A 2004 LX should be around $17100 to $17400.
Let me know if you are in or around the mass area.
2005 Accord V-6 w/Nav and every bell and whistle (door guards, all weather mats, pinstripe, spoiler, wheel locks, mud guards etc) Price=27,275 + title/taxes/fees
Let me know. Thanks a lot.
All the charges such as Tax, Title and registration was extra.
Here is what I ended up buying: a 2005 LX-V6, AT transmission, for $21315 (incl. dest. charge) +$179 bogus conveyance fee (I couldn't get the sales rep to budge) + tax. From what I read, my cost ranged from $100 below invoice to $700 below invoice. I paid $3k below sticker price.
Does this seem like a good price to everyone??
I tend to drive my cars into the ground, so I wasn't concerned about buying an EX for better resale value.
I asked about the Accord Hybrid, but it's not coming out until December. Waiting until then was not an option for me as I am currently driving on 3 cyl's!
You sure spend a lot of time in the car- 194 mi/day!! Whew!
Let me know what you think. And thanks for all the helpful info.
GoBush04
Ralph
So, we in California pay $50 for these fees at all dealers. Of course, dealers will try to pack the price with overpriced and mostly useless dealer-installed options (window etching of vin #, pin stripes, mud flaps, door and wheel edge guards, truck lid wingthings, etc.)
Some people in this discussion group show "document fees" of up to $400 where there's no restriction. In those cases, the deal should be bargained down to the point where, after the non-negotiable doc fee is added, the final, pre-tax/license price is fair.
Anything the dealer collects from the buyer and does not remit to the the state or other entity is revenue for the dealer.......Richard
You would also get the full 3-year new car warranty instead of the remainder of the factory warranty coverage on the used car.
Our '01 Accord was rear-ended to the tune of $9K in September of '01... It never showed up on Carfax..
regards,
kyfdx
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