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First : thanks to posters on this forum who helped a lot (especially 3c3, who referred me to AutoWest Honda in Freemont).
I got a no hassle, no haggle, outstanding price from AutoWest Honda. Requested a quote on their website last night, had an email response by 8.30 am this morning. The buying process was a breeze (in at noon, did a test drive, bought the car, completed paperwork, out by 1.30, no hassels). I would recomment these guys to anybody.
I got a 2005 EX-L, Auto, 4-cylinder for 21596 (+ 45doc fee, 5 tire fee, 1785 tax, 196 license - total 23627 out the door). A great price based on other posts in this focum - and 300 dollars lower than the quote I got from any other dealer (with absolutely no haggling, no gimmicks). I loved the buying process - and I love this car !!
The internet department at South Bay Honda was also very good in their responsiveness (and their price was close), but AutoWest was the best price and a simply great buying experience.
As for the car : its a Silver EX-L, black leather interior. Drives like a charm, handled great on the way home. I love this car already !
I am now off this forum - see you on that "other" forum where they are discussing when to do the first oil change ;-)).
Sunil
This is my first post on this forum.
Has anyone had any experience with Honda dealers in WA? Any recommendations? (Bellevue? Kirkland? Renton...)
I was planning on going for the 05 Accord LX Auto..But some of the posts I've been reading is amazing. If i can land an 05 Accord EX-L in the 21K-ish range I'm sold
Anyone gotten good prices with Honda dealers in WA
Thanks
Now I have a question about extended warranties. I rejected this at the dealer yesterday (I was not prepared, and I know extended warranties can be purchased anytime in the first three years, so there is no rush to make a quick decision at the dealer). I have several questions.
1. Is it worth buying an extended warranty ? Given it is a Honda, I am not worried about the PowerTrain at all. But these cars have a lot of electronics. How reliable are things like the CD-changer, climate control, power windows, etc ? Is it buying the extended warranty to make sure these components are covered ? Or is it not worth the cost ?
2. HondaCare versus other extended warranties : If buying an extended warranty, is HondaCare the way to go ? Or are any of the after-market warranties worth considering ?
3. Cost. I found a previous post in this forum about online HondaCare pricing(http://www.curryhondacare.com/index.cfm ). I went to this web-site, and they are running a special discount of $90 until Dec 31 (you get it in your email if you sign up on their web site). With this discount, a 7-year, 100K, 0-deductible extended warranty is 1020-90 = $930 (960-90 = 870 if you want a $50 deductible). Does this sound like a good price ? Can you really buy the extended warranty on-line from a dealer in Chicago and use it in California with no hassels ?? Any positive/negative experiences from people who have purchased extended warranties on-line ?
Sunil
Hennessy Honda also offered a 7/100 extended warranty with $50 deductable for $715. Even though it was a good deal on an extended warranty, I declined it.
$21446. After TTl $ 23016 ( Processing $279, Destination Charge $515). So, thats the cheapest quote I got in VaA.
My reasoning is that problem items like brake, clutch and suspension components will be nearly impossible to get covered. Much of the expensive stuff I need to worry about is most likely to be a problem well after 100,000 miles anyway. Also, between myself, independent repair shops, and internet parts ordering, I'm betting that handling on my own any unexpected repairs between 36,000 and 100,000 miles will be cheaper than buying a warranty and paying deductables.
For example, a complete EX radio/CD changer assembly retails for a whopping $2,200. But these are readily available on E-bay for only $100-200.
Granted, if the engine or transmission blows up between 36,000 and 100,000 miles, then I'll have been very wrong. But it won't be the end of the world even if it happens and it's also very unlikely.
Also, I've got 36,000 miles with this particular car, and the shared experiences of thousands of other Honda owners, to warn me in ample time to buy an extended warranty before the factory warranty runs out - IF there seems to be reason to worry. However, nothing I've read to date leads me to believe that my position is one of high risk.
Had to wait for 2hours since the car was not totally ready when the paperwork was done. But I drove out of the dealership with only 5.5 miles on the odometer. I would suggest anybody from the SF bay area to check them out first before other dealership.
My '04 EX-L is also silver with black interior. Yes, they are EVERYWHERE--no exclusivity, but a good color choice for a classy interior and a color that looks good between infrequent washes.
Be sure to try the XM radio.
Drive your new Accord in good health.....Richard
Happy driving!
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We are trying to figure out if $6,500 was a resonable offer from Planet Honda for the trade in. According to Kelly Blue book, the trade in price for the car was approx. $8,500 and acording to Consumer Report, the trade in price was approx. $7,500.
Also, our buying experience was horrible. Not only did we get stuck with a sales rep that did not know (nor care) about what he was doing. We ended up negotiating with a sales manager who was condensending and BS'd at every opportunity. We believe that we drove a fairly hard bargin on the deal and only when threatened to walked out did he change his mind and gave us what we were looking for (the EX for $24,000, trade in on the old car (was looking for $8,500 but settled for $6,500) less $5,000 down with financing the remainder at 1.9%). Also, it took us six hours from the time walked in to the time we drove out. I've purchased my two previous Honda's at Planet Honda and never had such an experience. Honestly speaking it was my third and last car from Planet Honda.
That said, there is no excuse for poor treatment or a condensending attitude.
Your 99 LX V-6 Accord isn't a real hot seller either new or used. Very few of these are sold, in fact, in nine years I think I may have sold maybe three of these.
The fact it was in a major (your words) accident to the point the frame was bent REALLY drops it's value as well.
If they don't offer enough and talk about how bad your car is, walk, don't talk. They win every time because they're skilled at smoozing the customer into complacency and into feeling their trade is worth nothing.
Standard procedure in some stores.
Now they even have the evidence you might have used for a claim against them for diminished value by not repairing your old car or with the insurance company to correctly repair it.
Did they offer to correct the job in the repair shop to increase your trade value?
I apologize if I've been too direct.
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It's always wise to have all your options lined up before negotiating the final deal. Get competitive quotes on trade-in, finacing, warranty, options, and purchase price before hashing out a deal on a car. Leave any base uncovered and that's where the salesman will go trying to make more money on the sale - it's his job.
But, yes, it is a salesperson's job to maximize profit. Nothing wrong with that. Still, that store has to be competitive or the business will be lost.
As far as trades go, the shopper can certainly keep it and sell it themselves if they don't like what is offered. Quite often, I will suggest they do just that. I don't like to lose a sale over a trade in.
But what are the real pros and cons of the Navi option, and what's a good deal on an '05-AT Coupe w/Navi in the Dallas area?
Also how well does the paint hold up on a Honda?
I think it's common for dealers to offer below the wholesale auction amount on a trade-in because an auction is the car's next stop anyway. If the vehicle isn't a good candidate for their affiliated used car lots, off to the auction it goes.
I pushed a dog of an old car on a dealer once and it was an odd-ball on their used lot for weeks. My guess was that, had they auctioned it, they'd have been upside down in it and so they kept it around hoping to get lucky selling it themselves.
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Stay away from extended warranties. I've bought one many years ago for a '89 Accord DX and never used it. It is just another way to profit on somehing that is useless. They'll confuse you with numbers and make it sound like it is the next best thing and that you can't do w/out. You can do without an extended warranty. Besides that, it's a Honda.
Not "useless" if something breaks.
There are certain limitations with build-in Navi. For example, the map DVD is not updated as frequently as stand-alone systems. Currently the Honda 2004 DVD is still not shipping. In the San Francisco Bay area, the Honda DVD contains several errors on the I-680/I-80/I-580 exchanges near Emeryville and Vallejo. You are stuck with buying the Honda update DVD. The Honda system also takes the longest to lock on satellite signals; on average about 30 seconds, twice as long as the Nissan and Lexus systems.
Other than these minor complaints, I really cannot find any cons of the Navi. So if it is on you list of gadgets, by all means get it.
Thanks a million. I think I'll get it!
So the odds are that you will not collect (in claims) more than you paid for the warranty.
Unless you are somehow comforted by the idea of being covered (which seems like a weak argument), there is no logical reason to buy these warranties.
By comparison, Nashville-area "target" prices are about $750 over invoice.
Thanks!
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BTW - my dealer offered me mud-guards + wheel-locks for $100. I rejected him (mostly because I was so set on getting in & out with a good price I did not want to even think about adding anything else). In retrospect, I should have gone for these (seems like a great price on reflection). Oh well - there is always the aftermarket...
Sunil
Extended warranty: Think of it like you would insurance. I hate writing my check out every month for car...health...life... etc. But when the day comes that I need it, I will not give a second thought to those checks I wrote. The same way with extended warranties. You may never need them, and wish you hadn't bought it, but you may not buy it and regret that decision. I always buy extended warranties. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I don't.
A better argument against extended warranties is the poor cost/benefit ratio of this insurance. Buyer's pay $1,000 for a few thousand dollars of coverage that expires before it's mostly likely to be needed (after 100,000 miles).
With auto insurance, buyer's pay $1,000 a year for $100,000 or more in coverage - a vastly higher cost/benefit ratio.
Again just my 2 cents worth....
Today's shop labor rates can approach or exceed 100.00 per hour! One major repair and you will be very happy you bought a warranty!
Second, this is personal. How much do you like risk? The risk of a repair exists for everyone. If that makes you nervous, OR if you can't afford a surprise sudden expense (but you could, for example, finance the ext warranty and "smooth out" the payments) then you might personally have more incentive to buy it.
Third, averages work when you're looking at Honda. You only own one car. You don't get to average out the risks. Every extended warranty owner will get an average of $700 (for example) back, but some will get $0, and some will get $3000. What risk are you trying to protect yourself from?
Figure that out, then decide. (IMHO & YMMV :-) Tim
I too am sure that the dealerships are making plenty of $$$, and this issue actually came up during my negotiations. The whole process is just miserable, you know? I forget about it when I drive around in my nice new car, but still. . .
I got the same: 05 Accord Sedan EX-L auto in graphite, but did not fare quite as well. I went to Clair Honda in Boston.
Their best offer was $22015 + destination $515 _ tax/fees. (They matched an offer by Herb Chambers to arrive at this price.) I wanted them to come down on the price because of the destination charge, and they wouldn't, claming they were going to lose $ if they brought the price down any further (yeah, right). I said they'd have to come down another $200 to get me to purchase, and they did, but in a very odd way. They gave me a way too much $ for the trade in (a 14 y.o. car that other dealers wouldn't even take) and left the price of the car crazily high. I am sure this is b/c it looks better for them on paper and may help them out w/ taxes when they claim they took a loss on my old beater at auction.
Anyway, when all was said & done, here's what I paid: $22,230 + 214 fees/plates/reg + 1111 tax (5% in MA). I got a 1.9% APR which made this a little easier to live with.
I suppose I could have pushed a bit harder, but the dealers (everyone except the sales manager with whom I had to haggle) were very nice, no-pressure, and they are right around the corner from my home.
They simply pass them along. I wish these weren't shown as a seperate charge. It wold make things much easier.
That said--While shoping for a car, what I found is that some dealers list it as a separate charge while others include it in the price. Some people on this forum were able to get roughly the same quotes for the car that I purchased with the destiantion price included, whereas the dealership I went to offered me a certain price, plus destination. In other words, they were asking $500 more.
I totally agree that these charges should be bundled into the cost of thr vehicle.