2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience

eric104

I took the delivery of 2005 accord EX-L from west broad honda in Richmond, VA. $21396 ( after $515 destination=$21911), Tax 664, Registration fee 249 and other small fee..my total cost is $22918. It includes wheel locks. I had an overall good experience. Of course they try to sell extra warrenty and other stuffs and I politely declined. No pushing.

ktnr

I've read about this "cracking ice" sound but never experienced it myself until the weather got really cold two days ago. My '05 LX now does this too - right above the driver's sunvisor. I noticed this morning that the noise didn't reappear when I first pulled out of my relatively warm garage. Only after five minutes of driving in freezing weather did it start up.

 

Because so many people hear this noise from the exact same place, there is obviously something in that part of the car's structure that can make noise when cold. The car's structure should be stiff enough that chassis flex isn't causing the intermittent noise over random minor bumps.

 

I want to experiment with the defroster to see if heating the windshield will abate the noise. If not, then perhaps something like mylar insulation over the wiring for the vanity mirrors and map lights could be the source?

akma

Hey ethansquare looks like a great deal from what i've seen. which dealer did you go to? i'm looking for the same lease you got but with 15k instead.i'm trying to get this car this week. thanks in advance.

jmaxe

I'll second the recommendation on Gunn Honda. I bought a new EX-V6 sedan a year ago at well below invoice.

lee_w

The windshield / cracking sound would be a good question for Owners club, see link at top of page.

Kirstie_H

Hi susans - we generally recommend that if the fee is NOT listed on the sticker, think twice about paying it. So, if this destination charge is listed on the sticker, then it's a legitimate fee that the dealership has no control over, as isellhondas said.

 

However, if there's an additional $500 fee added on to your paperwork in the finance office, this is padding. You can expect to pay a reasonable documentation or administrative fee, but not an additional $500 for "destination" that's been added on by the dealership.

 

kirstie_h

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imidazol97

Some dealers add to the sticker that came with the car and pack the price with extras that are mostly profit if not all profit. You don't mean those fees are okay, or do you?

CSF

We're coming off a lease on a 2002 Acura TL. I really love this car and for the first time ever, I'm kind of sad to see a lease end. The new TL's are now out of our price range, and I don't really like the new sportier interior of the TL.

 

So, I have an offer for a 36 mo. 36K mile lease on a v6 w/Navi with a monthly payment of $417 and around $750 due at signing. They're also offering to pay the two remaining payments on my current lease. Is this a good deal?

 

Has anyone on here gone from a TL to an Accord? If so, are you as happy with the Accord as you were with the TL?

 

Thanks in advance for replies

kyfdx

Does that lease price include tax?

 

Also, did you consider leasing one without NAV? Might save you about $30/mo.

 

regards,

kyfdx

CSF

kyfdx,

 

That lease payment is pre-tax, but the taxes will be less than $10/month. The tax on my current lease is $5.67/mo.

 

I really like the Navi system & the voice control system. It's something I didn't have in the TL and can't afford in the new TL.

 

csf

kyfdx

Well... The upfront money.. Just first payment and license/title fees?

 

If so, it looks like they are rolling the acquisition fee into the cap cost ($695) and making a couple of lease payments for you ($600?).. So, adding all that in, it looks like they are giving you a pretty good deal.

 

I like the NAV, too.. Just couldn't swallow $30/month for it, if it were me (which it isn't).

 

regards,

kyfdx

CSF

Yes, the upfront is first payment, and taxes & fees.

 

They are going to write me a check for the remaining payments on my Acura (right at $700).

 

The payment they quoted me is exactly what car_man over on the leasing forum quoted me -- and the gross cap cost is just under Edmund's TMV for the v6 w/Navi.

 

I think it's a pretty good deal. I like the fact that I don't have to put any downpayment with it. I may go for 15K a year which would increase the monthly payment by $13.

 

Thanks for your input!

kyfdx

Yeah.. if you have any doubts at all about the mileage, go ahead and get the 15K..

 

Sounds like a good deal...

 

One note.. if they are cutting you a check for the remaining payments, then they aren't taking the Acura in trade, you are turning it back in.. You would still be responsible for any end of term charges..

Kirstie_H

No, those wouldn't be OK - I could be wrong, but I don't think the dealer is allowed to take off the manufacturer sticker and put on their own fees. The extra fees I'm talking about are those added on to the sales/finance documents - those not pre-set by the manufacturer. A reasonable doc fee is to be expected, though.

 

kirstie_h

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merlin180

Hi all,

 

What would be a "A reasonable doc fee" - round here (NC) it seems to be about $550 ($615 at VW)

 

What is it suppose to cover anyway ?

 

Thanks in advance

 

sbr

imidazol97

in 12/03 was $20.

3c3

> What would be a "A reasonable doc fee" - round here (NC) it seems to be about $550 ($615 at VW)

>

> What is it suppose to cover anyway ?

 

It's supposed to cover typing in your name and address into the computer.

aggie1995

21k for a EX-V6.....no way.

 

21k is what you will pay for a 4-cyl EX-L. If 25k is without Navi and includes Taxes you are getting a fair deal.

 

The negotaiting room for 2 cars versus 1 is not much. I have bought cars as part of a fleet program with my company before and bulk purchasing on new cars doesn't do alot for you. It helps a couple hundred bucks but not thousands.

aggie1995

Doc Fee in Texas last year $50.

ktnr

What would be a "A reasonable doc fee"

 

A reasonable fee is whatever it takes for the dealer to make about a $400-500 total profit on the sale of the car. The dealer's cost on the car is mfr's invoice + destination - holdback - any dealer rebate or incentives.

 

For advertising purposes, a dealer might have a seriously low "base price" but then add destination and dealer fees to get near or beyond invoice. Another dealer might package all costs and fees into a more complete price that they then can't advertise because it's too high to look tempting.

 

However a dealer breaks down their price, the bottom line is how much profit they're making and whether they're the lowest price available to you.

 

Even if the lowest price I can get includes a $800 "document fee" so be it.

mrcoffee42

I was wondering what everyone thought of this offer from Earnhardt Honda in Phoenix:

Accord EX-V6 with Navi, $25936, not including destination or TTL. I also asked them to price the same car with tinted windows, the wing spoiler, a cargo net for the trunk and an upgrade to 17" alloy wheels, $28,602. I thought $2666 was a bit steep for those options.

Also, I got a trade-in offer from them on my '97 Accord LX. It is the 4 cyl. with 96k miles. It is in very good condition for its age. One accident which did not touch the frame, and was completely repaired by insurance. It also had hail damage a couple years ago, also completely repaired by insurance so it basically has a 2 year old skin. According to Edmunds, the trade in price should be about $4300. The Honda dealer offered me $3500 on the basis that it has almost 100k miles. As I understand it, Edmunds prices are based on actual sales prices, so shouldn't I be able to get closer to the $4300?

isellhondas

Susans, what some dealers will do is quote a price over the phone that does not include the destination charge. they spring it on the customer later.

 

" Of course there is the 515.00 destination charge"

 

Often, that deceptive little trick works.

Kirstie_H

$550 is ridiculously high. The last 2 times I've purchased a vehicle, it was $89. This seems completely reasonable. The doc fee is negotiable just like any other cost (save tax) in the transaction.

 

However, we often recommend that consumers focus on an out-the-door price. Negotiate a number that includes everything under the dealership's control, which excludes tax, title, and license. Go into the negotiation with a price in mind that will make you happy, and work toward that price. Then, just make sure the bottom line number on the paperwork matches that price, rather than worrying about the $ amount on each line item.

 

kirstie_h

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isellhondas

Charges 35.00 and it's not negiotable. I paid it when I bought my last car. This HELPS pay for some of the admin costs.

 

550.00 is nuts!

kyfdx

And really.. the issue is not how much the charges are, or even what they are called..

 

It is agreeing to a price, then getting to the F&I office and having the number you are paying come out completely different..

 

isell: I'm sure in your store, that you let everyone of your customers know in advance that there will be that $35 document fee before the papers are drawn up...

 

They can have a "non-negotiable" $2000 document fee if they want... as long as they let me know that before we agree on a price.. then I can factor that into my negotiations.. It still stinks and is what gives the car business a bad rep.. but, if it is upfront, I can live with it.

 

regards,

kyfdx

Kirstie_H

$35.00 is almost free, and I can't imagine that anyone would argue over that, though there are some that just do.

 

The Accord is a popular vehicle - they shouldn't have to add on ridiculous fees to make a profit on it.

 

kirstie_h

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andydeville

Hi everybody,

 

I'm a day away from buying the 2005 Honda EX V6 Coupe in Indianapolis. I've been speaking to all the dealers in town - Tom Wood, Ed Martin, Indy Honda and Penske and the best price I've been offered is 24,628 (including destination) excluding taxes and documentation. I have pre approval for the entire purchase price and should qualify for Honda's 1.9 % APR.

 

Is this a good price? Seems to be at invoice and is much less than Edmunds TMV - This bit confuses me as that's the number I went in prepared to negotiate around.

 

I don't want to accept the first offer but am not sure what to respond with. 300 below? 600 below? Does a car as popular as the Accord sell below invoice?

 

Thanks to all who reply - your insight is appreciated.

 

- Andy

xcel

Hi Isellhondas:

 

Charges 35.00 and it's not negiotable. I paid it when I bought my last car. This HELPS pay for some of the admin costs.

 

___That price is very reasonable and I would not even bat an eye if that were added and I didn’t know about it. It is in the $50’s here in Northern Illinois and that doesn’t bother me either. The $300 to $500 type numbers on the other hand … those dealerships profit motives are not only far over the top, they can rot in hell :-D

 

___By the way, what county/state/area do you work from?

 

___Good Luck

 

___Wayne R. Gerdes

baddad

I myself, am about to buy an EX-V6 sedan, and have been quoted $25450 (invoice+$515 destination). Granted, I'm in the Dallas, Texas market, but it seems like a good price on both counts (you and I. My folks bought an '03 EX-V6 almost 2 years ago, and paid almost $28K! Maybe haggle some on accessories? I'm putting $6000 down, and getting 1.9 for 60 months...it's hard to complain. Enjoy your car!

ktnr

baddad,

 

Edmunds lists Honda's dealer holdback at 3% of base MSRP or $26,700. Therefore you'd expect that your dealer is making a profit of $801 on your car. Personally, I'd be more comfortable giving in the $400-500 profit range but if it's the best you can do in your area, then it's a deal.

imidazol97

>This HELPS pay for some of the admin costs.

 

LOL.

That's what the usual profit is for. I don't see Kroger adding on an administration fee to help pay administration costs when I purchase grocery items. there!!!!

 

This is just an extra fee that people will fall for and dealers add it on.

1hopeck

I just got a qoute in Columbus, Ohio for a Accord EX V6 Navi for $25820 which the sales guy states excludes the Destination charge.

Maybe it is covered up in their costs.......

blue97

If I car from another state and drive it back home. what are the things I should be concerned about?

 

One would have to pay the sales tax of the state where it was purchased. Then the title have to be changed to the home state at a DMV nominal fee. Would I have to pay any in-state taxes? Thanks

kyfdx

Generally.. you should NOT have to pay tax where it was purchased... Out-of-state residents usually get a non-resident title, and pay taxes when they register in their home jurisdiction.. this may vary by state, but this is the normal procedure.

 

regards,

kyfdx

stacey_burke

Im from Colorado and bought in California. thats 2 large states away. They drove the car to Nevada so that I did not have to pay the California sales tax and I paid tax in Colorado when I took it to get plates. Difference was about 4.5% and on the purchase price of 25,000 that was quite a bit.

isellhondas

Well, some customers don't think a store should make a "usual profit". I don't know who "Kroger" is but I'm sure they simply roll their administration fees into their prices.

 

We just disclose it as a seperate charge.

baddad

OOOPS! I transposed some numbers on my last post: I was quoted $24540 (invoice+dest.),not $25450. Of course I'll shoot for $300-$400 below invoice, but if I can get a few extra things I would buy anyway, that's fine. I feel that sometimes you can spend an awful lot of time trying to save a few dollars, and not considering what the time in itself is worth. With gas at $1.80 a gallon, a couple hundred bucks gets burned pretty easily while hunting for that Holy Grail deal!

blue97

>They drove the car to Nevada so that I did not have to pay the California sales tax

 

You mean the dealer drove the car to Nevada? You didn't pay any tax in Nevada? I assume CA collects sales tax on cars sold there.

imidazol97

> I don't know who "Kroger" is.

 

It's a large supermarket chain which owns some others under different names.

 

>I'm sure they simply roll their administration fees into their prices.

 

That was my point. Instead of saying a can is $3.25 and then adding on a fee at the register for selling you the can, the cost of selling you the can is built into the price of the can shown to begin with...

cole505

Anyone in Chicagoland make an 05 EX-V6 Navi purchase lately? Can you give me an idea of purchase price and maybe your feel on local dealerships? I'm looking to replace my 99 coupe soon...

hossman1

I need your advice and experience. I am looking to lease (36 months) a '05 EX V6, NO NAvi.

Price quoted was $24,156 (includes destination fee), which equates to $319 + tax. Nothing down. They are also charging me a $595 Assignment fee. Is that charge normal? I think that is nothing bt pure profit and should not be part of the deal. Your thoughts? Thanks

stacey_burke

Yes, the dealer drove the car out of state so that I did not pay CA sales tax. I did pay $100 for the Driver (included a tip of $20.) They picked me up at the Sacramento airport and we were out of the dealers in about 2 hours after I got off of the plane. Like I posted, that let me pay about 4.5% less.(difference between CA sales tax and CO lic. fees)

kyfdx

That is the standard Honda Finance acquisition fee for a lease.... It goes straight to the bank.. not negotiable, and the dealer sees none of it.. This is a pretty standard charge on most leases...

 

$319/mo is a great deal to drive a $26K car..

hossman1

kyfdx---many thanks for your advice.

susano

I live in Florida and I am leasing a new Accord Sedan EXL 4 cylinder today or tomorrow 2nd one I've owned and don't want to make another mistake paying too much nothing down for 36 mos. at 15K a year in miles. Payments are 350 mo including tax, is that a good deal

jtmjw1

I live in southeast Ohio and got a 4dr EXL V6 with navigation for invoice which was 26,385.00. That price included the destination charge. They had probably 50 accords in stock but not the color that I wanted with the Navigation, so they had to get it from another dealer. It ended up having about 80 miles on it when I got it. But very happy with the whole process, the salesman was great, gave me the price I wanted over the phone, probably took about five minutes.

     I first sent emails to all dealers in the area and asked them for their best price, I asked them to respond within two days by either email or by phone, and as of right now i still have not had one response form any of the other dealers. I got this one salesman name from a friend that gave him a really good deal on a 2004 oddessy, so I called the guy and had a deal in under 5 minutes. I would be happy to give anybody the dealership name and salesman's name.

jtmjw1

Sorry, southwest Ohio, Dayton to be exact.

jefhack

where in NY did you get this deal? wouldn't happen to be long island would it? thanks!

jag5

2005 EX-V6 (Graphite) Automatic Sedan w/ appearance pack. Paid $24,700 out the door all taxes and fess included). Anyone beat it?

newaccordowner

Facts

12/18/2004 Honda Superstore Lisle Illinois

2005 Accord V6 Sedan EX Leather no navi

Black exterior/ Ivory leather Interior

Price Paid (with dest.) before taxes: $24,200

 

The whole negotiation process took 10 minutes. Armed with the knowledge, picked up here, that people were getting them below invoice and far below Edmund's True Market price, I showed them an ad for $23,998 from Grand Honda in Elmhurst. They countered with a price of $24,366. I countered with $24,200. Deal done. No games. No sleazy salesman tactics -- these are good people that treated me like I was an intelligent shopper.

 

I agree with posts I've seen earlier, Honda must be offering dealers some secret incentives or deals because this was too easy. The price I got was nearly $1100 less than Edmunds True price I saw about a week ago. I would suggest others start out lower than I did, but I'm happy with the price I got.

 

Thank you to all the people who've posted the price they paid, it was very helpful. That is why I'm posting my experience so the next guy can do even better.

 

However, while researching it was a real drag paging through endless posts from people disputing others prices, asking questions about the car's performance/problems, getting into long discussions about things other than the price of their car, in general trying to establish some kind of relationship. Please do everybody a favor, post your price and get off. This isn't a place to make friends.

 

This is my one and only posting. I've bought my car, passed on some knowledge so somebody else can benefit, and I'm getting on with my life. I won't be back to see any replies.