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2013 and earlier-Honda Accord Prices Paid and Buying Experience
I just purchased a 2003 4 cylinder Accord for under $16,000.00 that was sitting in a garage for two years. My mechanic is going over the vehicle, after which, I will have the entire vehicle cleaned and detailed. I couldn't pass up this deal. My mechanic told me, that the Accord, only has 1,592 miles on the speedometer / odometer. Since I know nothing about cars, I have to depend on the professionals to keep me on the road. My other vehicle is a 2002 Ford Mustang. I am very lucky, in that my condo along the Hudson River comes with two parking spaces, so I have a safe place to park my new toy. ------ Best regards. ----Dwayne
The invoice on the auto is $21,213 and $20,494 on the manual.
From Handa - the tape deck $183.60, the locks $29.95, and the tray $78.00. All prices plus shipping. The tape deck would be some work to install, the others are simple. So about $315 for the accessories w/shipping and you install yourself. So the invoice prices would be $21,528 and $20,809 for the cars and the accessories if you added them later (plug labor on the tape deck if you didn't want to do the install).
Some volume dealers are selling the EX for $1,000 or so under invoice (at least through March 31st) - so depending on if your car is an auto or manual you got a super deal or a decent deal.
You really got hosed on the warranty, however. I would go back and un-wind that out of the deal. I am pretty sure you have xx days to change your mind on the warranty and get a full refund. HondaCare coverage (the only extended warranty to get - since it is Honda backed) can be purchased any time before the 3/36k warranty is up and from ANY Honda dealer. There are certain points where the price goes up (after 2 years since new, etc).
Without even trying hard, I could get the 7/75k/$0 for FAR less than you paid.
If you look here (for example, there should be better/cheaper prices available elsewhere)
Their shown price is $845 for that warranty and they e-mail you a coupon code good for anouther $50-75 off that price. For $600+ in savings I would get that warranty cancelled and your money refunded. Then you will have a couple of years to add the warranty at a much lower price - or find a discount dealer and get it now.
Accord EX 4cyl w/o Ltr is an AUTO. And they will be doing all the installs. I'll check into the warranty. Does the one that you mention (the link) cover tires? The one at the dealer is called Advantage Plus. Thanks for your help.
>>Just purchased from Castle Honda in Morton Grove, Illinois. >> >>Accord EX 4cyl w/o Ltr $20,500 >>Cassette >>Wheel Locks/Trunk Tray >>7yr/75k $0 deduct universal warranty (wouldn't budge from $1445, reg $2000) >> >>including TTL $24,393 >> >>Any thoughts? (Claimed invoice price: $21142
Does the $20,500 price include the accessories or not? If so, then the car is a super deal as I figured above. If not, then you might could do better. I don't know what TTL is where you live, so I can't tell if there are problems there or not.
HondaCare does not cover tires - the details are on the Honda web page. HondaCare is the warranty program backed by Honda and the only one good at ANY Honda dealership. With companies like "Warranty Gold" going bankrupt and leaving folks who pair with NO coverage I would not buy ANY extended warranty except the one backed by the car maker. Since you can get the real-deal HondaCare for $600 or more less than the one you purchased, I would cancel it. You can buy new tires if you need them with the money you save - and better still the HondaCare is good at any Honda dealer.
A new 2005 LX AT w/full warranty can be had for $18,000 - $18,400 depending on where you live. A car that has been sitting for 2 years and has little warranty left on it would not be attractive to ME with just a $2k discount. If you financed and didn't pay cash, if you compare your rate VS the 2.9% money you can get on a new Accord it may make the actual prices even closer.
I hope you had the mechanic check the car BEFORE you purchased and not after. Also did you run a CarFax check to be sure there is not a flood or salvage or lemon problem with the car? Did the owner have a "reasonable" explanation of why the car has been sitting for 2 years - that you can verify?
By the time you pay to have the car checked, cleaned and detailed - and fix anything that is wrong (battery and tires, at least) you really didn't save a LOT of money - and have a 2 year older car running out of warranty. It would have had to be well below $16k before I would have gone for it.
My wife and I picked up her new "desert mist" (beige) Accord LX I4 sedan w/AT Thursday night from Darrell Waltrip Honda in Franklin, TN.
With the help of posts in this forum, I saw that Holmes Honda in Shreveport, LA would do the car w/destination and dealer fees (but no tax, title, or tax) for $18,000. I never did get any answer direct from them, but saw the $18,000 figure posted. Shreveport is WAY too far away to consider, unless the savings were huge.
I also found the in CarsDirect if I put in ZIP codes for Chattanooga or Atlanta the price came up $18,300 or so. Someone posted that Hennessey Honda in Woodstock (outside Atlanta) was the CD dealer - so I e-mail them for a price. I hear back the next day with a price of $18,317 including car/dest/doc/prep - the Internet rep also said if they had a pre-price-increase car in the color we wanted (one they got in before 2/17) they could take another $100 off the price.
weatherman2 posted that he and his wife had just picked up a deal from Swope Honda in Louisville, which is even closer to me than Atlanta. I contracted the same salesperson and he quoted me $18,200 for car/dest/fees. They only had one car that didn't have a lot of stuff added (wing, etc) - the one he quoted me on had mud flaps, trunk tray, pin stripes, finish and fabric "coating", under coating, and KREX roadside assistance. Since I would be paying for none of these, that was OK by me - except I really rather they didn't put anything on/under/in the car as coatings. This looked like the one we would get. We could hop in the S2000 after work on Thursday and drive up (about 3 hours each way) and pick up the car. Based on the posting the car should be ready, maybe an hour for the paperwork, and then drive back home. We were not excited about a car with stuck on pin stripes or the various coatings, but the flaps and trunk tray would be "free".
I had faxed all the area dealers an offer sheet with the prices I had been given and asking them if they had cars in stock in the colors we wanted, and to see if they could meet or get close to the prices I had ($18,200-$18,317). The few that bothered to respond could not get anywhere close to these prices. I put in the fax I knew the hold back and knew about the up to $600 in dealer incentive and the right price I would close the deal by the 31st. Still lots of dealers had no reply or high answers.
Except Darrell Waltrip Honda - the Internet rep answered me that night and followed up with a phone call that night (I was not in) and again first thing the next morning. I explained (again) the numbers I was after and he came back with a higher figure - but better than the other local dealers. I have been taking my S2000 to DW for service and oil changes - even though I got it (on a cheap deal) out of state - and always had first class service. I mentioned that to them and told them I was leaving that afternoon for KY and my GPS was programmed for the dealership (it was) and it was a nice day/night for a top down drive with my wife. BUT if they would get close to the price I would come get a car from them instead. He asked me how close and I said $200 - for $200 I would not do 6 hours of driving. Also, the new cars from DW come with a coupon book for discount oil changes, etc that I can use on either car - this would help make up for some of the difference in price. They also include free roadside assistance with the car purchase/lease.
Later one of the sales managers called me ("The closer", I guess) and I told him the same thing. I even called him "the closer" when he introduced himself - and he chuckled :-) He touted all the benefits of getting the car from him, etc - I told him drop the price or I go to KY. I got them to within $315 or so of the price. He said they had long ago made their number for the $600 per car, but needed another few cars "today" to hit 200 for the month.
About 45 minutes before I was getting off of work and heading to KY I e-mail my rep one more time."Poopie or get off the pot. Drop the price or I go to KY". They called me back in about 2 minutes with another $100 off.
So we went to DW Honda and got the car - in the end it was $18,412 or $212 more than my best price - but we closed the deal, celebrated with a nice supper, and were home by the time we would have arrive in KY to start the process. With the coupons I should get some of the money back - and since I take my car there it will be simple to use them and take her new car in as needed.
The car we got had the mud flaps on it (for free) but I never saw the side sticker so I don't know if they had packed anything else on it or not. If they didn't, we didn't pay. They use advertising front plates (and a stuck on decal on the rear) but they removed the front plate and hold when I asked them to (no front plates in TN).
No problems with the paperwork or the finance department - except part of the deal was a $100 "Internet sales coupon" I had to print out and bring with us. Rather than take this $100 off the car, they took it off the amount of the check I was to write them. Since we were doing the promo (really cheap) lease these altered the payment just a little from what I had pre-calculated. I punched the new numbers into Lease-It! in my Palm/phone and they worked out wrong - again. Turns out they had given us a pre-price increase car (like the dealer in GA mentioned) so they could make that extra $100. No problem for me, but it made the lease residual change (down) just a bit. Once I had the new number in Lease-It! everything was OK. With the rate so cheap, I rolled the $595 acq fee into the lease and just paid first month, tax, and tags and signing (less the $100 coupon). I guess they knew a shopper like me would not go for the extras so they didn't even offer them, but I had to initial a form saying they were offered and I turned them down.
All in all I am happy with the deal. Yes I could have saved some money by driving but not THAT much. When I was young my late mother used to take my brother and I to the Nashville Fairgrounds races. A young driver arrived on the scene from Owensboro, KY and became our favorite. With lots of talent and wins he later moved on to Winston Cup and championships. He settled into the Nashville area as well. So to get a car from "his" (maybe mostly name, since Hendrick owns it) dealership was nice :-)
Things I didn't like:
You can get financing pre-approval at the Honda finance web page. Do the form online and get an OK within just a few minutes. The trouble is this can't be transferred to the dealership so is about worthless. You know you are approved, but you have to fill out another app at the dealership anyway. With BMSFS, for example, you get pre-approved and when you pick your dealer and make your deal you "transfer" the app to them. It is printed out and waiting when you get there to pick up the car - just sign it.
The dealer should have been willing to do the forms and fax them to me before we drove down. "It will only take a minute once you get here" - well it took a little longer since I read them over quite carefully. This would have made things quicker at the dealership since I would have spotted the 2 changes before going in.
The front plate with dealer ad and the rear dealer sticker. They removed the front plate and holder (no visible holes) and I can remove the sticker from the rear - but I just prefer no dealer marks on my cars. If anyone askes where I got the car and if I get a good deal I will be glad to tell them, but don't turn my property into your billboard (or course most dealers do this).
Their non-negotiable DOC fee is $298, which is pretty high. I am glad I made sure all dealers gave me prices for car/destination/doc since this could have meant I was paying too much when I sat down to sign. This did make my car price look even better though :-)
Things to like:
They answer their e-mails promptly! They even had someone else follow up by phone within 24 hours of first contact to make sure I had been contacted by a sales person. I had different folks call me back about the fax and e-mails - no slipping through the cracks at DW Honda. It is AMAZING how many dealers don't reply to e-mails or faxes or even calls - I can see them sitting around sales meetings wonder how to increase sales. JUST ANSWER THE E-MAILS and CALLS would be good start.
The whole process was pretty painless, Swope and Henessey gave me good prices right off but I had to work DW a bit to get a decent price. The paperwork and dealership experience we just fine. The car was ready, clean, and with a full tank of gas when we got to the dealership.
I would not hesitate to recommend them - but going on the last day of the month means you can hammer them more on the price. Where other dealers came up with a good price right off this took a little bit more work, but most was done with short phone calls or quick replies to e-mails.
The TTL in Chicagoland area comes to around nearly $1800-1900 (about 8% tax). The accessories are included, but not labor costs I guess (an extra $150), and I believe that the salesperson still plans to throw in the trunk tray for no charge and rust proofing for about $150 (not bad compared to outside providers). I wish that I could have worked on the deal a little more, but they won't go absurdly low like $20000 around here so meet him halfway.
just purchased my o5 accord ex with leather in silver. pd 21900 including destination handling charges, & window etching(Refused to pay for this and dealer had it on every car on their lot). Feel this is a fair price for central nj
Bought on Saturday at Schaumburg Honda. $24,200 inc. destination and dealer added accessories. Sticker with dealer accessories was $27,653. I was quoted and irritated by Grand Honda all week for $23,700 but they would not give me a written quote or tell me what was included in that number unless I signed for the $23,700 first. Too vague and sleezy for my stomach. It was harder to get the price at Schaumburg and took awhile, but well worth it. I also get a coupon book (no expiration date for free oil changes and wiper blades. Woo Hoo!!!
They don't know - any more than we do. The Accord sales came up for March, Civic sales did not. The Accord numbers still are not that high - so it is POSSIBLE they will have cheap money for April and maybe even more dealer money (hoo-hoo).
I missed the lease deal that ended in Feb, and wondered if I should have gone ahead and pulled the trigger. Then the March deals came out EVEN CHEAPER. The same with the 2.9% money, it used to be just on certain models - now all Accords (even the hybrid).
If it is any indication, they already extended the cheap (< 1%) lease money until May 2.
In any case, once today passes then the new numbers will appear in a few days on the Honda web page.
I am heading to MA. this Thursday morning to pick it up. $23,200 for the PZEV I4 EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI. Boch still hasn’t sent me any paperwork however :-(
Stopped at the dealer today looking for deals - no word on the financing yet - probably tomorrow he said. Anyways, the dealer car has 5900 miles - how much should I offer below invoice figuring those miles?
Well, the 2.9% is still good today - so if you wanted to get in on that you should make them give you a deal now.
I don't think I would fool with the demo - as was mentioned you should be able to get a NEW car at or below dealer cost (for sure below last month). How much lower are they going to go on a demo? I am sure Honda gives some discount for the demo, but I would not think it would be enough to make be want one with that many miles on it.
I HAVE purchased 2 "demo" cars in my life - and both were super deals well below the best deal on I could get on a "new" one and I had no unusual problems with either. Both were driven by dealership employees - one was by the receptionist (I know because I helped her get her stuff out of MY car after I purchased it) and the other by the dealership owner's wife (he said so, but she left several gas receipts in the glove box with her name and signature on them). Both had a lot less than 5,900 miles on them as well.
San Antonio, TX: I bought my 2005 Honda Accord EX 4 cyl cloth interior. It's the second car I've owned in my entire life, replacing a 1997 Chevy Malibu. GUNN HONDA IN SAN ANTONIO TEXAS IS THE BOMBA!! The sales person made my car shopping experience a great one and the finance manager made my day. The MSRP was $23,515 and they were going to sell it to me for $20,998--still the cheapest deal in SAT. Then the sales guy called me back and said the price was incorrect and had found an incentive so the exact same car that he previously quoted to me for $20,998 was now...$19,998!! I was excited but still not prepared for what the finance manager told me...a good price AND a GREAT rate--I qualified for the 2.9%!! I just about fell out of my chair! I cried too...Thank you Jesus!
I recommend anyone in SATX or in the near vicinity to go to GUNN Honda. If you want contact info, we'll chat and via instant messenger on AOL and I'll get you the name of my sales guy.
My thinking on a used car with miles on it is how much would the dealer take off if I brought my car in to them with 5900 miles on to trade for another new car. How much less would they value the car because of the mileage.
Otherwise I'll take the new one that's not "preused." They can call it 'demo,' 'company car,' etc., but those are euphemisms for 'used.'
As a warning, Grand Honda offers $20,000 for the EX no leather, but when you step in the door, they change their game on you. Basically, you have start buying accessories if you want the car or not getting it. That's how they make up for it. Castle Honda and Ohare Honda plus Schaumburg Honda will not even consider Grand Honda's so-called deals.
Sounds like you got a great deal to be proud of. Congrats! I'd love to get your and anyone elses opinion on the deal I'm trying to negotiate in the Chicago market. At the moment, I am requesting quotes for a 2005 Accord EX-L with NAV 2.4L 4 cyl, Satin Silver/Black Leather, no XM radio, rear spoiler, and floor mats thrown in for good measure. The best quote I have to date is $23,769 +TTL. Based on what lilduke99 scored, I'm not so sure this is a good deal. What do you all feel is a fair price for this vehicle configuration that I should be drving toward? Thanks much! JT3
I believe O’Hare has already beat Grand twice in the last 2 months although one was a mistake. Wilde in Waukesha has beat Grand once or twice in the last few months as well. Didn’t someone just nail an Accord from Castle for $1,000 under last month as well? I have also noticed that Grand is not running the New and Used Honda prices anymore but just the Used and the Honda sponsored leases over the last 3 weekends.
Can you suggest some dealers in N.Virginia where i may find a good deal !? The thing is i just graduated from school and started my new job in n virginia, and the budget i have right now may not get me a new car , so i thought buying a relatively new honda like 03, 04 may save some money . But i will consider new ones cuz iguess 06 accord is going to be out soon so may be i can get a good deal on 05 . thanks for the response...
Just went to dealer tonight looking at an LX V6 they wouldnt go lower than 22950 +TTL anyone know where a good place for me to look somewhat around Las Vegas?
Last Thursday I picked up my EX, I4, auto from Boch ($20,000). Had issues with the paperwork because I really don't think they knew how to handle a cash, out-of-state (RI) sales transaction. The paperwork was filled out incorrectly, etc. I called them Friday and they said the paperwork was FedEx to me. When it didn't arrive on Monday, I called again. They then told me it was never sent because they had to pay the MA sales tax first. Once that was done, they would then FedEx me all the paperwork. I said "don't bother, I'll come and pick up the paperwork myself". Which I did last night. So hearing that they haven't sent you any paperwork doesn't surprise me.
We got our 2005 EX manual at Fairfax for about $500 under invoice, but we had to play hard-to-get. We made an offer, they did not accept it, we left to get in our car, and the salesman came out and told us the offer was accepted.
I read about another guy who got an LX at Koons on Manassas for about $1000 under invoice.
My guess is that all of the dealers offer good prices these days, but you have to know exactly what you want to offer and you have to be willing to walk out if they don't accept it.
When we asked for internet quotes, two dealers (Fairfax and Tysons) gave us offers around invoice very quickly. Landmark was a few hundred dollars higher, but when the guy called me on the phone he said he could go lower.
Our 2005 Accord is much nicer than our 1999 model. Much nicer. We are thrilled with it.
I did a ton of research prior to going to any dealers, then I called around and asked for quotes. I can tell you this, the lowest invoice price I could find was on Intellichoice. This was one of my biggest bargaining tactics. When they counter offered a higher KBB invoice I said: "Well, the intellichoice website says base invoice on the EX-V6 was 24,028 plus destination." They looked and talked, then came back with "well there is the accessory package we installed". I said I didn't ask for it and that Grand had quoted me 23,700 with the same package and Honda in Lisle quoted 23,699. I had to walk out twice during the bargaining for the car price and once on my trade-in price as well.
Best advice is to watch the car ads in the Saturday and Sunday papers. Take note of how much. Then research a bit on all the different Websites and find out the highs and lows of the invoice pricing and suggested target price. After that, test drive at maybe two dealers and get written price quotes (if possible- Grand won't). Then take a week to decide. Some will call you a million times bugging you to buy (this was Grand) and some won't (Schaumburg did not). Then if you are comfortable with going for it, call around the morning you are going out to try and buy and get quotes from a few more dealers over the phone. Tell them you are interested in buying today and are looking at several dealers. Take these with you.
Like I said, it wasn't easy to get the price I wanted at Schaumburg, but it was well worth it. Honda in Lisle wanted a credit card to reserve the car before I even looked at it, and Grand was rude, obnoxious an patehtic from the get-go. The salesman there is still calling me after I told him I was going to purchase somewhere else. I have to say, be careful of Grands tactics, but you should get a price from them anyhow. They low-ball the price but don't tell you that destination and their accessories etc are not included. Schaumburg was EXTREMELY professional and upfront with me from the get-go because I was armed with info and ready to go anywhere I had to to get the price I wanted. I have also heard good things about O'Hare, and Jacobs. I did hear the Jacobs one was done via the internet though, but the price was really good.
All in all, at the end I got their $399 accessory package for $50. Not bad. I'm sure they still made money on the deal but I am complacent with the deal and the car was well worth the wait and work it took to get it!
Congratulations! It sounds like you had a great shopping experience, and best of all, you're happy with your vehicle. Great interest rate as well. I'm sure other owners in our Honda Accord Owners Club would love to share ownership experiences with you. Drop by when you get a chance!
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I just bought my 2005 EX-V6 w/o Navigation at Buena Park Honda for $23350+TTL. I feel like I got a good deal and the experience was great. I did all my negotiations on the internet and on the phone, so we just went in, appraised my trade-in and processed the paperwork. I was out of there and in a new car in 2.5 hours. The dealership included wheel locks and mud guards. I also qualified for 2.9% APR.
I hope that helps!! If anyone is in this area, I highly recommend this dealership. Also, in general, I think it pays to do your homework online. It will make for a much better experience at the dealership! Good Luck! :P
great information there. i am also in the market for a ex-v6 in socal. did you buy the car by the end of 4/4? i thought 2.9% apr deal expired yesterday. could you please email me (on my profile) the email address for the person who sold you the car at Buena Park?
Thanks for the awesome reply! I've been taking a very similar approach, but you offer some excellent tips and advice. I'm going to keep plowing ahead and I'll keep you posted as things progress. I hope I fare as well as you did. JT3
I bought my car on April 31st. I think the 2.9% APR deal was through April, but I have read online that some dealerships have extended it...ask around, you might still be able to get it! I sent the name of the person to your email.
Could be - in some areas the dealer is putting a 2nd sticker on the window and jacking the price up OVER MSRP.
Go to carsdirect.com and see what they will sell your once for in your area. I do know that most Honda dealers around here seem to have a few on the lot now - so I think they should be available below MSRP now.
One thing to note: The Accord Hybrid is a "special" hybrid - it is not like the Insight or Civic or even the Prius. It is a "performance" hybrid. It is the fastest and most powerful Accord sedan - but returns mileage numbers a little above those of the I4 Accord. Keep in mind also that hybrids do real well in EPA tests and normally are much worse in the real world. Most cars are worse that EPA in the real world, but most hybrids are MUCH worse. I am sure you can poke along in one and "hyper-mile" and get some good numbers, but if you drive it like a normal person would you will not get close to EPA numbers.
So if the best performing V-6 Accord sedan that gets about I4 mileage appeals to you - it is nice car. No sunroof or folding seat, however :-(
Thank you for the reply and your personal experience Boch Honda is more then a bit lax with their paperwork as I am still waiting for the FedEx and I am leaving this Thursday morning! They will be faxing the sales paperwork tomorrow so I have it in detail and in my hands but they sure were fast at getting me the Routing and Account number for the electronic transfer of funds. Figures, doesn’t it?
Anyway, the PZEV based - 4-door - EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI came out to $23,201 + $198 doc and the 5% MA. tax. I have to pay another 1.5% on top of the MA. tax to IL. when I get home as our sales tax rate is 6.5% here and the Illinois DMV will not let me register/transfer plates without their cut but at least I am finally close to owning what I wanted
Wish me luck as it will be a long bus ride home if this deal goes awry :-(
After haggling down i bought my san marino red 2005 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX V-6 6 SPEED NO NAV FOR 23,300 + TTL!!! I also got the 2.9% financing since i did it on the last day 4/5/05 i spoke to the GM in charge of all the GILLMAN HONDA dealers in TEXAS he happened to be there at the time, and normally he doesn't do the haggling with customers he was very nice and polite and it took a lot of work but overall I told him that i was aware that honda gave at least a $500.00 rebate for Accord coupes, and that he gets 2-3% dealer holdback of the original MSRP I started at the $24,200 invoice listed price before destination then told him to minus the $500.00 and then take 2-3% off I lowballed at $23000 even he was willing to do $23800 of course he was trying to show me on KBB what invoice is and I told him that all Honda Dealers are selling Accords below invoice told him to meet me at $23,300 and I was going to drive tonight. overall very happy with the price. the 6 SPEED is a DREAM to drive and the 17 inch rims are screamin!!!
After haggling down i bought my san marino red 2005 HONDA ACCORD COUPE EX V-6 6 SPEED NO NAV FOR 23,300 + TTL!!! I also got the 2.9% financing since i did it on the last day 4/4/05 i spoke to the GM in charge of all the GILLMAN HONDA dealers in TEXAS he happened to be there at the time, and normally he doesnt do the haggling with customers he was very nice and polite and it took a lot of work but overall I told him that i was aware that honda gave at least a $500.00 rebate for Accord coupes, and that he gets 2-3% dealer holdback of the original MSRP I started at the $24,200 invoice listed price before destination then told him to minus the $500.00 and then take 2-3% off I lowballed at $23000 even he was willing to do $23800 of course he was trying to show me on KBB what invoice is and I told him that all Honda Dealers are selling Accords below invoice told him to meet me at $23,300 and I was going to drive tonight. overall very happy with the price. the 6 SPEED is a DREAM to drive and the 17 inch rims are screamin!!!
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Accord EX 4cyl w/o Ltr $20,500
Cassette
Wheel Locks/Trunk Tray
7yr/75k $0 deduct universal warranty (wouldn't budge from $1445, reg $2000)
including TTL $24,393
Any thoughts? (Claimed invoice price: $21142)
Like you said: Tell him you got the car you want from another dealer, that you are happy, and thank him for his time. Perfect.
The invoice on the auto is $21,213 and $20,494 on the manual.
From Handa - the tape deck $183.60, the locks $29.95, and the tray $78.00. All prices plus shipping. The tape deck would be some work to install, the others are simple. So about $315 for the accessories w/shipping and you install yourself. So the invoice prices would be $21,528 and $20,809 for the cars and the accessories if you added them later (plug labor on the tape deck if you didn't want to do the install).
Some volume dealers are selling the EX for $1,000 or so under invoice (at least through March 31st) - so depending on if your car is an auto or manual you got a super deal or a decent deal.
You really got hosed on the warranty, however. I would go back and un-wind that out of the deal. I am pretty sure you have xx days to change your mind on the warranty and get a full refund. HondaCare coverage (the only extended warranty to get - since it is Honda backed) can be purchased any time before the 3/36k warranty is up and from ANY Honda dealer. There are certain points where the price goes up (after 2 years since new, etc).
Without even trying hard, I could get the 7/75k/$0 for FAR less than you paid.
If you look here (for example, there should be better/cheaper prices available elsewhere)
http://www.curryhondacare.com/index.cfm
Their shown price is $845 for that warranty and they e-mail you a coupon code good for anouther $50-75 off that price. For $600+ in savings I would get that warranty cancelled and your money refunded. Then you will have a couple of years to add the warranty at a much lower price - or find a discount dealer and get it now.
Dennis
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>>Accord EX 4cyl w/o Ltr $20,500
>>Cassette
>>Wheel Locks/Trunk Tray
>>7yr/75k $0 deduct universal warranty (wouldn't budge from $1445, reg $2000)
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>>including TTL $24,393
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>>Any thoughts? (Claimed invoice price: $21142
Does the $20,500 price include the accessories or not? If so, then the car is a super deal as I figured above. If not, then you might could do better. I don't know what TTL is where you live, so I can't tell if there are problems there or not.
HondaCare does not cover tires - the details are on the Honda web page. HondaCare is the warranty program backed by Honda and the only one good at ANY Honda dealership. With companies like "Warranty Gold" going bankrupt and leaving folks who pair with NO coverage I would not buy ANY extended warranty except the one backed by the car maker. Since you can get the real-deal HondaCare for $600 or more less than the one you purchased, I would cancel it. You can buy new tires if you need them with the money you save - and better still the HondaCare is good at any Honda dealer.
Dennis
I hope you had the mechanic check the car BEFORE you purchased and not after. Also did you run a CarFax check to be sure there is not a flood or salvage or lemon problem with the car? Did the owner have a "reasonable" explanation of why the car has been sitting for 2 years - that you can verify?
By the time you pay to have the car checked, cleaned and detailed - and fix anything that is wrong (battery and tires, at least) you really didn't save a LOT of money - and have a 2 year older car running out of warranty. It would have had to be well below $16k before I would have gone for it.
Dennis
With the help of posts in this forum, I saw that Holmes Honda in Shreveport, LA would do the car w/destination and dealer fees (but no tax, title, or tax) for $18,000. I never did get any answer direct from them, but saw the $18,000 figure posted. Shreveport is WAY too far away to consider, unless the savings were huge.
I also found the in CarsDirect if I put in ZIP codes for Chattanooga or Atlanta the price came up $18,300 or so. Someone posted that Hennessey Honda in Woodstock (outside Atlanta) was the CD dealer - so I e-mail them for a price. I hear back the next day with a price of $18,317 including car/dest/doc/prep - the Internet rep also said if they had a pre-price-increase car in the color we wanted (one they got in before 2/17) they could take another $100 off the price.
weatherman2 posted that he and his wife had just picked up a deal from Swope Honda in Louisville, which is even closer to me than Atlanta. I contracted the same salesperson and he quoted me $18,200 for car/dest/fees. They only had one car that didn't have a lot of stuff added (wing, etc) - the one he quoted me on had mud flaps, trunk tray, pin stripes, finish and fabric "coating", under coating, and KREX roadside assistance. Since I would be paying for none of these, that was OK by me - except I really rather they didn't put anything on/under/in the car as coatings. This looked like the one we would get. We could hop in the S2000 after work on Thursday and drive up (about 3 hours each way) and pick up the car. Based on the posting the car should be ready, maybe an hour for the paperwork, and then drive back home. We were not excited about a car with stuck on pin stripes or the various coatings, but the flaps and trunk tray would be "free".
I had faxed all the area dealers an offer sheet with the prices I had been given and asking them if they had cars in stock in the colors we wanted, and to see if they could meet or get close to the prices I had ($18,200-$18,317). The few that bothered to respond could not get anywhere close to these prices. I put in the fax I knew the hold back and knew about the up to $600 in dealer incentive and the right price I would close the deal by the 31st. Still lots of dealers had no reply or high answers.
Except Darrell Waltrip Honda - the Internet rep answered me that night and followed up with a phone call that night (I was not in) and again first thing the next morning. I explained (again) the numbers I was after and he came back with a higher figure - but better than the other local dealers. I have been taking my S2000 to DW for service and oil changes - even though I got it (on a cheap deal) out of state - and always had first class service. I mentioned that to them and told them I was leaving that afternoon for KY and my GPS was programmed for the dealership (it was) and it was a nice day/night for a top down drive with my wife. BUT if they would get close to the price I would come get a car from them instead.
He asked me how close and I said $200 - for $200 I would not do 6 hours of driving. Also, the new cars from DW come with a coupon book for discount oil changes, etc that I can use on either car - this would help make up for some of the difference in price. They also include free roadside assistance with the car purchase/lease.
Later one of the sales managers called me ("The closer", I guess) and I told him the same thing. I even called him "the closer" when he introduced himself - and he chuckled :-) He touted all the benefits of getting the car from him, etc - I told him drop the price or I go to KY. I got them to within $315 or so of the price. He said they had long ago made their number for the $600 per car, but needed another few cars "today" to hit 200 for the month.
About 45 minutes before I was getting off of work and heading to KY I e-mail my rep one more time."Poopie or get off the pot. Drop the price or I go to KY". They called me back in about 2 minutes with another $100 off.
So we went to DW Honda and got the car - in the end it was $18,412 or $212 more than my best price - but we closed the deal, celebrated with a nice supper, and were home by the time we would have arrive in KY to start the process. With the coupons I should get some of the money back - and since I take my car there it will be simple to use them and take her new car in as needed.
The car we got had the mud flaps on it (for free) but I never saw the side sticker so I don't know if they had packed anything else on it or not. If they didn't, we didn't pay. They use advertising front plates (and a stuck on decal on the rear) but they removed the front plate and hold when I asked them to (no front plates in TN).
No problems with the paperwork or the finance department - except part of the deal was a $100 "Internet sales coupon" I had to print out and bring with us. Rather than take this $100 off the car, they took it off the amount of the check I was to write them. Since we were doing the promo (really cheap) lease these altered the payment just a little from what I had pre-calculated. I punched the new numbers into Lease-It! in my Palm/phone and they worked out wrong - again. Turns out they had given us a pre-price increase car (like the dealer in GA mentioned) so they could make that extra $100. No problem for me, but it made the lease residual change (down) just a bit. Once I had the new number in Lease-It! everything was OK. With the rate so cheap, I rolled the $595 acq fee into the lease and just paid first month, tax, and tags and signing (less the $100 coupon). I guess they knew a shopper like me would not go for the extras so they didn't even offer them, but I had to initial a form saying they were offered and I turned them down.
All in all I am happy with the deal. Yes I could have saved some money by driving but not THAT much. When I was young my late mother used to take my brother and I to the Nashville Fairgrounds races. A young driver arrived on the scene from Owensboro, KY and became our favorite. With lots of talent and wins he later moved on to Winston Cup and championships. He settled into the Nashville area as well. So to get a car from "his" (maybe mostly name, since Hendrick owns it) dealership was nice :-)
Things I didn't like:
You can get financing pre-approval at the Honda finance web page. Do the form online and get an OK within just a few minutes. The trouble is this can't be transferred to the dealership so is about worthless. You know you are approved, but you have to fill out another app at the dealership anyway. With BMSFS, for example, you get pre-approved and when you pick your dealer and make your deal you "transfer" the app to them. It is printed out and waiting when you get there to pick up the car - just sign it.
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The dealer should have been willing to do the forms and fax them to me before we drove down. "It will only take a minute once you get here" - well it took a little longer since I read them over quite carefully. This would have made things quicker at the dealership since I would have spotted the 2 changes before going in.
The front plate with dealer ad and the rear dealer sticker. They removed the front plate and holder (no visible holes) and I can remove the sticker from the rear - but I just prefer no dealer marks on my cars. If anyone askes where I got the car and if I get a good deal I will be glad to tell them, but don't turn my property into your billboard (or course most dealers do this).
Their non-negotiable DOC fee is $298, which is pretty high. I am glad I made sure all dealers gave me prices for car/destination/doc since this could have meant I was paying too much when I sat down to sign. This did make my car price look even better though :-)
Things to like:
They answer their e-mails promptly! They even had someone else follow up by phone within 24 hours of first contact to make sure I had been contacted by a sales person. I had different folks call me back about the fax and e-mails - no slipping through the cracks at DW Honda. It is AMAZING how many dealers don't reply to e-mails or faxes or even calls - I can see them sitting around sales meetings wonder how to increase sales. JUST ANSWER THE E-MAILS and CALLS would be good start.
The whole process was pretty painless, Swope and Henessey gave me good prices right off but I had to work DW a bit to get a decent price. The paperwork and dealership experience we just fine. The car was ready, clean, and with a full tank of gas when we got to the dealership.
I would not hesitate to recommend them - but going on the last day of the month means you can hammer them more on the price. Where other dealers came up with a good price right off this took a little bit more work, but most was done with short phone calls or quick replies to e-mails.
Dennis
Save the $150 on the rustproofing. It is a totally unneccessary expense to incur on a modern car.
As several folks have said, skip the rust proof or undercoat or whatever they call it. With a modern car it can do more harm than good.
I though Grand Honda in Chicagoland had all these killer prices? Seems like between them and their compertitors would could do better in that area.
You can also get a quote over at www.carsdirect.com and see what comes up for your ZIP code.
Dennis
He did a lot of posting here, and then he was going to MA to get a PZEV Accord.
Did he get the car?
EX-L V-6 27365 msrp bought at 24780.
Great buying experience from Joe Marina Honda in Tulsa, OK .
I am from N.virginia and looking for a used Accord EXL ( 03 ). Can you give me the number of the dealer please ?
-thanks
AZB
ps: Anyone else have any ideas about the dealers aorund DC for a used Honda Accord, would appreciate any feedbacks . thanks again
I missed the lease deal that ended in Feb, and wondered if I should have gone ahead and pulled the trigger. Then the March deals came out EVEN CHEAPER. The same with the 2.9% money, it used to be just on certain models - now all Accords (even the hybrid).
If it is any indication, they already extended the cheap (< 1%) lease money until May 2.
In any case, once today passes then the new numbers will appear in a few days on the Honda web page.
Dennis
I am heading to MA. this Thursday morning to pick it up. $23,200 for the PZEV I4 EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI. Boch still hasn’t sent me any paperwork however :-(
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I don't think I would fool with the demo - as was mentioned you should be able to get a NEW car at or below dealer cost (for sure below last month). How much lower are they going to go on a demo? I am sure Honda gives some discount for the demo, but I would not think it would be enough to make be want one with that many miles on it.
I HAVE purchased 2 "demo" cars in my life - and both were super deals well below the best deal on I could get on a "new" one and I had no unusual problems with either. Both were driven by dealership employees - one was by the receptionist (I know because I helped her get her stuff out of MY car after I purchased it) and the other by the dealership owner's wife (he said so, but she left several gas receipts in the glove box with her name and signature on them). Both had a lot less than 5,900 miles on them as well.
Dennis
I recommend anyone in SATX or in the near vicinity to go to GUNN Honda. If you want contact info, we'll chat and via instant messenger on AOL and I'll get you the name of my sales guy.
By the way, I LOVE MY HONDA ACCORD!!
Otherwise I'll take the new one that's not "preused." They can call it 'demo,' 'company car,' etc., but those are euphemisms for 'used.'
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I believe O’Hare has already beat Grand twice in the last 2 months although one was a mistake. Wilde in Waukesha has beat Grand once or twice in the last few months as well. Didn’t someone just nail an Accord from Castle for $1,000 under last month as well? I have also noticed that Grand is not running the New and Used Honda prices anymore but just the Used and the Honda sponsored leases over the last 3 weekends.
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Wayne R. Gerdes
Not bad it includes a rear spoiler installed and it is an auto. XM is std. w/ the EX-L’s.
The following might help
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Wayne R. Gerdes
Last Thursday I picked up my EX, I4, auto from Boch ($20,000). Had issues with the paperwork because I really don't think they knew how to handle a cash, out-of-state (RI) sales transaction. The paperwork was filled out incorrectly, etc. I called them Friday and they said the paperwork was FedEx to me. When it didn't arrive on Monday, I called again. They then told me it was never sent because they had to pay the MA sales tax first. Once that was done, they would then FedEx me all the paperwork. I said "don't bother, I'll come and pick up the paperwork myself". Which I did last night. So hearing that they haven't sent you any paperwork doesn't surprise me.
Good luck,
Jim
We got our 2005 EX manual at Fairfax for about $500 under invoice, but we had to play hard-to-get. We made an offer, they did not accept it, we left to get in our car, and the salesman came out and told us the offer was accepted.
I read about another guy who got an LX at Koons on Manassas for about $1000 under invoice.
My guess is that all of the dealers offer good prices these days, but you have to know exactly what you want to offer and you have to be willing to walk out if they don't accept it.
When we asked for internet quotes, two dealers (Fairfax and Tysons) gave us offers around invoice very quickly. Landmark was a few hundred dollars higher, but when the guy called me on the phone he said he could go lower.
Our 2005 Accord is much nicer than our 1999 model. Much nicer. We are thrilled with it.
I did a ton of research prior to going to any dealers, then I called around and asked for quotes. I can tell you this, the lowest invoice price I could find was on Intellichoice. This was one of my biggest bargaining tactics. When they counter offered a higher KBB invoice I said: "Well, the intellichoice website says base invoice on the EX-V6 was 24,028 plus destination." They looked and talked, then came back with "well there is the accessory package we installed". I said I didn't ask for it and that Grand had quoted me 23,700 with the same package and Honda in Lisle quoted 23,699. I had to walk out twice during the bargaining for the car price and once on my trade-in price as well.
Best advice is to watch the car ads in the Saturday and Sunday papers. Take note of how much. Then research a bit on all the different Websites and find out the highs and lows of the invoice pricing and suggested target price. After that, test drive at maybe two dealers and get written price quotes (if possible- Grand won't). Then take a week to decide. Some will call you a million times bugging you to buy (this was Grand) and some won't (Schaumburg did not). Then if you are comfortable with going for it, call around the morning you are going out to try and buy and get quotes from a few more dealers over the phone. Tell them you are interested in buying today and are looking at several dealers. Take these with you.
Like I said, it wasn't easy to get the price I wanted at Schaumburg, but it was well worth it. Honda in Lisle wanted a credit card to reserve the car before I even looked at it, and Grand was rude, obnoxious an patehtic from the get-go. The salesman there is still calling me after I told him I was going to purchase somewhere else. I have to say, be careful of Grands tactics, but you should get a price from them anyhow. They low-ball the price but don't tell you that destination and their accessories etc are not included. Schaumburg was EXTREMELY professional and upfront with me from the get-go because I was armed with info and ready to go anywhere I had to to get the price I wanted. I have also heard good things about O'Hare, and Jacobs. I did hear the Jacobs one was done via the internet though, but the price was really good.
All in all, at the end I got their $399 accessory package for $50. Not bad. I'm sure they still made money on the deal but I am complacent with the deal and the car was well worth the wait and work it took to get it!
Good Luck!
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I hope that helps!! If anyone is in this area, I highly recommend this dealership. Also, in general, I think it pays to do your homework online. It will make for a much better experience at the dealership! Good Luck! :P
great information there. i am also in the market for a ex-v6 in socal. did you buy the car by the end of 4/4? i thought 2.9% apr deal expired yesterday. could you please email me (on my profile) the email address for the person who sold you the car at Buena Park?
thanks!
That possible?
Go to carsdirect.com and see what they will sell your once for in your area. I do know that most Honda dealers around here seem to have a few on the lot now - so I think they should be available below MSRP now.
One thing to note: The Accord Hybrid is a "special" hybrid - it is not like the Insight or Civic or even the Prius. It is a "performance" hybrid. It is the fastest and most powerful Accord sedan - but returns mileage numbers a little above those of the I4 Accord. Keep in mind also that hybrids do real well in EPA tests and normally are much worse in the real world. Most cars are worse that EPA in the real world, but most hybrids are MUCH worse. I am sure you can poke along in one and "hyper-mile" and get some good numbers, but if you drive it like a normal person would you will not get close to EPA numbers.
So if the best performing V-6 Accord sedan that gets about I4 mileage appeals to you - it is nice car. No sunroof or folding seat, however :-(
Dennis
Thank you for the reply and your personal experience Boch Honda is more then a bit lax with their paperwork as I am still waiting for the FedEx and I am leaving this Thursday morning! They will be faxing the sales paperwork tomorrow so I have it in detail and in my hands but they sure were fast at getting me the Routing and Account number for the electronic transfer of funds. Figures, doesn’t it?
Anyway, the PZEV based - 4-door - EX-L w/ Auto and NAVI came out to $23,201 + $198 doc and the 5% MA. tax. I have to pay another 1.5% on top of the MA. tax to IL. when I get home as our sales tax rate is 6.5% here and the Illinois DMV will not let me register/transfer plates without their cut but at least I am finally close to owning what I wanted
Wish me luck as it will be a long bus ride home if this deal goes awry :-(
Wayne R. Gerdes